Is Gaming on Windows DEAD?? - WAN Show August 24, 2018

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    Timestamps courtesy of Jesse Ferguson
    0:03 - WAN Show won't be exclusively streamed on Twitch.
    3:57 - Discussion of Floatplane
    8:50 - Rundown on Topics
    9:17 - Intro
    9:35 - Linus vs. Austin Evans?
    11:30 - Discussion of Logan Paul vs. KSI
    13:39 - Upcoming DeepSpar video on LTT
    16:45 - Preorder of 9th Gen Intel CPUs appears on a Dutch website
    22:55 - Nvidia GeForce RTX cards released
    34:58 - Sponsor: Shade Tree Glasses
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    39:55 - Studio Lights go out
    42:27 - Russian arms manufacturer Kalashnikov takes on Electric Cars
    47:56 - Steam releases a new application for Linux to improve Windows Game compatibility
    51:21 - Who should Linus fight?
    53:37 - Outro
    Timestamps courtesy of JJMC89.
    00:16:50 - Intel 9th gen chips available for preorder on Dutch site
    00:23:11 - NVIDIA GeForce RTX
    00:35:03 - Sponsor: Shade Tree
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    00:42:37 - Kalashnikov CV-1
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Comments • 3 179

    VOLD GAMER Month ago

    pc gaming is dead, why you may ask? well here you go
    hackers and cheaters
    dead games
    having to own a 1000 dollar pc to get a good frame rate
    console gaming is way better (and this is coming from somebody who was a pc gamer)

  • BanicDurn
    BanicDurn 6 months ago

    head gear increases risk of injury... and has been banned by a number of amature boxing orginizations for this reason.

  • Shmu'el
    Shmu'el 6 months ago

    The first time I heard of the i9 was on aliexpress so I guessed it was some chinese crap and when I realised it was legit I lost faith in intel...

  • Dakota Lally
    Dakota Lally 6 months ago

    6:40 I'm so jealous! I don't know what I would do with that much bandwidth, but I know I want it!

  • Cathal Poon
    Cathal Poon 8 months ago

    The DeepSpar Video he mentioned

  • Dom Ex
    Dom Ex 8 months ago

    History point , serious injuries and fatalities have gone up since people started using boxing gloves and helmets pads , reason is in bare knuckle fighting , fighters would instinctively aim for gut m when the opponent BOWS OUT which is where the term comes form when he has had enough and cant take any more pummelling . Bare knuckles would not aim for head face or jaw because of the risk of breaking their hands on the skull there fore protecting the opponents brain boxing or at very least head strikes should be banned

  • Jose Arias
    Jose Arias 8 months ago

    Gave me the confidence to buy 20seires because I've had 770 for so long

  • fataxel
    fataxel 8 months ago

    lighting is the most important feature for realism; at a fundamental level you are born and have seen light bouncing around you all your life. For the first time, this will happen real-time, and it is big. All lighting in games until now, has been made by faking it, so it really came/comes down to the skill of the technical, lighting and shading artists. From now on, this will be obsolete. Just like vertex paint lighting is today.

  • Jason martin
    Jason martin 8 months ago

    You know you gotta ask you self do you really wanna play a totally realistic game where people look like actual people in the the actual world I dont know maybe but maybe it would lose something.

  • Terence Edwards
    Terence Edwards 8 months ago

    that would knock aA nice hole .......into every one ......even its self

  • Terence Edwards
    Terence Edwards 8 months ago

    what windows needs is the ability to play xbox

  • Xeno Phon
    Xeno Phon 8 months ago

    So steam OS was ded and they took the code work they did for it and applied it to linux steamplay? Nicely done.

  • cfcreative
    cfcreative 8 months ago

    I don't agree at all we used to only have Steam, now we have from Poland and Origin which is EA but it works well now. With the new Wolfenstein games, Doom, the New Tomb Raider just coming out this year. I think 2018 has been one of the best years for PC gaming in a long time.

  • Planetdune
    Planetdune 9 months ago +2

    I love Win10. Best OS since 7, which was best since XP, which was best since 98SE which was best since 95 which was best since MS-DOS which was best since AmigaOS. It boots lightning fast, never crashes and does exactly what it needs to do, run my games and applications. :)

  • Tech No
    Tech No 9 months ago

    I wonder if you lot have gone quiet now because of RTX baby! you'll be all benching those beasts. Bench em good dudes.

  • Cole
    Cole 9 months ago

    this vid is ridiculous.
    gaming is only still going on windows because consoles are dead after this gen.
    ps5 is a hoax.

  • Erlend Brenn
    Erlend Brenn 9 months ago

    Bo i would fucking change to linux if i could play all my games

  • Hr1s7i
    Hr1s7i 9 months ago

    Raytracing will give more leeway for devs to do something else, like improve shaite textures, shaite facial animations, shaite whatthefuckever. Don't be weebs.

  • Éire-ice36
    Éire-ice36 9 months ago

    I guess it's better to be a few steps behind when it comes to gaming specs.

  • H Koizumi
    H Koizumi 9 months ago

    I would actually pay Linus to be in a pod cast with console peasants. I want to see how that will turn out.

  • Evi1M4chine
    Evi1M4chine 9 months ago +1

    Lol, oh Linus … In the 90s, we used to upgrade every TWO years. That was normal!

  • Evi1M4chine
    Evi1M4chine 9 months ago +2

    Reflections ARE lighting. It is ALL that lighting is about! Reflecting light off surfaces. Aka raytracing!
    It’s surprising to see that Linus clearly doesn’t know what lighting actually is and means.

  • Evi1M4chine
    Evi1M4chine 9 months ago +1

    Actually, *there is no Steam for Linux.* The Steam client itself uses Wine, which literally means it is not a Linux application, as that is Wine’s whole point. And it completely and utterly ignores everything that makes a Linux applications Linux applications. Like where which files go. Like using the system libraries and not packing your own. Like having games available in the package manager instead of the abominable abortion of an offspring called an "app store". Like using the system's native widgets so things look like the user decides to.

    • Evi1M4chine
      Evi1M4chine 9 months ago +1

      Yes, that makes Flatpack, Snap etc also not Linux. But that was already obvious, as Ubuntu, just like Android, isn’t Linux, but merely loosely based on it.

  • William Shreckengost
    William Shreckengost 9 months ago +2

    No. You put the weirdest questions in titles sometimes.

    • Evi1M4chine
      Evi1M4chine 9 months ago +1

      Yes it is. It apparently doesn’t know it yet though. But dinosaurs also took months to get cold when they died.

  • Life on Hoth
    Life on Hoth 9 months ago

    OK. From the start. Imagine if we actually did something people cared about! - You still don't get it? This is what we care about! ;). More servers! More VMs. In depth, tutorials. More of all that please! :).

  • Vaxtin
    Vaxtin 9 months ago

    Hm.. RTX + Elder Scrolls.. ;thinking;

  • Claudiu Grigore
    Claudiu Grigore 9 months ago

    PhysX it worked very well but . break all computers to the maximum . so it's still a good idea to optimize your applications . it's a powerful function for 3D architecture programs ... even cinema . and in pc games . but it is very necessary to have on and of in the settings . because otherwise you will not see the difference .
    on the 4400 Mhz ddr4 and a 32 core core on 4400 Mhz with some boards in the SLI MODE at least 4 gpu nVidia GeForce GTX 780 Ti ... there I think it will be a crystal result but it's a lot of power just for gaming . and you probably need a 1500w power source !!! which if you use it daily for 10 hours to maximum
    it will definitely cost you the electricity 90 $ us per month for only one pc . + what cost me through the house another $ 60 in electricity = 150 $ electricity bil

    it's possible !!! but I need sponsors ! would be a monster pc oc and should do miracles . testing starts with 3dmark 2006 ... and more both new and old ...
    all on 64-bit system and with 32 GB dd4 ideal 64. for the future ....

  • Robert D
    Robert D 9 months ago

    Linux v Austin
    Make it happen!

  • ceb1970
    ceb1970 9 months ago

    Did this stream ever discuss the subject in the title?

  • Snow s
    Snow s 9 months ago

    Please look up ray tracing I do not think you understand. I will Agree with you about the The triple AA stuff.

  • Robin Porter
    Robin Porter 9 months ago

    Kalashnikov car: How do you steer without taking the fenders/wings off??? haha

  • SatanIsTheLord
    SatanIsTheLord 9 months ago

    He looks like idiot in this video.

  • Yasai Picles
    Yasai Picles 9 months ago

    didn't watch the video but no, gaming on windows is now over. its only the beginning. damn normies.

  • Travis Miller
    Travis Miller 9 months ago

    hahaha the glasses looked tiny on lukes head, then linus puts them on...

  • AmpEdition
    AmpEdition 9 months ago

    So basically you are bitching because you can’t make as much money off of a platform...

  • Sal Morreale
    Sal Morreale 9 months ago

    Why dosent the time stamp mention the subject matter in the clip title? (Is gaming on windows dead?)

  • Andrew Copple
    Andrew Copple 9 months ago

    I hear RTX and think Rooster Teeth. I wonder if they copyrighted that term. I'd love to see that fight go down, lol!

  • DR GM
    DR GM 9 months ago

    Holy damn... X47 got owned lool

  • Ernie S
    Ernie S 9 months ago

    Gaming on a Windows PC with the most up to date version is always the way to go, although I will forever REJECT and REFUSE to accept or play with VR and especially AI (artificial intelligence)-AI is dangerous territory. The new nVidia cards have that technology, which is why no one should buy them or invest in them.

  • Josh Bird
    Josh Bird 9 months ago

    I have never had issues with window 7, windows 8, windows 10 etc. I dont really get what the issue is. Like is it hindering your performance? Because I have never had crashes or fps drops that I couldnt link to hardware or specs, never because of windows lol

  • Josh Shultz
    Josh Shultz 9 months ago


  • Josh Alexander
    Josh Alexander 9 months ago

    Late, but I would much prefer to be on Linux

  • David Jones
    David Jones 9 months ago

    Is Gaming on Windows DEAD?? LOL Thats so funny!

  • Joe Sterling
    Joe Sterling 9 months ago

    29:50 - Inescapable reason to *avoid* the 20 series of Nvidia cards. The first iteration of a fundamental new feature is never good enough in practice. The bleeding edge comes up short, and costs way too much.

  • yeet
    yeet 9 months ago

    I play on windows

  • dean hood
    dean hood 9 months ago

    Never say never Linus. You have not met me yet ? LoL

  • andalaria
    andalaria 9 months ago +1

    Could you upload the show also on spotify?

  • Jule Rulez
    Jule Rulez 9 months ago

    How come you are so smart Linus? "Educating the masses" .. WOW JUST WOOOOOWWW!!

  • Eric Wood
    Eric Wood 9 months ago

    Huzzah! I finally have the option to install Skyrim on Linux! This is going to be great!

  • axedavid201
    axedavid201 9 months ago

    34:38 Shroud does hardware benchmarks...?

  • Ľubomír Kompiš
    Ľubomír Kompiš 9 months ago

    Upvote for the hotsauce shenaningans.

  • andré van der lugt
    andré van der lugt 9 months ago +1

    If whine/proton works and is easy to use (for my girlfriend) i will stop using windows

  • Midnight
    Midnight 9 months ago +1

    Gaming on windows will never die due to Microsofts unassailable monopoly on the OS market worldwide.

    • Midnight
      Midnight 9 months ago +1

      @Evi1M4chine 95% of PC's worldwide use windows. The US goverment and military rely on it. Look up windows for submarines. Try again.

    • Evi1M4chine
      Evi1M4chine 9 months ago +1

      Don’t you need to go back to the 90s, mate?
      Microsoft’s monopoly is long gone. Even the desktop metaphor is dying. (I use a PC, but I don’t use a desktop environment. And smartphones don’t have desktop OSes either.)

  • NoobGamer
    NoobGamer 9 months ago

    I think pre orders are sold out is due to fear being played over price hike and scarcity post cryptomining boom. People think that either they'll secure it now, or they'll have to wait weeks or months for it at affordable pricing. Which in turn, became a self fulfilling propechy.

  • jakob findlay
    jakob findlay 9 months ago

    fight! fight! fight! wuuuu!

  • Morgan Andreasson
    Morgan Andreasson 9 months ago

    I'd like to see Linus vs Riley. There's clearly some hidden animosity there.

  • friedzombie4
    friedzombie4 9 months ago

    if you won't fight Austin, then fight Logan from Tek Syndicate; he's got a punch able face :p

  • Mark Schmeer
    Mark Schmeer 9 months ago

    Let's see the boxing match!

  • Al The Beastly
    Al The Beastly 9 months ago

    Also twitch isnt as phone/4g friendly

  • DrSeuss456
    DrSeuss456 9 months ago

    I know the "ray tracing" is getting a lot of flak, but I think it can actually be really useful for purposes that involve ray tracing, like some rendering engines such as Vray and IRay which can use CUDA as a processing unit for real-time rendering. Those are the kind benchmarks I want to see. It doesn't matter for video games just yet, another generation or two of these video cards and then games shall start being more playable and all will be dandy =) ... for NVIDIA

  • Vic Gorp
    Vic Gorp 9 months ago +2

    for those who were waiting for a right moment to switch from windows to linux - now is the time
    just get ubuntu 18, enable nvidia drivers, and download steam.
    thats it, gaming on linux is that easy now.
    if you are waiting for a time when you will be ready - don't you'll never be ready to switch until you do it

    • Evi1M4chine
      Evi1M4chine 9 months ago +2

      You said Linux.
      Ubuntu is not Linux. Or do you think Android is Linux too, just because the Kernel is Linux?
      Ubuntu is a systemd/Snappy/Gnome3 OS. Which is almost as far from Linux as Android.
      If you like it, alright for you crazy mofo. But don’t call it Linux. (Let alone GNU.)

  • First Name
    First Name 9 months ago

    I wouldn't completely rule out that it's you when it comes to Twitch viewership, at least partially. The decline in numbers seems to also correspond to when one or the other of you - or both of you - started being absent from the show more often than not. Maybe people like to watch more when you're both there?

  • ajar
    ajar 9 months ago +1

    Haven't heard Linus swear for a long time. Thanks Linus :)

  • PJ Duffield
    PJ Duffield 9 months ago

    Does the steam play thing work on Mac too?

  • Peter Vandelinder Opashinov

    It's funny to hear Linus talk about Linux gaming in such a positive light when all he's done for years is bash it. What a fucken hypocrite this Windows fanboy is.

  • Vicimus
    Vicimus 9 months ago

    IS GAMING ON WINDOWS DEAD?! no because a lot of people still don't want to deal with linux and its learning curve

  • r3krut
    r3krut 9 months ago

    gaming on windows dead xD nice joke

  • Mint Mag
    Mint Mag 9 months ago

    If Linux takes over I'm switching back to consoles.

  • CJ Bain
    CJ Bain 9 months ago

    Linus VS Colton

  • luky
    luky 9 months ago

    Microsoft lovers must find another reason to hate linux now

  • Chazer
    Chazer 9 months ago

    Switching to Linux will not happen unless Valve comes up with a much better version of the Steam OS. Anyone who is not familiar with the Linux architecture is likely to rage quit the first time they have to go "sudo -apt -get" in a terminal box or the drivers for their hardware need to be compiled. The last time Linux could have been considered a user friendly alternative to Windows is never, and the closest it ever got was when Windows was still using DOS underneath the hood (Windows ME in 2000 being the last iteration of it). This is cool news if you are already part of the Linux ecosystem, or if you are so poor that you can't afford to have a Windows OS installed in your computer, but I don't see this as any competition at all with Windows, to be honest (and yes, I know you were being sarcastic with the title).

  • Mickey Mouse
    Mickey Mouse 9 months ago

    9:35 Really Dumb !

  • threezerol944t
    threezerol944t 9 months ago

    Sooo.. They added the library already available via WINE and Playonlinux.

  • Warrie
    Warrie 9 months ago

    Luke laughing at Linus's hiccups is still the best thing I have heard all day. So contagious.

  • makon999
    makon999 9 months ago

    they should box on channel super fun

  • Seb T
    Seb T 9 months ago

    i played on windows since 95 to win10 without any issue :D ... Okkeeyy only win vista was fuckedUp XD

  • Randy Peddycoart
    Randy Peddycoart 9 months ago

    Linus new nick name "ROCKY" :)

  • David Hodgin
    David Hodgin 9 months ago

    Get on Apple podcasts

  • J-P Fisch
    J-P Fisch 9 months ago +1

    You new logo is gay

  • Savant PCs
    Savant PCs 9 months ago

    25:20: good question: Skyrim modding with realistic lighting mods makes a HUGE difference. However, prior to seeing that it is hard to say I ever worried about the lighting...

  • geminiMDZ
    geminiMDZ 9 months ago

    Yea... While watching this WAN my GPU died... So for me gaming on windows is truly dead (at least for some time).

  • PowerDuDe_DK
    PowerDuDe_DK 9 months ago

    Luke looks.... VERY tired... I'm slightly concerned.

  • Narixan Narix
    Narixan Narix 9 months ago +2

    Windows still runs all the games unlike other operating systems..

    • Evi1M4chine
      Evi1M4chine 9 months ago +2

      Yeah. It runs them unlike the others. Specifically by spying on literally every thing you do and selling it off, and by patronizing the user and treating him like it’s not his computer (aka Apple-style).

    • luky
      luky 9 months ago +2

      Unlike other operating systems is more likely to crash and be slow as hell.

  • Narixan Narix
    Narixan Narix 9 months ago

    no wtf you talking about?

  • Nathan Said
    Nathan Said 9 months ago


  • Raymus Munt
    Raymus Munt 9 months ago

    I wanna see that cage fight.

  • Ryan Vickers
    Ryan Vickers 9 months ago

    Those things you mentioned are obviously important in the overall immersion but lighting is a huge deal when it comes to visual realism and imo is easily on par with the importance of texture resolution, etc. Just look at some demos of traditional rendering vs RTX. Or, just look back at older games and notice how drastically the lighting has changed and what a difference it makes.

  • Keretizein x
    Keretizein x 9 months ago

    Ah, so Linus is a lover, not a fighter.

  • Broken Syntax
    Broken Syntax 9 months ago

    So... Tier 1 peering... Do you need a BGP admin?
    Also check out the SteamLink android client. I've played Elite:Dangerous on my Galaxy S 5 for the lulz.
    Charity boxing match!!!!

  • TechyMark
    TechyMark 9 months ago

    To your point about seeing the same art assets repeating in the gaming world the other benefit that nVidia kept repeating about direct ray tracing support is that is frees up resources and development time to develop other things and put more in the environments. This is extremely important for multi-platform games (which most on PC are) that have to deal with certification memory constraints on consoles. So the idea is that by the developers not having to spend time using tricks to get the right "lighting" (and by extension the most accurate colors) resources are free on the system for better art assets and more intense visual effects. I'm flabbergasted that the RTX card is totally sold out even though I am drinking the Kool-Aid that this is the future. Ray tracing in video games is definitely the future of video games but by the time adoption takes over where games are developed from the ground up with ray tracing in mind you're still talking about 3-6 years out. 3 years for AAA titles to go totally ray tracing rather than hybrids and dropping support for the tricks like SSAO. 6 years for all indie developers to pick it up. I'm all for ray tracing, but this is not the ray tracing focused series card you want. I say ray tracing focused because it's not like previous cards can't technically do it either. They just do it on such a limited and basic basis that the support isn't worth the reward for a real time video game.

  • Rolen Okumura
    Rolen Okumura 9 months ago

    First we feast with Linus and Luke! Hot ones. Pleeeease, that would be amazin

  • No Thanks
    No Thanks 9 months ago +1

    Just to be clear, I am actually going to switch to Linux Mint because of proton

  • Will F
    Will F 9 months ago


  • Ghargus
    Ghargus 9 months ago

    hmm this is indeed good news. i've been looking for the day that I could abandon windows completely as im tired of their anti game season update garbage. and it looks like valve can help us out in that after all.

  • Juan Martin Reyes
    Juan Martin Reyes 9 months ago

    plead alone as importance rain quit together though bow.

  • Chetan Naik
    Chetan Naik 9 months ago

    Thanks for modifying the new logo. It looks much more distinguishable and interesting!

  • Roach DoggJR
    Roach DoggJR 9 months ago

    THANK YOU VALVE. I think they are the only mayor software company that is really trying to show some love to Linux when it comes to gaming. I don't know why Vavle is so invested in Linux (nobody cares), but with them doing stuff like that, we might have a real chance to make Linux a little more mainstream!

  • Mathew Kennedy
    Mathew Kennedy 9 months ago

    Nvidia's 2k series is just like bethesda. No one cares what they shit out. Theyll pre-order anything

  • Mathew Kennedy
    Mathew Kennedy 9 months ago

    Welp. I just made a twitch to watch the wan show XD guess that was pointless

  • Robert T
    Robert T 9 months ago

    A boxing match could be good for charity.