Ford Ranger EV EVSE Adapter

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  • Published on Apr 22, 2019
  • 300mpg.org/2019/04/22/electric-truck-charging-adapter/
    I build an adapter so that I can charge a 20 year old electric truck at modern electric car charging stations!
    This Ford Ranger EV uses an AVCON charging port. It turns out that is actually the early form of the J1772 protocol that modern electric cars use! So, I used some parts I had to build and test an adapter to charge the modern way, while keeping the classic truck's charging port stock!
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Comments • 41

  • shawn cell
    shawn cell 2 months ago

    nice job

  • Myron D. Yoder
    Myron D. Yoder 2 months ago

    Wow! This is exciting! While doing some research on the "paddle" type used on the Rav4 EV, I came across the spec you showed, I thought an adapter was possible, but I didn't know it is that easy! That opens up more possibilities of reviving older version EV's and making them usable again!!! Thanks for the video!!! I Love this channel!!

  • Alex Sibila
    Alex Sibila 2 months ago +1

    This is really cool, doing some research for an upcoming video of mine and came across your video!

  • Brett Paynter
    Brett Paynter 2 months ago +1

    Any plans to update the batteries and if so how big are you going to go?

    • BenjaminNelson
      BenjaminNelson  2 months ago

      I'll have a video coming soon about lithium batteries.

  • Matthew Gilbert
    Matthew Gilbert 2 months ago

    Great video Bnejamin. Would it be possible to use a J1772 to charge a DIY electric motorycle? I'm currently using two 85ah 12v lead acid batteries wired in series.

    • BenjaminNelson
      BenjaminNelson  2 months ago

      Yes, I've already charged my electric motorcycle with a J1772 adapter. Read more about that at: 300mpg.org/2015/03/31/the-diy-j1772-charging-adapter/

    • Michael Eric Menk
      Michael Eric Menk 2 months ago

      You can buy adaptors with a 240V female receptacle. You can then connect the leed to the «dumb» charger.

  • Getis Realis
    Getis Realis 2 months ago

    @Benjamin - Great video, appreciate all your dedication to the cause. The lithium battery upgrade you plan on doing, what is your approximate or anticipated range after the upgrade, let's say in summer time temperatures?

    • Getis Realis
      Getis Realis 2 months ago

      @BenjaminNelson Awesome sir, I'll be watching this upgrade very closely. I'm seriously considering finding an extremely little weight vehicle and making good use of your "sage journey"

    • BenjaminNelson
      BenjaminNelson  2 months ago +1

      I have a video coming on a lithium upgrade.

    • Getis Realis
      Getis Realis 2 months ago

      @BenjaminNelson Thanks Ben!

    • BenjaminNelson
      BenjaminNelson  2 months ago +1

      If I just did a simple lithium upgrade right now, it would probably be around a 70 mile range. Best guess, just based on a few rules of thumb and estimated efficiency. Could be more.

  • Joe Jarmoluk
    Joe Jarmoluk 2 months ago +1

    Really cool to see this! It’s amazing that we’re still using the same protocol 20 years later. Crazy to think of what could have been had the technology not been shelved for a decade. The Ranger EV videos on your channel are awesome! I don’t know why but these older EVs are really interesting to me. I look forward to watching more on your channel!

  • Andy Fromm
    Andy Fromm 2 months ago +4

    Why don't you just install a J1772-2009 inlet in the "gas door" ?

    • Andy Fromm
      Andy Fromm 2 months ago

      @BenjaminNelson would you need some different on board charger & battery monitoring if you go lithium? Do you need something special to retrofit to dc charging?

    • BenjaminNelson
      BenjaminNelson  2 months ago

      @Andy Fromm A J1772 Charge connection will always go through the onboard charger to the battery pack. DC Fast Charging (like using a CHAdeMO connection) BYPASSES the onboard charger, allowing for much faster charging.

    • thelondonbroiler
      thelondonbroiler 2 months ago

      @Andy Fromm The car monitors cell voltages and battery temperature sensors, if there is a problem, adjustments in charging speed can be made/communicated, or charging session can be terminated.

    • Andy Fromm
      Andy Fromm 2 months ago

      @thelondonbroiler is there something to make sure the pack is charging evenly & temperature ect.. or is that up to the car to monitor?

    • thelondonbroiler
      thelondonbroiler 2 months ago

      @Andy Fromm You got it. The fast charge station is the charger and the communication device. It talks to the car, sets charge parameters, and with no faults, charging starts. Communication continues throughout the charge to adjust power levels as needed.

  • Brian Martin
    Brian Martin 2 months ago

    Hi Ben, the charging for my RAV was a J1773 system does that help ?

    • Brian Martin
      Brian Martin 2 months ago

      @BenjaminNelson thanks for replying

    • BenjaminNelson
      BenjaminNelson  2 months ago

      No, it doesn't. I still don't have any experience with paddle chargers.

  • Howard's Serenity
    Howard's Serenity 2 months ago +4

    That’s simpler than I thought! With the J-adapter and this warmer weather a road trip is suddenly possible!

  • Brian Martin
    Brian Martin 2 months ago +2

    Hi Ben, I have a 2002 RAV 4 EV with a paddle connector like EV 1 , would i be able to do this J 1772 conversation . The Ranger has a off vehicle charger also like my RAV has. Also I have the nickel hydride batteries , will it charge on the new chargers.

    • Myron D. Yoder
      Myron D. Yoder 2 months ago

      I thought the Rav4 had the j1772 2001 protocol, sorry, my bad, I guess that needs further research...

    • BenjaminNelson
      BenjaminNelson  2 months ago +1

      @gsilva220 The original charging equipment for the truck is very large, heavy, and bulky. I'd rather avoid using it entirely.

    • gsilva220
      gsilva220 2 months ago +1

      Do you still have the original charger for it? If you do, you can put a J1772 car side plug in it, and use some electronics to make a J1772 station power it, and then use it to charge the car. It'll be similar to a J1772 load simulator.

    • BenjaminNelson
      BenjaminNelson  2 months ago +2

      The inductive paddle charge connections used on the EV1 and Rav4 EV are a different system. I don't know what those used to prevent drive-off while plugged in or checking or changing the rate of charge. A person would need to know how those work, compare them to how J1772-2009 works, and then figure out the details of building an adapter. It might be rather complicated, or not. I couldn't tell you simply because I really don't have any experience with the paddle chargers.
      The thing that makes an adapter for the Ford Ranger EV so easy is the fact that it uses the same protocol as is used on all modern EVSEs. It's just different physical connections.

  • Harry Conover
    Harry Conover 2 months ago +2

    It would be appropriate and easy to change the trucks input to Mach the current standards used multiple high current connections is bad pratique for several reasons the biggest is loss at each connection also adapters tend to get lost

  • Randy Eller
    Randy Eller 2 months ago +4

    That ought to simplify things if you extend the range and have to charge up at somewhere other than your house and make it more usable. Great video!

    • BenjaminNelson
      BenjaminNelson  2 months ago +2

      It also simplifies things at home. The EVSE that came with the truck is a heavy and bulky post. Instead of having to use that, I can just use the compact EVSE I use to charge my car.

  • cn 250
    cn 250 2 months ago

    What good is that if you can only go 20 miles on a charge.

    • Dana Olson
      Dana Olson 2 months ago

      Probably didn't occur to you than many people commute less than 5 miles each way to work every day. I drove my Ford Ranger EV to work for many years even when it's battery was below 50% of the new capacity and it had just 25 miles of range. What good is it being able to drive to work every day.

    • BenjaminNelson
      BenjaminNelson  2 months ago +2

      This truck will still be getting a lithium upgrade at some point.
      Even without that, being able to charge in public means potentially doubling whatever the usable range of the vehicle happens to be.