Shamima Begum: 'I'm not that stupid 15-year-old girl that left' | Times News
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- Published on Feb 19, 2019
- Shamima Begum, one of the Bethnal Green girls who fled to Syria in 2014, describes how she changed during her time in the country.
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"I met my husband. I would never have met someone like him in the UK" - I think that shows her underlying attitude to the UK.
Notice, she is still in the type of outfit. She can’t even try to dress differently. She will always be a Rebel Woman. Young. Beautiful, and stupid. Stay in the camp. You are getting better treatment than your husband ever did.
I read a paper on radicalization that said that most people from europe that are radicalized are from lower socioeconomic backgrounds. The men she was exposed to in the UK probably weren't the greatest. I can definitely understand that she was unhappy I actually really feel bad for her but her family did her some kind of disservice idk what it was. Could simply be that she needed psychological help and they didnt give it to her. This is isnt an issue of an evil human but a bi-product of poverty and alienation. I actually do think the muslim community needs to work with the government to prevent this happening again.
Calling her child "IT" is enough proof that this beast is a risk to the national security
Her child wasn’t born yet so she didn’t know the gender. When people don’t know the gender of the baby. The baby is referred to as ‘it’.
I agree. Flummoxed when she referred to her child as ‘it’. Shamima is not sorry
Definitely.. they are not coming back to live normal life.. she can kill a lot of people ((
It was your decision, now face the consequences. Im Muslim and I'm happy with the decision. Please don't come back and make our lives difficult.
@Flame Zodiacnot really...we hate the people who think women who cover themselves are automatically terrorists...if that's reasonable to you?
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@Matt Smith It's not just this person. There's so many of us who would say No way to her ever setting foot on British soil. She made her bed and now she must lie in it. She gave up all the provisions this country gave to her and she wants to return? I don't flipping think so.
Also her not being allowed to return makes her an example for all those idiots who think they can go join a terrorist organisation and then come back to their respective countries.
There is very little sympathy for this woman in the UK...... She has shown no remorse for her actions, and has gone on to say she does not regret joining Isis. All her statements are self centred, and she has all but demanded that British people should feel sympathy for what she has gone through. She should take time to remember that everything that has happened to her is down to her own choices... the children killed in the Manchester Arena attack on the other hand, had no choice in their fate. I'm judging her not on what she did when she was 15, but on how she has presented herself today, and on that basis there is no place for her in the UK other than behind bars.
@John Daniel No one has sympathy for her bro and l agree actually she should go and live in pakistan.
@John Daniel John. have you actually read either of my comments?..... I clearly have no sympathy for her.
Andy.... Why doesn't she go for any muslim country...there are 57 Muslim countries...she must go there..... And if you have sympathy for her ...go with her...
She shows no regret for her actions
I only feel sorry for her child...who will grow up thinking what his mother & father believe is ok to kill innocent people...
Oh yeah yeah Trust someone who thinks “oh yeah yeah” is funny to say something like that.
@Sam Philbrick I don't know. I do know it's been reported she has now given birth.
At 15 she should've known better. By that time she should've DEFINITELY matured and understood the dangers of extremism. Your decision, Begum. Your decision, not ours.
One can be a good person and still be seduced by extremism.
JimboParadox Seems like a self projection to me.
At 15 you are old enough to hang for treason.
Online Friend totally agree with you. Moreover she shows no remorse
The Jim Reaper™ I think you are too emotional on the subject and it’s clouding your ability to have a rational argument. Best of luck in the future.
“I wouldn’t have met a man like my husband back in the U.K” well no shit babe
@Carlos E Well in all countries.
@Diana Mincher but it wouldn’t be me because I knew the difference between right from wrong/ evil and bad even as a child
Playing hard and fast with Shamima when it could have been you!
Yes. There are many Muslims in the UK. Many are fundamentalists. Don't lose your hope
I’m thankful to Shemima Be-gone - she has single handedly united the British public again since the 2012 Olympics. Thank you, Shemima Be-gone.
Parliament did something right for one and revoked her citizenship
Parliament didn't the dual national Muslim Sajid Javid stripped her citizenship before getting a court order-how grossly negligent can the Muslim be?
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@dave erwin compassion is a two-way street do you think she's got any for us? I think not!
But parliament need to stick to the decision of keeping this woman and her baby out of U K
@Personal Jesus
_"It’s Britain not France we don’t do revolutions, too passive"_
Eh? We chopped the head off a king who thought we were too "passive".
The say she refers to her child as "it" pretty much sums her up.
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Yes, I was taken aback. Human life is cheap in Islamic State.
@Weeble Wobble my baby or child?
Yep I noticed that.... not my son, "give it to my family," instead of give him to my family..
She is so detached and delusional about it all
@Shel Sparkle Three actually, her newest kid also died.
‘If in doubt,
Keep em’ out.’
- wise words from a wise man
OmsoiTekken well look how that came to be, Come Fly With Me has now been removed off of anything but TheXvid but even then you still have to pay to watch it on TheXvid
Ian Foot, UK's greatest security force.
There is a big difference between a mistake and a choice.
@Dafydd yeah we know that
You are correct. But let the baby back and go for adoption with a complete deletion of who her fucking mom, father and family in the UK are. At least the child would have a chance that way.
I agree that she should not be allowed back in the UK, but that statement is stupid
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She refers to her child as "it", doesn't seem very motherly
meow
Using him for sympathy
@Sabina Ullah ????
Sounds as if she were passed around from man to man. That is why she doesn't care for the child.
IT hasn't squirmed or screamed.. I find IT alarming...is IT alive ????????
“I would never have found someone like him back in the UK.”
That’s the goal innit?
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I'm fed up of seeing her on my phone and TV. Doesn't deserve the attention
It’s all a distraction
Cameron Carter
I read the comments with my thumb over her face. It's very distracting.
@starchild got the video come up on my recommendations tho didn't I?
starchild yeh he did. And she doesn’t. Your point ?
You made your bed, now sleep in it
EDIT: I'm so glad that people agree with me by liking. this shouldn't be debated about it's pretty clear.
@TP VLOGS 💯 it’s definitely not about race; a 15 year old has the sense to make a sound judgment.
True!
THESE kinda ppl are not welcome!
How do they even ask to come back like wtf "you made your choice"
@Nabeel Khan it’s not about the colour of her skin it’s about what she did and her intentions. She knew what she was doing was very wrong and took the risks. A mistake a 15 is being caught smoking or drinking alcohol not joining ISIS even non white people would agree with me so don’t make it about race 🙄
You’re criminally responsible when you’re 10. You know what you’re doing when you’re 15. I can’t believe there’s people who support her.
What an ignorant, arrogant and lack of empathy human being! She doesnt feel sorry at all.
The only way I’d accept her coming back is if we still had the death penalty.
Bloody amazing
you mean if she was in a cardboard box and we all sat around the box and watch it burn while we pay respects to the people who have died in this country and across the world to her beliefs.
You’re bloody amazing.
Keiron Guwop or she will just blow herself up in a shopping center or something
Love how she talks about her child as “it” almost like she has no connection to the baby
I’m a Muslim from London and even I agree that she shouldn’t come back. What possessed her to go out of her way to join IS. Like is she crazy! She had everything she needed in the UK but still chose to go to the IS-
Imagine letting her back in the country....only for the tax payer to basically fund the rest of her and her children's lives. Yeah, no thanks.
Jeremy Corbyn wanted her back. He believed that she should be entitled to legal aid, when the families of the people who were killed in that Manchester Arena attack (the one she somehow thought was justified!), aren't getting a penny. That's why I will never vote for him!
It would be much safer for your country, to house n take care of a homeless person than to let her back into your country.
I'm from Bangladesh myself and I feel no remorse for her, she should be deported back to the IS. It was her decision, not anyone else's.
TheBOY875 agreed and well said
Exactly.
yeah, I don't think you in Bangladesh need to accomodate her either.
I feel like her parents had something to do with it... I mean, to want to join IS in the first place, she’d have to grow up with that kind of mind to make that decision. Her father did not apologise for his daughter’s behaviour on interviews, he only spoke about getting her to return. The girl has been brainwashed.
Something’s off here...
Her parents probably support ISIS. Most Muslim parents warn their kids about terrorists groups and those who might radicalise you. I bet her parents didn’t.
Ava Carre my same thoughts too. There was a seed there .
The whole family should be punished, or at least investigated
Glad to see so many people united on this matter :-)
“Stressful situation”??
Wow..can’t imagine the horrible..gut wrenching situations her “ husband “ and herself put innocent people through..
Begum - I'm not that stupid.
Me - *Erm, yes you are.*
Why is that all the interviewers keep worrying about the human rights of terrorists who show no mercy towards their victims ? Stop using media platforms for their benefits .
She calls her child 'it'. Sums it all up for me.
@ChuksK look at the baby's parts, the baby is always realeasing Bodily fluids, of course she knows what gender her baby is, shes just inhumane
@Laura McKinlay my child. I would refer it as my child... My unborn child.. Not 'it'.
My mother didn't know my gender and she never called me it when she was pregnant of me. She called me her child, her love..
I asked about it so that is why I know
@midz nope? I can see it still
@ChuksK - The child might not even be hers, I doubt it.
@Calum O Did you delete it ? It's vanished.
"More than happy to do with me what they want..."
That doesn't sound like she learned anything from all this.
"I am really please that i met you" YE MAN SHE JUST FUCKING DONE SOMETHING SO GREAT! I AM DEAD 😂
In the eyes of the prejudger!
When I was 15, Never once did it cross my mind to join a terrorist organisation. In my opinion she made an almost unforgivable mistake. In my opinion it’d be best to take the child in and decline her citizenship as a UK citizen.
Jim Knight “Child of a terrorist” Bro it’s not like the child is a threat to national security and is about to blow up a place. Hell the baby doesn’t even have agency, as a punishment I don’t think she should have any contact with the child. She also deserves to be out the Uk, lets see how long she’s gonna survive
George Thomas She won’t be stateless, she has dual nationality. She can go live her life in Bangladesh while her child is sent away to live with her parents in the UK.
AwwwhYyyyeah They have to be a UK citizen, there’s no other nationality they can legally take. Unless Bangladesh wants in.
Any that leave the UK to join IS should never be allowed back in and have the passport removed. If they allow these people back into the UK is like back stabbing all the people that have died fighting this. If she gets into the UK, then kid(s) should not be allowed in as they are not UK citizens.
"As long as i can settle down comfortably" - what about caring for the country and the terrorist acts that she was a part of instead? What about caring for comfort for those who instead were killed in terrorist acts that she was an indirect part of?
Perhaps if she didn’t say she had no regrets things would be different, but no, she has no issues with seeing heads in bins etc
When talking of Britain and British she always uses the term “They”. It speaks a lot!
This is to let other young teenagers learn the lesson of no second chance giving if they made mistake first time. So she deserves this punishment. Lol!
“I’m more than happy to do what they want me to do” then stay where you are that’s where we want you
In another inteview she says one of the reasons she joined ISIS was because of the "Good Life"they could provide.
Sounds like she was lazy and thought she could get a free ride and have no responsibilities by joining ISIS.
Now she wants to come back and have a free ride with our welfare system.
She has not learnt from her ways or the mistake, she is still radicalised and has not denounced ISIS and deep in her heart she holds remorse for the west.
Look at her facial expressions and her answers in interviews. She answers what she knows people want to hear, not how she feels, that's why she has no emotion.
@Hi what I meant was she uses her son to try to draw sympathy, she's trying to play the victim card.
Except she doesn't give the answers most UK people want to hear & shame on the BBC etc for trying to portray her sympathetically.
She has not made a public genuine act of contrition. Her lack of repentance makes her a destestable young woman
This Girl is a threat to uk security. My parents came to this country and worked hard to give me and my siblings a better life....even at 15 I had the logic to know that I could never consider shaming them in such a manner. Let her stay in Syria and deal with the consequences of her actions.
She started as a screw up at 15 and she still has no concept that her choices impact her Children futures. What a selfish woman.
"More than happy to get back and settle down more comfortably with my child" - what a freaking joke!
Radicalisation my arse! You made your choices, live with them!
Alexandra she is crazy honestly
She is learning a valuable life lesson, that decisions have responsibilities. If she didn't listen to her parents when she was that silly 15 yr old and made her choice, then she must bear the responsibility for the decision. End of.
Armed with a kid - it seems that this girl likes making decisions but wants to be let off the responsibility for her actions. Life says NO
he was really pleased to have met her. How lovely.
I can't see the problem in leaving someone 'stateless'.
She best not be getting ANY chance to come back
I agree with alot of people she chose to go so she can very well stay there. I actually believe some posts I've read saying it could be a very bad plot line set up for something really bad to happen and if it goes ahead that she comes back to the UK then our lives/country will be at a very big risk
I just listened to the first 2 seconds of this vid. She has such a bad attitude
Exactly! I can't even look at her face after what she did
@WANG SILANG Year_15 15 years old is more than old enough to know right from wrong. She hasn't changed at all, I bet anything she's lying to get people to turn a blind eye and it's disgraceful how people are sticking up for her.
Her bad attitude started when the betrayed this country lol
I know i had to turn the volume off i couldnt stand listening to her
No regrets
Because of your carelessness your kid died
And what about your husband
Sad what happened to her babies. Suspicious but very sad. I don’t feel she feels any remorse though. I don’t get that from her. Totally emotionless. She’s very weird.
That's why UK need strict vetting
Yeah, I agree with most comments and listening to her it doest seem coherent to move back to the UK in her personal circumstances. I feel she could easily persuade young/vulnerable adults join IS Especially younger teenage girls, dangerous. I am sure there is alot of lies told about camp but i am also sure its not a picnic to meet potential husbands. deep down she is begging to come back but she is too stubborn to admit to her mistakes and take ownership.... leave this one where she put herself
The fact she refers to the child as a “it” ... like wow
Saw another recent video of her. Clearly to date she still has no actual clue /wants to accept that her actions came with certain responsibilities which have resulted into her situation as it is now.
She even has no answer to a few of the questions she was asked by a journalist, only stating that 'she thought it was easy to come back to the UK'. Her family repeatedly have tried to get her back, she didn't want to go back, as admitted by herself. Now when the shit has hit the fan she all of a sudden wants to go back being all dramatic (ab)using the fact she now has a child.
Stay where you are love, you made yourself unwanted with your severly screwed up ideas, even to most fellow muslims.
about her child..."at least IT given to my family", speaks volumes...
I'm staggered that she expects to just walk back into the country...she is an enemy of the state and her citizenship should have been revoked when she left to go to Syria.
WTF she called her child IT !! Absolutely no way she should come back !!
Why isn’t she being asked “who indoctrinated you? Why did you leave? How do you feel about the UK” I think we know the answer to that - “by my father”
She then says
“I would never have found a man like my husband in the UK” seriously deluded.
This is like when you leave a group chat and you ask someone to add you back!
I’m glad everyone in the comments actually have some sense
I remember hearing about terrorism,specifically isis, when i was 11 and everyone in our school knew how bad extremism was. I know people change but by 15 she should have known better not to trust a group like that... I don't trust her at all back in this country, it seems she still has radicalised views.
The Times brags about being the one who found her in the refugee camp. I wouldn't be so quick to brag about trying to bring sympathy to a stupid girl who stood by and watched as crimes against humanity were committed to those who didn't follow their laws. Whilst people deserve fair trial, her lack of remorse and regret show she feels entitled to be somewhere at the expense of UK pop. It's not our fault she chose to join Daesh, and yet if she's brought back the UK tax payer has to fund her prison term and re-integration. Truly, we would have been happier if the Times 'journalist' didn't feel the need to act as her voice.And how dare he call it Dawlat, how dare he justify the name that Daesh called land they stole and murdered millions over!
The thing that is so frightening is the total lack of any real remorse. She is sorry that ISIS was defeated and that Raqqa fell, but not for her actions. She left the UK, joined a terrorist organization, gave them the money she took with her, married a terrorist fighter (who as far as we know may well still be alive somewhere) and by supporting him has effectively provided materiel support to a terrorist organization. She is as much an enemy combatant as he is. We'd be mad to let her come back - it sends a completely wrong message to other youngsters who may be harboring delusions of traveling to Syria.
Had she been allowed to come back IS would have used her as the first of many infiltrators.
Listening to her voice... it sad tho. It’s sad she sided with such cruel and wicked wicked people. Wow
In an interview she said she had seen severed heads in a bin, and it hadn't phased her. We don't need a person like that in this country.
Can you news outlets stop reporting on her like your bringing attention to someone that did something bad and can't accept the consequence
You guys never report on anything that actually matters
Like
Uighur camps
What's happening in syria
Coltan mine slavery
Ect...
"Can i ask what you think my fate is going to be?"
I'm from bangladesh and i prsonally think her fate should be death, not prison because she saw Muslims and non-Muslims beheaded plus i dont see any remorse in her voice
Your choices have consequences, you have to live with and face them.
Needs to be publicly executed for High Treason.
Shane Nephilim wtf , judging by my name what's that got to do with anything .
@saliha I am actually against executions. I was pointing out that is is not a thing we do in this country.
@Scooby McDooby His own possibly !
@Azureecosse Prophet Muhammad told Muslims to treat women and children fairly and equally. It's the only religion that set out fair rules to look after women at all times, divorce, death, remarriage etc. The West has a different view and thinks women are treated better.
She should not be let back, leave her where she is.
She is a damn sociopath.
Just think that there's people who fight and will do anything to come in the UK for a better life while this girl purposely left and is now trying to say she deserves to come back. She is getting what she deserves
The words traitor spring to mind, and she should be treated as such.
I just hope the baby is well it’s so sad what kids have to go through
At 15 she was learning to connect batteries and wires to a light bulb, at 19 she knows how to connect wires and batteries to fertilizer 😂
“She went from the land of milk and honey “🇬🇧” and now look at her, it ain’t so funny 😂.
She wanted to join a bunch of crazy cowards called IS... and now she's playing the victim card to the press! 😂
Shamima Begum please don't come, we don't need you, please continue your social work in syria..
stop trying to say you were just a child! when i was 15 i was a Sargent in the Air Training Corp. i knew how to carry out combat maneuver's, i was a marksman and i knew how to fly aircraft. i never felt the need to run off and join a terrorist group and neither did the men and women that were also in the Corp. you made your choice, now deal with it
Just remember: she joined IS and is now getting PAID to tell her story...
Book
When she comes back to uk,she will write a bool
Completely agree very dangerous to our home country uk.
Should not be allowed to come back will be a bigger treat to our national security.
If she didn't get paid she probably wouldn't even bother giving the press the time of day. At least with getting paid, she still can't stay in Britain
@Saira Naseem Sorry my omission = now corrected. PS I would actually really like to know the answer! Maybe they brought her some paper towels c/o The Donald!
"settle down more comfortably with my child" ... says it all , it is all about its own selfish wants. "especially with the stressful situation i will probably give birth soon", if it is 8 months pregnant , it poses no danger to give birth "soon". "i would never have met anyone as good as my husband in the u.k." ..... so ALL NEGATIVE HERE IN THE U.K. WHY ON EARTH DOES IT WANT TO COME BACK HERE. Cut the bloody apron strings for Gods' sake.
"i want IT given to my family".
Politicians advising to not let her in is their way of saying it’s not my fault when she IS allowed back in, which she will be.
It will happen as we are so soft on these traitors
Actions have consequences... some learn it the hard way...
I'm extremely happy with the decision and I'm Muslim. She has no remorse or regret and tbh she looks suspicious asf.
NO.! I'm sure there are many deserving people who wish to come to the UK, work and make a better life for themselves.
Her response is disterbing, it just seems that she has realised there is actually no future and is tired of living the hard life. This maybe the reason for her to come back. But I think she sees herself as someone good. I don't trust her
"I want all benefits but no responsibility"
Treat her as an example of what happens to people who leave to side with the enemy
There are more pressing issues in the UK ....Why is she even on the news ?
I agree Tbasko sauce if goverment says no , no means no .
The news need to get a grip of themselves , their like a broken record .
Its a distraction from brexit and the fact that Uk politics is a shower of shit
Because Mrs May has failed with brexit and wants a change of news media for the public.
Are you aware of why they're called terrorists?
"I'm not that stupid 15-year-old"
No you're now a stupid 19-year-old
Congratulations, you've grown.
"'I'm not that stupid 15-year-old girl that left"
What makes you think we care? Because you sure don't.
As it said "don't trust friends that hang out with the enemy" she hang out with the enemy
I am sure your family can join you where you are if they love you .
the fact that she refers to her own child as 'it' says a lot. in a different video after she had given birth she said that she named the new baby the same name as the 'old baby' which i found more than a little disturbing
Stay there, you did it to yourself
*in reference to her child* “I don’t want it to be taken away from me” first time I’ve heard a mother refer to their child as “it”
Calling her child "it"... Great, caring mum 👌
Sometimes things just feel right.
At 15 I was caught cheating on an important exam, not joining ISIS. To this day I express regret for it, but the way she speaks shows she has no regret for contributing to the death of innocent Muslims.
19 years old 3 kids, 2 dead.
What a great role model for future generations
Let's be real here her family were trying to get her to come home from the very beginning, this could have been put down to a teenage mistake instead she chose to stay and doesn't regret joining so sorry she is exactly where she deserves to be.