Is Beauty and the Beast About Stockholm Syndrome?

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  • AkuTenshiiZero
    AkuTenshiiZero 2 days ago

    The way I see it, this is a story about two people have no goddam clue what they're doing. Belle wants a life of adventure and discovery, but she gets in over her head and basically gets over her teen aspirations after a nice hard dosage of reality. Y'know, like we all do, plus magic. Beast is just winging it the whole goddam time. And, well, it all works out eventually.

  • Pinkaugust
    Pinkaugust 4 days ago

    Isn't Belle's character arc to learn how to see beneath the exterior? She's been around plain people all her life, people with basic concerns that she understands quite well and then she's confronted with the beast, a man transformed into a monster because of his cruelty with only one way of redemption: For someone to love him. That's sort of the irony of his curse, because how could anyone do anything but fear him? He's a monster, AND he's cruel. What could anyone possibly find to love in him? Belle doesn't like him in the beginning because she only sees the beast and the cruelty, but as time goes she sees him more and more as a man and less as a monster. She learns to see beyond his exterior and into his soul, and now she understands the villagers better as well. She knows Gaston is not only a good looking, popular manly man, his soul is the monster she first saw in Beast. She can see through him now.
    I guess you could say Belle's character arc is to open her eyes, look at the world instead of books and see the stories of people around her, put her feet back on the ground and live in the real world.

  • Pinkaugust
    Pinkaugust 4 days ago

    That moment you realise that Lindsay Ellis looks more like Belle than Emma Watson does...

  • lakydei
    lakydei 5 days ago

    Excellent video! Also if living in an enchanted castle and fall in love with a monster isn't an adventure idk what it is. Bella got the adventure and got the prince in disguise and got rich so she can travel to wherever she wants and have more adventures, how's that? AAAnd got people that likes her for what she IS! (the servants)

  • Man Ray
    Man Ray 6 days ago

    On Stockholm syndrome. More “Research” needed.

  • Anna Che
    Anna Che 7 days ago +1

    What’s that meme called she used in the beginning?

  • Polina Medvedeva
    Polina Medvedeva 7 days ago

    Your videos make my day every single time! Great content.

  • Bryce Johansen
    Bryce Johansen 7 days ago

    12:47 I think you're oversimplifying this

  • Richard Parker
    Richard Parker 7 days ago

    I always thought it was about trying to convince impressionable young girls that this justforsneaks.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/62720538.jpg should be their preferred romantic ideal. As metaphor, it isn't about the Beast changing, but about Belle seeing him differently as she gets to know him. As I continue to fade into my own single, creepy old manhood, I'm beginning to think maybe I shouldn't object to this message after all. Sadly, I lack the wealth to really pull it off. What is one to do when one resents and envies both the privilege imparted by wealth and the privilege imparted by beauty/popularity/athleticism? Just for the record, I prefer my women Brave.

  • MrTeniguafez
    MrTeniguafez 9 days ago

    **B E A S T Z O N E D**

  • justabitofamug
    justabitofamug 11 days ago

    Idea:
    Frankenstein and beauty and the beast crossover

  • Riot Breaker
    Riot Breaker 12 days ago

    I think Belle just wanted a story, and she definitely got one. "Tale as old as Time".

  • legolassanimelover
    legolassanimelover 13 days ago

    idk if anyone is gonna care about this considering this video is a year and a half old, but at 0:46: "Up" was nominated for Best Picture in 2010 and "Toy Story 3" was nominated in 2012.

  • Marge Simpson's Forehead

    9:22 I fUCKING lost it

  • tcoudi
    tcoudi 13 days ago

    you would love how andrzej sapkowski (author of the witcher) took this story. beast is lonely rich guy he had multiple girls like this and they are in it for the money.

  • Adam Ethridge
    Adam Ethridge 14 days ago

    Old boy just like belly rubs

  • shaylen sanders
    shaylen sanders 15 days ago

    But yea good point

  • shaylen sanders
    shaylen sanders 15 days ago

    If she doesn't stay, then her father would stay and die... so that's not really "not a threat of violence." He was extorting her for her father's safety

  • Serpillard le rusé
    Serpillard le rusé 15 days ago

    I always thought Belle got totally cheated at the end, though: she fell in love with a badass monster and ended up with a bland-looking prince!

  • KonElKent
    KonElKent 15 days ago

    "Stockholm Syndrome" as a standalone illness/affliction/whathaveyou might fall into the "needs further study" box. But under the umbrellas of brainwashed and grooming; which are recognized in the psychiatric/psychological fields, it definitely carries water. So the real question is: Does the Beast groom Belle? Oh, hell yes!
    Belle's "agreement" is made under duress, her father is facing certain death in the Beast's dungeon. She can make a trade for her comparatively healthier life or plan for the funeral. As soon as he sees an opportunity to get what he wants (the "love" to turn human again), he begins to ply her with comforts and gifts. Maybe a case could be made that he is stricken with a conscience when he let's her go. But that doesn't erase the grooming.

  • Psiberzerker
    Psiberzerker 18 days ago

    Okay, first of all, if we're going to psychoanalyze the Didney version, then I just have to point out that Belle is an intellectual emotional sadist. She gaslit the entire town in her opening number, waving books in their faces, while singing openly about how quaint, and illiterate they were. The reason Gaston wasn't up to her standards is he's an Idiot. Bastion had a Library. That's basically it. She's pretty damned anti-social about it, too. She seems to genuinely care about her father (But he's a famous inventor, so it may be intellectual pride there too.) Seeing as she gets top billing, her state of mind at the start is really significant before we start bandying about Stockholm Syndrome.

  • drfreshey
    drfreshey 18 days ago

    But what do you think about the claim some people make that Beast has Lima Syndrome? I assume it's likely more of these same points, but I'm just curious.

  • Sell
    Sell 19 days ago

    The Beast still definitely qualifies as an abuser. He's controlling, violent and angry in the extreme. The story is about forgiveness - but that's exactly the problem. It sends the message that people should forgive their abusers once they start being nice. Maybe in this case the Beast really changed, but real abusers rarely do.

  • Stephanie Romero
    Stephanie Romero 20 days ago

    si bueno la historia se llamaba ALADIN no creo que Jazmin fuese a brillar tanto y siendo Bella la que causa el cambio de la Bestia creo q si tiene importancia fundamental y que de hecho ella sea la prota

  • klj788986sbb
    klj788986sbb 20 days ago

    Honestly, the beast is totally in Belle’s pocket rather than the other way around. Things end up being on her terms, not his.

  • symphoniazelda
    symphoniazelda 21 day ago

    The thing I've always wondered is why no one considered the Beast developed Lima Syndrome. Where the captor sympathizes with the captee and let's them go.
    Probably not but it's been on my mind for years considering the stalkholme debate started
    Anyway. This is really one of my favorite stories regardless of the stalkhome syndrome debate. And this video is pretty imformative helping with my own writing.

  • Marcus Hicks
    Marcus Hicks 21 day ago

    Ah, maybe the theme of female agency is one of the reasons I love Frozen & Tangled so much!!!

  • Blu Cat
    Blu Cat 22 days ago

    Just because a mental illness isn't on the DSM doesn't mean most medical and law professionals don't believe its real it just means that it can't be definitely proven or treated in most cases. Another example is that children can't be diagnosed as psychopaths even though there are extreme signs of psychopathic tendencies, this obviously doesn't mean that most professionals believe that its not possible for a child to be one.

  • M Afxarr
    M Afxarr 23 days ago

    Loved this review. Very insightful

  • GitanAnimex
    GitanAnimex 23 days ago

    I think in this case the adventure that bell wanted was the whole story

  • Christopher
    Christopher 25 days ago

    Millennials are soo cynical lol can't even have fairy tales anymore without this kind of analysis.

  • Laura Juarez-Sanchez
    Laura Juarez-Sanchez 26 days ago

    Quick thought: Jaycee Lee Dugard (2:34) actually hates it when people claim she had stockholm syndrome when she was still with her rapist. She didn't like him and was actually scared of what would happen if he found out she might be trying to escape. That was the level of fear he had enforced upon her. She only went along with his demands due to her will to survive and that was it. It wasn't because she admired him whatsoever. Just wanted to point this out because I don't want someone to mistake her actions as stockholm syndrome.

  • Carien Kotzé
    Carien Kotzé 27 days ago

    2:33 this is a photo of Jaycee Lee Dugard. She was kidnapped and held captive for 18 years and lived as a sex slave to her captor. She did NOT grow affectionate towards this man. She is unhappy that so many people have written her off as someone who has Stockholm syndrome. She is making an effort to change people's view (especially in police force if i remember) on victims of abuse. So please, for the sake of this immensely strong willed woman and many other victims, please respect her and do not label her an example of Stockholm syndrome.

    Here's a recent video on her and her life:
    thexvid.com/video/C520Vwryn6s/video.html

  • Andrea Walker
    Andrea Walker 29 days ago

    Ugh. Than you. I feel like this movie doesn't get enough credit. It has an adventurous protagonist that loves books and has a big heart. She didn't get kidnapped by the beast, but offered to stay in her father's place. That's not how Stockholm Syndrome works (granted I'm not expert).

  • NekoServant999
    NekoServant999 Month ago +1

    what makes a monster and what makes a maaaaan?

  • Poppet Pup
    Poppet Pup Month ago +1

    Oh I feel so much better now, I knew it wasn’t about that

  • Jo Raj
    Jo Raj Month ago +1

    I don't get why people are so angry when the fairy cursed the beast at 11 years old. Guys. It's normal for fairies in european folklore to be complete bitches. They don't have the same notion of "good" and "bad" like us. Fairies are not a part of the human world. For the fairy in the movie, the beast was just a little brat to her not a self concient person. Fairies are bitches when you offend them. Just look at maleficent from the sleeping beauty. I was not invited ? TRIGGERED
    What I've learned from sleeping beauty : even if fairies (life in my case) don't close yourself

  • Jesse Hampton
    Jesse Hampton Month ago +1

    Subscription complete. Love your videos and breakdowns

  • Alice Sterling
    Alice Sterling Month ago +1

    My response to the subscribers of the "Belle has Stockholm Syndrome" argument: "You keep using that term. I do not think it means what you think it means."

  • Fred Scalliet
    Fred Scalliet Month ago

    Probably your bestreview so far.

  • Gabrielle Forest
    Gabrielle Forest Month ago

    what about V for Vendetta. would you say thats shock home syndrome?

  • SapphireShawolRayne

    I mean I'm gonna kinda argue your clips of Mulan being shown in the whole "they state a want but then that gets thrown out the window for a man" thing, bc i personally don't think it fits... exactly.
    Mulan wanted to discover who she was and bring her family honor. Then she saved fucking China. Shang... just kinda happened. I guess a motivation for her during "I'll make a man out of you" bit was to prove herself to Shang as a competent warrior, rather than to gain his interest romantically. Yeah, she gets a guy, but she also accomplished her main goal of finding who she was and bringing honor to her family. Tbh if Shang didn't pop up on her doorstep at the end, she probably wouldn't even go back to get him.
    So yeah, she got a guy in the end, but that doesn't mean she accomplished her "i want" song, so to speak.
    But that's just what I think, I didn't go to school for this stuff like you did, I just like Disney movies...

  • Le Lucy
    Le Lucy Month ago

    #beastzoned

  • Nicholas Epsilon
    Nicholas Epsilon Month ago

    Belles story isn't Stockholm syndrome...
    Its the story of a good digger.. That hasn't realised she's a gold digger :P
    Poor beast.. She only wants you for your title.

  • Kathryn  Vincent
    Kathryn Vincent Month ago

    Beast.exe has failed to comply

  • James Belnap
    James Belnap Month ago +2

    I don't really care about Stockholm Syndrome, but their relationship is genuinely abusive at the beginning of the movie, and even after he mellows out he's still in a position of power over her all the way up until near the end. I get that she voluntarily agreed to be his prisoner, but that doesn't change the fact that SHE'S HIS PRISONER. It's about the furthest from a healthy power dynamic you can possibly get. It's possible that someone could grow to have a healthy and loving relationship from where they started (not likely, but it's possible), but I still think it's far too easy for someone to take the wrong lesson from this movie.

  • Dávid Kertész
    Dávid Kertész 2 months ago

    On your point around the 6 minute mark: what if she developed stockholm syndrome later? As you have said, she was there for only 5 hours.

  • Dávid Kertész
    Dávid Kertész 2 months ago

    Damn, I have to watch this again.

  • psammiad
    psammiad 2 months ago

    Stockholm Syndrome isn't an "illness" or pathology - it's a byproduct of the natural human instinct to bond with peers and groups, to cooperate for survival. Unfortunately it's easily used for coercive control. This is how abusive relationships develop.

  • Spencer Kennedy
    Spencer Kennedy 2 months ago

    Walt Disney was fkin twisted he's burning in hell as we speak

  • J Logan
    J Logan 2 months ago

    It's not Stockholm since ya know she ran away he saved her from wolves and she made the choice to not leave him to die then she yells right in his face about him controlling his temper then he gives her a library and they spend time getting to know each other learning each other they go on this cute little date and he ya know LETS HER GO and she comes back bc they are about to kill him
    What was a great story about characters finding love through each other's faults gets ruined by every edgy wannabe who has to be cynical. God for there's just some happiness to something

  • bbarrett726
    bbarrett726 2 months ago +1

    But Ariel is still a hoarder, right?

  • MachinaeZer0
    MachinaeZer0 2 months ago

    Man, I missed this video when I started playing catch-up on your channel... so freakin good. #BEASTZONEDDDDD

  • DragonmasterSK
    DragonmasterSK 2 months ago +1

    Wait... Belle is not a princess... Beast is a prince but he will become King so.... Belle is actually a ... O.O ....QUEEN!!!

  • Ile Wolf
    Ile Wolf 2 months ago

    I love Gaston...

  • Lockwie Lockwie
    Lockwie Lockwie 2 months ago

    I grew up with the French version and Belle's song makes much more sense with the story like she says she wants to fly in the blue of space (understand: be a dreamer, aspiring to something impossible, do it in her mind by reading books or imagining) she wants a friend who understands her and hundreds of books. Which she gets in the end (aside from going to space, which would make for an even better story: the castle was a spaceship all along and they fly to go explore the galaxy, a beauty and the beast's sequel).

  • firefox5926
    firefox5926 2 months ago

    6:13 also he says " anywhere you like but the west wing" he doesnt say anywhere in the castle but the westwing"

  • MICHAEL GOLD
    MICHAEL GOLD 2 months ago

    Lindsay is enchanting!

  • Patrick Frost
    Patrick Frost 2 months ago

    There is another aspect of character agency that you kinda brushed upon that I want to point out:
    A character with agency will make their own choices, but will also be confronted with the consequences of those actions, good or bad.
    In Beauty and the Beast, Belle makes mistakes. Going into the West Wing was a terrible idea, and the consequence of that is that she is yelled at. She then makes another mistake by running out the door in her fear during a snowstorm into a wolf infested forest, and then has to face the consequence of that action as well. Both actions hold very human aspects, the first being curiosity, and the second fear. These provide motivations that fell realistic and character driven.
    One thing that I notice when people talk about a character's agency, especially the female ones, is that there is that very few actions that a lot of modern characters have negative consequences, no matter if they are made from relatable drives or not.

  • DrOktobermensch
    DrOktobermensch 2 months ago

    >Belle is told that she needs to get married to be a happy woman
    >ends up marrying and becomes a happy woman
    Thanks Disney!

  • SaraJ86
    SaraJ86 2 months ago

    +

  • Zeluron
    Zeluron 2 months ago

    ITS FORBIDDEN!

  • Bluishred
    Bluishred 2 months ago

    Anyone else here from the comment section of the Game Theory video about peach having Stockholm's Syndrome?

  • Swallowtail Drake
    Swallowtail Drake 2 months ago

    I've honestly never gotten where people who say that are coming from, to be honest. Even if the Beast did kidnap her, she still managed to escape and could easily have left him in the snow to die. However, she went back to help him heal, and ended up falling in love with him that way.

  • Supernova Kasprzak
    Supernova Kasprzak 2 months ago

    Stockholm Syndrome is only absent from the DSM5 because many psychologists think it "falls under post-tramautic stress disorder" and was under consideration for the latest version of the manuel en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome#Diagnostic_and_Statistical_Manual_(DSM5,_2013) No psychologist has even hinted at it being "debunked pseudoscience". Perhaps there is more "research needed" (as you explained, it was discovered in 1973, pretty recently) but you mischaracterized this, I think deliberately.

  • Dead Inside
    Dead Inside 2 months ago

    Plot twist all I’ve learned is I want to rewatch beauty and the beast

  • The Badass Emu
    The Badass Emu 2 months ago +1

    I saw you close that tab!

  • Lyndi Wittmann
    Lyndi Wittmann 2 months ago

    Man, the eye animation in Disney films of the 90s did not age well.

  • David Szaks
    David Szaks 2 months ago

    But Belles father IS a "kidnappee" so when bell takes his place it's not just an agreement its a prisoner swap in which then Belle by definition is a prisoner. Even if Belle proposed the terms of the exchange (which she didn't) that wouldn't mean she isn't a prisoner or isn't being held against her will. And it is not until the Beast releases her, by telling her to get out, that she is able to engage in behaviors that assist in her release (which sort of harkins back to point 1). It's also implied that she had been in the castle for months considering the season change to winter mid blizzard.

  • Dogg Hunter
    Dogg Hunter 2 months ago

    psychologists don't debate the existence of stockholm syndrome not because we don't see it commonly but because it is very hard to determine the cause of the sympathetic attitude. i would argue that either saying this is or isn't stockholm would be hasty. we have no good way of testing what is or isn't stockholm gone are the glory days (cfi.FontFamily = FF_sarcastic;) of The Milgram Experiment or stanford Prison Experiment, we can't just capture 1000 diverse people and subject them to psychoanalysis to test the boundaries of how and why people empathise with their abusers. it does for sure happen what s debated is how and why and when people say it's about stockholm I believe they are just saying belle has no reason to develop a friendship or a romantic relationship with the beast. is that true I don't know i'm not belle and the story writers haven't let me into her head but it still could be stockholm

  • totlyepic
    totlyepic 2 months ago

    Why didn't you give Hercules the same generosity regarding the arcs of the main characters? I think there's a similar dual-protagonist growth it.

  • draganie
    draganie 2 months ago

    So I know this video is older now but I think the point of her wanting adventure then being okay with marrying is that for her this movie IS the adventure-it even matches pretty close to her favorite book of ‘far off places, daring sword fights, a prince in disguise!’

  • James Whelan
    James Whelan 2 months ago

    I'm sure she eventually uses Beasts money to visit Paris.

  • Activity A.M.
    Activity A.M. 2 months ago +1

    I think people who are trying to be edgy and theorize Disney movies into morbid or problematic tales used to really believe in true love and seeing the good in people but when they opened their eyes or when they turned 13 they found out that the world is an unforgiving place and they can't accept how the cartoons always featured happy endings so they theorize to fit it into the real world modern day interpretation.
    The interpretation that says the world is a cruel unforgiving place where every person works for himself and there is no such thing as a fairytale style love.

  • Fabricio Molina
    Fabricio Molina 2 months ago

    So, it's a story about stockholm symdrome then, I see.

  • Marshall Abbott
    Marshall Abbott 3 months ago

    0:42 wasn't UP nominated for best picture in 2009?

  • waltherchemnitz
    waltherchemnitz 3 months ago

    Belle’s character is a “flat arc” character. She doesn’t believe a lie, and she’s not on a downward spiral, but she does live in a world that believes a lot of lies. She’s the impact character that, because she believes the truth, can change the world around her.
    At least that how I see it.

  • Bea H.
    Bea H. 3 months ago

    TheXvid recommends so many of your videos to me, I no longer know what to do. At first, I just didn't watch them because they didn't seem like the kind of thing that would interest me but I eventually decided to, if only so they would go away. And yes, I'm aware of the 'Not Interested' button, it doesn't do anything.
    This is the third video I watched because they keep appearing in my recommended, even after I clicked the 'Not interested' option in about five others. I didn't like any of them. I don't like the style and I don't like most of the arguments you make. I'm the kind of person that doesn't feel comfortable giving a verdict until I have a lot of information so I made a point of watching each one till the end and watching each one without the other videos in mind. It didn't help. These aren't for me.
    The part that most frustrates me is that I agree with the point you're trying to make, most of the time. But I dislike the way you go about it and the arguments you use to get there. Which doesn't necessarily mean you're doing it wrong. It just means what I like isn't this and it's really annoying that TheXvid keeps throwing something I don't care for in my face.
    Does anyone know how to make this channel no longer appear in my recommended?

  • kudzita
    kudzita 3 months ago

    I agree! Not really Stockholm syndrome. 100% an abuse-apologist narrative, though, so maybe don't celebrate quite yet.

  • Wang Wang
    Wang Wang 3 months ago

    Ok, I don't know about the original so... If the Beast already had a heart of gold, why is he a beast in the first place?

  • Rubén Sánchez
    Rubén Sánchez 3 months ago

    I've always thought that Belle's arc is about getting adventures out of her town (which... she does... the moment she gets into Beast's castle) AND "finding someone to understand" (The Beast).
    It may not be as solid as the Beast's, but I think it's a good one and I've always related to her in that sense somehow...
    The song from the musical, "A change in me" describes those feelings. It's not that "she gave up on her dreams" like some people claim, it's because she's already *living* them and that's beautiful and yeah I love it! lol

  • Raj Beats
    Raj Beats 3 months ago

    really dope work on this this track! id be down to work on a record with you

    • Asher R.
      Asher R. Month ago

      i think she has better tracks, but this one *is* pretty dope

  • Pop_1567
    Pop_1567 3 months ago

    Bell is the main character but she has a flat arc?

  • britipinojeff
    britipinojeff 3 months ago

    lol dude gives her a library and gets #Beastzoned

  • Brangoberry
    Brangoberry 3 months ago

    I dunno, you know... Disney movies, particularly the 80's and 90's ones, were always about love and happy endings. It's part of the genre, and I don't necessarily see anything terrible with that.

  • The book Wyrm
    The book Wyrm 3 months ago

    It has some points of Stockholm and so I can see how people can get that you’re right it’s so much more more

  • Vontos' Magic Murder Bag

    Right, it's not Stockholm Syndrome, but it is a classic cycle of abuse. Beast is an asshole to the woman in the prologue, an asshole to Maurice, a controlling asshole to Belle at first. He only starts being "nice" to Belle when his servants drop rose-related hints and he realizes he needs Belle for something. Then as soon as she breaks one of his rules, he flies into a rage and makes her leave. When he realizes he might lose her, he goes after her to get her back.
    When Belle leaves the second time, Beast becomes depressed and essentially suicidal, and as soon as he realizes he can get Belle back, he becomes violent. Granted, it's in self-defense, but it's still violence. I have no doubt that Beast and Belle developed genuine feelings for each other while they were together, but abusers and their victims usually have real feelings for each other too. Once the prince is married to Belle and has his princedom back, I have little doubt he'll take advantage of his increased power over her to go back to being controlling and violent. During the movie he never learns to stop being an abuser; he just learns to care for Belle.

  • TheBuenaventura93
    TheBuenaventura93 3 months ago

    You make it sound as if finding love is a bad message. But it really is not.

  • spideylover
    spideylover 3 months ago +1

    Yes it is. Deal with it.

  • Helena Stumpf Morelli
    Helena Stumpf Morelli 3 months ago

    I feel so much better after watching your video, especially after watching Pop Culture Detective's Abduction as Romance (the guy said horrible things about Batb!!!). I guess the flaw is that, in the end Belle ends up as a prince's wife, instead of seeing the world as she wanted... but, I guess that after 20 years stuck in the castle he should be as eager as Belle for going out and traveling a bit.

  • Megan K
    Megan K 3 months ago

    I actually woke up my dog laughing at #BEASTZONED

  • Hicknopunk
    Hicknopunk 3 months ago

    Have you ever read the book of it? It is about a father's love and how it gets the better of him. It is equally about a daughter's love for her father and how she chooses to suffer in his place. The beast in the story is from 10 to 12 years old. If you read it understanding this, his behavior suddenly makes a whole lot of sense. Afterall he is a cursed individual and a rich, spoiled brat.

  • Skeletorrential Downpour
    Skeletorrential Downpour 3 months ago +1

    considering the story was originally created as an allegory for arranged marriages, and how if you both work towards being an understanding and forgiving partner that you and your designated hubby might actually end up HAPPY together-

  • Lonkinella
    Lonkinella 3 months ago

    11:25 everyone always focus on that part of the song. and always forget the other part that for me is more important: "and for once it would be nice, to have someone understand, i want to much more than they have planned" She lives in a town where NO ONE UNDERSTAND HER. I mean she is practically being bullied by everyone in the town all the time. Everyone talking behind her back about how weird she is, looking bad at her... i imagine it must be hell to live like that. She wants a fucking friend! a fucking ANYBODY, someone who understand her and share SOMETHING with her. She is so alone! in every way! Of course she wants adventure, you know, to feel something. But i think that finally finding someone who you like and who likes you back, someone with whom you can share things with, is something very important, and i don't understand why people give so little credit to that.
    Everything she lived WAS an adventure. And why do people assume she can't have more adventures after that? this time with the Beast at her side? why do people think it's always one thing or the other?

  • Nonukez
    Nonukez 3 months ago

    Seems like Lindsay Ellis has Stockholm Syndrome for Disney...
    And anyone who replies negatively to this comment has Stockholm Syndrome to Lindsay Ellis.
    Trust me, I watched an episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia and skimmed through the Wikipedia page on Stockholm Syndrome, I'm supremely qualified.

    • Asher R.
      Asher R. Month ago

      how dare you disagree with supreme lord lindsay ellis reeee

  • Mordaedil
    Mordaedil 4 months ago +1

    I thought Stockholm Syndrome was just an example of a behavior, not a psychological disorder. Because that'd be really weird for 4 people to have it at the same time.

  • sandra sofia
    sandra sofia 4 months ago

    I like you

  • Max Nyström
    Max Nyström 4 months ago

    Or sometime i can tell apart linsey from Jennifer blommor from roach koach

  • Lexi Eldridge
    Lexi Eldridge 4 months ago +2

    Every time I talk about this movie my sister tries to convince me to stop supporting it because of this reason. I tried to show her the video a few minutes ago and as soon as you mentioned Belle not having Stockholm Syndrome she walked out and claimed this was all lies. I'm so mad lmao

  • FantaZY
    FantaZY 4 months ago +4

    The thing that most people miss is....
    He didn’t even kidnap her or seeked her and kept her in the dungeon...
    Like did they not watch the movie? Or did they miss the entire plot of the movie and the entire point?
    Even Disney seems to forget that; in Wreck-it Ralph 2 when the princesses asks Venelope to confirm if she’s a princess or not, each gets to ask a question that sort highlights their story, with Rapunzel I get it, she was kidnapped and enslaved, but why Belle asks that too?!
    She wasn’t kidnapped nor enslaved.