Pilots heard on audio recording pleading with Boeing

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  • Published on May 15, 2019
  • American Airline pilot union officials met with Boeing engineers in Dallas after the first 737 Max crash and pushed them to take more action in a heated conversation.

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  • lockbert99
    lockbert99 7 days ago

    After the first crash Boeing was working on a fix. But the plane continued to fly. After the second crash, Boeing and the FAA were saying the plane should continue to fly - fix still not implemented. And no one is talking about putting the people responsible in jail.
    Boeing made a plane that tended to go nose up, made an unadvertised software correction that depended on a reading from a single sensor (even though there are two), made the indicator light that a sensor was bad a $80,000 unadvertised upgrade, and ignored that a pilot was trying to override the automatic attempts to push the nose down.

  • lawless
    lawless 24 days ago

    Boeing should never fly again. Headsup people Boeing was thinking of changing their airline name.

  • the pun
    the pun 25 days ago

    thank god they specified they want to fix the right things and they didnt want to fix the wrong things cause they wanted to fix the right things

  • James Ricker
    James Ricker 25 days ago

    This is what happens when you put a bean counter with no knowledge of the aviation industry in charge of an aviation company

  • Bobleeswag
    Bobleeswag 26 days ago

    Airbus is superior.

  • Kevin Kim
    Kevin Kim 26 days ago

    1. No, you do want to rush but do it right because the time was of the essence, i.e., people’s lives are at stake.
    2. Boeing should have grounded the planes immediately until fix.

  • Jamaican Me Crazy
    Jamaican Me Crazy 26 days ago +1

    After the 2nd crash I traveled to Florida and heard pilots discussing mcas at customs... There were 737 Max pilots one of them had no idea what was going on. Freaked me out.

  • davids myname
    davids myname 26 days ago

    Why, you have an electronic that can "OVERRIDE" manual input should not be installed.

  • john dada
    john dada 26 days ago

    How tf did he get on air with a gap big enough to fly that.boeing between

    • john dada
      john dada 26 days ago

      @Charles C sherpa derpy mepra derpa

    • Charles C
      Charles C 26 days ago

      john dada How tf did you learn to use the internet with an IQ in the single digits?

  • D HOP
    D HOP 26 days ago

    Sure is a lot of debris left, what happened at Shanksville? thexvid.com/video/dnUMft2p7KI/video.html

  • Thorpe Stanford
    Thorpe Stanford 27 days ago

    Corporate arrogance. This is what happens when the faa shirks its responsabilities and allows a company to certify their own product. What could possibly go wrong?

  • Joe Montes
    Joe Montes 27 days ago

    Boeing is going to eat it for this one.😵

  • Old Gregg
    Old Gregg 27 days ago

    I always think this news reader looks like Kevin Lee’s older brother. 😂

  • Forest Whitaker's Eye
    Forest Whitaker's Eye 27 days ago

    Why is Michael Strahan reading me news about aviation?

  • Ebenezer Nikoi
    Ebenezer Nikoi 27 days ago

    One word: Ridiculous.

  • Claude LeBel
    Claude LeBel 27 days ago

    Simply criminal.

  • pjdave27
    pjdave27 27 days ago

    “Senior transportation correspondent”. Seriously? That’s not a young dude either. Needs to do some life evaluation.

  • Johnny Botts
    Johnny Botts 27 days ago

    Ultimate outcome? Boeing will get fined and sued by the families of the deceased, their customers will pay them back thru higher tix prices and nothing will happen to the FAA people who certified the plane. Oh - and you'll hear several congressmen say - 'so we can get to the bottom of this an make sure this never happens again'.

  • One10 2Ten
    One10 2Ten 27 days ago

    Boeing makes stuff. Would you buy a car that maybe once in 300000 miles makes you swerve to the right while locking the breaks? Or a house that once in a decade has all its windows spontaneously shatter? No. Fuck that. Boeing, id love to work for you in the future, but really wtf was your thinking here? Your stocks fucking plummeted. People died. And you call it unnecessary info

  • ahopoka
    ahopoka 27 days ago

    When companies are profits driven by doing everything it can to beat there competitors instead of the representing of a long history of safety the name of who they represent and that goes out the window 1 bad mistake on there behalf.
    Customers are the life force of any company to exist when you show disregard to the paying public to use your product and you fail them with pride & arrogance then expect the masses to take there business elsewhere.
    Had they step back looked at the big picture and did a check list of what was needed from the start ie new fuselage, reengineered and everything to what Airbus took the time and now in the air Boeing through they get away with it and failed 100%
    They don't want to admit they failed not honest with themselves they got to look at themselves why & where we went wrong when you cover up your faults you digging yourself a bigger hole and then it's the point of no return.
    Had they been honest right from the start and keeping everything in check we wouldn't be having this discuss and Boeing name be in tact they lost their credibility with lies of not been up front until after the fact the truth hurts but it hurts when your name & representation has lost the interest of the flying public admit you are wrong be humble and gain the interest of the flying public & pilots that fly the skies of Boeing name intact and not tarnish.

  • nutsackmania
    nutsackmania 27 days ago

    Flaps to 5 mcas disabled. Get the planes back in the air ffs.

  • THe Shoot
    THe Shoot 27 days ago

    In this audio Boeing basically said fuck you to the pilots and the countless passengers that trust the pilots with their lives every time they choose to fly! Forget that this malfunction is an extremely rare occurrence but that this extremely rare occurrence can single handedly crash a plane possibly killing everyone on board!

  • Greg Cunningham
    Greg Cunningham 27 days ago

    To be fair, the officials didn’t really sound that off base.

  • austinix
    austinix 28 days ago

    This is why I travel by train

  • JRT 4JUSTICE
    JRT 4JUSTICE 28 days ago

    Shareholders should threaten to dump stocks for gross negligence and misconduct (among many other charges including fraud) by Boeing in ignoring a deadly product defect . The results of which KILLED INNOCENT PEOPLE., Boeing should be charged for various criminal violations....it’s absurd not to ! the company flaunts it’s cozy relationship due to its govt contracts which is funded by taxpayers. Enough already! Several years ago the company fired their own internal quality control auditors because they blew the whistle on Boeing’s subcontractors providing sub par and at times defective air frames for the fuselage which has threatened the integrity of the planes....simply insane. Aren’t people fed up with loosing trust with the govt who se supposed to protect them and bring justice? We retirees lost billions in 2008 along with others due to bank fraud schemes....yet NOT ONE PERSON WENT TO PRISON! If you get busted with an ounce of dope....the county’s DA will make sure and probably win a conviction for prison time...where’s the justice?

  • Mehrox Syed
    Mehrox Syed 28 days ago

    remove that stupid system and keep it simple like the other planes .. why did boeing have to overdoo it?

  • MUCKSPREADER1
    MUCKSPREADER1 28 days ago

    Ban all American products like the Americans do with Huawei only difference is America is happy to kill people for profit meanwhile Huawei don't.

  • jabba0975 jj
    jabba0975 jj 28 days ago

    All about the $$. Unless Boeing is sued out of business, it will be back to business as usual, because make no mistake, this IS business as usual in the US of A.

  • Marisa Cerullo
    Marisa Cerullo 28 days ago

    Wow what bullshit. Thank you to the pilots who made the calls. Shame on Boeing.

  • Paul Gallagher
    Paul Gallagher 28 days ago

    This is a sad chapter in the history of aviation. For so many years there was continuous safety improvements. Flying didn't become so safe by accident. It was because of a strict laws and engineering principles. Boeing and the FAA really blew it. Anyone that allowed this plane to fly that knew about the issues, needs to be held accountable. And the pilots have some responsibility also. He said he was the last line of defense, yet remained silent while customers lives were being put at risk.

  • That Xbox Channel
    That Xbox Channel 28 days ago +1

    People don’t know what aircraft they are talking about in affiliated comment sections with the 737-800MAX people are like “OH NO I WILL NEVER FLY ON A 737 AGAIN!!” When in reality the 737-800 and so forth are one of the safest planes ever built....... not the 737-800MAX contain the spread of misinformation

  • Kenny J
    Kenny J 28 days ago

    So glad I didnt take that job with Boeing....

  • bluesageful
    bluesageful 28 days ago

    Man....if that's not typical Corporate Rhetoric, I don't know what is!

  • secret
    secret 28 days ago +3

    made in America. hahahaa they don't care about people live.

  • EveryLadiesFantasy
    EveryLadiesFantasy 28 days ago +1

    FUCK YOU BOEING !
    Love you agp 🙏🏻

  • 12345fowler
    12345fowler 28 days ago

    So Boeing carefully stated that they didn't feel it's important to tell pilots about a system that can take control of the most powerful surface out there (stabilizer) which in just two increments can bring it full nose down (2*2,5°) ? This has to be the most moronic statement ever. Of course pilots wants to know if a system THAT powerful is hiden behind the scene and also have a proper procedure that help them cope with any of it's malfunction. Well I forgot maybe Boeing didn't want to talk about the manueal trim limitations and let people know about it ? (Yo-yo manoeuvre to relieve air loads from stabilizer which has disappeared from flying manuals since the B737NG ?)

  • Calzonie
    Calzonie 28 days ago

    What a clown he is saying the outcome would be the same that’s not the bloody point the absolute wet wipe

  • Milton Waddams
    Milton Waddams 28 days ago

    FAA won't do much, other countries need to take their time to test everything on Boeing aircraft before certificates are issued. We can assume there are other major issues, this is the only one that was discovered.

  • Milton Waddams
    Milton Waddams 28 days ago

    Yeah the thing that killed hundreds of people, it's really unnecessary information. What's next, telling car drivers how brakes work? LOL. We can't overwhelm people.

  • Marc Bryant
    Marc Bryant 28 days ago

    I don't know why I just can't get used to seeing Michael Strahan in such a refined capacity. In the NFL he was one of the most brutal tacklers to ever play the game. You can teach an old dog new tricks.

  • Barnali D
    Barnali D 29 days ago

    Read this New York Times article, it'll give some clarity and perspective as to what's going on. www.nytimes.com/2019/05/05/business/boeing-737-max-warning-light.html?action=click&module=RelatedCoverage&pgtype=Article®ion=Footer

  • Kim
    Kim 29 days ago

    Could there be something more sinister going on?

  • Dylan Jones Jr
    Dylan Jones Jr 29 days ago

    Boeing: RUSHES A CRAPPY AIRCRAFT TO MARKET TO COMPETE WITH AIRBUS
    Also Boeing: We don't want to rush and do a crappy job fixing the right things.

  • TLloyd
    TLloyd 29 days ago

    Sounds like a bunch of pc bullshit. Boeing wants to save face so they won’t say too much smh

  • Jazzmanpac
    Jazzmanpac 29 days ago

    Did I hear correct - 'WE DONT WANT TO FIX WRONG THINGS'? So shall we repair things that are right and ignore the wrong ones? That guy couldnt put together a sentence and we should trust him 35,000ft up in the air? These people responsible should be jailed for life!

  • DrPuppeteer ASMR
    DrPuppeteer ASMR 29 days ago +7

    0:40 the dude in the background was carrying three duffel bags, wtf?

    • A Michele
      A Michele 26 days ago

      DrPuppeteer ASMR Lolol it’s one duffle bag and a golf bag

  • HANGAR NUT
    HANGAR NUT 29 days ago

    I think it should be written in law for all the Boeing upper management/ CEOs to be ordered to fly on the 737 max to every major city and apologize to the American citizens. If you believe in your aircrafts so much so then you fly in the muthfuckers. PERIOD!

  • Alisia Lopez
    Alisia Lopez 29 days ago

    Oh hell no. The info was unnecessary to tell them? No American Airlines for me

  • Martin Jones
    Martin Jones 29 days ago

    I Think Some of the fault goes to the airlines themselves. Just my 2 cents.

  • Loophole
    Loophole 29 days ago +1

    I keep my opinion that all the max 8s should be dismantled both as a precaution and a punishment.

  • TheYoutubeGuy
    TheYoutubeGuy 29 days ago

    Does that guy park his car in the gap in his teeth?

  • Kyana Bonaventure
    Kyana Bonaventure 29 days ago +1

    Knowing information about the new system wouldn’t have prevented what happened??? Wow I can’t believe what I just heard

  • deniel edwards
    deniel edwards 29 days ago

    BOEING SHOULD BE 100 % RESPONSIBLE PERIOD ....IT MAKES ME SICK SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE TO LOSE THERE LIFE.

  • Phillip Datcher
    Phillip Datcher 29 days ago

    Boeing is done...

  • MD D
    MD D 29 days ago

    Boeing Execs were desperately trying to beat the Airbus! They replaced the FAA officials with their engineers to validate the 737 Max. They didn't fully test the new system, because it would take too much time. They did all of this for MONEY. ALL of them need to be sued, imprisoned, put to death & burn in HELL!

  • TruthNeverChanges AWAKE

    BOEING STOP lying¡

  • TruthNeverChanges AWAKE

    There is video that states that BOEING DIDN'T WANT TO PAY THE TRAINING FEE... ITS A VIDEOS ON SIMULATORS. WITH A PILOT AND A AUSTRALIAN JOURNALIST!! HEY IF I AT 67 YEARS OLD UNDERSTAND THE IRRESPONSIBLE AND WHAT HAPPENED WHY IS THERE SUCH BACK PEDALING BY BOEING OFFICIALS. THE PLANE S STALL, THE PILOT HAS 10 SECONDS TO LEVEL OUT THE PLANE MANUALLY OTHERWISE THE PLANE GOES INTO A NOSE DIVE!!!!!!!! WTF.. PILOTS CAN READ MANUEL BUT THEY WERE NOT TOLD ABOUT THE TINY YET VITAL PART OF THE PLANE. 5 SECONDS TO LEVEL PLANE 10 SECONDS TO KEEP IT FROM STALLING IN WHICH THE PLANE IS OUT OF THE PILOTS CONTROL!!. THIS IS GREED ON BOEING.. AND DOES THE PUBLIC KNOW ABOUT NO FUEL USED... YET LIE ABOUT TICKET COSTS DO TO FUEL PRICES, BULL POOP.... NEW ENGINE USE COMPRESSED AIR THAT HEATS AND COMBUSTS IN THE NEW TURBINE ENGINES!! I WILL NEVER FLY AGAIN. AND I'VE FLOWN MANY TIMES..GREEDY S.O.B.

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  • Metaphix11b
    Metaphix11b 29 days ago

    Boeing should have its corporate licence revoked and be completely broken apart, but they have too many lobbyists.

  • Smelly FatSMmmy
    Smelly FatSMmmy 29 days ago

    Is that mike Tyson on the news

  • Orome
    Orome Month ago

    I'm a frequent flyer and I've always picked Airbus over Boeing, even before all these incidents. I find similar size Airbus planes to be more comfortable and quieter. Airbus just seems to care more about passenger comfort and safety while Boeing only cares about profit.

  • katherine a
    katherine a Month ago

    Ooo I've been to Reagan international airport when I went to Washington dc

  • Bob Bobby
    Bob Bobby Month ago +2

    MAX engines are too far forward, in front of the wing, affecting the balance of the plane, so MCAS was added, to fix.
    The original 737 design used long thin jet engines (737-200), that fit under the wing. Boeing needs to design a new plane, that can incorporate these big new turbo fan engines, that fit in front of the wing.

  • Jennifer O'Dell
    Jennifer O'Dell Month ago

    WOW, Boeing you are murderers

  • Delusions of Grandeur

    "We don't want to rush and do a crappy job fixing the right things and we also don't want to fix the wrong things."
    That sounds like someone who has no idea how the fuck airplanes work and only cares about how much of a profit Boeing can make. Absolutely disgusting.

  • platedlizard
    platedlizard Month ago

    negligent manslaughter. they should have disabled that system after the first crash.

  • unapologetically me

    That's terrifying! Why are humans so greedy

  • Logan Brasfield
    Logan Brasfield Month ago +22

    I will say if pilots are like this, I’ll be a lot more comfortable flying

  • Ze C.
    Ze C. Month ago

    Genius to let boeing themselves certify their own aircraft
    They definitely dont have any incentive to just certify it to make more profit
    Also that explanation for not telling pilots about the information “to not overload the crew on information” is totally bullshit
    Of course Boeing is protected however since theyre the only airplane manufacturer in the states

  • Scooby BOI
    Scooby BOI Month ago

    I'm kinda stoopid so can some1 tell me what goin on

  • Jessie Liggins
    Jessie Liggins Month ago

    This is total insanity to have something on plane that pilots don't know how to operate

  • Pinche Gringo
    Pinche Gringo Month ago

    Racists!!!

  • Heather Mefford
    Heather Mefford Month ago

    *This is truly sickening...*

  • Kayleigh Goodsell
    Kayleigh Goodsell Month ago

    Yikes if the FAA approved that plane how safe are our FAA “approved” car seats?!

    • Joey Brown
      Joey Brown Month ago

      Kayleigh Goodsell ?? FAA federal Aviation administration

  • bokeem bridge
    bokeem bridge Month ago

    They dont sound angry to me

  • Seb Lemery
    Seb Lemery Month ago

    Boeing needs to be sued for everything it has for this. And NOT to be bailed out. They will close and get what they deserve.

  • Red Bluesome
    Red Bluesome Month ago

    You fuckers deal with your Max 8 thingamajig, I’ll over here in my DC-7.

  • Erika
    Erika Month ago

    Shame on Boeing for not informing the pilots! It shouldn't be on a need to know basis. One crash or accident is enough.

  • Charlie Jones
    Charlie Jones Month ago

    Fuck boeing...angry grandpa for life

  • CDKJ 85
    CDKJ 85 Month ago

    You know, if all the pilots would simply refuse to fly Boeing planes until they gave them the info they wanted, i think that might solve the problem.

  • Venom Q
    Venom Q Month ago

    Damn. Boeing actually won the war against Airbus. At the turn of the century a line was drawn in the sand. Airbus believed that a super jumbo was the answer, however Boeing believed that the smaller jet was the answer. Boeing has since been proven to be right with the recent end of the A380 build programme. So what did Boeing do with this windfall?? Take a twenty year old deprecated (or what should be) aircraft design and strap engines to it that it was clearly not designed for. FFS, they called the right play and instead of designing a new aircraft from the ground up they chose the cheap ass route. It's only the most popular large commercial narrowbody airframe on the planet. A new aircraft design to replace it would've set them up for the next 20-30 years.

  • Caroline Grace
    Caroline Grace Month ago +1

    Hearing that crews on every plane pilots included don't know all of the processes to save for mental load and knowledge storage...is disgusting and makes me never wanna fly again. Maybe they shouldn't be pilots if they can't handle all of the information. They aren't rocket scientists; though it is an elite job, for the best in the field, and none other than.

  • Redwingsfan
    Redwingsfan Month ago

    Flying is so safe today compared with just a couple of decades ago. There used to be at least one major airline crash each year and that was considered safe. Now we expect perfection and that’s impossible.

  • Lunibruniful
    Lunibruniful Month ago +1

    I'm glad Tyson improved his speech and is reporting news.

  • kenjryker
    kenjryker Month ago

    How are the CEO and Exec still in their jobs? Is this for real? What happened to getting paid the big bucks going with taking accountability???????????????????

  • Laura Worthington
    Laura Worthington Month ago

    The FAA really looks just stupid in this whole thing. Now Boeing is looking like what they are, a company concerned with the bottom line. Those piolits have not just the right, but the necessity to know about everything that aircraft might do without their control. Without that knowledge that one time they see it turns into just what happened, a lot of lives lost for no damn reason besides money. Welcome to corporate America

  • maddoxthecreator
    maddoxthecreator Month ago

    Did he really say they try not to overload the crew with information that’s unnecessary? Wtf! Pilots go through a bunch of training and you stick something in that they don’t know about. Real smart ass response

  • povang
    povang Month ago

    Boeing CEO's and high management fly in small private jets, they have no incentive or urgency to worry about large commercial airliners. Bet your ass that if we made them fly in big airliners with the rest of us they'd be the safest planes in the world.

  • Ronsonn Swandom
    Ronsonn Swandom Month ago

    We dont want to rush it and f ix the wrong things? YOU SHOULD BE IN FUCKING JAIL! ! With the boeing company taken over by somebody else, and everyone involved fired and replaced. Fuck your rushing

  • UenoHarajuku
    UenoHarajuku Month ago

    Pierre-Cédric Bonin killing from beyond the grave.

  • Jessica LT
    Jessica LT Month ago +39

    And people worry about unions??
    Sh - - ! Looks like corporate greed
    Explains everything here.
    Class action lawsuit!

    • Wane felicia
      Wane felicia 29 days ago

      @Sany Nava yes giving a bad name to organized labor efforts🙈

    • Karol j.
      Karol j. 29 days ago

      @BrianYaKDude , . I agree

    • BrianYaKDude
      BrianYaKDude 29 days ago +1

      Jessica LT No class action. Class action makes tons of money for the lawyer and very little for the plaintiff.

    • Sany Nava
      Sany Nava 29 days ago +1

      Unions have taken it too far as well...

  • Nugroho W.
    Nugroho W. Month ago

    Information thats unnecessary? Information that leads to people fucking dying?!

  • Heavens to Murgatroyd
    Heavens to Murgatroyd Month ago +109

    Gee as a retired engineer I thought it was our job to fix " the wrong things"..... Yikes.

  • nihiswann
    nihiswann Month ago

    fk Boeing! one of the most evil companies ever... all about the $$$, costing people their lives

  • Kia Rainey
    Kia Rainey Month ago +6

    Also, the industry got this lesson from an earlier crash, I believe with new Airbus automation no one thought pilots should be made aware of. Proud of these #American pilots and everyone who tried to sound the alarm. I'll be proud again of #Boeing IF they'll stop hedging legal arguments, own this mistake fully, and fix it!

  • theonlyari
    theonlyari Month ago

    Your selective editing of this has only done a disservice. I guess that not surprising though, you have a narrative that you have to stick to.

  • klepetar
    klepetar Month ago +4

    devil companies = Boeing, General Motors, Xerox, Monsanto .. the list could go on...

  • Mary Williams
    Mary Williams Month ago

    People and pIlots are stupid, Boeing!

  • Badmojox
    Badmojox Month ago

    wtf "you take all these classes to know how to fly the plane but we got a new system and feel like you don’t need to know how to use it or what it is" that is fucking crazy

  • rocky smith
    rocky smith Month ago +5

    Why was it even sold to airlines with such kind of an issue without even proper training

  • puddin Tain
    puddin Tain Month ago

    Hmmm looking at Stahan as a reporter makes me laugh out loud