LUCID AIR vs PLAID * 1,111 HP Lucid Air Dream Edition vs Tesla Plaid 1/4 Mile Drag and Roll Races

When I'm parting with a large amount of cash, I want good customer service. That's what putting me off Tesla atm

For the design lucid 🇺🇸

hennessey venom

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Lucid high quality car tesla interior is cheap like Ford sedan

@TecnamTwin still electric cars are afwully heavy.For example a modern day sedan would weigh about 4000 lbs

Just imagine the performance of purpose built electric dragsters.

@LgShai no not really most exotic car companies don't focus on emissions. The key part that's holding production cars back is to get them regulation/consumer ready. They need to have all the tech and safety features while still being reliable. This applies to electrics too. Ford's mustang cobra jet is a 1400 HP electric dragster (not street legal) & does the quarter mile in the high 7s

It’s because gas deletes too fast. Companies focus on the fuel ratings and emissions inspections and stuff, otherwise gas cars would be like 2x faster than they are rn, but gas weight & usage hold them back

@TecnamTwin somehow the lucid handles better though

I recently saw a lucid air dream here in the richer parts of Colorado, looked cool as shit

@Little Jackalo Just because you said that, I'll backup my statement. There are 52 weeks in a year. We are literally two(or 3) days out of the same month that CCIV was formed, technically not even 13 months by date...
56 weeks ago CCIV was not in existence. I believe it was January 10th 2021 when CCIV first was available for purchase. Does that seem anywhere remotely close to 2 years, or acouple of years?
52 weeks ago there were articles still coming out talking about that cciv may not be a Lucid merger. I bet you werent around for the DirectTV talks...... Does it still seem like acouple of years ago?
sometimes timelines do matter.
In acouple of years, LCID could be worth a lot of money. More specifically, I mean 2024+; not march 2023...........

@J. Church is it that hard to realize that "a couple years ago" can easily be mistaken for over a year ago? LOL. 2 years isn't that far off of over a year.

@Biplab Kumar Ghosh I have no clue. It was a random search.

Yes, on the first race, the Tesla got out of the start a fraction of a second faster. Also, am I the only one that noticed the Lucid's tires seemed to have no grip? On the first race especially, it spun out a bit before finally getting some traction. Between that and the quicker reaction time, it had no chance. I know nothing about drag racing. Don't drivers prepare their wheels by making them stickier somehow so that they grip the road better? As you said, it seems the Tesla is still faster and let's be honest, this is all just for bragging rights and the Lucid will beat 99.999% of the cars out there, but I'm just curious.

How about this, let's take out the drivers and let cars drag themselves and show you that EVs require now no skill or brain to go fast

@Kyle Federico I am not going to deny that they have some beautiful cars, but building them by hand is not a way to attract customers, if we add that they do not have infrastructure or maintenance for their customers, in short, they are only buying a dream where several have not yet woken up .
PS: a thousand times tesla, not for what it offers today but tomorrow.

@Desso it’s TFL ! I don’t know how to send it to you but look up TFL Shelby versus TRX ! I’m a Ford guy to but l had to get over it and so will you ! Maybe the 2023 Raptor V8(?) will do better !

@Johny Bravo those are top of the line models, not base models. But, their base models are super car-quick too, taking just 3 sec to 60.

And American lol

And base production family sedans..

@John Stoddard 😂. That's true though! But noise makes it fun!

While it's clear the Tesla is faster, I think two things held the Lucid back.
1. In the first race, the Tesla driver got off the line a fraction of a second faster.
2. It seems as though the Lucid had issues with tire grip. In the first race, it peeled out a bit
As I mentioned in another post, I know nothing about drag racing, but I seem to remember sometimes tracks being especially prepared so that they're stickier? I'm not sure if I'm making that up. But It's clear the two things I mentioned above would have helped the Lucid obtain a better time.

3way battle Taycan, lucid, Plaid
Race 1cheatah mode enabled
Plaid launches when the person has his arms halfway down.
5 frames later the lucid reacts
9 frames later the Taycan driver
All 3 jumped the start.
Same story for Race 2. Tesla driver with cheatah enabled, jumps the start with the guys arms halfway down.
Again 5 frames later the lucid and roughly 8 to 10 frames later for the Taycan driver.
Over 400HP difference, not bad for the best looking, highly overpriced, Porsche Taycan.

Just watched his Taycan vs lucid and noticed how slow his first race against the Lucid was.
Watch it from the inside with the visuals, graphics (dragy). The person had his arms behind like a skijumper at the Olympics, yet it took him a whooping 21 frames to react, to start. Was he asleep?
Then watch race 2 against the Lucid driver, where the lucid driver seems to have died. Stop at 00:05:11 and go frame by frame.
It took the lucid driver close to 30 frames to react. Slow the video down 0.5x, much easier.
Why have only 3 races with the Taycan, but do 4 with the plaid?
The Hayabusa driver does a 9.35 vs 9.39 Tesla and because he red lighted, he lost the battle. Ok.
I remember now why I had the channel blocked.

@It burns when i pvp very good observation. I also think that on race 1, Tesla jumped the gun and had a head start.

Even though he multiple times claims not to have used "cheatah" mode, you can clearly see that's not true in 2 out of 4 instances.
Race 1, Race 3
The car is lowered and the display changes to the "hyperdrive" graphics. The car was "prewarmed" ... there's even a cut before race 3, because it takes a shit long time to pre-warm the battery.
You can see the car prewarmed (high), after the cut (down).
Race 1 "cheatah Mode" enabled
Jump Start by 20 frames (Tesla driver, close to "0.3s headstart")
Stop at 00:04:47 and go frame by frame ... speaking of a typical Tesla rollout start. What a jump start...
Race one does not count, due the mighty headstart. He accelerated when the person still had his arms up.. (well half way).
Race 2 "cheatah Mode" disabled
Lucid wins
Race 3 "cheatah Mode" enabled
Tesla S wins (no jump start, lucid with a slow reaction time)
Race 4 is useless, ain't no drag Race imho. So without race 4, it's a tie. With it the plaid wins 2:1.

@Juiced_mz3 depends on the area of L.A. silly.

If you are in a wheelchair, Lucid is the worst. Rear trunk is wide, but very short opening. Tesla Model X is the best.

@Tre'von Cowen Fit me fine. Drive an S and you will love it. Havent been able to say that about a car in a long time. Just fun every time I drive and it is fast. Off the line you are not even aware you are moving so quickly. I will say this though. The older ones are not cars you take a long trip in. The Plaid will charge up in 38 minutes which isnt bad but it has to be matched to a new hot charger. Five years from now its all over. Charge in 20 minutes and chargers all over. That is the end of the IC car. Thank God.
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@Shepard Smith I think the Tesla looks like a basic shoe 👟 🤷🏾‍♂️

@Shepard Smith The bitterness is so strong.

Model 2,lol,

Ashton, agree to that. Tesla seems to have reached a standstill, not much development.
Imo the EV brand that is leading the way, is Hyundai including Kia and Genesis

@M4D AL3X Yeah. Tesla's struggling to produce enough model 3's and Y's so if they started making the model 2 they will overall sell less cars which means more C02 emissions.

Lmao electric cars were a thing before elon.

Tesla has created a one trick pony. It accelerates quickly and sucks at everything else. Tesla is only focused on pumping out new cars and ensuring that cars that they've sold go into the scrap heap as quickly as possible. They have next to zero support for their cars currently on the road. They haven't made any spare parts and Haven made service centers. So when you get on an accident that would be $3500 in any other car, it'll cost you 3-7x as much as that to fix your Tesla. Because of the lack of spare parts Tesla makes available to their 1st party repair facilities, and because they don't have people to fix your car. So you end up waiting 6-12 weeks to get your car repaired. Since your insurance company doesn't want to pay the high prices to repair the car, plus a 9 well rental car, they declare it a total loss. Then the loser that bought it goes out and buys another one. That's Tesla's game. Don't make parts, don't build and staff repair facilities, make sure your car is totaled, and sell you a new one. 85% of Tesla don't make it to the point of being green. A Tesla needs to be on the road for 7ish years before the reduced emissions offsets the production of the car. They're just good for TheXvidrs to do acceleration reaction videos and for the housewives that drive them to use the fart button. Anything beyond that, and they fall well below average.

Maybe the outside of lucid looks better but the inside of the Tesla is way better imo

What do you like about the Lucid design better?

Wouldn't really say that for a car that has been in development for over 10 years with seemingly endless supply of money from Saudi Arabia and China.

Chetah mode only saves like .1 seconds, the plaid has dedicated pumps for the cheetah mode to be quicker, so it may be very slow if done by update on lucid. The model X plaid that weigh 5400lbs gets 9.7 1/4 mile (with chetah), but it has more air drag as well still being 100HP less than the dream edition, lucid has 180lbs more in cell weight, but the plaid also has 2 fsd computers, and MCU with GPU all routed to cooling lines, larger heat exchanger, a suspension/drive train made for longer endurance track racing than the lucid, and an extra motor, lucids efficiency mainly comes from better road tires than the plaid, but these tires also hurt its 0-60 times and track capabilities.

Exactly 👍🏼

@Chronos_16 This is true, but the brakes are overall significantly better than the stock ones.

@Dom Read The fact they are ceramic doesn‘t mean they break well. Only the consistence is going to be better

Tesla has already unveiled carbon ceramics for the Plaid, but they're not coming out till later this year. They're also expensive asf

I noticed that also.

Also, the Tesla driver jumped at least once during those races

@Adii When my daughter asks me the definition of salty, I'll point her to your comment. I guess 400 miles of range (with a much smaller battery, mind you) is bad in your book (smh).

Bro who cares it’s a luxury sedan like can you imagine bring a maybach to race a 765Lt

@Matthew Simmons tesla probably had 5miles of range left so owner needed to get home

@Nigel Mutepfa 1.9 60ft pretty damn slow from the start too my model 3 non performance does that, my guess is they were sandbagging that race for some reason or another.

​ "Tesla Model S Plaid is now the world's fastest production vehicle: Car sets record breaking EIGHT SECOND quarter mile run at Maryland International Raceway." "The lap time is seven seconds quicker than the Porsche Taycan Turbo, which had held the electric production car record since 2019. The Plaid is the quickest, most powerful version of the Model S electric sedan. It has a new three-motor drivetrain producing over 1,000 horsepower." -FORBES

@Sten Nordenmalm "Tesla Model S Plaid is now the world's fastest production vehicle: Car sets record breaking EIGHT SECOND quarter mile run at Maryland International Raceway." -Daily Mail, UK.

Daniel (and other Tesla fans here) Here are some facts for you, yeah they will do hurt...
The Tesla Plaid is not a slow car, it is a very slow car.
Top speed of 160 mh?? That is in Golf Gti territory.
And all this screaming about quickest ever lap time around The Ring?
Compared to other standard production cars, the Plaid is number....
68.
Beated by almost one whole minute by a Porsche. Sorry but that is a coffee break.
Of course it accelerate quickly from a standstill in a straight line, put 1100 hp in any AWD car and see what happens

@A Todaso I bet. I’m sure they love having to takeout a second mortgage to pay for repairs on that S-Class.

already done with the plaid atleast by Uptown Autosport and it got 1101hp:)

The only reasonable priced ice car would be the turbo s and I think the lucid would beat it

He is professional and a good at what he does.

alizcool1 EXACTLY!! 😂

They ignored him until they saw their lucid get it's ass handed back to it. Then all of a sudden they got in touch

@Bruce Li , are you trying to say the DT guy and peak prosperity are the same?!?

Launch mode on a Tesla (Ludicrous Plus Mode)... If I am not mistaken, takes several minutes to heat the batteries? Tesla recommends not using this mode due to wear and tear on the motors and batteries. No one would drive around like that. Maybe someone else can pile on her that has better information?

@John Shera Its completely fair. They're both 4 door sedans. Both are electric. Both are premium cars. Both are the highest hp performance versions of their model.
Only people that dont know anything about performance, cars or classes would say something like this. You think a Dodge Challenger 392 Scatpack isnt a fair comparison to a Mustang 5.0 GT because it weighs 800 lbs more? Or a Camaro SS isnt a fair comparison to a Mustang GT 5.0 because the Mustang weighs roughly 50 to 100 lbs more depending on trim levels between the two cars? That's an utterly ridiculous argument. People still compare those cars, because they are all in the same class, built to appeal to the same group of people.
No two cars weigh the same even between their own models due to options that add and take away weight. That's just a cry baby excuse. This is no different in this comparison. It doesnt get anymore fair of a comparison between these two cars, because they are direct competitors. I'm not a Tesla fanboy. I'm a car guy who cares about facts. In this case, the Tesla is just place quicker and faster. That's a fact. Saying "Ohhhh well it's not fair, because the Lucid weighs more!" Is just a whiny little kid on the playground argument. Accept the results and stop making excuses.

Well, it's not a win for either. Lucid cars weigh more than Tesla's. So its not a fair comparison to begin with

@Pipe It Up
And what would that get me?
Why don't you, and all the other rabid vapid fanboys, accept that the Tesla won 3 races and the Lucid won ONE race (a conceit I have had from the start of this mess and will NOT change). But that would require you to be actually mature about this whole affair., wouldn't it?

@Pipe It Up I dunno. That dude has bankrupt arguments. Keeps making bs claims. Says the Lucid doesnt have launch control, but it does. It has three modes....smooth, swift and sprint. There is no arguing with stupid.

@Lord Malice You have been talking about how much you like the Lucid in several posts. How would FSD be more dangerous than driving yourself, because other drivers are bad? It is literally there for that reason. It has prevented countless accidents already, because of other horrible drivers. Sandy Monroe just said it saved him from rear ending a car that was stopped in the middle of a dirt road, just before he started to tear down the Plaid. I'm personally waiting for the Cybertruck. The 4680 cells are supposed to be good for over a million miles with less than 10% degradation and it has a stainless steel exoskeleton that will never rust, not to mention by far the best specs and charging infostructure. Other drivers should be afraid to hit the thing, it's a tank and it would most likely be the last vehicle I will ever buy. There would be no eletric vehicles without Tesla and EV's are way better than ICE. It should be impossible to like EV'S and not Tesla, unless you are determined to be a hater.

@Doug Diamond Dude I'm not talking about a Lucid I'm talking about a Tesla driving autonomously with regular cars! How is that hating on Tesla?! How is saying you have to watch your ass driving a Tesla because most people won't be driving one is hating on Tesla? Those are facts, most people is not driving a $100k car! You sound like a Tesla fanboy!

@Lord Malice Every Tesla is cheaper than a Lucid, but haters are gonna hate.

@Doug Diamond Yeah everybody can't afford a Tesla, and some don't even want one! So that means there will be more people not driving like you!

@Lord Malice that is exactly why they are making it, too many idiot drivers.

*wheels

Cool, like wagon wheels in old cowboy films .

@# photohoag In a nerd gathering, he is slaying...

@IndustrialDb Well obviously. And it doesn't even have to be rotation. Movements of any kind that has a dominant frequency can have sample aliasing and harmonics.

I agree that was mesmerizing! Design looks neat spinning up again too.

The lucid dashboard is more impressive.

@ßaron “Saudis” sir the pif is backed by individual contributors investing in the Saudi fund much like how an ETF operates

@Mark Plott the model s has been the same design as well wtf is your point ☠️

Yea race 1 the whole Tesla was in motion before the Lucid's tires even moved at all

Yep looks like one vehicle got excited and started before the other.

@Ian billgates you do understands that racing either car voids their guarantees? How can they tell they were racing? They both have real time collection of performance data. Disconnect the performance collection and the warranty is automatically voided. Good try though.

@SavageDad I don’t mind it, and some of it has to do with squeezing out the most aero they can to make the range better.

@KR Delux the plaids brakes can’t keep up with it, and the once they burn up you have to deal with Tesla and the abysmal customer service.

@Most Neuter but they can do that and have 500 mile ranges, cause they have better motors then Tesla and can fit more batteries

And that’s with only 2 motors

They have been designing this car as long as tesla has been making the model S, difrence is that the plaid can be taken to a track, 1/4 mile is very easy for a EV to do as it only requires a large battery to put down over 1000HP, the much harder part is keeping it cool to keep using the 1000HP.

It makes sense the plaid is cheaper. It isn't a true luxury car. It's just a faster Tesla... which in itself it's luxurious at all. The Lucid however is meant to rival cars such as the EQ

@HUM C lucid build quality is just as bad as Tesla's. Even their press cars had creaky interior panels. Imagine how bad the production models will be.

@Ericship8 they are the same car and the plaid is definitely faster what u smoking

@Seqqsy Thats what im saying... tesla literally looks like a bug. Lucid looks cool. Alot of people in these comments are forgetting that the Lucid is a LUXURY car as well

@YYpang All opinions. The S is boring as hell now ... tesla need a design refresh ... I remember loving the S when it first came out and thinking it might age like fine wine .... but no, just boring now ... they need gently refresh and update like porsche with the 911 ... porsche know what their doing, tesla don't yet.

@JM……eggzzactly! An Lucid isn’t focused on drag racing for now

But still though it's way more beautiful, inside and out.

Because it's much heavier

What?

Ladies and gentlemen of the comments section, we've ourselves a handful of Eagle eyed tesla fanboys and girls in youtube

@Ericship8 oh lmao

@Devyash Jangid he doesn’t own a car the actual plaid that did 8.9 secs wasn’t stock and went 155 mph not 175 mph the guy is a kid

@Ericship8 prolly, maybe he removed seats and stuff to reduce weight but then it won't matter cause traction limits the power till 70mph so it would actually run slower lol

@Devyash Jangid under 9s ain’t stock clearly he’s a troll

The plaid is programmed to apply full power after 60mph, same as the lucid, it's just that the teslas motors are more efficient at higher speeds than the lucid.

You really Ctrl-C + Ctrl-V ed the original comment lol

I'd love to see that over a 500 lap race with pits for refuelling/charging.

@lowstrife If it was an under-braked car it would not pass safety regulation. Can it use better brakes for it performance, yes but it only as dangerous as you plan to take risks.

I think a more appropriate word is dangerous, but sure, we can use hilarious too.
Cause yeah let's sell an under-braked car that's one of the fastest production cars in the world to drivers who have minimal experience driving any kind of fast vehicle. Are people just gonna fucking SEND these things off of cliffs and shit? Yeah, they have done.

i hate it i have hennessey

You're the real MVP man.

thank you sir

🔥🔥🔥

And how would McLaren catch a tesla roadster exactly?

Driving with Tesla in such driving behavior would also suck out it's battery extremely quick. As far as range and comfort goes I'd lean more towards Lucid, besides I think this is not really a good comparison, Its like comparing a luxury car with a more sports equipped car... The only thing that Tesla does better it accelerated extremely fast but later you see speed stabilize on both and they start driving same distance apart

Except the lucid costs 50k more

Yep, refrigerators that make gas engines look anemic. Not everyone wants noise for no performance lol

Model X plaid weighs more than the lucid, same power as the plaid, gets 9.7 on the 1/4. Tesla has a more efficient power train lucid has more efficient tires despite lucid trying to say otherwise.