Crime pledges: Where's the money coming from? - BBC Newsnight

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  • Published on Aug 13, 2019
  • Prisons in England and Wales are to receive £100m to improve security and cut crime, the government has said.
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    This follows another £2.5bn pledge from Prime Minister Boris Johnson to create 10,000 extra prison places in order to bring in longer sentences for violent and sexual offenders.
    But where is this money coming from and will these measures make the UK safer? Or is it all just a pre-election ploy to get voters on side?
    Elizabeth Glinka reports from Birmingham.
    Matthew Ryder QC, former Deputy Mayor for Social Mobility and Community Engagement, and Conservative MP Sir Geoffrey Clifton-Brown - the senior Conservative on the public accounts committee and treasurer of the 1922 Committee - join Emma Barnett in studio.
    Newsnight is the BBC's flagship news and current affairs TV programme - with analysis, debate, exclusives, and robust interviews.
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Comments • 89

  • Kieran Garland
    Kieran Garland 3 months ago +1

    Great questioning.

  • Oliver van der Togt
    Oliver van der Togt 3 months ago +1

    Fight the symptoms and ignore the causes. See what happened in NY with the stop and search: racism on steroids. Populism 101.

  • ChawenHalo 008
    ChawenHalo 008 3 months ago +2

    The usual Tory BS tough speak from post war period... With the UK population getting poorer its only going to get worse.

  • cary bary
    cary bary 3 months ago

    When was the last time Bbcnews heckled mayor kahn over the crime rate?

  • abcun17
    abcun17 3 months ago

    Blah, blah, blah we are not responsible for what our communities are doing... blah, blah, blah because racism and discrimination...blah, blah, blah...we are against everything but have no alternative to present...blah, blah, blah...we are good at pretending nothing is happening...blah, blah, blah...

  • Sir Amic Varze
    Sir Amic Varze 3 months ago +2

    Another pointless headline grabbing policy. Stop and search does nothing to stop crime and bringing in new police officers that they claim to want will still leave the overall numbers lower than when the Tories took over in 2010.

  • KEVIN HESKETH
    KEVIN HESKETH 3 months ago +1

    The psychologists the psychiatrists the scientist the television executives involved in giving a British man manufactured artificial schizophrenia against his will ,why are they not arrested in the courts for a obvious human rights crime?Oh!television collaborate as a shield,who wants to meet or know you for brain rape and thinking so much of yourself is vanity.You remind me of the jeweller who called every thing he made was crap.You work in television,you make crap and i don't watch or like you.You collaborate in campaign of civil harassment,autosuggestions and shielding a brain rapist.
    Your finished you make crap you stole a human life you commit house burglary.
    You were not invited by your victim and you will be rejected and the damage of relationships is unbelievable human rights crime and other crimes.

  • Bintu Adam
    Bintu Adam 3 months ago +1

    The best crime prevention is deterrence. Good job Prime Minister Johnson and Home Secretary Priti Patel.

  • A P
    A P 3 months ago +2

    Prison sentences should definitely be longer

  • Geoff Poole
    Geoff Poole 3 months ago +4

    Someone point out to these idiots it was the Tories who cut police numbers by 20,000. Stop and search is not a very effective tactic.

  • California Dreamin'
    California Dreamin' 3 months ago +1

    Bollox to Brexit, I've had a bellyful of Boris Johnson lies.

    • California Dreamin'
      California Dreamin' 3 months ago

      Qwad Luzr Farage is not that stupid. He doesn't what to give up on his EU salary, expenses and pension.....for doing NOTHING.

    • Qwad Luzr FPV
      Qwad Luzr FPV 3 months ago

      @California Dreamin'
      Then Farage gets the keys to number 10.

    • California Dreamin'
      California Dreamin' 3 months ago

      Qwad Luzr Boris will let you down.

    • Qwad Luzr FPV
      Qwad Luzr FPV 3 months ago

      @California Dreamin'
      Far from it, I'm smiling from ear to ear. Looking forward to 31st. 👍

    • California Dreamin'
      California Dreamin' 3 months ago

      Qwad Luzr No I haven't. Have you ?

  • Joe Stuart
    Joe Stuart 3 months ago +1

    All well and good, great if it is done correctly, if those powers are to target those profiled as needing to be stopped, rather than powers being abused to make them applicable to all, denying people of their rights. There are ample examples of police abusing thier powers to bully and illegally arrest individuals for ding nothing more than maintaining their rights under the law. With the way they have structured the pay scales for the police, it does not stack up. Why would you risk you life for a rather low wage, considering the risk. The same applies to the Army, put you life on the line or work for a company that appeciates your efforts in a monitary way.

  • Rod Hayward
    Rod Hayward 3 months ago +5

    How about a water cannon, money well spent?

  • deadsouls72
    deadsouls72 3 months ago +2

    Get it from Africa, since that's where most of the crime originates.

    • A P
      A P 3 months ago

      deadsouls72 idiot

  • MikeT
    MikeT 3 months ago +3

    Maybe they have planted a magic money tree in the rear garden of number 10

    • GuP Brink
      GuP Brink 3 months ago

      The Johnson government can simply print money. The national debt is only slightly above the EU average, so there is still room enough for handing out presents to win some conservative votes for the upcoming elections.

    • Fake News Sucks
      Fake News Sucks 3 months ago

      MikeT they have its called USA which is no bad thing even though it means we will most likely have to suck up to them quite a bit but hey that’s better than sucking up to the saudis who currently supply Eu with money and keep us r9ch buy purchasing weapons 0f mass destruction and Chinese via hsbc

  • John Msx
    John Msx 3 months ago

    Make crime pay. These people live in houses worth 100's of 1000's, even millions, drive round in expensive new cars, never had a job, and paid very little tax. Come on HMRC get a fucking grip.

  • Bodine Jeremiah
    Bodine Jeremiah 3 months ago +1

    Powers and interpretations the cops knows the majority of knife crime in our major city’s is coursed by blacks and Pakistani along with all these Eastern Europeans they’ve let in the country so the easier targets are indigenous whites that are not protected by racial laws all Boris Johnson is doing is a Thatcher building more prisons handing over more power to the cops judiciary and courts he’s wasted no time since being put in Downing st it’s money in the bank he knows well enough the problems we’re been experiencing with law and order can be laid firmly at the governments door

  • Fints Poon
    Fints Poon 3 months ago +3

    this women is fantastic.

    • Walrave
      Walrave 3 months ago +1

      Like Paxman in the good old days. I love it when spin is shot down like that.

  • weaverspell
    weaverspell 3 months ago +4

    We need more Prisons to house Remainer Ultras after October 31 when the round up begins to tackle those subverters of Democracy!!!

    • Qwad Luzr FPV
      Qwad Luzr FPV 3 months ago

      Amen. The BBC could definitely use a purge.

  • J. Harris.
    J. Harris. 3 months ago +1

    Notice the devious 'false choice dilemma ' that the BBC have set up here? Implying that vote winning policies somehow can't equate with effective crime cutting.

    • J. Harris.
      J. Harris. 3 months ago

      Aaaaaand they change the headlines!

  • Origins686720
    Origins686720 3 months ago

    Still no talk on Police reform nor the quality of Policing in London, were just getting more of the abusive same, it's either no Police, or Shit head Police aka Racist White Supreme radicals playing Cop. Were getting more of the latter I'm afraid, Boris is either dence or like minded.

  • Tiny mod
    Tiny mod 3 months ago +2

    Notice no film of pocs or Muslims being arrested

  • liam hooks
    liam hooks 3 months ago

    WHY DO YOU DISABLE COMMENTS ON CERTAIN VIDEOS?
    Not this video of course. The videos with a 5/1 dislike ratio, the ones where the public disagrees with your narrative.
    Why are we good enough to pay a license fee for your trash, but not good enough to have a voice when we disagree with your propaganda.
    The EU is about to push a bill which will destroy independent content creators; how convenient, the people you cannot compete with out of the way and then you can continue to brainwash the public like you always haves
    Shame on you!

  • Ben Curry
    Ben Curry 3 months ago +1

    Governments, especially conservative ones usually look at interventionist or control methods of crime stopping. So more police or granting them ever more authoritarian powers and privileges. But this fails to address the root cause of crime which will regardless of these vote winning promises will continue to produce criminals. The source of which is poverty, our society being too focused on profit and gain and less and less about community and harmony. Crime has risen because of poor conditions due to Conservative led austerity, as well as an out of control capitalist society that continues to degrade socialist values of community and togetherness, in favour of personal gain and indulgence. This seeps down into the pysche of our children and teaches them that selfishness, over indulgence and violence are positive attributes. Hence crime rises, and our governments continue to patch up problems, when in fact the entire pipe needs replacing.

    • J. Harris.
      J. Harris. 3 months ago

      Left-liberal drivel. Poverty has decreased significantly through-out the last 100 years, but crime has spiked, including violent sexual offences, which have nothing to do with socio-economics. The chart shows offences per 100,000 people in England and Wales during the 20th century.
      www.parliament.uk/ImageVaultFiles/id_11178/cf_578/olympic-crimeanddefence-crime-chart1-standard.jpg

  • Amenhotep The Third
    Amenhotep The Third 3 months ago +4

    How about trying to PREVENT crime rather than dealing with it after the event? It's a proven fact that longer sentences and SAS do not work and the US is a perfect example. More prisoners that any western nation by a long, long way. Remember, these people have to be released some day after years of being treated like animals. Fancy having that person live next door to you? Then of course, they have no chance of getting a job so what do they do? They commit more crimes.

    • Epic
      Epic 3 months ago +2

      J. Harris. You clearly don’t live in the united states because the 3 strike rule is only in California 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • Amenhotep The Third
      Amenhotep The Third 3 months ago

      @J. Harris. No not implying there are none in place. However, they are clearly not working. We need a radical overhaul. It's understandable and perfectly reasonable to want extreme punishments but as I say, that is hopeless at reducing crime. I'm happy to be pointed to any examples in the world where that approach works.

    • J. Harris.
      J. Harris. 3 months ago

      Implying that preventative measures aren't already in place. Further, the US has an entirely different population demographic than any other western nation, and its stupid three strike rule is why their prison population is so high.

  • Paulo de Tarso Porrelli
    Paulo de Tarso Porrelli 3 months ago +1

    Good discussion. Thanks.📺

  • Darren Lewey
    Darren Lewey 3 months ago +3

    The US has high rates of imprisonment per capita. High rates of crime. High rates of inequality and low levels of educational training compared to other developed nations. So why should prisons be the first port of call other than for vote winning amongst populists fed on a diet of tabloid fodder.

    • benbow7
      benbow7 3 months ago

      @Epic - according to Wikipedia, in 2017 black people made up 12.7% of the US population and 53.5% of the arrests for murder.

    • Epic
      Epic 3 months ago

      J. Harris. That’s just blatantly untrue but nice try lol. The USA has more mass shooters than any country, a large percentage of them being white. Being acquitted doesn’t mean you aren’t guilty. White people like Casey Anthony and a laundry list of police officers get off murder charges constantly. Also IQ doesn’t determine whether or you are violent, just how much more likely you are to be violent.

    • J. Harris.
      J. Harris. 3 months ago +1

      They have a completely different racial/IQ demographic than any other western nation. Subtract their Black-Hispanic convicts and the USA is roughly on par with the rest of Europe. Further, since the 1950s, crime and recidivist rates have skyrocketed in the UK as more liberal "preventative" measures have been introduced. Those are the statistical facts, though I doubt your average middle-class Guardian reader who dwells in the safest parts of the country would realise that. The chart shows offences committed per-100,000 people in England and Wales during the 20th century. www.parliament.uk/ImageVaultFiles/id_11178/cf_578/olympic-crimeanddefence-crime-chart1-standard.jpg

  • Eje
    Eje 3 months ago +1

    Given the situation in the USA, concerning criminal justice or lack of it, this country has the opportunity to led the world in the right direction for the 1st time in its history. An opportunity has opened up for the UK to be seen to be doing the right thing and Brexit might be the impetus needed to do JUST that!

  • Qwad Luzr FPV
    Qwad Luzr FPV 3 months ago

    Emma Barnett was accused of negative spin over her take on US-UK trade deal today, on 5 Live.
    She said "I'm just trying to get to the detail" and then went on to provide no detail or facts whatsoever. Not a word that Bolton actually said, no information at all. But we did get an EU extremist to give us his impartial view...
    😂😂😂

    • Qwad Luzr FPV
      Qwad Luzr FPV 3 months ago

      @Darren Lewey
      He was a special adviser to Nick Clegg. Go on, tell me he's impartial.......

    • Qwad Luzr FPV
      Qwad Luzr FPV 3 months ago

      @Darren Lewey
      I mean those who would overturn the referendum result, turning us into a post democracy where powerful institutions and individuals would have a veto over our democracy. The people who find themselves politically aligned with the SNP and political IRA.

    • Darren Lewey
      Darren Lewey 3 months ago

      When you say 'EU extremist' do you mean someone who has issues with the Leave campaign and how successive governments have handled Brexit. We've gone from the 'easiest deal in history' to "we cannot guarantee there will be no job losses' today so if EB's impartiality breaks cover, you can understand why.

  • The Grumpy Englishman
    The Grumpy Englishman 3 months ago +3

    Yeah it's "silly" getting tough on crime.... Let's all just let them do what they like.

    • ed pp
      ed pp 3 months ago +3

      You have to do what works. If its sending them all to the bahamas for a couple of weeks then thats what you should do. Unless there is something you particular enjoy about a never ending cycle of poverty/crime/civil unrest. It might make you feel better to point the finger at inadequacies and failings in other humans less fortunate than yourself, but being tough on crime simply does not work. People commit crimes for all sorts of reasons, more often than not out of desperation. Desperate people are not good at weighing the consequences.

  • Kerr Dorman
    Kerr Dorman 3 months ago +3

    This QC just contradicted himself he said longer sentencing does not stop re-offending. Well surely a ten year sentence is twice as effective as a five year sentence for a criminal, who has an extra five years in prison to not commit crimes you cant reoffend if u are locked up?

    • Geoff Poole
      Geoff Poole 3 months ago +1

      Will that offender serving a ten year sentence be an offender upon release? Very probably. The QC doesn't live in a high crime area that's for sure.

  • Kerr Dorman
    Kerr Dorman 3 months ago +5

    BBC anti-Brexit, bias, bollocks. Always love an anti-brexit scare story. Spent less than 10 seconds on the fact that 54% of the population would support pro-rogueing parliament to get brexit done.

    • Kerr Dorman
      Kerr Dorman 3 months ago +1

      @Darren Lewey it depends on the predictions you choose to believe. Whilst I think Brexit will be a positive I agree the nation will be divided whatever the outcome. I find Labour to be the biggest liars of all and I will never vote for them again.

    • Darren Lewey
      Darren Lewey 3 months ago

      @Kerr Dorman Until people educate themselves that Tories do not have their best interests in mind, that newspapers peddle twaddle, I fear there's a bleak future ahead and as for the opposition. Ditto. A second two stage Ref between no deal, deal and stay would find a way through. But the divisions will not recede in the near future. If no-deal is half as what's predicted then the population will need managing as there will be anger and hopefully the end of the Tory Party.

    • Kerr Dorman
      Kerr Dorman 3 months ago +1

      @UCiGDmQue1ux8F4MNDXCfObQ ok then considering the EU will not give us a deal, (which I believe they would if we had a united parliament wiilling to carry out the will of the people instead of blocking leave at every opportunity, effecively weakening our negotiating position) what do you propose we do? My option is leave with no deal as I don't believe an other referendum would not be respected by remainers, the lib dems have alreeady stated tgey wont respect the result if leave wins. And if remain wins by 52% then obvs leavers will not respect that result out of principle.

    • Kerr Dorman
      Kerr Dorman 3 months ago +1

      @Darren Lewey it said in or out on the ballot paper. Not out with a deal or did I miss something?? The fact is the EU offered a deal nobody liked. So they're refusal to offer a better deal means the default is no deal. Which I and apparently 54% of the population agree with.

  • Glenn Leinster
    Glenn Leinster 3 months ago +9

    Well done girl a good interview from BBC Newsnight at last:-)

    • Karen Walkeden
      Karen Walkeden 3 months ago +1

      It's because they have no father's in the house.

    • Eje
      Eje 3 months ago +1

      It's just another opportunity to divide and rule law abiding citizens!

  • Slaine Saxon
    Slaine Saxon 3 months ago +8

    Putting the most violent people away and keeping safe the public, along with more police on the streets is all law abiding public want to hear.

    • Darren Lewey
      Darren Lewey 3 months ago +1

      @Justin M You can research these yourself but cuts to community funding for young males and active schemes to focus their minds away from gangs would be a staring point for you.

    • Slaine Saxon
      Slaine Saxon 3 months ago

      @Epic if they commit violent crime they aren't decent folk, unless manslaughter. Higher sentencing for violence, rape and any identity politics from left or right. Any racism is out the question, get a grip.

    • Epic
      Epic 3 months ago +1

      Slaine Saxon Lol crime CAN be much more complicated than that. You can be a “decent folk” and still commit a crime. A bit of a delusional perspective. Stabbing a and mugging are a different story. Britain has a major problem with not sentencing robbers and stabbers/pedophiles/physically dangerous crimes. Focus on that. Don’t fuck up people’s lives for things like cannabis or you’re just backsliding.

    • Epic
      Epic 3 months ago +1

      J. Harris. Ww1 ww2 and the Vietnam/Korean wars were probably the most damaging wars in the world and guess who was behind them? White men(except Korea which is complicated but still involves many white men).

    • Epic
      Epic 3 months ago

      Justin M Laws and police.

  • Kim Kitten
    Kim Kitten 3 months ago +3

    Hang a few.

  • Fake News Sucks
    Fake News Sucks 3 months ago +3

    Bbc propoganda tell us about the newly revealed Jeffrey Epstein allegations involving a 3 some with a certain prominent royal

    • Fake News Sucks
      Fake News Sucks 3 months ago

      Geoff Poole thinking’s about it was not his brother a famous friend of the knighted mr saville

    • Geoff Poole
      Geoff Poole 3 months ago +1

      Now who could you be thinking of?

  • Michael J. Spencer
    Michael J. Spencer 3 months ago +6

    Fake News strikes again...