Hotel Transylvania 4 is an animated disaster
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- Published on Jan 16, 2022
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@Chainsonic đż
@Saul T. Nutz Why are you everywhere?
Then maybe they wolud be big
DEEZ NUTS
Stop
The 4th movie shouldâve been about the biggest major issue the series never acknowledged. Itâs that if Johnny continues being a human, he will die of old age before Mavis becomes a fully grown Woman and his son actually growing up because he is not an immortal Vampire.
They couldâve make the story take place 15 - 20 years later after 3, a big timeskip. You see Johnny getting older whilst Mavis and his Son stay the same and that causes major concerns. Johnny starts to panic because the thought of him simply dying of old age in, what we can assume is the blink of an eye as a Vampire terrifies Johnny, especially since he probably will never witness his son be fully grown up.
And the story could revolve around Johnny now, a story of if he decides to become a monster/ vampire too, basically throwing away everything theyâve been building up with âhumans & monsters living togetherâ or if he stays human and accepts his inevitable fate.
lol no funny dinosaur go boom boom
basically Twilight
now THATS a good idea
Kids are smart enough to understand death idk why companies think their demographic can't handle dark themes.
I hate the ideia "Reject the old, embrace the modern". Seeing the hotel like that on the end credits honestly made me offended lol. The hotel had so much emotional attachment to it's history, it was basically a tribute to Martha and got ruined.
Mavis and Johnny would have been the perfect "old and modern" partners in this, Mavis would make sure to respect and tribute the traditions and history and Johnny could do his... thing. But nah, there is no mid term
@jf k so basically u want a prequel
@Luke Lichtenthal đ¤Łthings doesn't always change and if that change went from good to just sh*tty then i prefer no change at all everytime
@Luke Lichtenthal Things donât always have to change conformity is stupid sometimes.
Especially when thereâs so much emotional attachment to the original point of the Hotel
@Crazy Cockatoo Personally, I think what made the first film successful because it did had bit of a serious tone to it. I enjoys the film series and appreciates the message of unity, but at the same time I think that maybe they did overdid it a bit. We often see Drac trying to understand these newfound ideas but rarely does Mavis and Johnny tries to understand Drac's views which is kinda bit unfair. They're both from a generation where they rarely have to struggles so their views are about fun and equally. Drac comes from a world where monsters did had to struggled to survived, lost his first love of his life, led monsters during a dark time and raised a child on his own. He knows from experience that life isn't always easy.
For the most part, he is happy with his new life but at the same time, you can't help but wonders if he does feels bit alone in his family. Possibly the only family member who could understand his view is his father Vlad but they have a strange relationship even after Vlad rejoined the family. Johnny is a bit better out of the two since he does tries to understand better why the hotel means so much to Drac and is genuinely sorry about Martha's death. However, it's implies that Mavis really doesn't fully realizes how bad things really were for monsters in the past or how much her mother's death really affected her father. This is why I think it would be an interesting idea if we had a film where Mavis and Johnny travels back in time where they see the reality on how things really were. It's important to move towards to the future, but important to remember and honors the past as well. It's time for Mavis and Johnny to take a step back from their views and learns some hard truths.
@Crazy Cockatoo Here are things that could been explored. Really, exploring all of the monsters' backstories would be interesting. However, Dracula have always been the most fascinating character because he is the guy who you know will think two steps ahead before everybody else does, who is extremely well-educated and the one who will carry others' pain and struggles so that they won't have to. He is a very strong and strong-willed person but he is also extremely private. He won't talk about his past unless he have to. I bet that his friends and Mavis didn't even know that he went to vampire camp until the second film events. What other things that he is hiding and not sharing with Mavis? Here are some other things to explore.
1. Explores more of the animosity between humans and monsters. We know that neither side were completely innocent but it seems that toward to the end it was more of the humans' own paranoid.
2. When and how did Drac meet his future friends?
3. How did Frank/Eunice and Wayne/Wanda meet and hooked up?
4. Wayne and Wanda's first reaction when they found out that they were going to be parents.
5. What other hobbies/knowledge does Drac know besides ballroom dancing, painting, playing the ukulele and having at least basic knowledge of law-making (based on him being able to easily make up a seemingly convincing monster estate law on the spot to Johnny in the recent film).
6. What other places have Drac been to besides Hawaii.
7. More information about Drac and Martha's relationship.
8. Drac's final moment with dying Martha before finding baby Mavis and escaping from the angry mob.
9. Clearly the entire gang were fond of Martha since they wished that she was there for Mavis's 118th birthday. Still it would be cool to see their and other monsters' relationship to her and how they reacted to her death.
10. How did Drac coped with Martha's death while raising Mavis, running the hotel and leading the monsters during a dark time. Clearly, he was able to hide his more extreme sadness from Mavis since she didn't even realized that he was depressed until after they met Ericka.
11. More on Drac's struggles on being a single father. Clearly, he went out of his way to make sure that Mavis was safe and happy. Still, he admitted to Ericka that being a single dad was not easy meaning that there must had been some tense moments between them due to Mavis growing up and increasingly wanting to see the outside world. Unknown to her, there were probably lot of times that he probably was questioning if he was making the right choice.
I like Mavis and she is a good person. But like many teenagers, she think she know better than her parent and because of that she can be a bit preachy to him at times. Both of her parents lived a hard life where monsters were more focused on surviving rather than fairness and fun. They wanted a better life for her. Even long after Martha's death, Drac kept that promise. Mavis really owns her dad everything. Her safety, happiness and even her young family. However, because of lack of experiences, she really got little idea on how lucky she really is. I don't want her to start disliking humans because there are good humans out there like Johnny. But have her kinda takes a step back and really think to herself, oh, so that is why dad acted in this way in the past and maybe I wasn't always being fair to him. Being a true adult is when one person fully realizes/recognizes their parents' sacrifices for you and despite being a young mother, Mavis haven't fully reached to that yet.
The concept of Drac not wanting Johnny to run the hotel wouldâve been so much better if it was because Drac thought Johnny was too immature. Like, that definitely couldâve set up interesting character development for Johnny whilst also giving a much better dynamic than the one we had for 3 movies.
@Fasebooster Man that is literally not what the movie is about... They had johnny acting like total man child through out the whole movie and act like that kind of bs behavior from a supposed adult and a father is okay
@Derphan Lol no. you see, johnney thinks dracula does not want him to run the hotel because he is human so he turns to van hellsing to make him into a monster.
we see clearly in the beggining what johnney wants to do with the hotel, and dracula is afraid of this because the hotel means a LOT to him. after all, dracula made this hotel as soon as his wife died and made it for monsters safety from humans (at the time).
dracula accepted johnney's humanity in the 1st movie and the subject never got touched again.
the whole conversation between dracula and mavis while everyone is frozen at the beggining of the movie should had told this very clearly.
@Fasebooster Man No itâs not, Drac doesnât want Johnny to run the hotel because heâs a human.
That is literally what the movie is about lol
I had no idea that Adam Sandler wasn't voicing Dracula (though I could "feel" something was off while watching). Kudos to the voice actor, honestly.
His name is Brian Hull. He's a TheXvidr
Dracula wasnât scared to give Johnny the hotel because heâs human since that was said and done in the 1st movie, it was because Johnnyâs plans for the hotel were almost offensive to Dracula. The hotel was built immediately after the wifeâs passing and designed to protect monsters and it just has so much history and you can tell heâs too emotionally invested in it to just give it to a young hippy kid who plans on essentially changing everything about it.
FINALLY I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS ABOUT THIS!!!!
@Retro-Milk Dennisovich, a vampire, got hypnotized, even when in the 2nd movie it was stated that vampires can't hypnotize other vampires.
The hell is wrong with the continuity, man... I really LOVE the first 2 movies and they literally ruined it in this last sequel.
This
@Moondivine22 johnny is not an idiot or just too exited.. he is a man child, not sure of how old is he supposed to be but from this last movie he acts like an undisciplined 2yr old and i have seen 2yr olds act better than him. Johnny is just a shit character, even mavis is blegh
"Fun" fact: The crystal is seemingly located in the Brazilian center-west, yet everytime a local speaks or something is written it's in spanish, instead of the native Portuguese. So not only is the movie bad, but it also manages to be offensive
@neon5162 I do, bcs I'm brazilian And i haven't watched the movie yet ._.
Fun fact --- And your point is. Oh wait no one cares.
Maybe itâs in Colombia or Peruâs side of the Amazon
@Pullimau are you even brazilian?
if you get offended by that. grow up and go outside
They could've just made the 4th movie about Erica and Mavis. It would have been more interesting to see their relationship grow and see how Mavis adjusted to her new Stepmom
Either way I still somewhat enjoyed this movie
YES! THANK YOU! When Drac proposed to Erica the very first thing that popped into my mind was: âWow! I canât wait to see Erica and Mavisâs dynamic!â And Mavis was a baby when Martha died so this wouldâve been the first time mavis wouldâve had a Mom! I really hoped they would explore that but NOPE!
Nobody care about Erica
Itâs already clear that Erica and Mavis are tolerant, I want to see Johnny and Mavis more
I really did wanna see more of Erica with mavis
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3:42 Actually, the reason Dracula didn't want to give Johnny the hotel isn't because he's human, he only said that so Johnny wouldn't bother him about.
The REAL reason is cuz of his immature, chaotic personality, n Drac was just worried that he'll literally destroy the hotel which is honestly a valid fear.
I mean the first thing Johnny does in the movie is nearly destroy the anniversary party with his dangerous stunts had it not been for Drac fixing everything at literal last second. Then he becomes a dragon being unaware of his surroundings n proceeds to wreck things along his path at the hotel.
So yeah, I wouldn't trust Johnny with my property either. He may be Mavis' idiot n loves him for that, but he's still an idiot n the dangerous kind too.
I actually kinda liked the first movie. Second wasn't completely unwatchable, considering it's for children. They're just goofy enough to be at least watchable when your kid insists they want to watch it. Plus, monsters are cool.
My kid wasn't even interested in seeing 3 or 4 and she's still in the intended age range for it, not even a tween yet, so that tells you all you need to know. Some kids can tell when a movie intended for them is cheap garbage meant to sell them shit.
@Kofi zayn You're lost from Twitter or something
What do you mean it's not completely unwatchable? We get it. It's a kids movie no need to point it out it's obvious. Soooooooo it's a kids movie? So whattttttttttt?
The only part of this movie I actually liked was when Dracula used Johnny's marshmallow metaphor to calm him down at the end. I thought it was a really good callback and every word out of Dracula's mouth felt genuine.
Funny I felt it was contrived, even if was delivered well
@Ă Ăm ĂhrĂŽsBB Ă59 ratio
It was good, but I believe it has become a bit clichĂŠ-ic throughout the film industry to âKingdom Heartsâ the heck out of the antagonist to make them good again.
Yeah it was nice but it felt repititive cuz all previous movies had a similar messege accepting humans. Damn that's the whole plot of the first movie.
Why did they even need the accepting Johnny as a human and road trip adventure? It sounds like it had an organic plot it could have focused on. Dracula Retiring could have been the entire plot. You could explore how Mavis running the hotel is different than Dracula, have some moments between Johnny and Dracula that build off the previous three films, explore what Dracula wants to do in retirement. Would he pick up a new hobby that could be worked into some jokes? Keep dropping by to check on the hotel? There's plenty of plot and comedy to mine there.
Dude, I'd actually watch that movie, it sounds like quite a perfect idea for the ending of a franchise such as this one
Finally someone whoâs honest and knows that the franchise isnât THAT BAD
Also, a minor nitpick, Iâm not sure the timeline adds up. At the beginning of the movie itâs supposed to be the 125th anniversary of the hotel, but the hotel is a 5-10 years younger than Mavis, who was turning 118 in the first movie. That would make this movie take place somewhere around 15 years after the first, which doesnât make sense since Johnny, who was 21 in the first movie, hasnât aged at all.
@Isabella Mack Holden wait, thats true.... he kissed an vampire, so why isnt he one?
@Maria Aurenir I wonder if he has immortality or something
Not an nitpick, just the truth
Brian Hull did the best he did with what he was given. I hope this starts his professional voiceover career because heâs way too talented to be just an impression
"The last 3 movies had Dracula accepting that Johnny was a human, over and over again."
Phew, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that.
@ManaAdvent NO
For real I honestly donât even like johnny hes litterally a grown ass child and then theres no character development so i see why drac also doesnt like him lol
At least with movie 2 the reason they were retreading the same issue was more to do with Dracula's father than Dracula himself still hating humans as well as wanting his grandson to take after him. So there was a logic to going over it again.
But there really wasn't a good excuse to doing it AGAIN after that.
I'm human and I barely accept Johnny even now
@Greywall Here are things that could been explored. Really, exploring all of the monsters' backstories would be interesting. However, Dracula have always been the most fascinating character because he is the guy who you know will think two steps ahead before everybody else does, who is extremely well-educated and the one who will carry others' pain and struggles so that they won't have to. He is a very strong and strong-willed person but he is also extremely private. He won't talk about his past unless he have to. I bet that his friends and Mavis didn't even know that he went to vampire camp until the second film events. What other things that he is hiding and not sharing with Mavis? Here are some other things to explore.
1. Explores more of the animosity between humans and monsters. We know that neither side were completely innocent but it seems that toward to the end it was more of the humans' own paranoid.
2. When and how did Drac meet his future friends?
3. How did Frank/Eunice and Wayne/Wanda meet and hooked up?
4. Wayne and Wanda's first reaction when they found out that they were going to be parents.
5. What other hobbies/knowledge does Drac know besides ballroom dancing, painting, playing the ukulele and having at least basic knowledge of law-making (based on him being able to easily make up a seemingly convincing monster estate law on the spot to Johnny in the recent film).
6. What other places have Drac been to besides Hawaii.
7. More information about Drac and Martha's relationship.
8. Drac's final moment with dying Martha before finding baby Mavis and escaping from the angry mob.
9. Clearly the entire gang were fond of Martha since they wished that she was there for Mavis's 118th birthday. Still it would be cool to see their and other monsters' relationship to her and how they reacted to her death.
10. How did Drac coped with Martha's death while raising Mavis, running the hotel and leading the monsters during a dark time. Clearly, he was able to hide his more extreme sadness from Mavis since she didn't even realized that he was depressed until after they met Ericka.
11. More on Drac's struggles on being a single father. Clearly, he went out of his way to make sure that Mavis was safe and happy. Still, he admitted to Ericka that being a single dad was not easy meaning that there must had been some tense moments between them due to Mavis growing up and increasingly wanting to see the outside world. Unknown to her, there were probably lot of times that he probably was questioning if he was making the right choice.
I like Mavis and she is a good person. But like many teenagers, she think she know better than her parent and because of that she can be a bit preachy to him at times. Both of her parents lived a hard life where monsters were more focused on surviving rather than fairness and fun. They wanted a better life for her. Even long after Martha's death, Drac kept that promise. Mavis really owns her dad everything. Her safety, happiness and even her young family. However, because of lack of experiences, she really got little idea on how lucky she really is. I don't want her to start disliking humans because there are good humans out there like Johnny. But have her kinda takes a step back and really think to herself, oh, so that is why dad acted in this way in the past and maybe I wasn't always being fair to him. Being a true adult is when one person fully realizes/recognizes their parents' sacrifices for you and despite being a young mother, Mavis haven't fully reached to that yet.
I love how since the first movie, one of the messages of the whole thing has been to not judge monsters just because they look scary or have that reputation, and then completely throw that away when Johnny turns into one on the inside. Kind of contradictory, no...?
People literally *Never* learn about changing director's. Pretty much every time a director for a franchise is changed it ruins everything.
Also it reminds me of "The Croods 2" in that it seems like a chaotic children's movie. But the difference between then Is that The Croods 2 is actually good and well made.
When I first heard of this I was thinking âthey are finally making Johnny a vampire, cool! Can finally explore him adapting to them and not them adapting to humansâ Nope. Was just a let down. Never realized the Sandler thing either until this, but it all felt sanded down into a mess. Johnny was never mature much, but he wasnât completely brain dead. Think he may have fallen off the hotels roof off screen, and Mavis seemed to do the same. Was never much of a character besides her appearance, but even this made her just seem like the âbut daddy I love himâ type.
As someone who has watched Brian Hull for years, its so cool to see him get a major role in a movie. Congrats to him!
@neon5162 I mean, if that's what you want to believe, sure. I think the movie sucked for multiple reasons, none of which were Brian's fault.
So thatâs why the movie sucked.
Yes!!! đđđ
I was hoping that this movie was about Johnny having an existential crisis about the fact that his wife and son will outlive him, maybe showing that heâs getting older and is worried that he wonât even see his kid enter middle school. Then the movie does the whole transformation thing. This time Johnny is acting more selfish and doesnât want to turn back.
@Mr Critical It was a combination of wanting Drac's full respect and ensuring that Mavis get the hotel. He meant well but went about things in the wrong way.
@The Fat Piranha Plant not in hotel Transylvania
@I Am V0id I think it was a misinterpretation. Vampires, especially in Dracula novels and films, can âparalyzeâ their prey. They arenât widely known to stop time like Dio Brando can.
@The Fat Piranha Plant It depends on the lore. Some vampire rules have it where a vampire giving blood to a virgin would turn them into a vampire, but if they arenât they just turn into a normal ghoul.
Genndy has a unique pulse and take on animation. It's not the same without him, and it's not surprising.
I absolutely loved the first movie, the second and third movies were okay, but the forth one didn't even need to be a movie, the could've just made it an animated short and it still wouldn't of been good but at least it would've made sense
Brian Hull is amazing at voice impressions nonetheless. I hope he gets his own character to play one day
Honestly one of the biggest mysteries to me in these films regarding the invisible man was that Griffin, literature speaking anyway, was technically a human before he experimented on himself and turned invisible. Was that like, not a thing here too?
*They'd of have a stroke if Dr Jekyll existed in this universe.*
I wonder if he was some kind of mad scientist in a past life?
Johnny feels like a kid. I know he was always a little "immature" but I can barely believe he's the dad
@Rachel-in-the-208 đ
@Luke Lichtenthal Why are you giving me attitude? We were talking about Johnny, I gave my opinion. All I could think of was the opening scene when he was singing âJust the THREE of Usâ and I was like âUMMM, did you forget you had a child.â Johnny became a monster because he felt he didnât have a purpose because he didnât have Drackâs approval ⌠but he should be focusing on the fact that his purpose is being a father.
I focused on Johnny because HE AND HIS FAMILY ARE THE MAIN CHARACTERS!! ⌠I said the movie was awful! Excuse me for not mentioning everything wrong with the movie and mentioning your precious Winnie.
@Rachel-in-the-208 Oh okay. Letâs just ignore the fact that Winnieâs parents do the same thing but worse!! Also there have been scenes where they do interact which is more then I can say for Wayne or Wanda!!
The one thing I loved about this movie is that the invisible guy is, in fact, the Red Guy from cow and chicken.
Donât believe me? Watch the credit scene where heâs covered in paint.
can we please talk about the end credits scene? i was genuinely disappointed when i saw the hotel all colorful... i feel like the hotel was meant to stay black and white and kinda gloomy and all cuz that style was iconic and familiar to everyone.... the hotel was also a tribute to martha and now they ruined it which i genuinely feel bad about cuz im pretty sure the writers have forgotten about her already-
also is is just me or did anyone else not want dracula to give johnny the hotel at the start of the movie?
I feel that many people are misunderstanding the film so I'm going to set the record straight. It is possible to like someone while still wishing that there are few things that person is different about. I don't think that this changes anything. I think it makes sense. You are telling that there isn't anything that you would change about your own family even though you loves/cares about them deeply? You are taking this way too personally. He accepted that Mavis loves him and he does like Johnny deep down. However, his obsession with keeping his hotel afloat and Johnny's clumsiness and free-spirited kept him from embracing the little parts about Johnny that he may not had cared for before.
The problem is that these two had different life experiences which made them hard to relates each other fully. Drac was shouldered with many responsibilities in his life while Johnny had more of a carefree life. I think that the talk between the two of them during the fire scene tells you a lot. Yes, he have deep pride in the successful hotel that he had long build but more importantly it have a deep symbolism to him. It is a place that he build to keep Mavis and the other monsters safe during a dark time for everyone. Almost everything he did was for both his and others' sake. Mavis never got to experience the hard life that Drac and Martha both had go to through. They wanted a better life for her and even long after Martha had passed, Drac kept that promise that they both made. The hotel is more than a business to him. It is also home and have a deep symbolism to it for him. Drac have always been one who at the end of the day will look at all angles and makes the biggest sacrifices. He build the hotel, devotedly raised his daughter on his own, allowed Johnny and Mavis to get together and is helping them raise their son. All he wants in return is the safe knowing that his hotel will still be fine when he isn't in charge anymore and he felt that Johnny wasn't responsible enough for it. The disaster performance at the party in the beginning doesn't exactly gives him much confident. The worst part is that with the exception of Ericka, nobody stopped to consider Drac's view. Not even Mavis really stop to considered how hard it is for her dad to let go of the hotel or will admit that Johnny really can be a bit much sometimes. Everybody acts like he is the only one with a problem, but is he really?
Yes, he lied few times to avoid some uncomfortable talks with his family but Mavis was the one who spoiled the surprise by listening to him, Van Helsing was the one who build the machine and Johnny was the one who choosed to take up Van Helsing's offer. It wasn't just one person in this mess. The film isn't about Drac accepting Johnny into the family. It is about him accepting the idea that while he may not always agree with Johnny's ideas that doesn't means that it'll always turns out bad and sometimes you have to trust your family even if you are against them. But at the same time, it is important for others to consider Drac's views as well. Johnny and Mavis start really thinking how much the hotel means to Drac after it got burned down which is why they ended up compromising by making the outside part of the new hotel the same.
The only thing I liked about this film would be the âJust The Two of Usâ between Drac and Mavis
My favorite joke about the Invisible Man's appearance is "He looks like a racist caricature for a race that doesn't exist"
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@StingerGaming Oh yeah.
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Thatâs actually really good đ
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Can I just say, I appreciate them focusing the movie back on Johnny and Dracula, the emotional and comedic core of the series was always Johnny and Dracula playing off of each other. Although I wish they leaned less on the idea of making johnny a pathetic loser.
The whole repeated plot beats aside, I actually really liked this movie. I loved dragon Johnny and the new voice actors did a decent job. I think my expectations for this movie were just so low it ended up being better than I ever thought it would be. It was way better than the third one at least.
Seeing Brian Hull as a voice actor is impressive, I only remember him back in 2017 as the TheXvidr voice impressionist, though I do kinda regret seeing the voice actor switch.
I hated the entire series even when it first released. No matter how immature I was for a child, the silliness of the movies annoyed me to the point I wished Martha wasn't the one hunted down.
0:53 I was 100% expecting at least one of the characters in this movie, especially Ninja's character to break out in some flossing frenzy during the whole dance party opening, or any Fortnite related dances for that matter. But no, we got Wayne doing the renegade for about 10 seconds instead.
Are we going to be at the point where at least one character from virtually every franchise will break out in TikTok dances now? Like how there was a phase in Hollywood cinema where many fictional characters started doing Fortnite dances. Soon, more and more characters will start breaking out in TikTok dances, and then the whole internet will have some fit over it just cause their favorite characters did said dances.
Itâs a shame honestly because Brian Hull is very talented when it comes to voice impressions and he was so excited to play Dracula because this was his first time doing voice acting for a movie⌠he deserves better than just being a replacement for Adam Sandler
I agree
@TFaithMOMO ikr, and he was so excited to play Drac in the movie and people are just realizing now that itâs him and not Adam Sandler. Hopefully he gets better acting parts in the future cause he did a good job with what he was given
I remember when the trailer dropped and seeing Brain Hullâs TheXvid video saying that he was playing Drac in the movie and watching it in disbelief thinking he was making it up and commented saying that I didnât believe him and my reasoning why. I have since deleted the comment when I found out that a couple days later he was telling the truth when I saw the confirmation that Adam Sandler wasnât in the movie. Itâs a shame though because he was billed lower than everyone else and heâs the main character and the fact that when the majority of people found that he was Drac was when the credits rolled. Does anyone know exactly why Adam Sandler wasnât in the movie?
@Lady.historia Ymir is disappointed in you spamming and self promoting
Yeah but you know what I'm glad that Brian Hull is finding professional work as a voice actor. It gives me hope because I wish to be a voice actor too. And seeing a relatively big small guy like Brian Hull getting this big of a roll inspires me
The 1st and 2nd Hotel Transylvania will always have a place in my heart, but the plot started to go down hill at the 3rd one. Especially the 4th one. So did the animation.
I was surprised at how rushed the ending was. It went from the hotel being destroyed in one scene, and literally rebuilt in the next. Then it just went to the credits. They shouldâve left the hotel destroyed and have the characters plan to rebuild it together or sum. I did find the animation style funny at some parts in the movie, though. Itâs so goofy.
That ending was sequel baiting like the Amazing Spider-Man 2 Rise of Electro for hotel Transylvania transformania era
The amount of similarities Hotel Transylvania 4 and Encanto share is honestly astounding:
⢠Primarily takes place in south america
⢠A family with magical/supernatural powers
⢠One family member doesn't get accepted because they're normal
⢠The head of the family doesn't accept normal person because they are normal
⢠They go on a journey to repair a magical artifact that lost it's magic
⢠Many magical individuals lose their powers and become normal
⢠In the end the huge house that they live in gets destroyed but rebuilt
⢠The shunned family member gets accepted.
⢠And the message is that family always sticks together and that you're special in your own way.
Is it really because Johnny is normal (or human)?
From what I saw, Dracula accepts "normal" people obviously his wife is the that person, just not Johnny for being an annoying man child. I seriously have to side with Drac here, Johnny was so annoying and threw a very dangerous surprise with fire despite knowing Frank's situations?
@SKG Cody Well Encanto *technically* had a journey, where Mirabell travelled through the rooms and when they endes up by the river.
Nearly accurate except the journey
The thing I hate about this the most is that the concept could have been really cool. Like, Drac accepted Jonny as a human, but still treated him differently, though that is probably more to do with him being Dracâs son in law. But if the story was about Jonny trying to prove that he has what it takes to be a monster, trying to prove that in another life he could have fit in, only to realize that he couldnât live up to the standard but that Drac and the gang still care about him, would have made a better story in my opinion. Like, make the story more Jonny central, with the side monsters on their own B plot where they enjoy being human for a while, being able to fit in with the world and all. Idk man just feels like a waste
Isn't Mavis supposed to be super strong? She was so weak. Wtf happened to her compared to when she was kicking vampire butt back in the second movie?
Sly you greedy fly u made me pay 1.6k geo maybe even more for a lantern >:(
@hornet is void đ
Classic switcharoo plot, would've been much better
There is a scene the in crystal cave where his reflection looks like how the fans wanted it to be lol
Okay, Iâll be honest. Adam Sandler was in some of my favorite movies (I love him), when I watched the trailer I knew it wasnât Adam. I donât hate Brian Hull, he seems like a pretty cool guy but it was so obvious that it was an impression, like I kinda wanted to rip out my hair listening to it
I can't believe it's been nearly 10 years since the first one came out.
My question is... why did their transformations make them genuinely hideous? Except Frank's Monster.
I liked their designs
@Nathan Forester Wayne wasn't as bad as the rest to be honest.
Frank should have been a mix of different people, and yeah I don't buy Murray not being an African American as a human, okay...he sort is, but he's elderly and not an overweight guy, Wayne should have been a dilf.
Ngl I thought it was pretty funny how they made all the typical "bishie bait" monsters into unattractive humans đ I relate to that one tweet about how somehow missing _the Invisible Man from Hotel Transylvania fandom_ lmao
I think itâs a bad sign when 50% of the people who were involved with the series were absent from the supposed finale. Even Genndy was only a writer and executive producer this time
@⥠TaloStar⥠Thank you.
@Laughter eats your soul. *holds back*
@JOHN SMITH Somebody hold me back, I want to click it so bad.
@Raymon Trigueros that's good
@Origin Weirdo me neither
This is definitely the most direct-to-video feeling of all the sequels.
1 I absolutely loved. 2 was good, but I wasn't super into it. 3 I wasn't into except the ending which was so bad it was genius and I loved it. 4 wasn't great. The animation is great in all 4.
Wait, Adam Sandler wasn't in 4? That sounded exactly like Adam Sandler
Honestly props to Sony for having the balls to just ghost Amazon on the release of their major motion picture
Hey, David Spade ainât bad looking, though. Personally, Iâm just surprised that they didnât make him look like a scrawny dweeb. Pretty much the only thing consistent about that character design is the red curly hair, as mentioned in the first movie.
Fun fact: This is 4th theatrically released animated film to have 4 films, after Shrek Forever After (2010), Ice Age: Continental Drift (2012), and Toy Story 4 (2019).
So this is why I always felt like a lot of animated movie series' only ever get 3 entries.
Mista: r/AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
What about American tail series or even the land before time. I know they were pumping land before time movies out for at least two decades with advertising and then after that with no advertising
Funny thing is that none of those are really that good.
What about Monster High?
I still liked Brian Hull as Dracula. I might be biased since he's one of my favorite content creators and I know how wholesome he is, and yes I miss Adam Sandler, but it's not like Brian Hull is terrible. He's good, just not what we all wanted.
Hated the story.
I watched this a few weeks ago and I ended up mildly enjoying it. I think the biggest disappoint for me is some of it's missed opportunities. Early on it seemed like they were setting Drac up to experience what human life is like, there was a good moment early on where he get's to actually be outside during the day and I thought to myself "wow that's actually really interesting, this character has never experienced something as normal as daylight" but then it quickly devolves into slapstick and there's nothing wrong with that but it was honestly a shame. Especially when you remember Mavis' arc in the first two movies was learning about human life, I'm sure she would love to experience that but the movie just never mentions or even hints at the idea.
I watched the movie on Amazon Prime for basically free and I'm so glad I did because if I paid money to watch that film, I would have disliked it way more. The fact that I watched it for basically free makes it less bad.
I didn't think this was the fourth movie. I genuinely thought it was a direct to DVD type deal. Like an optional side-quest.
Im always gonna be upset Adam Sandler wasnt Drac, he just fits him perfectly
Even when I first saw the trailer I could tell that the animation was different and the whole vibe was a bit off? The first 2 in particular had a really unique and charming style but from what Iâve seen of the 4th one the animation looks like someone tried to copy the style of the first two but didnât quite get it right lmao
I mean this with every bit of my soul the moment I finished this movie I have never felt closer to wanting to end it all and I mean that genuinely
Never knew this movie was being made, let alone that it came out. Compared to the third movie it got zero marketing. That said yeah I didn't expect a lot and it disappointed even that little bit. Hotel Transylvania was a cute movie that was surprisingly good. I honestly didn't expect anything from a modern Adam Sandler movie.
But the sequels were all pretty hit or miss for me. It really felt like they had no plan for a sequel for the first movie, as if Sony had no faith in it. The sequels that came didn't feel like a story that had to be told. There was no plan, just "random thing happens". Which tends to be the same plot of Johnny being a Human and the problems with that.
My favorite thing about the 4th one was back when the trailer came out and people were mad that the invisible guy didnât look hot.
Glad he mentioned it.
@Y. wait time stamp?
He didn't need to be hot, But his design didn't match his outline in the suits
@orange juice At least we'd enjoy those lmao
@Pygmy Puff Or could she?
@Fairuz Raz 24 Yes, i acknowledge that, but she could have easily restrained him.
The issue is the story and how predictable, short and depressing how it turned into a liar reveal story instead. This worries me a little bit for Spiderverse 2, but hopefully the team will do it again so well.
Will spider verse 2 be Sony animations second apology after transformania released the same year
Had me cringing all the time. Even at the 1st 10 minutes made me know that it's not good đ
Look how bad they botched it disappointing.
Head writer: okay gang, the premise of this one is that Van Helsing helps Johnny become a monster and then Dracula and the others become human by accident. What should we set up as the inciting incident? Why does Johnny want to become a monster?
Intern: what if Johnny gets hurt, or finds a grey hair, or maybe a human relative passes away and he realizes that, unlike Mavis and Dennis, he isnât going to live forever? I mean, thatâs kind of been hanging unspoken over the series since the beginning right? The fact that hiswife and son are immortal but he isnât? Maybe in the end, Drac and Mavis even decide to become human for Johnny and Ericka?
Writer: Nah, thatâs dumb. What if Dracula was planning on giving the hotel to Mavis and Johnny, but then he remembers what a screw up Johnny is and makes up a lie that a human canât own the hotel?
Intern: But, Dracula likes Johnnyâs wacky fun personality. Thatâs like, the whole first movie. Plus, that lie doesnât even make sense. If that were the case, why wouldnât he give it to just Mavis?
Writer: shut up intern Iâm writing gold here!
Idk, the way I interpreted it wasnât that Dracula wasnât accepting of Johnny being human, it was more that he wasnât accepting of Johnnyâs personality and interpretations of things, kind of from a traditional glance, since it focuses it on the ideas Johnny relayed of his view of the hotel and the immaturity of Johnny and the ending involved Dracula accepting that while he viewed Johnny as an immature goof, Johnny showed him the different perspective that he is instead a more modernized fun loving guy who has had a lot of experience in different scenarios, mentioned in his backpacking story and relayed from how he got along well with people on the trip, even speaking their language fluently. The movie was still a flop, but I donât see it as Dracula coming to terms with Johnny being a human again as talked about in the video.
Iâm so sad how Hotel Transylvania ends like this. The first one is probably one of my favourite films by this studio, only beaten by Open Season (which is good thanks to rose tinted lenses). Itâs so sad to see how this series ends, started off with a unique premise and ends with yet another road trip.
I like the message though- a dad trying to accept the person his daughter goes out with/marries, even if itâs not the person/monster he envisioned. A surprisingly modern story for a childrenâs film.
Hey, rose tinted glasses are the best when it comes to movies
@Omao Right?! Surfâs Up: The Original >>>>>>> WaveMania!
@JCL Kaytwo
Oh nooo
@JCL Kaytwo
Exactly what I was thinking
@Kieran Stark
The first Surfâs Up is good, the second one sucks. As for my top fav movies.
Spiderman into the spiderverse and The Mitchells vs The Machines get the crown easy.
To be fair, Drac wasn't afraid of handing the hotel over to a human, he was afraid of handing it over to Johnny specifically, as a crazy inexperienced goofball. "Because you're a human" was just the best excuse he could come up with on short notice.
Which is dumb because straight up saying he's immature would be fine. So acting like he's doubling back on past issues is like ... the worst idea possible.
This video felt very true to the title. Usually with a format like in the title, itâs just the TheXvidr cracking jokes and making fun of the movie/show deservingly or undeservingly.
But this video felt very serious and sincere, like a very disappointed parent. Itâs kinda relieving and relatable for some reason, and idk why.
tl:dr: loved the video, felt very therapeutic for some reason.
Somebody referred to the series as a *quadrilogy* to me.
I was confused. And then I was Mortified.
I just⌠hope it wont become a *quintrilogy*
I loved these movies as a kid and the first and second movies are my fav, it was always The first Hotel Transylvania and Wreck it Ralph as my childhood favs.. But after the second movie, the third and forth movies just went downhillâŚ
I feel like Andy samberg and Selena Gomez couldâve done an interview with Kelly Clarkson in Variety about them revealing that they were feeling heartbroken about the critics and audiences hating hotel Transylvania like Andrew Garfield working on Spider-Man
Iâm also a fan of the first three films and man, this movie was not it. Uninspired, lame and dull, not even the wacky animation was able to save it. And like you said, they have done so little with the transformania.
I stopped liking them since the number three.
The first two movies were good, the two last ones are⌠what ?
The thing I liked is that every movie of HT has a character that shines/focus the most:
HT: Mavis
HT 2: Jonathan
HT 3: Ericka
HT 4: Johnny
Notice how Jonathan got least screentime in HT 4 because he already shined in HT 2, Erika got a bit half/more screentime in HT 4 because she's being the actual wife now, Mavis and the other gang are sides.
The animation felt lacking. Like a lifeless copy of 3. The time they wasted with random gags wasnât even done like the previous films. Donât know what it is but HT3 had genuinely funny random gags that didnât feel like a waste of my time. But the ones here felt like a drag. Maybe the team had too much pressure to try to mimic the style of its predecessors that it didnât establish itself as a unique take on the franchise. Idk
@Head of Cosmos Pictures it was not a masterpiece but not a terrible movie...
I liked thr third but I found Dracula and Erika together dumb he didn't need anyone else and what happened to you only zing once?
Thank you for actually saying all this outloud. when the trailer for this came out, I seriously thought it was all a prank of some sorts âŚsadly, it was notâŚ
My favorite thing about the 4th one was back when the trailer came out and people were mad that the invisible guy didnât look hot. Glad he mentioned it.
I love the fact that the movie just ignores Frankenstein being a combination of body parts from dead people and just turns him into an attractive 30 year old
Big fan of the first 2, the second one being my favourite. Itâs simple and cute family fun and I really didnât like the third movie, the franchise has gotten so tired and worn out it did nothing in the third movie and found nothing actually funny in it. I definitely wonât be watching it in theatre. this just puts the nail in the coffin when the fact that the first movie was about Drac accepting the fact that he was human. So yeah Iâm not surprised these movies where never cinematic masterpieces are great but they delivered humour and Iâm honestly not surprised it came to this point
Brian Hull really tried to match Adam Sandler's Dracula and that's something I can't hate about him. Plus he's also a genuinely nice dude as well
@Mach tbh when u say it like that, he probably put his best foot forward instead of trying to stray really far from what the audience already liked and was familiar with
I watched the movie without knowing any of the previous information or trailers and honestly, I didn't hear a difference with the voice acting. I believe that Brian did an amazing job for the role.
I can't believe they changed the voice. Like, HOLY SHIT
Honestly, as someone who didnât watch this franchise in a while, I didnât notice, the marshmellow scene felt genuine too, he did good for what it was worth.
Literally could not tell there was even a difference so good for him
Im from romania, and i admit that every movie is acurate to how it is in real life.
To be completely and totally honest I love Hotel Transylvania 1, 2, and 3 much more better. The 4th however not very much.
Because there's no Adam Sandler or Kevin James doing the voicing for the characters, đ¤ and Genndy Tartakovsky does a better and to mention a spectacular job đ of directing the last three movies of Hotel Transylvania.
Brian Hull did a good job tho.. I get that its not the same but replacing a voice actor with someone that can actually do something close to the voice is better thn completely changing a voice or a whole character in normal movies
Having just watched it, I honestly personally believe the 4th movie is better than the 3rd... at least when it comes to the animation, the 3rd movie's movement was just uninspired and boring, the 4th went back to the high octane, energetic and fluid motion of the first two movies that the third movie lacked.
Plus some of the jokes were fun enough... although it got unintentionally hilarious when Dracula left the Hotel to his kid AFTER it got destroyed, my room mate just went "Lmao i leave this ruin to you kids, enjoy the prospects of rebuilding an entire hotel, suckers, time to retire"
This is the first movie I've heard being advertised on the _radio_ (which we're forced to have at work). This was after two release dates failed, which reveals their desperation lol
This movie should've been Mavis realizing her husband is "quirky" but that's not always okay and understanding where her dad was coming from she's always defending him even when he's in the wrong, the whole Time watching all I could think was "he doesn't hate johnny he just thinks he's irresponsible and he has so many different vaild reasons for thinking that!" For example Johnny has fire around frank who we all know doesn't like fire which can cause a whole disaster and all Mavis can say is "I like Johnny for who he is" which is fine but she fails to see he does things without thinking about the consequences and time and time again it messes things up, drac can be chill and cool like Johnny but he thinks about how that can effect his family, friends and the hotel
@Chloe_thefox Studios Personally, I think what made the first film successful because it did had bit of a serious tone to it. I enjoys the film series and appreciates the message of unity, but at the same time I think that maybe they did overdid it a bit. We often see Drac trying to understand these newfound ideas but rarely does Mavis and Johnny tries to understand Drac's views which is kinda bit unfair. They're both from a generation where they rarely have to struggles so their views are about fun and equally. Drac comes from a world where monsters did had to struggled to survived, lost his first love of his life, led monsters during a dark time and raised a child on his own. He knows from experience that life isn't always easy.
For the most part, he is happy with his new life but at the same time, you can't help but wonders if he does feels bit alone in his family. Possibly the only family member who could understand his view is his father Vlad but they have a strange relationship even after Vlad rejoined the family. Johnny is a bit better out of the two since he does tries to understand better why the hotel means so much to Drac and is genuinely sorry about Martha's death. However, it's implies that Mavis really doesn't fully realizes how bad things really were for monsters in the past or how much her mother's death really affected her father. This is why I think it would be an interesting idea if we had a film where Mavis and Johnny travels back in time where they see the reality on how things really were. It's important to move towards to the future, but important to remember and honors the past as well. It's time for Mavis and Johnny to take a step back from their views and learns some hard truths.
@jf k I would paid to see THIS version of them movie, everything is exactly what I wanted form the series and yes I know their kids movies but if this is what they were like they'd be ontop of Disney quality
Here are things that could been explored. Really, exploring all of the monsters' backstories would be interesting. However, Dracula have always been the most fascinating character because he is the guy who you know will think two steps ahead before everybody else does, who is extremely well-educated and the one who will carry others' pain and struggles so that they won't have to. He is a very strong and strong-willed person but he is also extremely private. He won't talk about his past unless he have to. I bet that his friends and Mavis didn't even know that he went to vampire camp until the second film events. What other things that he is hiding and not sharing with Mavis? Here are some other things to explore.
1. Explores more of the animosity between humans and monsters. We know that neither side were completely innocent but it seems that toward to the end it was more of the humans' own paranoid.
2. When and how did Drac meet his future friends?
3. How did Frank/Eunice and Wayne/Wanda meet and hooked up?
4. Wayne and Wanda's first reaction when they found out that they were going to be parents.
5. What other hobbies/knowledge does Drac know besides ballroom dancing, painting, playing the ukulele and having at least basic knowledge of law-making (based on him being able to easily make up a seemingly convincing monster estate law on the spot to Johnny in the recent film).
6. What other places have Drac been to besides Hawaii.
7. More information about Drac and Martha's relationship.
8. Drac's final moment with dying Martha before finding baby Mavis and escaping from the angry mob.
9. Clearly the entire gang were fond of Martha since they wished that she was there for Mavis's 118th birthday. Still it would be cool to see their and other monsters' relationship to her and how they reacted to her death.
10. How did Drac coped with Martha's death while raising Mavis, running the hotel and leading the monsters during a dark time. Clearly, he was able to hide his more extreme sadness from Mavis since she didn't even realized that he was depressed until after they met Ericka.
11. More on Drac's struggles on being a single father. Clearly, he went out of his way to make sure that Mavis was safe and happy. Still, he admitted to Ericka that being a single dad was not easy meaning that there must had been some tense moments between them due to Mavis growing up and increasingly wanting to see the outside world. Unknown to her, there were probably lot of times that he probably was questioning if he was making the right choice.
I like Mavis and she is a good person. But like many teenagers, she think she know better than her parent and because of that she can be a bit preachy to him at times. Both of her parents lived a hard life where monsters were more focused on surviving rather than fairness and fun. They wanted a better life for her. Even long after Martha's death, Drac kept that promise. Mavis really owns her dad everything. Her safety, happiness and even her young family. However, because of lack of experiences, she really got little idea on how lucky she really is. I don't want her to start disliking humans because there are good humans out there like Johnny. But have her kinda takes a step back and really think to herself, oh, so that is why dad acted in this way in the past and maybe I wasn't always being fair to him. Being a true adult is when one person fully realizes/recognizes their parents' sacrifices for you and despite being a young mother, Mavis haven't fully reached to that yet.
@[VALVE] Cozy Glow understandable I'm not the best at forming paragraphs nor explaining what I mean
I had an aneurism reading this
When I saw the trailer I instantly thought this movie will be a total disaster because the story line sounded really stupid to be. The concept with the species-switch is actually not bad but I think the story behind how it came to be is
this film suffers from a terminal case of "straight to dvd sequelitis" it has all the symptoms:
1.- not the original cast for the main protagonist of the series
2.- not the same director
3.- half the effort and budget
4.- it was clearly meant to be a streaming plataform release.
The Third one was a fever dream, I have never seen a movie both so greatly animated as well as utter insane as HT3
I literally only watched this cause I thought it was nice that Johnny got some proper characterization for once and I liked the monster design they made for him... Then that gigantic fat-fetish looking last transformation showed up on screen and it lost me entirely
They really underutilized the gimmick of the monsters turning human. It was really underwhelming and the movie did feel less exciting and fun than the previous 3. And this is coming from someone who really enjoyed the 3rd movie.
Isn't Mavis supposed to be super strong? She was so weak. Wtf happened to her compared to when she was kicking vampire butt back in the second movie?
THE SECOND AND FIRST ONR WERE GREAT ALSO
@NITRO GT itâs my favorite too. I really enjoyed the Van Helsings and the fun setting.
THE 3RD ONE IS MY PERSONAL FAVORITE
All the monsters should've turned human, including Mavis. That would've been interesting.
The Mitchells vs The Machines was one of the few road trips movies I really really liked! Iâd definitely recommend watching it, and even you made a video about it, even better! đ
*only kind of sort of a road trip movie*
Brian Hull being recognised enough to land a massive movie role makes me very happy. It's just he does so many other, way better impressions soâŚ
Watching this with my brother made me die inside. Quality in kids or family movies have gone down over the years when disneylike companies found out u can make the same amount of money without the effort.
To me, the problem was a combination of Drac, Johnny and Van Helsing. Yes, Drac told few lies to avoid having few uncomfortable conversations with his family but Van Helsing was the one who build the machine in the first place while Johnny was the one who made the choice to take up his offer to turned into a monster. Ericka doesn't even bothers to defend her great-grandfather when she find out the truth and Johnny himself seems to realized that he went a bit overboard this time since he does offers Drac to rebuild the hotel the same way when it catches on fire in the end.
Dracula's problem with leaving the hotel to Johnny was that he's a spaz and his wacky ideas would ruin the hotel, not that he's human. Drac just uses the excuse that he's human to go back on giving the hotel to him without hurting his feelings. But that's kind of a nitpick everything else you said is right. This movie's a drag. Does make you wonder why Johnny never wanted to be turned though.
yea Johnny is a doofus
@Moody Moo Right? This is the kind of Johnny whoâd throw a surprise party the he would like not one Dracula who like. B hole energy radiates from this guy.
@Moody Moo right. Like in part 3 he's the one who talked Mavis down when she was mad about drac sad Erica. Showing emotional maturity and empathy even if he is a goof. They kind of touch on it briefly at the campfire scene in this one but aside from that Johnny is just a doofus.
Give us a scene with Johnny putting thought into the surprise. Let the audience understand that even if he was misguided the decision made sense at least from his point of view.
Honestly Drac wasnât even in the wrong for not wanting to give it to him?? He couldnât even organise his âsurprisesâ in the anniversary party and nearly decapitated someone and started a fire...the way heâs represented in the movie does not make him in anyway seem fit for running a hotel. They ruined his character by making him way to goofy and dumb.
I hate to see this movie, no offense. Because first Johnny is so irresponsible and immature that he just ruins everything not to mention mavis trying to defend him. Like Johnny always breaks things and its so sad to see Drac trying to make things perfect and right but mavis always sees the bad side of him. Mavis goes to Johnny first, like when she hugged him first and gets mad at his dad because he âliedâ I mean he is just concerned about his hotel which he worked hard for since she was born or even before. Then after she gets mad at her dad, she then regrets it and say sorry, bruh. She its even concerned what happened to her dad, I mean her dad is a human, he could have been hurt so badly.
Iâm sorry for the people who liked this film lol. Maybe itâs becuz im asian and if I got mad at my parents or just talked back at them, I might not be alive tomorrowđ
To explain
It goes through a plot what I swear we already had (not the whole transformations thing the drac doesnât like Johnny part) and therefore makes it as predictable as possible
Mavis gets mad at drac for letâs say theeee 3rd time (idk I forgot what happened in the 1-3rd movie
And follows them with the new character additions
It was rarely funny and all emotional moments fell flat
I donât recommend sadly :(
When I heard about this movie I thought it was going to be a short or like a mini movie. Then I watched it and I wondered why they didnât do that.
The animation was so weird. Mavis loved out of place for most of the movie. Most of the characters looked like character models from other movie that they smashed together. Like a an old Scooby-Doo crossover with Batman. It just didnât fit. And it wasnât good.
Seriously... whoever wrote this plot completely dropped the ball. We already did this movie story in the last 3........ Drac and Johnny had a great relationship by this movie... This was just a "GIANT" let down đ¤Śââď¸đ¤Śââď¸đ¤Śââď¸
Wasnât Ice Age and Shrek already enough proof that any movie series will be ruined if it is forced to go on for too long?
Shrek? No. Only bad movie was really the third one, but I honestly think people exaggerate with that one. And the fourth was a masterpiece.
But Ice Age? Absolutely.
I didnt like this movie either. While watching it i had so many questions
Was Jonny always this insufferable?
Hasnt drac already learned to accept and tolerate Jonny before?
Why was everything so frustrating??? Like first jonny almost killing multiple people at a party, fucking around with drac making him panic and not give them the hotel, jonny turning into a monster and running around the hotel to find mavis knocking everything down, the whole trip to the crystal (that was just basically dracula torture), and so much more. I felt so mad at everything.
I hated how they made every other character besides Jonny and dracula side characters. I mean they just completely erased denis, mavis brought everyone that was humanified to go get jonny and drac because she didn't think it was safe to keep them at the hotel, but she didn't bring her own son?? And that one dog girl, all her other siblings were there, why was she excluded???
I feel like they exaggerated jonnys character, cause i genuinely can't remember him being so annoying. This movie is so disappointing, I definitely wrote way too much but whatever.
@jf k pls pls write the 4th*** movie, I will try my best to animate it, I want to see this happen so bad đđ
@Joshua Gonzalez Personally, I think what made the first film successful because it did had bit of a serious tone to it. I enjoys the film series and appreciates the message of unity, but at the same time I think that maybe they did overdid it a bit. We often see Drac trying to understand these newfound ideas but rarely does Mavis and Johnny tries to understand Drac's views which is kinda bit unfair. They're both from a generation where they rarely have to struggles so their views are about fun and equally. Drac comes from a world where monsters did had to struggled to survived, lost his first love of his life, led monsters during a dark time and raised a child on his own. He knows from experience that life isn't always easy.
For the most part, he is happy with his new life but at the same time, you can't help but wonders if he does feels bit alone in his family. Possibly the only family member who could understand his view is his father Vlad but they have a strange relationship even after Vlad rejoined the family. Johnny is a bit better out of the two since he does tries to understand better why the hotel means so much to Drac and is genuinely sorry about Martha's death. However, it's implies that Mavis really doesn't fully realizes how bad things really were for monsters in the past or how much her mother's death really affected her father. This is why I think it would be an interesting idea if we had a film where Mavis and Johnny travels back in time where they see the reality on how things really were. It's important to move towards to the future, but important to remember and honors the past as well. It's time for Mavis and Johnny to take a step back from their views and learns some hard truths.
@jf k justâŚâŚ.
beautiful ;>
Here are things that could been explored. Really, exploring all of the monsters' backstories would be interesting. However, Dracula have always been the most fascinating character because he is the guy who you know will think two steps ahead before everybody else does, who is extremely well-educated and the one who will carry others' pain and struggles so that they won't have to. He is a very strong and strong-willed person but he is also extremely private. He won't talk about his past unless he have to. I bet that his friends and Mavis didn't even know that he went to vampire camp until the second film events. What other things that he is hiding and not sharing with Mavis? Here are some other things to explore.
1. Explores more of the animosity between humans and monsters. We know that neither side were completely innocent but it seems that toward to the end it was more of the humans' own paranoid.
2. When and how did Drac meet his future friends?
3. How did Frank/Eunice and Wayne/Wanda meet and hooked up?
4. Wayne and Wanda's first reaction when they found out that they were going to be parents.
5. What other hobbies/knowledge does Drac know besides ballroom dancing, painting, playing the ukulele and having at least basic knowledge of law-making (based on him being able to easily make up a seemingly convincing monster estate law on the spot to Johnny in the recent film).
6. What other places have Drac been to besides Hawaii.
7. More information about Drac and Martha's relationship.
8. Drac's final moment with dying Martha before finding baby Mavis and escaping from the angry mob.
9. Clearly the entire gang were fond of Martha since they wished that she was there for Mavis's 118th birthday. Still it would be cool to see their and other monsters' relationship to her and how they reacted to her death.
10. How did Drac coped with Martha's death while raising Mavis, running the hotel and leading the monsters during a dark time. Clearly, he was able to hide his more extreme sadness from Mavis since she didn't even realized that he was depressed until after they met Ericka.
11. More on Drac's struggles on being a single father. Clearly, he went out of his way to make sure that Mavis was safe and happy. Still, he admitted to Ericka that being a single dad was not easy meaning that there must had been some tense moments between them due to Mavis growing up and increasingly wanting to see the outside world. Unknown to her, there were probably lot of times that he probably was questioning if he was making the right choice.
I like Mavis and she is a good person. But like many teenagers, she think she know better than her parent and because of that she can be a bit preachy to him at times. Both of her parents lived a hard life where monsters were more focused on surviving rather than fairness and fun. They wanted a better life for her. Even long after Martha's death, Drac kept that promise. Mavis really owns her dad everything. Her safety, happiness and even her young family. However, because of lack of experiences, she really got little idea on how lucky she really is. I don't want her to start disliking humans because there are good humans out there like Johnny. But have her kinda takes a step back and really think to herself, oh, so that is why dad acted in this way in the past and maybe I wasn't always being fair to him. Being a true adult is when one person fully realizes/recognizes their parents' sacrifices for you and despite being a young mother, Mavis haven't fully reached to that yet.
Yup, flanderization at itâs finest..
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Honestly, I have no problem with the series, probably the family side of me that enjoys it, what can I say?
I've seen it now and I actually really enjoyed it.
I actually kinda liked the movie, the animation is nice and crisp, and it's a fun kid's movie. I watched it with my younger sister and she loved it. I think you may be reaching a tad, but all due respect to you all the same. I don't review movies, you do, so I may be missing something.
it woulda been cool for this movie to have a darker theme like Johnny realizing his wife will outlive him, which is why he wants to turn into a monster or somethin
Yknow, they really missed out on the opportunity to turn Johnny into a vampire. It could of showed how jhonny and Dracula get a better look into eachothers lives. But also it would make more sense because his wife and kid are vampires? I honestly thought we were gonna have a movie dedicated to him being a vampire because he'll die before seeing his kid grow up and he can't grow old with Mavis
@et37 Thanks!
@The Fat Piranha Plant bruh how was that not done instead holy shit.
Idea: Have Drac decide to stay human so Johnny and Mavis can grow old together and he can grow old with his wife
@ki stephen
It would be better if that would be the closing remarks, they also could've made the 3d animated made Hotel to see what we're going for in their future in the end as we move on to life and as well as theirs
@Real GM M wow that sounds amazing and like an actual plot