Game of Thrones Season 8 Episode 5 explained

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  • Andy B
    Andy B 21 hour ago +1

    “...Prophecy is like a treacherous woman. She takes your member in her mouth, and you moan with the pleasure of it and think, how sweet, how fine, how good this is... and then her teeth snap shut and your moans turn to screams... Prophecy will bite your prick off everytime,”

    ― George R.R. Martin, A Feast for Crows

  • akev2794
    akev2794 23 hours ago

    Using dragonfire during an attack is NOT REMOTELY THE SAME AS DESTROYING THE WHOLE CITY AFTER A SURRENDER. You'd think this was patently obvious, but apparently not.

    It'd be one thing if the bells weren't rung, or it'd be one thing if, after they WERE rung, she destroyed the red keep/burnt the lannister soldiers, but this was stupid.

  • elvisglasses 5
    elvisglasses 5 Day ago

    This episode has left a lingering queasiness in my gut. I can't believe the way they trashed 7.5 years of character development and emotional beats in their stampede for the finish line. Absolutely incomprehensible. (I'm looking at you, Jimmy Lannister. Wtf did you did with Jaime "burn then all/Kingslayer" Lannister.)

  • Teed Epefanio
    Teed Epefanio Day ago +1

    ....this is the fall of a once great storyline... I like this IN DEEP GEEK show, so much more, than GOT, itself. Comprehensive, every time... unlike, season 8 of GOT... thx, bro.. I love your show.

  • Christopher Snow

    Varys had king's blood... he's the bastard child of a king... which I couldn't tell you, but that's why they took his "man bits" and put them in the fire, to do stronger fire magic like they did with Gendry. Varys had his head shaved at all times... think about why? Because he was a Targaryen and needed to conceal his white/blond hair lest King Robert kill him.

  • PeterJames Foote

    Shot of Drogon’s shadow shows it just as he turns away. Who is in control is still at issue.

  • PeterJames Foote

    I distrust the assumption of J/C death because of previous twists. Be satisfied by it because it would make Jamie the Valonqar who has his hands on his sister’s throat as she “died”.

  • PeterJames Foote

    The horse could also have been warged by Bran who has no need of Drogon anymore.

  • PeterJames Foote

    At 10:55 in your video you notice what I did, that we never see Dany in control of Drogon as he burns. Consistently in this series assumed facts are often mistaken.

  • PeterJames Foote
    PeterJames Foote Day ago +1

    It’s intended to be horrific as a nuclear weapon unleashed on a city would be. I don’t think it’s an accident that the ash covering the city looks more like the destruction of Hiroshima/Nagasaki rather than Pompeii.

  • PeterJames Foote

    I think that Dany May try to kill Tyrian but will she succeed. He at root is a survivor and has many allies.
    The reason the bells ringing doesn’t work is because of Bran warging Drogon perhaps for reasons we can’t see. Though he does have motives, means and opportunity to ruin Dany’s hopes or destroy hidden resistance,

  • Bender Rodriguez

    Beautifully explained.

  • Ababmer Vid
    Ababmer Vid Day ago

    No the show is now shit

  • Ritika Tiwari
    Ritika Tiwari Day ago

    Have you ever done an audio book before? I think I have listened to an audio book in this voice

  • Vanessa Realrose
    Vanessa Realrose Day ago +1

    Its occurred to me we still don't know what Varys heard in those flames.

  • Lriv Del
    Lriv Del Day ago

    Now that you mention the valonqar prophecy being left out of Maggy the Frog's prophecy in the show, I've always wondered why the show even brought that up after telling us in S1 that Cercei and Robert had a son who died.

  • Michelle Murphy
    Michelle Murphy Day ago

    Daenerys sounds like Hillary Clinton, blaming everyone else.

  • JAFKennedy
    JAFKennedy Day ago

    1st They had Arya running scared for ads for the long night , to make us think she would die . She lived & killed the night king !
    They made us think she would kill The evil Queen . She chose life & then tried to save others while running for her life .
    Now they are trying to make us think she will kill the mad Queen .
    Danny will be betrayed for love . If Arya does kills her it will be to save Jon . Or he will to save her & / or other Starks .
    Or the lest expected so it would be the biggest twist ! Gendry , who she thinks should be grateful / loyal , but forgot to have bend the knee when she gave him Storms End . He might kill her to save Arya , the woman he loves !

  • Kevin T
    Kevin T Day ago

    Who gives a shit .
    Dumb and Dumber didn’t give a shit when they wrote it.

  • Cinch McCoy
    Cinch McCoy 2 days ago

    The simple reason that the show went down hill is because they ran out of book material because the books were written like a screenplay and made it super easy for sub par writers and directors to look good. Most of the awards that this show has received need to go directly to Martin. As far as this video goes I would have to say you did a great job and I almost totally agree with everything you said.

  • Ekaterina Ponizovskaya Devine

    This is a good points but still the plot is too rushed and the turns are not logical. Yes, Dany had that evil side in her but still it is not believable that she had burned the whole city. Moreover, the show maked her turn into villain just overnight. Yes she had reasons to burn something especially after Misandei screamed "Dracaris". But it would be more consistent with the character that she will fly to Red Keep and destroy it. It could cause some battle on the ground and the burning that had been done already to the wall and Red Keep could cause wildfire explosions and that could make her look not so much heroic as she was before. Definitely Tyrion and Varis should be shown as villains as well. They did betray Dany. If Varis killed Dany as he wanted the war would lasted many years and would kill even more people on both sides. And really is burning Varis worse than beheading him? Both are barbaric punishment that westerosi are comfortable with. Arya also shown a little bit bipolar. One moment she is still determined to kill Cerci another she is not. It should not be rushed. Battle with Night king showed multiple problems from the strategy to why he wanted to kill 3eyed raven himself. Second dragon was killed so easy and after that Dany destroyed all the scorpions as if they were nothing. Again it simply was not well thought. So basically the plot is very unconvincing and poor written. Yes, I agree she could make mistakes that could make her look now as a bad person or mad queen but if the show would follow the way it was before that everyone is not particular evil or good then they should make it not so determined and not so cheesy.

  • uncle gargameld gargameld

    the city had been called on to surrender ,they refused ,so the ram had touched the wall leaving the city open to sack , massacre & destruction , Denny was well within her rights

  • Darren Harris
    Darren Harris 2 days ago +1

    What a pleasure it is to hear such intellectual views on a monumental story.

  • waikikikat42
    waikikikat42 2 days ago +1

    I really like the way you explained this. It is spot on!Thank you! Ppl that are signing the petition to get a redo of season 8 need to watch this.

  • Jimmy P
    Jimmy P 2 days ago

    Theres alot of string pulling

  • Number251137
    Number251137 2 days ago +1

    I was expecting some explanation and debate, not a twenty-minute long narration of what happened in the episode. Talk about subverting expectations!

  • mtksbctk
    mtksbctk 2 days ago

    Boring...

  • Gary Crisp
    Gary Crisp 2 days ago

    What happened to the Golden Companies 2,000 horses they brought over.. 😆😳👎

  • Crispy Pickles
    Crispy Pickles 2 days ago

    Sansa is getting the Throne.

  • Margot E
    Margot E 2 days ago

    I think the symbolism of the white horse was the pale horse and sat upon it was death from the 4 horsemen. I think Arya will take Grey Worms face. I think Jon will see "him" with Needle and think he has killed her. Arya will have to take it off. Jon will have to be the one to kill Dany. I wonder if she will tell Drogon not to kill him as he is the last male heir. His first reaction would be to burn him. I hope Drogon goes back to Valeria and is not killed. I do think Jon will go north to reunite with Ghost. This isn't a romantic show but I wish the Direwolves had been used. They are the sigel of the Starks and I wanted to see Nimeria and her pack again.

  • Randon Ceccoli
    Randon Ceccoli 2 days ago

    Its nice you're still defending it

  • Chris Lewis
    Chris Lewis 2 days ago

    she shouldn't ride her dragon at that time of the month

  • Jens Beust
    Jens Beust 2 days ago

    excellent like always ... but something is missing: Daenerys has fulfilled her vision. The angels of the Lord of Light took care in the last seasons. So I do think that Arya will confront Daenerys, and if Daenerys will return to the angel she was, then a new friendship may begin between Daenerys and Arya.Otherwise Arya will propably kill Danerys. And the angels of the Lord of Light can support Daenerys from now on ... so Daenerys still may be the best queen for the next decades of peace for westeros.

  • Theresa Z
    Theresa Z 2 days ago

    the way Sandor and Gregor died reminded me how Gollum falls into the volcano with the ring. Was a nice touch

  • Theresa Z
    Theresa Z 2 days ago

    to be honest I exspected her to burn the city, but I still think the developement of her actually taking this final step could have been laid out better in the last two seasons. Also, it would have made more sense if she had started with destroying the Red Keep and therefore Cersei, and afterward kind of losing control and taking out the whole city. In my opinion at least

  • EIE
    EIE 2 days ago

    Great work, love your narration. Good question regarding Bran. The Dragon will have to be destroyed, gutted. Bran is the only one who will manage that task.

  • KYSam Hanes
    KYSam Hanes 2 days ago

    All Targaryens do not go mad; Maester Aemon in Castle Black was one of the sanest in the series. Dany was one child of three Targaryen children from parents who were mixed. She never showed any signs of actual madness; all her actions were the results of what needed to be done in the situation...until episode 805. I'm not buying any of this shitty excuse for a character development.

  • Nicko Mocanu
    Nicko Mocanu 2 days ago

    Are you an audiobook narrator by proffession, because you really have the sort of vocabulary, cadence and articulation that makes an outstandingly captivating narrator. :D

  • DrRobin F.A.
    DrRobin F.A. 2 days ago

    Thoughtful and informed, as always. I wish I could hear more from you about Jaime. He was one of the most fascinating and complex characters on GoT...but even so I think the writers should have given us more motive for that sudden abandonment of one woman he loved for another. It would have made sense if he'd come face-to-face with Cersei, if he'd been unable to resist her presence. But to just suddenly turn and leave all these people that he loves and wants to defend? I don't get it.

  • Lyanna Tarstark
    Lyanna Tarstark 2 days ago +1

    I missed your Q & A (work) anyways big fan love your videos. I usually do a super chat. My question is what will the Dothraki and Unsullied do if dany does get murdered. Thoughts?

  • L L
    L L 2 days ago

    Robert, thank you for that fabulous analysis, with very little whinging about some of the missteps. Arya gave up vengeance, but not justice. That girl's white horse being burnt black and clutched in her hand moved Arya. I think she'll go after Dany, to punish her, give her Mercy, etc. And so will JOn. Should be interesting.

  • king clovis
    king clovis 2 days ago

    Can you do an episode explaining why Jon Snow has a man bun? Was that even a thing in medieval England? (on which the show is based)

  • Jauwad Nasir
    Jauwad Nasir 2 days ago

    Because Bran knows it'll have to happen in order for him to end up on the Iron Throne.
    Jojen Reed was more right than any of us thought, when he said to Bran that only one thing matter's. "You."

  • Jake Bradminster
    Jake Bradminster 2 days ago +1

    Episode six will be about the destructive forces of feces.

  • Jay Spencer
    Jay Spencer 2 days ago +3

    I demand that this guy narrate an audiobook.

  • Drew Trotter
    Drew Trotter 2 days ago +1

    The past is already written. The ink is already dry.

  • Jane Huttner
    Jane Huttner 2 days ago

    I don't like how they did this section. I think it would have looked more reasonable if Reagal had been alive and after the surrender someone kills Reagal with a spear. She would have had a reason to ignore the surrender. The way they did it, it just makes her look mad. If she truly wanted to get back at Cersei, she could have just gone for the Red Keep and burned that. But she doesn't. She turns against the whole city, burning innocent women & children, Lannister troops and HER OWN TROOPS.

  • M McBride
    M McBride 2 days ago

    I'm not sure what there is to explain about this episode. It was, hands down, the most-expected, least-surprising of the season (the first episode was a snoozefest). Dany becoming the Mad Queen has been evident since the middle of the first season. Characters were killed off to wrap up their storyline. Ta-Da! The only real f*ck up this season has been the entire Night King debacle. THAT was a clusterf*ck of epic proportions but everything else this season should have been completely anticipated to anyone who's watched this show even casually. No one ever wants a show they love to come to an end, and knowing well ahead of time that it is can be far worse than a sudden cancellation, but there have been no real surprises (save that cursed Night King fiasco - ARGH!) to complain about.

  • Jason Jensen
    Jason Jensen 2 days ago +1

    The castle wall coming down at King's Landing reminded me of the Night King taking down The Wall in the North, but flipped. Inside-Out. Fire-Ice. Same Result.

  • Joseph Schneider
    Joseph Schneider 3 days ago

    When Daenerys yelled that she would burn cities to the ground she did it to save her Khalasar. She did cruel things, but she acted on her ideals and cared for her people. This *can* still be the foundation for tyranny, but the show didn't develop it. I am looking forward to reading about Danys downfall in the books, but in the show there are a lot of differences between her and Cersei.

  • Nina Rizzo
    Nina Rizzo 3 days ago +1

    Is it possible that Bran told Tyrion what was going to happen in Kings landing?
    It could of happened when Bran & Tyrion were sitting by the fire starting to talk then the scene was cut away.

  • Zana Mason
    Zana Mason 3 days ago

    And Jon killed his own soldier who was trying to rape a woman....

  • Zana Mason
    Zana Mason 3 days ago

    Why is everybody saying Dany is the mad queen? Cersci has been the mad queen for years...look how she blew things up, the beheadings, the thousands she has killed, the babies she had murdered, the poisonings...she has been the "mad queen" all along.....

  • Ardeas
    Ardeas 3 days ago +3

    Please consider doing narrations! You're an excellent speaker.

  • T Chy
    T Chy 3 days ago

    did Dany propose to Jon (which was Tyrion's suggestion) & he turned her down when she says "let it be fear"??

  • Amisha Johnson
    Amisha Johnson 3 days ago

    I'm just gonna go ahead a predict it now. I think Brahn/Bron (however you spell it) will kill Dany with the crossbow, saving Tyrion from being executed after his trial for treason. I'm predicting this because it's the one thing no one is really thinking about or talking about and clearly Dan and David just wants to do shocking things as opposed to what's consistent or earned.

  • Definitive1
    Definitive1 3 days ago +1

    Everybody's mad about season 8. Can't blame em, but wouldn't it be worse if the show spoiled the books? This way we still get to experience the real story with no spoilers.

    • Definitive1
      Definitive1 Day ago

      +gxd000 Lol that's true. I'm just tryna put a positive spin on an utter disaster.

    • gxd000
      gxd000 2 days ago

      That doesn't mean the TV ending has to be shit

  • Angel Pabon Jr
    Angel Pabon Jr 3 days ago +1

    I'm sorry but D&D did character assassination 2 Daenerys Stormborn!

    • Mirna Tarek
      Mirna Tarek 2 days ago

      why is that? Dany has always been unhinged

  • quanxie013
    quanxie013 3 days ago +1

    The driving forces behind Jaime killing the Mad King was family and/or self preservation. MK told Jaime to kill his father or he'd have Jaime killed. That's it. Saving the city when he killed the Mad King, was just a byproduct of his actions but he in no way cared about the people of king's landing.

    • elvisglasses 5
      elvisglasses 5 Day ago

      I hate that D&D's incompetent writing and one-episode character assassination has led to theories like this gaining traction. Read the books, friend.

  • Fredrik Fjeld
    Fredrik Fjeld 3 days ago

    First off: The biggest dragon of all time, Balerion, could MELT stone and COOK the people inside. HOW! HOW! does building just crumble here?
    Second: WTF happened with the prophecies of Maggy the frog? Cersei was NOT killed by any of her brothers!
    Third: So Dany has become mad. Like a switch. Some build up, but not a great build up. We know the Mad King became mad over years. She has at so many points protected the weak, that this build up didn't really do it justice.
    What if they had made the common people kill Mellisandre? Or something like that. At least SOMETHING to justify it.

  • Dora In Coimbra
    Dora In Coimbra 3 days ago

    I don't understand why she didn't just go for Cersi rather than destroy a city she wanted to rule. Even after hearing reasons for Dany's actions from various you tube hosts, it still doesn't make sense in terms of the story line. I could see going directly for Cersi who was standing right there in the tower and then a blood thirst still not quenched, destroying the city. That would still raise the concerns of Jon, Arya and others who have followed her and believed in her and continue what I gather will be her demise, but not going after Cersi first just doesn't make any sense. The cinematography was amazing though.

  • Mb H
    Mb H 3 days ago

    I have not seen in ANY of the discussions about 8/5 that explains why Dany could NOT understand Jon's rejection . She had NEVER been informed of the deep Taboo in the North against incest! It would be a rejection of all the values Jon holds dear to break this taboo. Tyrion, Vary and Davoise all mentioned it when they talked about a wedding between Jon and Dany but NO ONE mentioned it to Dany.
    The second thing is the misunderstanding of how Dany was able to destroy the iron fleet when Rhaegal was killed so easy. A dragon WITH a rider is more agle and the riders has the ability to dodge the weapons.......Rhaegal reacted as a wounded animal, Drogon was controlled and directed..........Love your work, Robert....and of course that VOICE lol

  • Adam Kapraun
    Adam Kapraun 3 days ago

    Daenerys was out of line. I would’ve done the same thing that John Snow did if I were in his shoes. She wasn’t true to her cause to the end and now it’s clear that her and the mad king share more than just relation. Can anyone imagine if Hillary had won the election?! ROFL.

  • Apacalypsyagon M.
    Apacalypsyagon M. 3 days ago

    Proud to fall asleep listening to these.

  • najsam4240
    najsam4240 3 days ago

    Maybe Daenerys seemed to be acting out of character because that was not Dany but Jaqen. A slight imperfection in his interpretation might explain why Torgo Nudo was not translated.

  • Lizzie
    Lizzie 3 days ago +1

    That question can be answered easily. The writers suck!

  • storm861706
    storm861706 3 days ago

    Your voice makes this shitty/stupid season - better. But you don't trick me - master of words! The season is bad.

  • LadySandraisaBolton
    LadySandraisaBolton 3 days ago +1

    In Deep Geek always gets it. He applies logic and recalls historical events in the show in order to analyze the episodes. Bravo to you sir 👏🏼

  • The Jester
    The Jester 3 days ago +10

    *We kinda forget that we said Daenerys was the “good Targaryen” and that she’s “not like her father” or “insane.”* - D&D

  • Alberic Darænaugh
    Alberic Darænaugh 3 days ago

    I don´t believe, that Daenarys decided "suddenly", that she should destroy Kings Landing. That was her plan.

    • Alberic Darænaugh
      Alberic Darænaugh 2 days ago

      +Jose Pineda You are right. The writers wanted Daenarys make a sudden decision in the situation, looking at the red keep, sth. personal. ;)
      But this is bull...t.

    • Alberic Darænaugh
      Alberic Darænaugh 3 days ago

      +Jose PinedaOkay - thank you. :) I will take a look at this.

    • Jose Pineda
      Jose Pineda 3 days ago

      Alberic Darænaugh it’s usually after the show is over the writers and director talk about the show. I thought one of them stated that.

    • Alberic Darænaugh
      Alberic Darænaugh 3 days ago

      +Jose Pineda Where did they state this? In my opinion, this wouldn´t make any sense. I think, that Daenarys doesn´t act "mad", but cruel, brutal and inhuman - as "as a dragon". That´s why I think, it was planned as a statement for their allies - follow or die.

    • Jose Pineda
      Jose Pineda 3 days ago

      I thought the writers stated that she didn’t planed it out. That’s why she snapped.

  • Gerald Murrill
    Gerald Murrill 3 days ago +2

    "Daenerys is innocent! It was Brad, BRAD I TELL Y'ALL!!! He warged into Drogo and went ape-shit on Kings Landing." Sticks bagels in ears...
    "LA LA LA LA LA...I CAN'T HEAR YOUUUUUU"

  • Taddawson68 Dawson
    Taddawson68 Dawson 3 days ago

    As always, Thank you Robert. Cheers

  • Kille
    Kille 3 days ago

    I guess Danerys burnt the whole thing because “if I cant have it, no one shall”. I was also wondering ... did Arya get all 3 deaths from Jaquen H’gar? Or does she have one left? And last, is the girl that helped Lord Varys the same girl thatgot burnt with her mother?

  • ProfRaccoon
    ProfRaccoon 3 days ago

    The North remembers, John returns north in dispair, and leaves a destroyed kings landing to Daenerys. She plans war with the Starks. History may repeat itself if wildcard Arya murders Daenerys instead, by using her many-faced-God skills, she is a potential Queen slayer. If so, there will be peace and full mutual understanding between house Lannister and house Stark, but only if Jamy Lannister survives an decides to be king. Grey worm can always become king of Mereen and Dothraki. Bran may tell John to build a new wall of ice, just in case the dead are not totally dead, "the end of GOT"? Or is GOT one big lesson about the downfall of vulnerable kingdoms that heavily depend on the emotional stability of its king or queen, and how parliaments and democracy changed all that, so we might see a glimmer of democracy in the final episode? The iron bank of Braavos would certainly prefer democracies, such that they can introduce eternal 'national debt' that enslaves nations for ever, but this falls outside the scope of the GOT show for obvious reasons. David Benioff (born David Friedman) and Daniel Brett Weiss (both Jewish) know who owns the central BIS bank that enslaved the planet. Do you?

  • Daelyas
    Daelyas 3 days ago

    Wait... why arent you telling me how I can hate this season more? Thats what everybody else is doing apparently ;)

    • Daelyas
      Daelyas 3 days ago

      +Jose Pineda Oh I agree. Sadly that is not the line of thinking most people seem to be following. Its like they actively WANT to ruin their own enjoyment of the show.

    • Jose Pineda
      Jose Pineda 3 days ago

      It’s kinda toxic how everyone is hating it to the max but you can love the show and still give critical criticism about it.

  • Neversmeltit
    Neversmeltit 3 days ago

    That was 👍

  • Bards Corner
    Bards Corner 3 days ago

    Bran did nothing because he is merely a recorder of the history of humanity and it is not his job to change it.

    • Jose Pineda
      Jose Pineda 3 days ago

      He changed Horder though when he went back in time.

  • Dominique Anderson
    Dominique Anderson 3 days ago +4

    I'm very disappointed with the writing. I believe there is no concrete explanation for making Daenaerys harm innocent people. It is not in her character no matter how much anger or grief she felt.
    The fight between Jaime and Euron seemed out of place and had no real anchor in the storyline.
    Jaime disregarding his redemption and love for Brienne was also bizarre and disappointing.
    Season 8 overall has been a let down.

  • Jolly Misanthrope
    Jolly Misanthrope 3 days ago +1

    King's Landing, the symbolic dumpster fire.

    Apparently the scorpions are no longer effective when the plot armor requires it.

    I'm sorry but saying that her burning all the innocents in King's Landing was foreshadowed in the show is quite a stretch. She made threats and talked big because that was all she had before her dragons were full grown. If she was losing the battle and was on the brink of defeat, I might be able to accept her using a scorched Earth approach, but she demolished Cersei's army with little effort and then all of a sudden snaps. Complete nonsense. Her zealousness always came back to protecting innocents and being the breaker of chains, not kill them all and let the lord of light sort them out.

    GRRM told them that this was how Dany was going to end up and they decided to have her completely flip within the span of two episodes.

    If Rhaegal and Missandei are alive in Episode 5, she doesn't do this.

  • Chas X
    Chas X 3 days ago

    Unfortunately, the stupid Dwarf's plans have been shyte

  • Nymri 09
    Nymri 09 3 days ago

    Sansa was never a Pro Dany so she never truly "betrayed" Dany - Sansa made it quite clear how she feels, so I doubt Dany even placed her into betrayal consideration.

  • Bob Vila
    Bob Vila 3 days ago +3

    Dude...you are really dedicating far more thought to taking this show seriously at this point than is warranted. It is only worth expending this kind of effort at this point to cut it apart so that the world understands that D&D are talentless hacks, and that we may prevent them from being empowered to ruin other franchises (star wars) before its too late.

    Armies sure do love to wait outside walls they control rather than use them defensively all of a sudden in this show. Especially when it's convenient for some plot contrivance or another. Like, when Stannis attacked the same city the golden company were defending, and the forces defending the city used the walls and defended gates. Remember that? Dipshit and Dumbass seem to have forgotten, either that or they just didn't expect you to think about it at all. Either way its my fault for not enjoying the show at this point I'm sure. Granted, since scorpions got nerfed and dragon fire is equally as explosive as dynamite (unless its burning people in which case they turn to ash rather than exploding into fleshy shrapnel) I suppose team king's landing were doomed regardless.

    • Nichloas Henson
      Nichloas Henson 3 days ago

      Imagine thinking Star Wars isn't already ruined

  • Anunnaki Menagerie
    Anunnaki Menagerie 3 days ago +3

    It wasn't surprising that Danny went mad... it was suprising that she had cloned another army of unsullied and dothraki. And even more suprising that Drogon didnt get hit once and never runs out of fuel. And completley unbelievable that dragon fire can instantly smash apart brick and stone.

    • Pepsibente
      Pepsibente 2 days ago

      Perhaps the best comment I have read about this episode :-)

  • Christian Gallien
    Christian Gallien 3 days ago

    When Arya sees the white horse among the death and ruin.. I saw something apocalyptic and biblical.. I believe this scene was influenced by Revelation heavily

  • Czarian Higoy
    Czarian Higoy 3 days ago

    Alt Shift X explains it better, but this is good.

  • Julian Wells
    Julian Wells 3 days ago +8

    You've put more thought into it than the writers.

  • John McCain
    John McCain 3 days ago

    Maybe this is all Bran’s vision while he is gone during episode 3. Maybe he actually wakes up in episode 6 and Arya doesn’t get the kill? Then everyone will be left thinking maybe Dany wasn’t so bad after all...

  • Jack Burton
    Jack Burton 3 days ago +3

    I can't wait to see the first conversations between Dany and the other main characters. She is going to demand all bend the knee immediately and possibly go after those she sees as threats. Jon is the biggest threat so what will she do? Will Dany go straight to locking people up? Burning them?

  • d_dave
    d_dave 3 days ago

    Hints are not a substitute for proper character development. I like the idea of turning Dany into the Mad Queen, but think this was done very poorly indeed. The only way I can suspend disbelief is to say that she's simply genetically mad. Deus ex cerebrum. Very unsatisfying. Her character as presented in the series no longer rings true. Burning cities in order to conquer and destroy seemingly evil people isn't the same as killing civilians in a city that has already surrendered. It's still brutal and harsh, but this is psychopathic.

  • K B
    K B 3 days ago

    Bran is the true villain. He set all up to kill the Night King, he knew that Danny would kill all these people, so the Honour of john, will kill the dragon and her mother too. He has no empathy for anything now. He kills ice and fire magic, so the only magic left will be the old Forest Magic wich he belonged to!
    After that, he will go for the manny faced god, kill him and the faceless men, then the god of light and so on
    After he killed any human, nature can grow as it should and he would look after light through the faced trees. Without the night king, dragons and humans, life can be safe forever!!

  • Peter Funk
    Peter Funk 3 days ago

    Yes.
    Everyone is sooooo upset....I figure it was
    / is her destiny.....

  • Guilherme Marques
    Guilherme Marques 3 days ago

    If the writing/directing in this episode was good in regard to Dany, we shouldn't need to reaffirm a whole outside explanation just to make sense of it, that completely throws the drama of the last few seasons and her last scenes to s**t (let's just all agree on that). This already happened before most notably with Greyjoy.
    But still, thank you for the video, it was quite helpful : )

  • Amanda Dallman
    Amanda Dallman 3 days ago

    If Bran did see beyond just a dragon flying over KL, if he saw Dany burning the city and civilians and did nothing, do you think it's because it's the only way to have everyone of Westeros turn their back on her? Thanks to Varys' letters, will they choose Jon as king, would he accept it, or would it lead to the creation of a council or other form of governance? Is Bran such a passive player in the game?

  • Ondor's Lies
    Ondor's Lies 3 days ago +3

    Im pretty sure you're the only channel thats taken the time to think about this season instead of just pissing on it because it didnt go specifically and personally as you wanted it to. Thank you.

  • Jack Rhodes
    Jack Rhodes 3 days ago

    Dany is a Targaryen. I don't mean to oversimplify this but this proclivity has been hinted at forever.

    I'd like to say that episode 5 was by far the best so far of season 8 in my opinion.
    Okay now to Dany's breakdown. There is a tendency by many who watch GOT to think in fairy tales or carytoonish notions. I hear/read it often with this thing about "character arcs." In real life there are no arcs however, there are only decisions and people make them every day.
    There aren't good guys and bad guys where good guys do good things and bad guys do bad things. Sometimes good people do bad things and bad people do good things. More often than not there are just people, people who do things that they deem to be good that others deem to be bad. Sometimes people do things they deem to be good and later realize it is bad.

    Let’s look at Maegor the Cruel, a truly mad and despicable Targaryen, yet I am sure if you asked him he would say he only did what he HAD to do. He would say he was confronted by a defiant and recalcitrant group of zealots and political opponents who forced him to be harsh or suffer the same fate as his feckless brother.

    Now we weren't able to see into Dany's head, in part because this is a made for television depiction and not a book, but surely it is clear that Dany is feeling persecuted, betrayed, isolated, and rejected. Here she is finally in King's Landing, "home", the place she has always dreamed of going and she realizes as she looks over at the Red Keep.... "this is not my home, this is not my people , this is not my city." More than that, these are probably the same people who helped destroy her family and given half a chance would plot the same for her. NO NOOO! She had had to deal with the harpys in Mereen, that must not happen here again. They must learn now. Learn now and learn clearly that she is not to be trifled with, she is not to schemed on (Machiavelli refers to it as “the once and for all”). They must BURN.

  • Hellmuth4
    Hellmuth4 3 days ago

    people aren't stupid, it's been hinted at the whole show but her very sudden commitment to being evil isn't believable. it needed more setup. stop showing old clips like it's been well established. she locked up her dragons when they roasted a little girl now this? it doesn't make sense just based off what i've seen

  • Kevin White
    Kevin White 3 days ago

    Jamie didn't have feelings for Brienne. He wanted to see her succeed, he wanted her future success to be something he contributed to in a meaningful way, and he wanted to feel redemption for who he had been before by gifting what he could to her. Basically, he wanted to be her teacher in things he knew, but didn't feel he deserved as much as she did. Their tryst was again him attempting to give her a gift... because he knew she had feelings for him. He was trying to be selfless.
    In the end, however, he realized he loved his sister, in all good and bad ways, and I think he saw that continuing with Brienne was going to end up being a disservice to her eventually. So, he rationalized he was still giving her a gift, a gift of his absence, and at the same time he was going to try to save or at least be with his true love, Cersei (at least in part because he had nowhere else to go). His commentary of being hateful etc. is just a way to push her away and to move her forward as he leaves, obviously.
    So, at best, Jamie sees himself as Brienne's teacher, maybe benefactor, but not lover. I'm not sure it's even friendship... it's more of a parental thing.

  • PATRICK Mckinnie
    PATRICK Mckinnie 3 days ago

    Show is extra dumb now.

  • Fred Bogs
    Fred Bogs 3 days ago

    I think Dan and David are just tired of the series and it is evident in the writing and the rushed season 8.

  • Sean Herlihy
    Sean Herlihy 3 days ago

    Firstly, I am a big fan of this channel, only found it in the last few weeks but has given me a deeper understanding of the lore or GoT and the many sub plots within. So it is with a certain amount of trepidation that I have to say that I have a problem with the narrative you presented for this episode. While I don’t disagree with anything that was said, it is all about the justification of what has happened not the rationalization of weather it’s should have happened. Most, if not all, of your previous excellent analysis of character motivation and ultimate action has centered around what they would have done given what we know of the character. With this in mind I do feel that Varys would never have been so obvious, Tyrion would not have so readily betray him, John would not have stood bye, Jamie would not have been captured so easily, Aria would not have just realized vengeance was bad because the hound said it too her a few steps away from cerci. As for the ‘Mad Quinn’, there is too much to say. It’s not that it was not destined to happen it the context of the ‘turning’ makes no sense given the character we know. I remember watching an episode of Barbie Dream House with my four year old, one episode the house turned evil. It turns out someone had flicked the ‘evil switch’. While I was watching what unfolded all I could think of was Barbie’s logical question of ‘why exactly does my house have an evil switch?’. A fair question, I think? Beyond the uncharacteristic behavior of our protagonists, there are lots of other more practical issues which annoy me. While yes I agree ‘dive bomb from the Sun’ would have certainly confounded the first ship or two, the other 98 had plenty of time to showcase those targeting skills that were so evident in the last episode. Since when did dragon fire have the level of explosive capability we seen in kings landing? Well clearly sometime since episode 3 where if logic held the dead dragon could have vaporized winterfell and that rock John was hiding behind. Not to mention the fact that being immature to dragon fire not withstanding the night king should have been buried in a 20 foot crater given the subsequent power of Drogon’s fire. Anyway, I could go on a length (I do realize I already have), my main point being at what point to we call this nonsense and stop giving intelligent argument to the nonsense we have been presented with. For me anyway that point has come, this is now just a poorly written, rushed TV show and for me anyway not worth rationalizing.