Marvel (MCU) vs Star Wars: Why one is rising and one is falling

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  • Published on Jul 7, 2018
  • In this versus video I compare the Marvel Cinematic Universe to Star Wars under Disney.
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  • Holden McGroin
    Holden McGroin 12 hours ago

    Star Wars died after the terrible prequels. The mediocre sequels/anthology films are too bland and unoriginal to revive the corpse of Star Wars.

  • Musonda Chileshe

    Endgame happens next

  • Art Zbinden
    Art Zbinden Day ago

    STAR WARS SUCKS!!!!!!!!

  • Kazuki Yanai
    Kazuki Yanai 2 days ago

    This is a good lesson for all of us.

  • therobotchickenMLP
    therobotchickenMLP 3 days ago

    My mom thought Batman and Superman were part of the Avengers. _When has she ever seen them in the same movie?_
    _sigh_ I also had difficulty explaining to her that Rouge One took place before A New Hope ("the first Star Wars" movie I had to call it).
    And she forgot how everyone died at the end of Infinity War, so the post-credit scene and Ant-Man and the Wasp confused her.
    She's not exactly great at following a plot, which makes me wonder how she watches Game of Thrones...

  • Dedre Reads
    Dedre Reads 5 days ago

    The Marvel movies are better written overall, with a large cast of likable characters who are all different but are kept consistent with themselves and develop over time to become better, more fleshed out people.

    Star Wars is not this. Arguably, even the Prequels suffered a little from this, but the Sequels are almost a completely different series altogether.

    And SOLO, contrary to box office numbers, was an good movie. I liked it. Not the best I've ever seen (only the original trilogy ever got that, really), but at least they remembered to make it FUN and FUNNY so we actually CARED when they had to struggle through things.

    It was ROGUE FREAKING ONE that started to ruin Star Wars for me, and likewise probably turned a lot of classic fans off from the "spinoff" Star Wars movies. Rogue One was an oppressive despair-romp. "This girl's childhood stinks, her life stinks every since then, it stinks all the way to her death." "Life stinks for all of these characters until they *spoilers* die in a fiery explosion, even though there were Many, Many chances for that NOT to happen!" Most of the cast was so unlikable that we didn't care about them in the FIRST place, BUT since all the characters DIED, we cease caring about them AFTER the movie too. There will be no adventures of the space jedi monk and his tank friend, no sassy robot and fish-out-of-water pilot questing, not even the happily-ever-after search of the questionable love couple: the jerk spy and the broken emo child. They died. That's it. End of story. And I'm actually GLAD that half of them died because they were JERKS. The other half I'd totally watch another movie about, but GUESS WHAT? THEY'RE DEAD. Can't do that. No more $$$ for Disney.

    Dark things happen in the main Star Wars series, there's no doubt about that. BUT. It's because of the lighthearted moments, the little character interactions, the jokes, the HOPE, that we CARE when things get bad for them, that we HAVE hope that they can turn things around, and that we're SCARED if it starts to look like they're in over their heads. Rogue One completely left that out of the script.

    This same problem is one of the things that plagues the Star wars sequels, too. We had hope that the original trio could make things better. Did they do it? Maybe for a year. Did we SEE it? Nope. And now their lives are shit. Complete shit. That will remain shit despite their efforts until they die. Or they'll have to die to make them "not shit" anymore, but *gasp* GUESS WHAT? THEY'RE DEAD NOW. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER!!! No more $$$ for Disney from those three.

    FFS THEY'RE STILL BRINGING YODA BACK TO MILK HIM, AND HE DIED FIVE MOVIES AGO!!! And I'm HAPPY about it, because he's an Enjoyable character that I CARE about who adds HUMOR and DEPTH at the SAME TIME!!! idk why they thought having that kind of treatment for the main cast would be a BAD idea??!? WHEN THEY'RE THE ONES WHO MADE IT POSSIBLE IN THE FIRST PLACE FOR US TO CARE ABOUT THIS STORY!!! YODA DIDN'T EVEN SHOW UP UNTIL THE SECOND MOVIE!!!!

  • last chance blueprint
    last chance blueprint 6 days ago +1

    What a bunch of whiney pussies

  • Lego man fn2188
    Lego man fn2188 7 days ago

    I've been a star wars fan for a long time but solo a star wars story SUCKS!

  • Anthony Pertick
    Anthony Pertick 10 days ago +1

    As a Star Wars fan, I have one thing to say about this



    Disney

  • 00 goop
    00 goop 10 days ago

    Marvel to our generation is what Star Wars was back when it first came out.

  • Zage
    Zage 14 days ago

    Mcu is my Star Wars

  • Dosheyan Rai
    Dosheyan Rai 15 days ago

    I dont think star wars are falling the latest movie earner more than infinity war

    • Ty Palmer
      Ty Palmer 11 days ago +1

      The latest Star Wars film, Solo, didn't even come close to making a quarter of what Infinity War did.

  • A K
    A K 17 days ago

    Monsterverse beats both

  • Sara Zonana
    Sara Zonana 17 days ago

    I think it’s all about The characters

    The MCU can stand without the Original 6 Avengers and Loki, Star Wars doesn’t work well without the characters of the original trilogy.
    Sure the Original 6 Avengers + Loki are the favorite characters of most the The MCU fans including mine well my three faves the three characters who got their individual trilogies.( Tony Stark/Iron Man Steve Rogers/ Captain America and Thor) but the thing is Marvel now can do very well without them because they introduced new heroes to us slowly to the point where they didn’t need the OG 6 anymore.
    Maybe one day the Original 6 will come back with new actors in the roles but will be maybe in 50 years probably so people can give The new actors who would portray those roles. Right now marvel re cast the OG 6 and fans would roast them so they are still working with new characters they introduced us since mid phase two so in phase 4 we are used to them and can let go the old ones.

  • ELbong Magsanoc
    ELbong Magsanoc 18 days ago

    because the story plot of Star Wars franchise sucks!

  • Stephen Warner
    Stephen Warner 20 days ago +2

    7:49 I am inevitable

  • John Glosson
    John Glosson 20 days ago

    I can only speak for myself but I avoid Solo specifically because TLJ made me so mad. I eventually watched Solo on Netflix and it was mediocre. I didn't hate it but I'm glad I didn't buy a ticket.

  • LegoFan246
    LegoFan246 21 day ago

    I'm here almost a year later. Just wanted to say that... Endgame has surpassed The Force Awakens (highest-grossing Star Wars movie) by about 120 million dollars as of now. MCU is officially more successful than Star Wars.

  • Hugh Davies
    Hugh Davies 24 days ago

    We went back 10 years like 10 times. I am lost in time

  • Samir R
    Samir R 26 days ago

    Was never the biggest fan of the Last Jedi or Star Wars in general, but that movie had plot holes the size of Jupiter and a lot of the old characters seemed so different from their usual personality.

  • Saint Louis
    Saint Louis 27 days ago

    Disney has on purpose watered down the star wars franchise, to make sure that a new generation of movie fans are ready for the next 40 years with MCU. Endgame just made star wars look weak.

    • Mike Dasik
      Mike Dasik 22 days ago

      Not true.
      Marvel Studios and Lucasfilm are quite autonomic studios. Unless they do something wrong - like financially unsuccessful movie - Disney doesn't interfere with their plans.
      When Solo flopped, all Disney main producers - even Kevin Feige from Marvel - had crisis meeting about what tf went wrong with Star Wars.
      So, Marvel success is about Kevin Feige. He knows and likes comics, he has a lot of experience (he produced superhero movies even before MCU was created) and he has a plan for every movie he makes and for the story arc throughout all those movies.
      Star Wars under Kathleen Kennedy lacks such plan. JJ made TFA and set up some story for next movies. Then Ryan Johnson came and he literally rewrote everything JJ set up. That would never happen in Marvel, Kevin Feige would rather fire the director than let him to compromise his universe.

  • TheJrade
    TheJrade Month ago

    Considering the sexism and racism of Captain Marvel and the way Disney has doubled down on it, I for one am a bit worried about the future of the MCU.

  • brownthunder
    brownthunder Month ago +1

    MCU>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Star Wars

  • JR Larrea
    JR Larrea Month ago

    Kathleen Kennedy should step down and Dave Filoni should step in. Afterwards, they should based their work on the Star Wars expanded universe. Why throw away decades of writing? The reason the MCU is so successful is because they are basing themselves on a source material (not dogmatically) but they use it as a road map.
    To save Star Wars, the next movie should be the Thrawn Trilogy with new actors cast as Luke, Leia and Han. Look at Spiderman, his series didn't just end when Tobey stepped down. It's time to stop getting nostalgic and start getting pragmatic.

  • Angela Krows
    Angela Krows Month ago +4

    Star wars: I feel a presence rising. We must retreat.
    DC: We cannot fight the rising tide.
    Star trek: Captain Kirk, I am detecting an entity of unparalleled power.
    Marvel: You are no longer kings in this world.

  • DINO
    DINO Month ago

    that is one savage ass thumbnail

  • Kevin Sanshiro
    Kevin Sanshiro Month ago

    Kathleen Kennedy is a fucking Demon who escapes from the deepest part of Hell.She needs to be fired!

  • Robert Lipski
    Robert Lipski Month ago

    SW is bigger then MCU on every level.

    • Robert Lipski
      Robert Lipski 21 day ago

      +Mike Dasik Wow, you really are braindamaged.

    • Mike Dasik
      Mike Dasik 22 days ago

      +Robert Lipski I know enough. For example, I know you're just a fanboy zombie who doesn't get reality. :)

    • Robert Lipski
      Robert Lipski 22 days ago

      +Mike Dasik I see you know nothing about genres, movies etc. Maybe best for you to crawl in that cave you came from.

    • Mike Dasik
      Mike Dasik 22 days ago

      +Robert Lipski Yes, they are. It's probably hard for you to learn that this way, but it's true. They are just fairytales about good heroes going against evil. In space.

  • bean stalker
    bean stalker Month ago

    I think Marvel HAD everything planned out, I am not sure where they could go after the villain they spent years building up is out of the picture.

  • Bale Sahagun
    Bale Sahagun Month ago

    Starwars like DCEU needs a reboot

  • Bale Sahagun
    Bale Sahagun Month ago

    I feel like they should have made the force awakens being the first. Training of Ray would be the second, having a war where Ray goes off half cocked and joined in finding out she wasn't as good as she thought she was finding out snokes origin. Third would be a final battle and mabe make a plot twist. I know it's sort of copying the OG starwars trilogy but the formula works: use it.

  • Bale Sahagun
    Bale Sahagun Month ago

    Starwars director and producers mistakes Batman v Superman for Captain America civil war and modeled the last jedi from it.

  • Maclovio Fernandez
    Maclovio Fernandez 2 months ago

    i don't see disney being the problem though... as marvel owns disney as well. it's obvious that kennedy has poor foresight and planning, whereas it seems like feige has had an amazingly disciplined larger vision of where he wanted to take the franchise and how to get there. they have literally been playing into infinity war for over 10 years. if star wars 7 (probably wouldn't have been called force awakens) was started at a high point (the republic has been strong and thriving) and then tragically dismantled in a triology (with the OT heroes fighting valiantly) while introducing new characters (good and bad; we see kylo ren turn, we see rey being trained), i believe the story would have been much more interesting. then a second "triology" (in essence a clear continuation) would revolve around new characters fighting to redeem their fallen mentors against the first order... star wars management was given a gift wrapped in a big pretty bow and just took a huge shit all over it.

  • William Mcdaniel
    William Mcdaniel 2 months ago

    I don't understand comparing marble to Star Wars first of all George Lucas is no longer part of Star Wars and who cares Disney owns both franchises and getting paid from both of them

  • Dino Monzon
    Dino Monzon 2 months ago +3

    Given how Rian Johnson & Kathleen Kennedy alienated & fractured their own fanbase, something Marvel didn't do when the Capt. Marvel film got nega bombed by ignorant trolls.
    Capt. Marvel may be considered a 'divisive' superhero movie, yet its very successful, currently making $555Million at the box office Worldwide.
    Given the deserved backlash The Last Jedi and Star Wars continues to get, I'm glad I'm a Star Trek fan.

  • NFL Talk
    NFL Talk 2 months ago

    Like: Star Wars
    Comment: marvel

    • Arnold Patterson
      Arnold Patterson Month ago

      Marvel. I'm sorry that I've never really been a Star Wars fan.

  • Ahsoka Tano
    Ahsoka Tano 2 months ago

    I dont care about the marvel movies, they are so cringy, full of bad acting, THEY ALWAYS HAVE THE SAME FUCKING TYPE OF VILLAIN.

  • swati singh
    swati singh 2 months ago +1

    The problem star wars is partially or wholly disney

  • tarawibowo
    tarawibowo 2 months ago

    Nope your wrong...

  • Ellie Lovegood
    Ellie Lovegood 2 months ago

    My favorite marvel characters
    5. Ant-Man
    4. Jean Grey
    3. Spiderman
    2. Scarlet Witch
    1. Loki

  • just some ninja shit
    just some ninja shit 2 months ago +2

    The big thing now is that marvel have captured the admiration of a entire generation and now how the most popular charachters in hollywood iron man,captain america,thor. 15 years ago batman,superman were the most popular but now its flipped

  • Chain Masters
    Chain Masters 2 months ago

    There is a way for me to not boycott star wars. Announce that the last Jedi doesn't count and remake it with a director who respects what they are working with.

  • whatdaheck
    whatdaheck 2 months ago

    here is an idea make a movie and call it the last jedi then only show him in 20% of the movie and make the other 80% about some lame ass characters ,also force some interracial relationship in there also whats next the gays awaken ,maybe have Lando suxing jabba's dick show that alien sex is cool also

  • Dennis Tay
    Dennis Tay 3 months ago

    www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/9h0mue/i_hate_to_say_it_but_the_get_woke_go_broke/

    I read the link above and I thought over about the concept of “Go Woke, Go Broke”.

    If I’m to be perfectly honest, a likeable fictional character is a likeable fictional character regardless of gender, race, religion, nationality or sexuality. In that regard, the whole concept of “Go Woke, Go Broke” should be rather irrelevant. The same goes for other storytelling elements such as plot and themes.

    The problem, which also makes the concept of “Go Woke, Go Broke” pretty darn relevant, is when people try to enforce a politically correct narrative to the point of ruining a story or a character. Let’s go over a few examples.

    In the movie, ‘Aliens’, the main character is a WOMAN named Ellen Ripley. I enjoyed watching the movie and did not care that Ellen Ripley was a lady as she kicked Xenomorph ass. The reasons why I did not care were because the movie was awesome and, a VERY important fact to take note of, Ellen Ripley was a likeable character first and a lady second. The same argument can be said about another female character named Sarah Conner in ‘Terminator 2: Judgement Day’.

    Now, how about ‘Black Panther’? I personally enjoyed the movie as I found it entertaining. It did not matter that the movie had a black main character or that it portrayed an advanced society of black people. The reasons why I was not bothered at all were because the portrayal was pretty good and, another VERY important fact to take note of, the plot elements actually respected the source material which is the original comics. As “controversial” as it may sound, changing the gender or race of important characters risks DISRESPECTING the source material and must therefore be done with great care and respect. A good example of a movie which changes the gender or race of important characters without effectively ruining the story is ‘Dr. Strange’ which portrays the Ancient One as a woman instead of a man and Karl Mordo who is a black character in the movie. Before anyone asks, I liked ‘Dr. Strange’ and did not care about the changes in gender or race. Besides, the Cloak of Levitation was an awesome character.

    In the recent movie, ‘Bumblebee’, the main human character was a teenage girl named Charlie Watson but I did not mind that fact at all. What really made me enjoy the movie was how it paid a more respectable homage to the original transformer cartoon series compared to previous movies directed by Michael Bay. Plus, Blumblebee’s antics while he had amnesia were pretty darn funny.

    What about the 2016 reboot of ‘Ghostbusters’? Honestly, I found the movie “watch-able but inferior to the original” at best and I honestly think that my opinion would not have changed even if they used male lead characters to act out the established plot of the movie. For example, I honestly believe that the part of the movie in which Abby Yates and Erin Gilbert went “bonkers with delight” after discovering a malevolent spirit for the first time would not be improved by putting in two male characters in their place. Plus, I found the male receptionist of the remake, Kevin Beckman, an annoying imbecile of a character whom I would still find annoying even if a female character took that role instead. There is only so much good looks can mitigate a character’s idiocy before the said idiocy becomes unbearable regardless of gender or pre-existing medical conditions.

    What of ‘Star Wars: The Last Jedi’? I honestly did not enjoy the film very much. I will leave out arguments about Reys, Kylo Ren, Luke Skywalker and Vice Admiral Amilyn Holdo since a lot of other angry fans have already disparaged their respective portrayals in the movie. Instead, I wish to cover Poe Dameron. In the previous movie, ‘Star Wars: The Force Awakens’, he was portrayed as a pretty okay character. As for his portrayal in ‘Star Wars: The Last Jedi’, he was portrayed as someone who was constantly wrong until he “went woke”. Don’t get me wrong, he definitely messed up in the first part of the movie when he ignored direct orders to retreat to destroy a single enemy ship. However, Vice Admiral Amilyn Holdo did not explain her plan to him while they were retreating from enemy pursuit which made him decide to take his own initiative behind her back. Granted, he was a soldier who was supposed to follow a superior’s command but if she had explained at least part of the plan to him or was willing to listen to him, as opposed to simply dismissing him for his earlier insubordination, she could have prevented a whole lot of issues which happened later in the movie. Instead, the movie gave me the impression that she was supposed to be seen as faultless even though she did not explain the logic of a plan which involved escaping enemy pursuit without fighting back even as the enemy destroyed their vessels one by one. As far as I know, she did not explain the plan to anyone until the last possible minute. To be perfectly fair, both Poe Dameron and Vice Admiral Amilyn Holdo share fault for poor communication but the fact remains that the movie implies that a superior’s word should never be questioned which is not a particularly good theme regardless of gender. A better theme would be that both superior and subordinate can make mistakes and must cooperate with one another through sensibly open communication to ensure effectiveness while at work.

    Long story short, if you really want to defy the whole concept of “Go Woke, Go Broke”, focus on creating likeable characters, interesting stories and inspiring themes first and foremost. All other else, be it gender, race, religion, nationality or sexuality comes second, AT BEST. If you are incapable of putting gender, race, religion, nationality or sexuality aside for the sake of good storytelling, you’ll inevitably get called out for it which would strengthen the concept of “Go Woke, Go Broke”. Also, remaking a well-loved story for the sole purpose of putting in politically correct ideas, even if it means disrespecting the source material to oblivion, will NEVER be viewed as good storytelling by anyone who cares more about the story than the political ideas behind it.

    Edit:

    Before anyone talks about “whitewashing”, let me make it clear that I did not even bother to watch Gods of Egypt or the live-action movie of Avatar, The Last Airbender. That should tell you something about my opinion about the two movies.

  • Dark Scorpion
    Dark Scorpion 3 months ago

    Star Wars hasn't fallen in my book. I dont consider episodes 7 and 8 and SOLO canon whatsoever so i'm fine loving my Empire, clone Wars and old republic. There's plenty in those timelines for me to explore... this is my personal opinion and choice so whoever is gonna reply by saying I dont matter and its cannon cause Disney says so can go @#$% Themselves...

  • Monkey Man
    Monkey Man 3 months ago

    To me, no movie series will make me like it more than Star Wars, Star Wars will always be my favorite Movie Series

  • jetairliner spartan
    jetairliner spartan 3 months ago +1

    Now mcu is fading

  • Chistopher R
    Chistopher R 3 months ago

    Marvel appeals to fans, which in turn appeals to everyone else. Star Wars appeals to that pink haired lesbian girl that works at Starbucks down the street.
    That’s why one is failing and one is rising.
    I love Star Wars. And I love marvel. It’s painful for me to see a once amazing and treasured Star Wars universe becoming just another SJW propaganda piece that appeals to 1% of people.
    People don’t go to see movies so they can hear more about what’s clogging up their Facebook newsfeeds everyday. They go to a movie to escape reality for a moment and experience part of an amazing universe they’d never otherwise get to see.
    That’s what marvel gets. That’s what Disney absolutely does not get.

  • Hibonbon
    Hibonbon 3 months ago +3

    Infinity War and The Last Jedi did the same thing. They subverted our expectations. The only difference between the two is that, Infinity War did it right. The Last Jedi did not.

  • Dee Banks
    Dee Banks 3 months ago

    I'm not tired of Star Wars... I'm tired of bad Star Wars movies.

  • TovenOvideoRPC
    TovenOvideoRPC 3 months ago

    Rian Johnson has the most punchable face I have ever seem

  • TovenOvideoRPC
    TovenOvideoRPC 3 months ago

    It almost seems like Disney wanted to destroy Star Wars on purpose so the MCU can stay at the absolute top of it's game.

  • Kaleb Barbour
    Kaleb Barbour 3 months ago +2

    Winter soldier was the movie that had to shake the MCU up

  • Mattox Lemley
    Mattox Lemley 3 months ago +1

    I am a HUGE! Star Wars fan. and when I say huge I mean MASSIVE! but it breaks my heart to realize that I am not excited for episode IX. when the Force Awakens came out I had a few problems with it like it's lack of originality but the bottom line was I LOVE STAR WARS, and I was super freaking excited for the new trilogy. And then the Last Jedi came out and I was disappointed. I still don't really know how I feel about it on a lot of levels, some days I think its fine and others its ruined the franchise. But the reason it doomed the sequals for me was becouse It dident build momentum and did not feel like it built off the previous film. going into episode nine we dont even have a palpaple Idea of what the stakes are. We're in the second movie now, I really don't think that IX will be able to pull the franchise out of decline. ever since I began to develop fatigues with The Force Awakens I've been waiting for a savior film, a "Chosen one" and just like Anakin it's backfired and seemingly destroyed OUR Star Wars and divided the fandom. A big part of the Last Jedi is that the Galaxy has given up. In the words of Princess Leia "We've run out of hope"
    I'm gonna go buy some death sticks.

  • Ben Sebastian
    Ben Sebastian 4 months ago

    Huh, u guys jinxed it! Captain Marvel will destroy the MCU all on its own!

  • darth hrongl
    darth hrongl 4 months ago

    I loved the prequels

  • Cisco4kid1990
    Cisco4kid1990 4 months ago

    I always thot it was funny Dinsey said people have star wars fatigue when Marvel makes like 2 movies a year and yet people still watch every single movie over and over again maybe its cuz some people go to the movies once a month and most people go once a year and if its a great movie your going to see it more than once period but nope its cuz we are fatigued lmao wtf yea making movies take longer to come out is the answer to fixing the fans who don't like what they are paying for smh how dumb is that

  • Cisco4kid1990
    Cisco4kid1990 4 months ago

    I only like Poe in all of star wars today o and the rouge one characters

  • Cisco4kid1990
    Cisco4kid1990 4 months ago

    I LOVED THE PREQUELS

  • Cisco4kid1990
    Cisco4kid1990 4 months ago

    like Downey Jr said they listens to the fans and made it better vs fighting with the fans and taking shit too them

  • Nice Guy
    Nice Guy 4 months ago

    Bc they didn't make several movies with the main character as a mary sue.

  • SF TIGERSHOT
    SF TIGERSHOT 4 months ago +1

    You can't really compare the two. I also wouldn't say the rise or fall, that's so trying to sell it. Marvel has always been on top with spiderman, X-Men comics and blockbusters since at least 1998 eaely 2000s, while star wars was doing it's thing then also with the release of episode 1 2 and prior films, both as equally respectable.
    Recently yes star wars sucks balls but you can't put a statement on something like that. Making it seem like it'll be abolished, never to make another film again sort of shit. It's missleading. Stars wars simply needs Lucas back. Or just get rid of Disney, let them make kids movies.
    Abrams just doesn't understand that, sometimes the obvious is better then complicated, snoke theory's, Reys origins etc.. so many other issues also.

    • Mike Dasik
      Mike Dasik 3 months ago

      It's not about Disney. Marvel is Disney too and many franchises are Disney today.
      It's about the people who create the franchise.
      Kathleen Kennedy and Ryan Johnson care more about their own agendas than about Star Wars. As the video said, they don't have even plan. That's manager problem. Not "Disney" problem.
      Same could be said about DC (but at least Zack Snyder had some plan at first; very bad plan, but still). And DC is Warner Bros.

  • JDangerBoy
    JDangerBoy 4 months ago +1

    Just scrolling down these comments. They are so sad, yet so true. Us Fans is the only way to save Star Wars. We need to save it before it is too late.

  • RandomPersonStuff *Numbers*

    UR MUM GAY

  • AF
    AF 4 months ago

    Marvel is the new king sadly, not to say they don’t deserve it but Star Wars should be to

  • Sourav Ghosh
    Sourav Ghosh 4 months ago

    They should reboot star wars now and find a person like kevin fiege to guide the star wars universe in the future

  • Fuck this Life
    Fuck this Life 4 months ago

    Bitch its OVER star wars is wayyyyy better

  • eisfresh
    eisfresh 4 months ago

    I have a feeling Captain Marvel/Avengers End Game is going to slow down the MCU. Captain Marvel is going to be very polarizing

    • Mike Dasik
      Mike Dasik 3 months ago

      It depends how they'll portray her. If she is cool and has understandable motivations, then people will like her. If she only cares about being political and strong female character, then yes, fans will be pissed.

  • Rachel&John Hyatt
    Rachel&John Hyatt 4 months ago

    Disney owns both of them.

  • Aratron
    Aratron 4 months ago

    wait to see captain marvel the last jedi of MCU

    • Aratron
      Aratron 3 months ago

      +The Man im not anymore fan of starwars also you will see the grave is already digged....

  • Austin Johnsen
    Austin Johnsen 4 months ago

    Can you imagine how horrifying it would be if KK was president of Marvel? Black Widow would almost certainly be the Mary Sue lead since she is kinda the stoic tough girl and she would be the the one to use Thor’s hammer.

  • Raunak Tripathi
    Raunak Tripathi 4 months ago

    MARVEL RULES!!!!!

  • Jithin R
    Jithin R 4 months ago

    Ten years ago people knew Wolverine prof x Magento fantastic 4

  • Jeep Groove
    Jeep Groove 4 months ago

    Just imagine Tony Stark being treated like Luke Skywalker. Tony is being handed the Iron Man suit, being called to battle to save man kind one again. Nah, just gonna milk a sea cow and trash the suit. Old things just need to die. How do they not get it at a Lucasfilm?

  • Kyle Jett
    Kyle Jett 4 months ago

    I'm definitely going to disagree with you when you say that MCU doesn't talk about politics and neither should Star Wars.. MCU talks about politics all the time, but they fit it into the plot better. Star wars was poorly written and apparently it stood out to people more, but both movies do it.. hell all movies have social commentary about our current day in some form. That's just how art works.

    • Mike Dasik
      Mike Dasik 3 months ago +1

      He didn't say that.
      He said that Marvel CAN talk about politics because the movies happen in our real world (with some additions like superpowers).
      Star Wars are in galaxy in far far away, they shouldn't discuss real life politics.

  • potawatadingdong
    potawatadingdong 4 months ago

    Marvel is capitalizing on what makes it great while Star Wars is trying to destroy it.

  • sinistar99
    sinistar99 4 months ago

    Star Wars is 40+ years old. The MCU is like 10 years old. "Why is one franchise getting stale while the other is not durrr I can't put my finger on it... Must be Disney's fault.." Cauae you know Lucas took it in a direction that was universally loved right?
    To quote Yoda "When 900 years you reach, look as good you will not." Lets see if in 30 years the MCU is still pumping out the hits.

    • sinistar99
      sinistar99 3 months ago

      "20 movies"
      ... in ONLY ten years with the same actors playing the same characters that are still central to the stories. Yes it IS about how old they are. These aren't the same stories about the same people. It's 40 years old. You can't compare the MCU to the STAR WARS franchise they're very different things. In 30 more years do you expect an octoginarian Robert Downy Jr to hobble into his Iron Man suit or what? 40 is a lot more than 10.
      Luke is older in TFA than Obi Wan was in A New Hope. You know, Obi Wan who like Yoda went off by himself and lived as a hermit and did nothing while the galaxy went all to hell and the Emperor rose to power... Obi Wan who FAILED his pupil and lost him to the Dark side...
      Gosh they "Ruined his character." lol

    • Mike Dasik
      Mike Dasik 3 months ago

      MCU has 20 movies.
      SW has 8 + 2 spinoffs... It's not about how old they are.

  • Bijuu Tamer
    Bijuu Tamer 4 months ago +1

    Fast forward to today
    "I'm not going to help your universe.
    I'm going to end it"

  • Alfred
    Alfred 4 months ago

    Star Wars turned in to a SJW wet dream. Girl power bullshit, token black guy can take on Sith Lord, bad guy is a whiney emo bitch. Not to mention the first new one felt like a horrible remake of the original... Oh look another death star. 😂

  • Phil Vaive
    Phil Vaive 4 months ago

    The Last Jedi made 934 million in box office receipts within I think about 3 weeks. It's one of the highest grossing movies of all time. Just because you don't like women and black people in movies doesn't mean that other people don't.

    • Mike Dasik
      Mike Dasik 3 months ago

      Holdo was bad character, not because she was woman. But because she was arrogant and stupid. If she was clever and good leader, she could become new beloved character. The actress is very likeable, I think. But her role was awful.

  • Ascendaeus
    Ascendaeus 4 months ago

    I was Surprised to find 3rd wave Feminism in a Galaxy far far Away...

  • Sequentially Compact
    Sequentially Compact 4 months ago

    Marvel is winning because the writers and creators embrace the vastness and endless variety of its universe. Star Wars is losing because the writers and creators deleted the vastness and endless variety of its universe to pack everything into a tiny snowglobe representation of its universe.

  • Michael Matherne
    Michael Matherne 4 months ago

    I'm gonna say something that's probably going to get a lot of hate: the Star Wars universe was always kind of limited. By Return of the Jedi, it was already in rehash territory. It had two good stories to tell: the destruction of the ultimate superweapon, and the redemption of Vader, and then it was done. It even had to rehash the ultimate superweapon part to fill up three movies.
    Marvel has a much richer, far less limited universe.

  • Narwolf
    Narwolf 4 months ago +1

    Most people seem to be divided between loving the Force Awakens, and hating the Last Jedi, or loving the last Jedi and hating the Force Awakens. Am I the only person who can't stand either of them?
    For goodness sake, you've got an enormous universe full of space wizards and millions of different unique cultures with different mythologies and ways of utilizing the Force, and the best story you can come up with is a rehash of "the rebels have to take down the evil empire?" Really? I'm sick of it, let's go somewhere new and tell a new story!

    • Mike Dasik
      Mike Dasik 3 months ago

      *standing ovation*
      Exactly! I have never understood why they don't focus on another story.
      (But I didn't have TFA, I like New Hope, I liked this movie too.)

  • sengiko
    sengiko 4 months ago

    Star Wars Theory: fine, I’ll do it myself

  • speedy lewder
    speedy lewder 4 months ago

    Now it both

  • ForlZ David
    ForlZ David 4 months ago

    Well marvel is falling too, after Avengers 4

    • Mike Dasik
      Mike Dasik 3 months ago

      After Avengers 4, they'll have movies about Spider-Man and Doctor Strange, beloved characters... They won't fall soon.

  • Nick Siegfried
    Nick Siegfried 4 months ago

    Disney star wars is like white trash winning the lottery. They blow all the money on things like a mansion and expensive cars, not realizing they actually need to make payments on them. The MCU is like someone who is smart and invested their money over a long term period and actually became wealthy

  • Hello There
    Hello There 4 months ago

    simple

    Star Wars pre-disney was good because George Lucas was crazy! He didn't make the movies out of money, he did it out of love. Disney sees Star Wars and an opportunity to get money, and I'm sure it wouldn't have been as good as pre-disney Star wars, but it'd be decent had they picked someone other than Kathleen to lead the way

  • Gutfried Von Guttenberg

    Marvel is Marvel and is good on it
    But Disney Star Wars now trys to be Marvel as well and fails, because they don´t know how exactly to do it and most importantly, they are not meant to be Marvel, the fans don´t want that and they cant do both
    While Marvel is growing up and learning from it´s mistakes, Disney Star Wars is going back to from where Marvel begun
    Disney is trying really hard to build up a Franchise as strong as the Marvel one and is copying their Franchise-management and don´t focus on what they are, while Marvel already got their franchise and is now focusing (at least more than before) making better film to hold it
    It would have been easy to for Disney Star Wars to be good, but they didn´t trusted the old franchise compared to Marvel, removed and changed too many things while they didn´t know how to rebuild what they destroyed; and they are to ignorant to change their strategy

    • Mike Dasik
      Mike Dasik 3 months ago

      +Gutfried Von Guttenberg I don't agree with not being likeable. Even Vader was likeable in some way. Thanos too. Joker too. They are fan favorites.

    • Gutfried Von Guttenberg
      Gutfried Von Guttenberg 3 months ago

      +Mike Dasik Marvel still can afford that the main characters just forget things again or decide that they don´t want to use it immediately, but later or not in it´s strongest form
      That´s how these movies work, otherwise there wouldn´t be a real fight, just some guy attacking first
      And a good character doesn´t have to be likeable
      The best characters are designed to be comprehensibl and not to be your favorite
      But of cause if you want to run a franchise, your characters need fans

    • Mike Dasik
      Mike Dasik 3 months ago

      +Gutfried Von Guttenberg
      The main problem is that Marvel is hero-based franchise. Their heroes are the most important thing they have. The villains and plots are there only to push the heroes forward, so they would learn something new. Marvel heroes are always likeable, more or less relatable, and you wish that they'd win, you root for them.
      New Star Wars killed all of their main and beloved characters too soon. The new ones are not much popular yet and they're far less likeable.
      And what's interesting, MCU has become better space opera movie franchise than Star Wars.

    • Gutfried Von Guttenberg
      Gutfried Von Guttenberg 4 months ago

      and one last thing: Marvel understands that they are a Super-Hero-Genere, but Disney Star Wars trys to be it´s very own Genre
      They don't focus what is special about their Genre as a relative realistic Sifi which is able to tell great storys, in stead they do...what every you want to call that ***

  • Wesley Toehay
    Wesley Toehay 4 months ago

    Once again, you have perfectly captured the public’s thoughts about the terrible direction Star Wars is headed.

  • Kebabmannen 365
    Kebabmannen 365 4 months ago

    I have a confession, @4:38 trigger me alot.
    Good day folks!

  • Parker Brown
    Parker Brown 4 months ago

    It's true Disney is killing star wars

  • Parker Brown
    Parker Brown 4 months ago

    Back in the day people would say their favorite marvel heroes were Spiderman, wolverine, and the incredible hulk. I think they were the most popular and recognizable. Nowadays people recognize most of the average avengers. I think that is pretty Awesome. But I am a little sad that star wars is dying. Well, at least for me it is...

  • Shut Up
    Shut Up 4 months ago +1

    Thanos snapped and wiped away Star Wars and DC

  • The Geeky Realms
    The Geeky Realms 4 months ago

    Also, Marvel Studios literally listen to and Incorporated to big fan theories the first being that the kid saved by Tony Stark in Iron Man 2 was in fact Peter Parker and the second one being Stan Lee is a watcher or working with the Watchers and it's the same character in all the movies. Compare that with Star Wars where they have removed the EU and novels and everything the fans loved from canon while also ignoring fan favorite characters like Ahsoka

  • Raust Zachery
    Raust Zachery 4 months ago

    in 10 more years the roles will be reversed again.

  • Paul Schuster
    Paul Schuster 4 months ago

    Nailed it. Subscribed!

  • Awesometastic
    Awesometastic 4 months ago

    Star Wars will continue to flounder as long as Rey, Queen of the Mary Sue, is a model for women.

  • Surviveme today
    Surviveme today 4 months ago

    Yes, I understand what you're saying here.