You can buy an Aston Martin FOR LESS than a Toyota Camry, BUT SHOULD YOU?

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I think Tyler should go out on a limb and actually buy a fully loaded Camry and review it since it is the baseline for every car purchase he has ever made…ever.

I owned a 2009 DB9 for about a year and half and can back up pretty much everything Hoovie says here. I think a big part of the depreciation is how journalists either miss the point of the car or get it all completely wrong.
The running costs aren't bad at all, it was actually the cheaper of the cars that I've owned and they're fairly reliable. The only recurring issue I had was the tail lights, they have this tendency to gather moisture and mess up the electronics inside so you need to replace the whole thing. Both of mine ended up failing, they're about $600 used.
It handles like a big fat pig and isn't really super fast and the trunk is pretty small but none of that is the point. The car is great for all of the reasons that are hard to put on paper. When you open the door and after 12 whole years you're still greeted with a strong waft of leather. When you look at the gauges and they're gorgeous glass needles on a brushed aluminum face instead of a tacked on iphone screen. When you drive around and find that everyone around you loves the car and you get absolutely no negativity. It's things such as these that make the car truly stand out from pretty much everything else on the market.
The idea that year for year, these are about the same price as a base tiptronic 911 is a concept I will never be able to wrap my head around, although I hope it stays that way because I want to pick up one of the new vanquishes at some point in the future.

I love how excited and proud Tyler is when he finds a car that isnt leaking from everywhere, on a car that only has 25k on it.

In my opinion, the DB9 is one of the most beautiful cars ever made.. in the wooorld.. 😏 Such a timeless and clean design!

bought a '07 vantage coupe w/11,000 miles on it for about $48,000 a couple years ago. it wasn't a particularly good deal, but since have driven it about 9,000 miles (once from california to ohio and back) without much more than normal maintenance (which i can do myself for toyota prices). no regrets.
and i think i DO understand why they are so inexpensive as a used car. if one is the type to take their cars to dealerships every time the check engine light or other warning light shows up on the dashboard, well.... you'll understand why they are so cheap. the true aston replacement parts (the only kind the dealership's service centers will install) are truly astontronomical. the very same thermostat that ford uses on their F150 is the same one that is used on my aston, but aston puts in their box with the aston label on it and charges about ten times the price. this is not an exaggeration.

Good review as always fella. I can shed some light on deprecation values, and you missed some huge points anyone wanting to buy a secondhand AM must understand. I’ve been lucky enough to own many cars from Porsche Targa’s, a DB7 also a DB9 and Ferrari plus others new and secondhand.
The DB7 was a beautiful looking car. At the time AM was owned by FORD. The car had a lot of very visible cheap end FORD parts like indicator switches, wipers and aircon knobs. In fact, once noticed you start to see FORD everywhere. The car had a supercharger and was gorgeous to drive fast in a straight line, 140mph not a problem. The Targa approaching that speed saw the front end become light and steering nonexistent. The DB7 had loads of leg room making it an ideal GT. Your opening was spot on you don’t own an AM to do a track day. And in my opinion its major marketing flaw post DB7.
AM focused on performance stats against Merc, BMW, Porsche etc. This meant shorter and shorter wheel base, lighter and a more compact vehicle so the models could push higher top end speeds. AM turned the DB range into sports cars and not GTs. The DB9 with bespoke luggage cost me GBP112k new. Vast improvement over the 7 obviously. The cockpit was all bespoke knobs, the sat-nav was old Merc tech though. Everything appeared fine until you start doing longer journeys. Any DB9 owner will agree here, you start hitting your knees on side panels and your legs are bent. Elbows the same, its not relaxing, it wants you to race her. If that makes sense? The car is uncomfortable compared to the DB7.
The Porsche 997 Targa was serviced twice a year GBP2k max. She was very cheap to maintain and reliable. The DB7 was a different story and this you failed to tell your viewers. General service four times a year GBP8k at least. Every time she went into the AM Service Centre she’d come out with a new problem. Shock absorbers, there are six and if one’s light they all need changing. The air condition system when it worked was a joke. It genuinely got to the point I’d only drive it at weekends and then prey nothing would go wrong with it. It was a hand-built car with shocking reliability, but looked beautiful. My advice for DB7 cheap to buy, but factor in a high upkeep cost. In the end I’d say they are fairly priced, not cheap.
The DB9 was infinitely more reliable, but again expensive to service. My car actually went up in value at first due to the waiting list. However, within six months that was all gone and AM received massive customer complaints of 30% devaluation levels driving it out of the showroom. The reason for this was AM new sports car focus. My GBP112k car looks overpriced compared to a Targa mid GBP70k or BMW M3 or even a GT3. And that’s problem, they look stunning but reliable top end performance sucked for the outlay. They were competing in a different market instead of focusing on what AM are good at. Rolls Royce I don’t believe advertise their cars top end speed and rightly so.
Subsequent AM models get better with the DBS and DB11, but they’ve had to move to a more production line system to increase reliability and use out sourced Merc engines. AM Finance means any starting out banker can afford one. The brands style and exclusivity as suffered. You see AM everywhere now...
I loved my cars genuinely and looking back on them fondly they remind me of that old girlfriend. A great ride with lots of baggage, great memories but glad I’ve moved on!
Sorry for the length

The "thing to play with" can hold your toll ticket and your bank card to easily pay toll fees. It's actually a clever design.

Ive owned both of these cars in the last few years. I went backwards from a DB9 Sports Pack to the DB7 Vantage Volante, for just the same reason Hoovie said - old world comfort and vintage feel. Both cars have their problems though;
The DB9 - Good stuff: rock solid build quality, beautiful paint, deceptively simple construction so you can DIY service and repair it with a modicum of skill, the auto box is slick, its reasonably fast, and the reaction from other drivers and kids was very positive, people would jump out and shoot cameraphone videos. I would jump in and drive to Italy tomorrow, an ideal daily driver.
The DB9 Bad stuff: Unfortunately a lot more....yes its solidly built, but to the point of discomfort. The seats adjust all ways but never quite right; in my GT Aston had listened to idiot journailsts and stiffened it far too much so the steering column vibrated in your hands over rough roads, the awful Bridgerock tyres made things worse (change to Michelins Hoovie), it was noisy, the stupid startup exhaust made it embarrassing when you just wanted a pint of milk at the shops, the stupid engine/box layout meant the driver was sitting where the rear passengers should be (I felt like Dick Dastardly), the rear seats are a bad joke, the dreadful puch button gear selection was slow and awkward, the dashboard was designed by a non-driver as being white-on-silver could not be read in daylight, the radio controls were dreadful, but not as bad as the heater which pumped hot air at your face......I could go on. Suffice to say it lasted barely 2 years with me, one of which was spent trying to sell it. Yes, no-one wanted a 27000 mile AM that looked as good as the day it was made for £37k
The DB7 Good Stuff - I think it looks nice (though not all agree), its comforatble, quiet, unobtrusive, the parts are still easy to find as AM has all the stolen bits the original makers forgot about, its reasonably fast, and just feels nice to be in and around.
The DB7 Bad stuff - this is where it gets subjective and where most would bale to the 9.....the auto box feels awfull, prehistoric actually, and linked to the ancient Salisbury diff makes it really revvy at motorway speeds, and it GUZZLES fuel. There are several afflictions which appear to affect all cars; vacuum leaks, EGR sticky bits, plugs and coils, and fuel pumps are the major ones, plus its tough on its Fred Flintstone suspension joints. Overall it feels like an old finicky car best left to a specialist. Its doenst even have proper modern jacking points for Christs sake. Overall I dont feel like I could jump in and drive to Italy, without some really good breakdown insurance and a bottomless wallet for fuel.
And yet out of the 2 I still prefer the 7. To me the original DB9 looks worse every day, its slab sided, nose heavy, and has shallow windows. What I should have done is save more buy a post 2012 DB9 with the adaptive suspension, better chassis plates (yes those things underneath are structural), and the best bodywork revamp this century. Or even better just wait for a Rapide S to depreciate a little more.

5:38 Lexus still builds a car that provides this exact experience and it's called the LC 500. You also get an amazing mechanical symphony as part of the deal and a car that looks like they took the concept straight to production. Because they did. One of the most soulful cars you can buy yet no one is buying them. Those not buying them now will be shocked when they are double the value in the future.

The bonding machine at the Aston Martin factory is of course called "James Bonding" by the workers.

I've always loved the AMs, especially the V8 Vantage and DB9. Looks like the DB9 is the better car. I'd love to drive through my remaining years on earth in one. The search starts now. Thanks Hoovie, you rule!

Bought a 25k 2007 DB9 with the "sports pack" a couple years ago for $93k, could probably sell it for $110k now (in Australia). 2007 is the sweet spot just before the interior upgrade but late enough to have all the kinks worked out and all the options fitted as standard such as the metal knobs on the dash, heated seats, perforated leather etc. The sports pack added the upgraded 5 spoke wheels with titanium lug nuts, uprated springs and dampers and a solid aluminium underbody even more extensive than the one in Hoovie's for additional stiffness. I have a couple of blown dampers too though, the Multimatic ones had a design flaw where the seals leaked, I think from 2008 they replaced them with Bilstein's. They're a good $1500 each unfortunately.

I feel like I am in an alternate universe where Tyler actually buys a good car for a great price. Love it

Tyler, keep grinding my man…. Your TheXvid Channel is pure entertainment and can’t miss…. Thank you….

I love watching Hoovie & car wizard but I highly suspect any DB9 at Camry price tag has missed every maintenance schedule or has numerous other issues.

That’s a terrible paint match on the front bumper on the convertible, definitely been replaced

I love Tyler and love watching all of his videos. But recently it seems that the channel has leaned to being a channel about sports cars only. We didn't even see him drive the Fleetwood after it was finished; he sold it. I really loved the videos from the first 2 seasons so much! They were very entertaining and focused on large cars that needed rescued or repaired. I hope the channel migrates towards the original premise from a few years ago..............don't get me wrong, I will still watch. He is a great personality! So much better than anything on TV!

The DB9 is definitely my favorite modern Aston Martin. I'd definitely own one if I could find a decent one near me at a decent price.

the way the suspension is made it looks like you could remake it in your garage without much issue its just some round and square tube with a little flatbar splashed in. the axle shafts look like something any decent driveline shop could make with parts on hand. the real problem with these cars is finding someone to work on them for a reasonable rate

Just signed up to see your show, and already binge watched all of S1. Can't wait to do the same for S2!

8:55 It looks like the rear disc brakes were moved out to the wheels. I had a 1986 Jaguar XJS with the rear disc brakes at the differential and when the engine leaked (as it did often), the oil would blow back onto the rear brakes but the rear suspension looks like the XJS

Funny car wizard kept calling those rear axles "CV" axles, but what's interesting about those old school axles (also called "wheel drive shafts") is that they are NOT CV's (constant velocity), they are variable velocity because they use u-joints. So the axle changes velocity depending on the phase angle, so if the camber was out for example, the u-joint phases would not be able to cancel each other out and the wheel would slightly speed up and slow down every time it made a rotation. But like wizard said, they are also cool because they are pretty tough!

I have just replaced the rear dampers on my DB9 so, if your sitting down, I can tell you they are £675 each for the OEM Aston Martin part. A totally unjustifiable amount, however, I fitted them myself and they are actually very easy to install. The struts drop out after removing only 5 bolts. Refurbished the entire rear brake system at the same time with new discs, pads, pins & clips and finialy a new hand brake cable. Really enjoyed getting to know thew Aston better through undertaking the work and being a 'modern' design they are easy to work on. I would encourage everyone to get stuck in and do some spannering its a great way to bond with your car.

12:50 I think the depreciation has a bit to do with the crossover between car collectors and track enthusiasts now. People have found out how easy it is to get involved with local groups & honestly, I can't blame them. If you're going to get a modern(ish) sports car having the flexibility to be able to go to a track with it and drive it hard or just cruise around in the summer is super tempting.

Aston Martin's have always been cheap second hand. I remember when my dad had a (reasonably posh) company car and was worth (in the early 80s) more than twice as much as a used DBS. Same as other cars, my neighbour in 1980 had an e-type probably only worth 2k and dads company Ford Granada was retailing at around 8k. I bought an integrale 8v in 1998 for 5k and sold for 3k, now its 20k car, I bought an evo2 in 2007 for 11k and now worth 60+. DB7 was basically a Jaguar XJS and a clean XJS will go for similar money to a DB7.

My grandfather had several Aston Martin's, including a DB5, in his life. The only ones I remember are the 71 and 79 DBS V8s that he owned from the 70s until the early 2000's. He didn't drive them much after the 80s. When he did drive them in the early 90s they'd break down and finding people to work on them was hard. He once offered to send mechanic that worked for the garage that maintained his company's vehicles to England to learn how to work on them. They sat for 10 years and he wouldn't let me, my brother or our cousin do anything with them. He sold them in 2002 for $20k each, not running. I would guess that my grandfather didn't put 5k miles on either car in the decades that he owned them.

Love seeing the underside of the DB7 vs the DB9. Great cars, I hope you keep them for a while :D

I agree that car reviews based on track performance are rather irrelevant to the majority of car buyers. Why they often leave out comfort and practicality is beyond me...

Both cars were done by Ian Callum, the design genius, but the DB9 was finished off by Fisker, and same with the Vantage of that era too. The engineering of the original Vanquish was done by Lotus, but they went hugely over budget and delays so for the DB9 Dr Bez came up with the VH platform. The idea being that they could make cars sharing the same fundamental platform which could stretch in length, wheelbase, and width. Thereby allowing for the Rapide, DB9, DBS and Vantage to share expensive castings for the suspension mounts etc. That means you don't have the same problems you highlighted with the Z8 only recently as those parts are far far strong than it's suspension mounts. Yes, many parts from Ford but that gives two advantages, firstly they're inexpensive, secondly tested and developed to a higher standard than Aston could have so you get better reliability.

Tyler should make more POV drives to the wizards or when he’s reviewing his cars

I've always favorited the db9 and the vantages, the question is, where do you find them? Dealers and locals usually only carry porsches, bmws and benz

I've always been a big fan of the DB7. I think it's the fact that most people overlook it attracts me to the car. Even when it was new.

The new Camry's look great tho, I'm constantly doing a double take when I see them

The DB9 looks great and that engine just sounds sweet, please just replace the wheels as it would transform the car.

I've always wanted a DB9, such a good looking car! But I can't decide if sell my 2011 S6 with 75k miles for a newer S6 and do the RS7 turbo upgrade, or get a nice low mileage DB9 like yours..

I love Aston Martin, unfortunately I probably will never own one. I would be happy with an 8cly version 2008 or a 2011 V8 Vantage. I could probably do most of the maintenance myself so those costs wouldn't scare me away. I have found a lot of Brit Luxury/exotics tend to depreciate a lot. My last three cars were Jaguars one I leased so i won't count that really but my 98 XJ8L cost me 5K and was mint. I put in a wheel bearing and an Alternator in the 6 years i had it. That got stolen and wrecked. I used the insurance money to buy a 03 VDP for 7K low miles mint condition originally had a 75K sticker. Had that for the last 7 years and all I did was an alternator new battery and I broke part of the rear suspension hitting a pot hole really hard but the parts cost nothing. My next car will probably be another Jag but most likely an XK Coupe 2007 to 2011. Closest I'll get to an Aston Martin I guess.

When underneath the DB9 they should have pointed out the chassis is a stiff alloy space frame. Along with the protection from the alloy trays, these cars are well protected from rust. The alloy suspension arms reduce un-spring weight to good effect.

I always see myself owning one of these cars eventually in my life. I'm glad they're not appreciating!

Seems strange that the brakes are that worn on a DB9 with only 25k miles. I'm used to easily getting 50+ thousand on the front pads and twice that on the rear of almost any modern car.

When my grandfather passed away I inherited an old antique reflecting the oldest technology known to humanity that I'm still able to use to this day - A Hammer. Remarkably, it works just as good, if not better than modern high-priced hammers.

Let’s just say that the used car market prices Astons very efficiently.

1:43 "i bought this db9 with $25,000 for $38,000" thats a hell of a deal

Just started watching Car Issues Season 1 Ep 1 with the Audi S6 V10. Hearing Tyler say that a $13,000 Audi was the closest he’s ever been to owning a Lamborghini really shows how far he’s come in just a few years since Daddy Doug helped kickstart this awesome automotive masochist’s channel.

You got me!!! I can spare $6 for six months to watch More of you and The Wizard on Car issues. :-)

I own a 1980s Jaguar XJ-S. The underside of the DB7 is definitely an old Jag, except they seem to have put some cross bracing below the front and rear suspension to make it even harder to work on! I wonder if that's only a feature of convertible DB7s.

As a 74 year old man I would gladly embrace a beautiful 3" Aston Martin

the Aston Rapide was one of my favorite cars he owned.

9:58 I love how back then, Aston used Volvo's chime for their cars too. Gotta love Ford.

Besides the viper..the Aston Martin db9 would be my second dream car

They should have made that thing next to where the shifter used to go deeper for those long road trips.

Let it be known that it’s Hoovies fault when they’re both worth 6 figures next month 😂

I want one. I would love a DB9 even. I bought my 2019 S550 Mustang GT because it reminded me of an Aston Martin in its styling.

The DB9(S) is just one of the best looking cars ever.

How reasonable are spare parts for these though? I know a lot of the engine bits are interchangeable with the ford i6 of the time but are things like struts, pads, rotors etc affordable enough to make it worthwhile? I guess anything comparable to the maintenance of an s-class Mercedes or a BMW 6 series would be acceptable.

Awesome cars. Is it me or is the bumper cover on the db7 a totally different colour from the rest of the car

What beautiful, super value cars - probably wont stay that way for long, as people catch on.

I'm a huge fan of your videos. I had no idea an A M could be so affordable. The rubber slot you are so interested in located on the center console is actually a "slot" to hold your cell phone secure.

I’m glad they depreciate so much. I’m looking to pick up a used Valkyrie for $10

A mid-level Camry is $40K now? Damn...I remember when the Lexus LS & SC 400's were that price, back in the 90's.

Nice cars! Interesting to see that the DB7 has almost the same instrument cluster as my 91 Jaguar Sovreign XJ40. It is probably exactly the same, but with a different skin.

NOTHING rides or has the beautiful handling of that XJ suspension set up. It makes me weep every time i get in a new Jag/Aston /german car how they have lost that ability to cruise at speed in total smooth comfort. Harden the suspension, widen the track, put big low profile tyres on any car and you can make it handle like a track car; but attaining the XJ ride quality takes real art and engineering. I've had all sorts of cars sporty fast and luxury and nothing beats an 80s XJ/xjs set up.. with a lot more power; hence a DB7 GT manual. It maybe antediluvian but it works

Hoovie has that rare combo of being a car guy and Star Trek fan. That Sulu "Shields! Shields!" Impression from Star Trek VI at 14:20 was really good.

Every friday when I get done watching torque test channel I know there's going to be a Hoovie to watch.

Is it true these cost $10k a year to maintain? That would be a good reason for low price, as is the case for many used European luxury vehicles.

It’s simple. They depreciate because they were NEVER worth the msrp.

The Vanquish never gets any love and it's by a mile my favorite Aston Martin.

Considering how much this era of Aston Martins consisted of Ford parts - including the engine - it's not a real mystery why they depreciate. Also, it shares its chassis and overall design with the Jaguar XK series so again this doesn't make it unique, however, there is no denying that they are some of the most beautiful cars ever made.

I disagree with hoovie @5:58 the SL was historically a sports car its even in the name Sport Leicht (SL), the car had lost its way for the past 58 years. Aside from the SL73 , SL60 , and SL65 Black series the SL hasn't been truly sporty in decades. Let the modern SL return to its roots.

V12 Astons will climb up nicely once Aston will make their dumb choices going EV
I was happy I got to take ours DB9 when I did my driver test. Lad who tested me was enjoying car more than test itself
My dad was more nervous than me when he agreed to this

My neighbor had a db9 and honestly one of the best sounding cars!

I like Hoovie. He makes me happy.

Thumbs up for the comment of the trend of building cars more sporty to please journalists testing on a race track. Probably the first thing I want from my luxury car is a comfortable ride on my long daily commute 👍
Give me that powerful smooth take off like a 747, I don't really need to plaster my body on the seat in 3.5 seconds

40k isn't a cheap car in any means! 5k is. I know, It's top notch and was priced way higher - but it's still almost 20k more, than I could afford for my midlife crisis right now, without tearing my whole savings plan apart. Could I buy it? sure! Could I really afford it? Given it's 40% of my cash lifetime savings - no!

Let it be known that it’s Hoovies fault when they’re both worth 6 figures next month 😂

Kids years later be like: "Dad why can't we afford the University fees?"
Taylor replies:
"Let me tell you a story about a car."

From almost every angle I prefer the looks of that DB7. It's simply stunning. I could never had paint shot at it.

Still my favorite car channel !

After seeing the DB7 from under, I like it more than the newer ones!

The DB9 is still one of the most beautiful modern GT's

Just started watching Season 1 of Car Issues and have to admit that it's a very entertaining show and I enjoy it.
The Wizard and yourself should produce a Wheeler Dealers type show where you buy a car to flip that has some issues, the wizard fixes up the car and then you try to sell the car for a profit and split a percentage of the profits between yourselves (or something to that effect).
The show would probably have to focus mainly on the wizard fixing the issues with the cars, but I believe that with the proper amount of assistance (and comedy relief) from you it could work.
I believe that with the chemistry and fan base that both of you have a show like that would be an instant hit.

These are a solid option. I know a few people who run them with big miles and no drama.

Service requiring the AMDS tool is part of my guess… I still love my Vantage regardless 🥂

Just keep in mind, the rails on the bottom of the car are aluminum and the car should be lifted by the steel rails on the side. Something I learned when I got my V8V. Either way, great buy!

The DB7 really hasn't aged at all well. The DB9 though was a much more serious effort and looks expensive in the way a DB7 just doesn't.

The rear of that DB9 looks great! 😊👌

I would take the Camry and not worry about maintenance bankrupting me. I do love the Goldfinger DB5 -my favorite Bond care ever, but have no illusions of affording one let alone keeping it running.

The DB9 is still one of the most beautiful car ever built

I think the DB9 is one of the most beautiful production cars made since 2000. However, I can think of one great reason these depreciated heavily. Don’t they get like 12 mpg at best?

DB5s are million dollar cars now? I swear I remember looking at them in the late 90s and they were like

I think the aston martin hole you're playing with in the intro is meant for you to take off any rings and place them there. That way you don't scratch up your wheel

Bonded. James Bonded.

Thank you Hoovie, I'll tell my wife you said it was 👍

Judging by the oil staining on the floor, that’s the Hoovie reserved elevator.

Wizard was grinning ear to ear when you pulled into the shop with that Ford Aston.

That’s a very interesting “slot” in the DB9, I suppose you could show your love to the car but only just the tip…

Those Jaguar/Aston Martin DB7s are probably the best bet for buying an older Aston Martin. If you buy the right one, you get the Jaguar 6 cylinder, and the iconic Aston mouth on the front.
Some people think its ugly, but ill take a point on styling, if it means I can enjoy the car more often. Even if its not a "Real" Aston Martin. I've got an older Xk, but the DB7 is the car I really wanted. Still do, so maybe stop telling people how great they are.😂

I'm surprised these cars are so cheap in the States, in Europe I feel like Aston Martin's hold their value much better than other luxury sport cars of the same age.

I think the "Little slit" is for holding your cell phone. Rubber sides keep it from scratching your phone, and holding it so it doesn't rattle or slide around. While keeping it in reach.

Shush!!! You’re going to drive the prices up before I can get one!
I took an XK8 coupe for a test drive in the early 2000’s. I had a 98 C5 Vette at the time. The XK was nice - plenty of power, smooth ride - but once you got it into some twisties, it became apparent how NOT track oriented it was. Also, all of the wood grain everywhere really made it feel like an old man’s car. I assumed the DB7 would be better all around, but they were out of my price range at the time. I’ve been eyeing V8 Vantages lately, as they’re finally dropping into reasonable prices.