A New Chip From...Microsoft?! (Pluton Explained)

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  • Oli Belus
    Oli Belus 4 months ago +1131

    Can’t wait for the video “Why Microsoft Pluton FAILED” in 10 years lol.

  • Shawn Drew
    Shawn Drew 4 months ago +1246

    I have to imagine the big push for this is going to be DRM.

    • Carewolf
      Carewolf 3 months ago

      @10100rsn No, it is ONLY about DRM. It protects your computer against you. Note the emphasis about protecting against physical attacks. By attack they mean ownership. It protects against ownership of your computer, so you can never own it.

    • Deoxal
      Deoxal 3 months ago

      @Alen Asenie What did I just read. That's not true

    • Fuck You
      Fuck You 3 months ago

      @Alen Asenie lmfao Linux is not more secure when performing the exact same functions.
      Quit lying. It's far far far far far far far less secure. Objectively, factually, undeniably.

    • VirtualShug
      VirtualShug 3 months ago

      No its to lock out other Operating Systems

  • SkyyySi
    SkyyySi 4 months ago +895

    Now we get a proprietary black box from Microsoft directly embedded into the CPU. Great!
    Then again... Intel ME and AMD PSP are... just that, just not made by a company who would have such a big reason to lock people from what they can run.

    • angryadministrator.wordpress.com
      angryadministrator.wordpress.com 3 months ago

      @JhonnyTheJeccer Same, screw microshit!

    • Evan Robertson
      Evan Robertson 4 months ago +1

      Competitive RISC-V processors when? I’m being sincere, because the likes of Spectre and Meltdown should’ve woken people up to such _security-through-obscurity_ BS schemes.

    • John Gangemi
      John Gangemi 4 months ago

      UEFI Secure Boot is another Vendor Lock In "feature".

    • Kevin Nguyen
      Kevin Nguyen 4 months ago +1

      @SkyyySi They use similar technology in the xbox to prevent people from hacking their consoles to play pirated games.

    • John Gangemi
      John Gangemi 4 months ago +3

      It's vendor lock in all the way. Using "security" as a Trojan Horse.

  • Tobias Cuypers
    Tobias Cuypers 4 months ago +499

    So Microsoft wants CPU manufacturers to integrate a component that is only for their OS? Sounds anticompetitive to me

    • Mr. Bizantium
      Mr. Bizantium 4 days ago

      @Dinidu Perera
      Platform Secure Boot, which *RESTRICTS* the CPU to be used only on specific brand/model/SKU

    • AussieEevee
      AussieEevee 3 months ago

      @SujiMayne TPM blocks Linux from being installed.

    • Max Mustermann
      Max Mustermann 3 months ago

      @SujiMayne That's kind of the issue. You are forced to buy a CPU with an integrated product from Microsoft. With Windows you at least have the option to purchase a computer without it. On the other hand, it shouldn't be that much of an actual problem unless it is used to restrict the user in some way.

    • Doge
      Doge 4 months ago

      @SujiMayne all the features of the pluton chip won’t work on linux, only some.

    • William Behrens
      William Behrens 4 months ago

      @James Hayhurst EEE

  • Fiyaaah
    Fiyaaah 4 months ago +430

    Are CPU manufacturers actually onboard with this idea? It's hard to imagine they trust Microsoft to make such a critical hardware component.

    • Nunya Business
      Nunya Business 3 months ago

      Its also hard to imagine them passing up free money by implementing a feature customers will never know even exists

    • RoQe yt
      RoQe yt 3 months ago

      @ben russ that all depends on the route the industry takes really
      CUDA took the MOAR route, wouldn't surprise me if cores did too, especially with chiplets being a thing
      Still tho, a hefty CPU from its day and age does stay relevant for a while in the industry we've seen over the past decade-ish, not so much in what we've seen before.
      There will probably be a bit of both Id sat

    • ben russ
      ben russ 3 months ago +1

      @RoQe yt unless the paradigm shifts from the current "MOAR CORES" to "cores go BRRRRR" I figure it will still be a decently powerful chip on an equally powerful chip set. The mobo alone was 1,000.
      It's funny tho RDR2 CPU utilization usually sits at 7-10%
      Once it ages out of the AAA I'm planning on turning it into a server

    • RoQe yt
      RoQe yt 3 months ago +1

      @ben russ if your goal was to run at least basic and today's stuff for a decade, you can easily do that with that amazing chip!
      Not sure if in a decade it'll be a triple A capable CPU, but only time will tell

    • ben russ
      ben russ 3 months ago +2

      @RoQe yt Ya, im glad I shelled out for a 3975wx, I should be set for a decade.

  • szczsz
    szczsz 4 months ago +109

    Aaaaand I'm rooting even more for vValve and linux gaming.

    • 0M9H4X
      0M9H4X 3 months ago +1

      what does this have to do with valve and linux? The chip is going to be on the CPU no matter what OS you run

    • Al Addin
      Al Addin 4 months ago +11

      @pixel fairy Very likely they are, cause as has been said in the video, MS already pulled of DRM on their xbox customers by a similar, so called security chip.
      It is intriguing how such companies can label their black box chips as security chips, letting their customers believe, it was about their personal security, while it is not. Lol
      The chip is a security chip, but it rather 'secures' the interests of corporations like MS.
      Many young nerds don't know about the history of watching videos on the pc, but i remember Microsoft being one of the early promoters of DRM in their proprietary wmv video format, which they tried to push. Luckily that plan did not work out. But it is hard to fight constantly against a corporation that big and powerful with many sheeps as customers feeding it.

    • pixel fairy
      pixel fairy 4 months ago +8

      Just hope MS games don't require pluton. They own like half the studios. This could be good for indie devs.

  • Rex Stark
    Rex Stark 4 months ago +819

    "Chip-to-Cloud Security"
    Now that's an oxymoron if I've ever heard one.

    • Darune Albane
      Darune Albane 3 months ago

      @Desktopia umm 😂🤣😂🤣 you have NO idea a out banks and bank laws
      They are only required to have a small amount of cash on hand the rest they loan (spend) out .. if to many people ask for cash at one time they will refuse you and if there is a bank crash good luck getting ANYTHING back

    • Darune Albane
      Darune Albane 3 months ago +1

      @Desktopia a bank IS someone elses wallet ... not a lockbox that holds your cash they take YOUR cash and spend it hoping when you want it back they have some on hand

    • Darune Albane
      Darune Albane 4 months ago

      Replace "cloud" with someone elses computer

    • Bagus Tesa
      Bagus Tesa 4 months ago

      @Desktopia i have this tingling feeling that they are capable of keeping me from using my machine, remotely even. it just doesnt sit right.
      stop throwing russian and chinese softwares, they are different bred to this hardware-require-cloud thingy. i have no idea why you had to bring them to this.
      *edit*
      i just read your next comment, you did mention microsoft widely used by government. truth to be told, it just them only know or being lobbied to use microsoft. so many system admins had trouble with windows rolling out updates on windows server that breaks an entire critical service. i vividly remember we had to patch up stuff on several dozens of machine when the .Net updates rolling in and stuff start breaking. common folks wont see the fire we had to deal with as its all done at night. and yes, that update was mandatory and labelled for security updates.

  • Stamo Hristov
    Stamo Hristov 4 months ago +321

    Or how to transform the software problems into a hardware ones.

    • Rocky Tom
      Rocky Tom 4 months ago +8

      @viniciusfrj
      "When people run out of real problems, all of which are solvable, they tend to make absolute problems, which are always impossible to solve"
      -Dad when we talked about why it's impossible to solve crime in full.

    • viniciusfrj
      viniciusfrj 4 months ago +29

      How to make hard to solve problems impossible to solve

  • Nitro Tech
    Nitro Tech 4 months ago +90

    Microsoft in the future: You need a Pluton Chip to install Windows 12

  • youkofoxy
    youkofoxy 4 months ago +112

    Physical access is physical access.
    We have over 4 thousands years of experience in denying physical access.
    So why do we have to rely on a chip?!
    It isn't like we can't make locks that can actually hinder LPL long enough for security to arrive.
    Is just that we don't care to actually do it.
    At this point is just DRM, minor annoyance for the intruder, real hindrance for legitimate users.

    • Carewolf
      Carewolf 3 months ago +1

      Physical access here is code for "ownership". It protects against ownership, so you can never truly own your own computer.

    • ys ts
      ys ts 3 months ago +2

      and why i dont have choice of not using locks when it is not necessary to my usecase. we are forced to put a lock on ourselves which the lockmaker is somebody that we dont trust.
      i can tell you tpm is not necessary. a usb security key just providing the same feature
      if you want physical security, put your computer into safe place but not putting your key into the chip. the chip can also be broken down.

    • Eden Rose
      Eden Rose 4 months ago +6

      worse, because there is no way this wont be defeated with enough time and access to the target machine. | if they dont give dedicated pins to the hardware that means the CPU processes are vulnerable just like firmware based TPM's.
      The reason why this works on the Xbox is the Curated software library. Windows doesnt have that. you can exploit windows and people /will/ to create these scenarios.

  • Robs Device Unknown
    Robs Device Unknown 4 months ago +43

    I still feel these devices are completely intended for backdoor access by MS and other entities. I'm sure also tracking. I don't like it.

    • Fabian Laibin
      Fabian Laibin 4 months ago +1

      Lets be honest, they don't need this for tracking or backdoor, it's already there

  • Duncan González
    Duncan González 4 months ago +503

    This is DRM, and only "secure" for Microsoft. Putting another component in an already complex system is just adding another possible open door for hacking.

    • Skund
      Skund 4 months ago

      ​@какой-то ребенок в МосквеI hope there is a good way
      The two things I see: Not buying a CPU with it or a hacked version of Windows

    • Skund
      Skund 4 months ago +2

      They could lock Microsoft products to Pluton (that is probably what you are eluding too)
      Scary

    • Aiman Norazman
      Aiman Norazman 4 months ago +3

      @Maynne Millena-Millares sorry to say but in the enterprise space, Exchange, skype, Active Directory are still used extensively and they still only run on windows. I hate to admit it, but the products kinda work in tandem with one another quite easily and they play along nicely. But then again, it's not up to me to decide which OS or products are used ;)
      For a home environment, sure i run linux on my servers at home.

    • Maynne Millena-Millares
      Maynne Millena-Millares 4 months ago +2

      @Aiman Norazman The bigger mystery is why use Windows for servers? Linux is proven more secure and flexible.

  • Plasmatech
    Plasmatech 4 months ago +76

    A chip inside of your chip, running a completely separate operating system, that has full read/write access to to your RAM/storage, that can send network packets without the knowledge of the main operating system, that you have no-idea when it is turned on/off, that runs proprietary closed-source code, that is now being updated via Windows updates, that serves the same purpose as the Intel ME and AMD PSP which have had concerning large number of vulnerabilities and that lots of people to believe is NSA backdoors/spyware. The Pluton is an improvement in terms of technology, but it just gives me the spooks and my trust for Microsoft is extremely limited.

    • Baul
      Baul 3 months ago +2

      Yo, you should check out Intel Management Engine and AMD PSP.

  • Kev D
    Kev D 4 months ago +125

    A firmware TPM does NOT run on the CPUs cores. It runs within the ME or PSP for Intel and AMD respectively.

  • scarletspidernz
    scarletspidernz 4 months ago +67

    Sounds like an e waste generator - This computer will only run windows from xx to xx after that the pluton chip will make it not work. So the general consumer will throw it out while techies will switch to linux. Worse if they lock the system to only run windows as well.

    • Evan Robertson
      Evan Robertson 4 months ago +3

      @Legatelaurie pretty much. I wish more people would discuss the E-waste aspect of things like this, since regardless of security concerns, people don’t need to upgrade computers as often as they used to. If you require whole new hardware to run a marginally better OS, isn’t that egregiously wasteful?

    • prawny12009
      prawny12009 4 months ago +3

      system locked cpu's and always online encryption chips, it's almost like you don't actually own what you buy anymore, everything has remote bricking functions just in case you have the audacity to try use it past it's allotted service/ support life.

    • Legatelaurie
      Legatelaurie 4 months ago +3

      Windows 12 will almost certainly require Pluton 2

  • uzun deprem
    uzun deprem 4 months ago +91

    I get pissed off when i update my pc and it downloads an app without my consent, now we can have these people on a hardware level? Awesome!

    • hubertnnn
      hubertnnn 4 months ago +1

      I wonder if it will be rebooting the PC after each update.

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    • Paul Vorderegger
      Paul Vorderegger 4 months ago +13

      And Im on linux and will then have a fucking Microsoft chip inside my CPU that cant even be disabled. And Microsoft is shipping the updates? How?

  • Slovenly Gulf City American
    Slovenly Gulf City American 4 months ago +242

    anyone else think this is just a way to build backdoors into anything without windows?

    • Ski J
      Ski J 3 months ago

      No

    • Evan Robertson
      Evan Robertson 4 months ago +1

      No, it’s also a backdoor into Windows as well.

    • Maynne Millena-Millares
      Maynne Millena-Millares 4 months ago +1

      @Dinidu Perera I still use a system with 2013 CPU. It predates PSP/IME

    • Matthew Parker
      Matthew Parker 4 months ago +9

      @Skywayz Zarthic or just throttle the performance of any OS other than Windows so people stop complaining about how slow Windows is.

    • Nunya Business
      Nunya Business 4 months ago +2

      @Skywayz Zarthic Trying to defeat linux users is like trying to tell the devil no

  • Sullen Secret
    Sullen Secret 4 months ago +96

    This is sci-fi level stuff where one company tries to conquer the world in a stealthy way and such. No thanks.

    • None of your Business
      None of your Business 3 months ago

      @Sullen Secret that could be caused by all kinds of things to be fair. Currently running Win 8, 10 and Kubuntu from the same drive, nothing going wrong.
      And for some reason, even the Win 7 from another drive which had it's own MBR due to it coming from my old laptop works. It's slow as fuck, but I at least didn't lose any data.
      So, in short, in such cases I can't help but assume an user error, or just a failed/corrupted installation.
      If Microsoft goes through with this, and manufacturers agree with it, it's gonna be a different story, and a completely different approach at troubleshooting the issue.

    • None of your Business
      None of your Business 3 months ago

      "Tries to conquer the world"
      They already did that. Not a single OS is as widespread as Windows is. Talking about computers here, Windows phone was a joke.
      They are trying something with this, possibly limiting both manufacturers AND customers, but by all means, it's completely unnecessary.
      Most people use Windows because it's easy already, and don't want to put in the effort to learn Linux.

    • WorldTravel1518
      WorldTravel1518 4 months ago

      @Sullen Secret All of them.

    • Sullen Secret
      Sullen Secret 4 months ago

      @WorldTravel1518 - How many people know that Linux exists? How many realize what Windows is as they are using it?

    • WorldTravel1518
      WorldTravel1518 4 months ago

      @hubertnnn There are a lot more desktops than servers. And almost everyone I know with a Mac either has Windows installed in some way or has a seperate Windows PC.

  • Soham Ray
    Soham Ray 4 months ago +8

    First they introduced Secure Boot & made it impossible to run Linux or other OS with Secure Boot enabled. Now they want to lock down the CPU at hardware level & we won't be able to disable it. Yeah..... I think I know where this is going.

  • MakingTechSense
    MakingTechSense 4 months ago +86

    The weakest link in IT security is STILL the human at the desk. If someone has physical access to your systems then you have WAY bigger problems than a TPM module.

  • Luffen
    Luffen 4 months ago +56

    "We trust them - they made Vista".
    Someone forgot Windows ME. 😬💥
    The system that restarted itself all the time!

  • dbsirius
    dbsirius 4 months ago +57

    I can imagine Microsoft bricking the TPM module on the CPU.

    • prawny12009
      prawny12009 4 months ago

      How can an always online/ cloud based encryption engine even work unless it gives the cpu internet access pre boot?

    • Watynecc
      Watynecc 4 months ago

      I wonder how Linux can work with

  • Linux apt
    Linux apt 4 months ago +69

    I want my computer to do ONLY things that I allow IT not the other way around…

    • m4nt1c0r3s
      m4nt1c0r3s 3 months ago +1

      Well if you haven't noticed in recent decades, the big push is for you to not own your computer or anything else, you are effectively just a lease holder agreeing to whatever restrictions the companies can get away placing on you, and the list of restriction grows longer and longer, its why every piece of software is a service now, that you have to keep paying for and can just be taken away from you when the store shuts down or they decide to not support it anymore so you can start paying for the newer version twice the price. There are still people that know what freedom looks like, but by the way they normalize it in younger generations, in few decades the norm will be for everything to be like that, cars, houses, travel. If theres no pushback, they will keep encroaching, thats what corporatism is all about.

    • Robert Telonis
      Robert Telonis 4 months ago +2

      If you get hacked it won't be doing what you tell it to anyway so I suppose it is a no win situation

    • flameshana9
      flameshana9 4 months ago +12

      Welcome to planet Earth. I see you're new here. Enjoy your stay. By the way you can't leave. We own you now.
      Have a nice day.

    • Igor Dasunddas
      Igor Dasunddas 4 months ago +11

      That's what that MShit company doesn't get.

  • KuruGDI
    KuruGDI 4 months ago +233

    Linux was one of the things I thought about when they said Microsoft will be responsible for updating Pluton.
    And what if there would be a major security issue with these chips? Would you even be able to turn them off? Or does Microsoft use it's market dominance to hang some iron balls and chains to your CPU's ankles (even you never wanted to run windows like on servers).

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    • TheXlen
      TheXlen 4 months ago +5

      @Killertruth186 I'm not by any point here saying Linux is perfect, it's not, even by a long shot, but at many things Linux is far better, personally, my main reason for my main rig to live on Windows is the shit DRM and anticheat engines that interfere with what I want to play, watch and listen to. There's a huge reason why there are more and more people every year that go full on selfhosting, if I could afford it, I'd probably join them as well, because we can't afford to trust the big companies to do the right thing when historically they have almost never done it

    • TheXlen
      TheXlen 4 months ago +4

      @Killertruth186 well you can begin by reading ToS/EULA, then you can go over network data sent by windows to MS... Do you really live on a different planet?

    • NathOnGames
      NathOnGames 4 months ago +5

      @Killertruth186 You have clearly made up your mind about this topic, but yes Microsoft is filtering off your data under windows 10 / 11 to build a profile on you to encourage you to click advertisement or for them to sell you more products.
      Where do you think the telemetry data is stored and your Windows account you use to log into Windows 11?
      Also check telemetry and the data it collects / run a packet sniffer like glass wire and watch it light up with microsoft servers, Although typing this is ofc pointless. No one admits they're wrong ever. Have to keep that pride in tact right ?

  • TheXlen
    TheXlen 4 months ago +52

    What are the chances that MS will break its security before its even been implemented in 0.0001% of systems

    • So Sexy i'm Sexy
      So Sexy i'm Sexy 4 months ago

      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------NUDE.GIRLSS.SITE/AGNEZ 💋
      if you tap you will lick
      THREE IN ONE
      L...❤❤❤...
      TheXvid: THIS IS FINE.
      THREE IN ONE
      SOMEONE: SAYS ''HECK''.
      TheXvid: BE GONE
      Life's story is a short journey so have fun before sleeping forever
      #Чо #эт #делает #на #2 #месте #в #тренде
      #однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков .#垃圾.
      Megan: ''Hotter''
      Hopi: ''Sweeter''
      Joonie: ''Cooler''
      Yoongi: ''Butter''
      Жизнь, как красивая мелодия, только песни перепутались.
      Megan: "Hotter"
      Hopi: "Sweeter"
      Joonie: "Cooler"
      Yoongi: "Butter" .
      ライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!この日のライブ配信は、かならりやばかったですね!1万人を超える人が見ていたもんね(笑)やっぱり人参最高!まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした!今後は気を付けないとね. .
      !💖🖤❤️#今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!#この日のライブ配信は、#かならりやばかったですね!#1万人を超える人が見ていたもん(#笑)#やっぱり人参最高!#まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした #今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!#この日のライブ配信は、#かならりやばかったですね! #1万人を超える人が見ていたもん(#笑)#やっぱり人参最高! #まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした #垃圾 今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!この日のライブ配信は、かならりやばかったですね!1万人を超える人が見ていたもん(笑)やっぱり人参最高!まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした,. 💖🖤在整個人類歷史上,強者,富人和具有狡猾特質的人捕食部落,氏族,城鎮,城市和鄉村中的弱者,無`'守和貧窮成員。然而,人類的生存意願迫使那sfdsd些被拒絕,被剝奪或摧毀的基本需求的人們找到了一種生活方式,並繼續將其DNA融入不斷發展的人類社會。. 說到食物,不要以為那些被拒絕的人只吃垃圾。相反,他們學會了在被忽視的肉類和蔬菜中尋找營養。他們學會了清潔,切塊,調味和慢燉慢燉的野菜和肉類,在食品``

  • Tony Sheerness
    Tony Sheerness 4 months ago +48

    Lenovo locking cpu's to motherboards and now this, big brother total control over what you do and what you have.

    • prawny12009
      prawny12009 4 months ago +1

      All in the name of forced obsolescence,
      planned obsolescence is too hit and miss, sometimes people just shrug off the latest "innovations" once they realise they would be worse off.
      gone are the days when the customer demand determined/drove the market, now we get what we are given (or made to subscribe too) you can be sure as hell remote soft bricking will be far easier going forwards.

    • flameshana9
      flameshana9 4 months ago +8

      Apple's probably like "I know right? Isn't it great!"

  • Vagner Couto
    Vagner Couto 4 months ago +9

    Funny how the "concerns" are just like 15 seconds of the video, even though it's already announced OEMs are going to start using TPMs and this BS to push HW locked to their ecosystem. This is not acceptable. It's stupid to think this has anything to do with privacy or security and not just more DRM.

  • Cooljosh3k
    Cooljosh3k 4 months ago +18

    Microsoft quality? No thanks. That is how we got things like the RRoD.

  • YOEL _44
    YOEL _44 4 months ago +13

    But what if I DO NOT want more -spyware- cough! -DRM- cough! security in my computer?

  • WoD STALKER
    WoD STALKER 4 months ago +101

    Amazing, now we can all have os-locked cpus ! Just what we needed microsoft, thank you.
    (I know it probably wont be the case, just joking on MC's obsession on tpm/security chips)

    • So Sexy i'm Sexy
      So Sexy i'm Sexy 4 months ago

      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------NUDE.GIRLSS.SITE/AGNEZ 💋
      if you tap you will lick
      THREE IN ONE
      L...❤❤❤...
      TheXvid: THIS IS FINE.
      THREE IN ONE
      SOMEONE: SAYS ''HECK''.
      TheXvid: BE GONE
      Life's story is a short journey so have fun before sleeping forever
      #Чо #эт #делает #на #2 #месте #в #тренде
      #однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков .#垃圾.
      Megan: ''Hotter''
      Hopi: ''Sweeter''
      Joonie: ''Cooler''
      Yoongi: ''Butter''
      Жизнь, как красивая мелодия, только песни перепутались.
      Megan: "Hotter"
      Hopi: "Sweeter"
      Joonie: "Cooler"
      Yoongi: "Butter" .
      ライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!この日のライブ配信は、かならりやばかったですね!1万人を超える人が見ていたもんね(笑)やっぱり人参最高!まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした!今後は気を付けないとね. .
      !💖🖤❤️#今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!#この日のライブ配信は、#かならりやばかったですね!#1万人を超える人が見ていたもん(#笑)#やっぱり人参最高!#まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした #今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!#この日のライブ配信は、#かならりやばかったですね! #1万人を超える人が見ていたもん(#笑)#やっぱり人参最高! #まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした #垃圾 今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!この日のライブ配信は、かならりやばかったですね!1万人を超える人が見ていたもん(笑)やっぱり人参最高!まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした,. 💖🖤在整個人類歷史上,強者,富人和具有狡猾特質的人捕食部落,氏族,城鎮,城市和鄉村中的弱者,無`'守和貧窮成員。然而,人類的生存意願迫使那sfdsd些被拒絕,被剝奪或摧毀的基本需求的人們找到了一種生活方式,並繼續將其DNA融入不斷發展的人類社會。. 說到食物,不要以為那些被拒絕的人只吃垃圾。相反,他們學會了在被忽視的肉類和蔬菜中尋找營養。他們學會了清潔,切塊,調味和慢燉慢燉的野菜和肉類,在食品``

    • Esdras Flores
      Esdras Flores 4 months ago +14

      I wouldn't doubt it though, with Microsoft's record of the last couple years where almost every update broke and bricked systems.

  • Shane Potter
    Shane Potter 4 months ago +40

    Yah i'm not going to trust any cpu that has microsoft in charge of keys to encryption lol

    • Bjørns Time is Relative
      Bjørns Time is Relative 4 months ago

      @Alexander Pavel I just hope they only get on laptop chips (where it makes at least some sense)

    • Alexander Pavel
      Alexander Pavel 4 months ago +1

      So no more AMD and Intel CPUs after this year? AMD's mobile Ryzen 6000 chips already have it

  • Scy
    Scy 4 months ago +21

    if this goes much further I'm getting RISC-V with Linux and hiding in a cave for the rest of my life

    • Anne ☥紘☽
      Anne ☥紘☽ 2 months ago

      @D34DB34T Sorry, that is what i meant by having a specific machine. Something dead simple and reliable like a cheap old-school cellphone that people could rely on, then you just have to start a trend.
      Let's maybe just give it slightly better I/O than the old Nokia.
      I totally agree that OP-SEC elitism is incredibly stupid/dangerous/inefficient

    • D34DB34T
      D34DB34T 2 months ago

      @Anne ☥紘☽ In order to combat the cooling effect, secure and anonymous communication needs to be easy and convenient. Having to go through all those steps every time one wants to use the internet securely will prevent 99.9 % of people from ever doing it and then the few people that do get painted as heinous criminals.

    • Anne ☥紘☽
      Anne ☥紘☽ 4 months ago +2

      Tbh I really think we should build extra secure low tech open source machines for all serious internet an telecommunications activities and keep the spyware filled entertainment machines for use only as entertainment only. And probably keep them in a soundproof black faraday caged box the rest of the day.

  • Simba Cho
    Simba Cho 4 months ago +201

    So a company, unable to make a secure OS for almost 40 years, tries to make a security chip. What could go wrong?

    • David Botos
      David Botos 3 months ago

      @Raxcental Ruthenta Microsoft shouldn't force anything, especially with "security" improvements like this that have actual security as the lowest priority.

    • Simba Cho
      Simba Cho 3 months ago

      @0M9H4X Yeah, closed ecosystems for the people! Hurray, we got a solution for security issues!

    • Sav
      Sav 3 months ago

      @prawny12009 Upgrading to Win11 wasn't recommended.. who is using Win 11 and liking it, btw?

    • 0M9H4X
      0M9H4X 3 months ago

      the xbox one is pretty damn secure and it's been out for 9 years now

  • Dycedarg's Elder Brother
    Dycedarg's Elder Brother 4 months ago +64

    I read it as "Microsoft Pollution" at first, thinking Microsoft was finally going the way of Captain Planet villain.

    • Roxor128
      Roxor128 4 months ago +2

      Considering all the e-waste it'll produce when future versions of Windows (or other essential software) start requiring it, you're not wrong.

    • So Sexy i'm Sexy
      So Sexy i'm Sexy 4 months ago

      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------NUDE.GIRLSS.SITE/AGNEZ 💋
      if you tap you will lick
      THREE IN ONE
      L...❤❤❤...
      TheXvid: THIS IS FINE.
      THREE IN ONE
      SOMEONE: SAYS ''HECK''.
      TheXvid: BE GONE
      Life's story is a short journey so have fun before sleeping forever
      #Чо #эт #делает #на #2 #месте #в #тренде
      #однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков .#垃圾.
      Megan: ''Hotter''
      Hopi: ''Sweeter''
      Joonie: ''Cooler''
      Yoongi: ''Butter''
      Жизнь, как красивая мелодия, только песни перепутались.
      Megan: "Hotter"
      Hopi: "Sweeter"
      Joonie: "Cooler"
      Yoongi: "Butter" .
      ライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!この日のライブ配信は、かならりやばかったですね!1万人を超える人が見ていたもんね(笑)やっぱり人参最高!まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした!今後は気を付けないとね. .
      !💖🖤❤️#今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!#この日のライブ配信は、#かならりやばかったですね!#1万人を超える人が見ていたもん(#笑)#やっぱり人参最高!#まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした #今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!#この日のライブ配信は、#かならりやばかったですね! #1万人を超える人が見ていたもん(#笑)#やっぱり人参最高! #まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした #垃圾 今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!この日のライブ配信は、かならりやばかったですね!1万人を超える人が見ていたもん(笑)やっぱり人参最高!まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした,. 💖🖤在整個人類歷史上,強者,富人和具有狡猾特質的人捕食部落,氏族,城鎮,城市和鄉村中的弱者,無`'守和貧窮成員。然而,人類的生存意願迫使那sfdsd些被拒絕,被剝奪或摧毀的基本需求的人們找到了一種生活方式,並繼續將其DNA融入不斷發展的人類社會。. 說到食物,不要以為那些被拒絕的人只吃垃圾。相反,他們學會了在被忽視的肉類和蔬菜中尋找營養。他們學會了清潔,切塊,調味和慢燉慢燉的野菜和肉類,在食品``

    • Commodorefan64
      Commodorefan64 4 months ago +2

      Bill Gate is planning to build Thorium Nuclear Reactors in Wyoming, and has not said how the waste will be processed, and stored, so yeah they ain't far off.

  • Abdenacer Fodil
    Abdenacer Fodil 4 months ago +11

    Great now microsoft will make us serve ourselves in a silver plate for gov , hackers , and corporations .

  • TR
    TR 4 months ago +406

    Microsoft sure is one for true innovation, they've now invented spyware baked directly on the hardware. NICE!

    • TR
      TR Month ago

      @Fast and Steady I already don't, but if the fucking thing is baked into the hardware it literally doesn't matter.

    • Haxalicious
      Haxalicious 3 months ago

      @David s. Intel beat them actually. Look up Intel ME.

    • Deoxal
      Deoxal 3 months ago

      Already exists

    • Arav Kilak
      Arav Kilak 3 months ago

      Lol

  • Michael O
    Michael O 4 months ago +19

    All bets are off with physical access. I don't see that as a vulnerability. I'd rather have a hardware TPM versus nvram TPM.

  • Edward Neuman
    Edward Neuman 4 months ago +58

    MS is BEGGING for a class action. People are already purchasing new PC that are supposedly Windows 11 compliant.

    •  ƎNA
      ƎNA 4 months ago +1

      @Parritz we're in the middle of a global chip shortage, so...

    • So Sexy i'm Sexy
      So Sexy i'm Sexy 4 months ago

      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------NUDE.GIRLSS.SITE/AGNEZ 💋
      if you tap you will lick
      THREE IN ONE
      L...❤❤❤...
      TheXvid: THIS IS FINE.
      THREE IN ONE
      SOMEONE: SAYS ''HECK''.
      TheXvid: BE GONE
      Life's story is a short journey so have fun before sleeping forever
      #Чо #эт #делает #на #2 #месте #в #тренде
      #однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков .#垃圾.
      Megan: ''Hotter''
      Hopi: ''Sweeter''
      Joonie: ''Cooler''
      Yoongi: ''Butter''
      Жизнь, как красивая мелодия, только песни перепутались.
      Megan: "Hotter"
      Hopi: "Sweeter"
      Joonie: "Cooler"
      Yoongi: "Butter" .
      ライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!この日のライブ配信は、かならりやばかったですね!1万人を超える人が見ていたもんね(笑)やっぱり人参最高!まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした!今後は気を付けないとね. .
      !💖🖤❤️#今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!#この日のライブ配信は、#かならりやばかったですね!#1万人を超える人が見ていたもん(#笑)#やっぱり人参最高!#まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした #今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!#この日のライブ配信は、#かならりやばかったですね! #1万人を超える人が見ていたもん(#笑)#やっぱり人参最高! #まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした #垃圾 今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!この日のライブ配信は、かならりやばかったですね!1万人を超える人が見ていたもん(笑)やっぱり人参最高!まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした,. 💖🖤在整個人類歷史上,強者,富人和具有狡猾特質的人捕食部落,氏族,城鎮,城市和鄉村中的弱者,無`'守和貧窮成員。然而,人類的生存意願迫使那sfdsd些被拒絕,被剝奪或摧毀的基本需求的人們找到了一種生活方式,並繼續將其DNA融入不斷發展的人類社會。. 說到食物,不要以為那些被拒絕的人只吃垃圾。相反,他們學會了在被忽視的肉類和蔬菜中尋找營養。他們學會了清潔,切塊,調味和慢燉慢燉的野菜和肉類,在食品``

    • floppa Perhaps
      floppa Perhaps 4 months ago

      @Parritz hi lol

  • John
    John 4 months ago +48

    Stuff like this just makes attackers more determined. Look up the Starlet security processor in the Wii. That didn't stop anyone and neither will this.

    • POGOF
      POGOF 4 months ago +3

      @Bishop There might not be one YET. It takes time. It could happen today, tomorrow, in a year, in ten years? Who knows. But Im sure it will happen. Even for some older consoles it took years before there was non destructive exploit aka not drilling chips for Wii etc,...

    • Bishop
      Bishop 4 months ago +1

      Well Xbox One has a pluton chip. Where is the jailbreak?

  • Evil Fluff
    Evil Fluff 4 months ago +10

    It sounds like a way to lock computers to windows.

  • The Big Bazzy
    The Big Bazzy 4 months ago +4

    Glad they brought up Linux support, that's all I was thinking about.

  • Blue Beefalo
    Blue Beefalo 4 months ago +40

    Holy shit! Microsoft had found the ancient weapon Pluton and is getting ready to take on the world government 😳

    • Wyatt O'Shea
      Wyatt O'Shea 4 months ago +2

      @DeteminedExterminator SUUUUUUUUUUUPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!.

    • DeteminedExterminator
      DeteminedExterminator 4 months ago +4

      Microsoft should be wary of any semi nude cyborgs nearby. They say he'll burn the schematics of pluton if he finds them XD

    • Wyatt O'Shea
      Wyatt O'Shea 4 months ago +1

      @Sam Wallace It's a One Piece reference (anime).

    • Rainbow Bunchie
      Rainbow Bunchie 4 months ago +3

      How dare you make me think of this! I need to chain an Xbox SOC to a Vivi figure now lmao

  • Miner 36
    Miner 36 4 months ago +20

    More Microsoft spyware, next we won't be able to use unsigned apps!
    Also let's see the NSA buy CPUs without this chip like they did with Intel management engine.
    The tpm works fine as it is unless your a company that has the threat of on site atacks.

    • Eden Rose
      Eden Rose 4 months ago

      and this doesnt save them from that either. | the reason why this hasnt been defeated on Xbox is the software library is curated. Nearly all attacks targeting security chips require exploiting vulnerabilities in the underlying OS. Microsoft removed any way to do that on the Xbox.
      This doesnt mean its secure from "Physical Access" people have gotten physical access to the chip to dump data, etc. The problem is there is no way to load unsigned software making it pointless.

  • Á.I Juhász
    Á.I Juhász 4 months ago +567

    Wow, this could revolutionize the way microsoft spying on us, nice.

    • CouchPotato-γ
      CouchPotato-γ 2 months ago

      @GHOST LEGIT muh games kek

    • TheSailorKing
      TheSailorKing 3 months ago +1

      This isn't for spying. It's a way to lock PCs like Apple does with T1 and T2 "security chip"

    • Killertruth186
      Killertruth186 3 months ago

      @Ltex They wouldn't on what?

    • SixUnity
      SixUnity 3 months ago

      @Ltex ok?

    • Ltex
      Ltex 3 months ago

      @Killertruth186 they wouldnt

  • PlayingGilly
    PlayingGilly 4 months ago +5

    Microsoft issuing firmware updates? Given their track history with "updates" they could well end up bricking your mobo or cpu.

  • selohcin
    selohcin 4 months ago +5

    Wait a second. Did he say we'll be getting hardware chips on future Intel and AMD CPUs? Are we seriously going to have to waste precious die space for THIS?!?

  • SGT_S4und3r5
    SGT_S4und3r5 4 months ago +33

    I think this is a fruitless effort. There will always be some to crack it. The more worrisome situation is that it will force people down another necessity of proprietary hardware. Which also creates a situation where they can force you down a path of selective hardware if company a or b doest pay them. Its theft of private property at that point.
    Also, you forgot Win 8 wasnt great either. Its why Win 10 brought back the start menu and stopped pretending to be a tablet.

    • prawny12009
      prawny12009 4 months ago

      That is the whole point of computers, they can basically be programmed to do anything.

    • So Sexy i'm Sexy
      So Sexy i'm Sexy 4 months ago

      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------NUDE.GIRLSS.SITE/AGNEZ 💋
      if you tap you will lick
      THREE IN ONE
      L...❤❤❤...
      TheXvid: THIS IS FINE.
      THREE IN ONE
      SOMEONE: SAYS ''HECK''.
      TheXvid: BE GONE
      Life's story is a short journey so have fun before sleeping forever
      #Чо #эт #делает #на #2 #месте #в #тренде
      #однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков .#垃圾.
      Megan: ''Hotter''
      Hopi: ''Sweeter''
      Joonie: ''Cooler''
      Yoongi: ''Butter''
      Жизнь, как красивая мелодия, только песни перепутались.
      Megan: "Hotter"
      Hopi: "Sweeter"
      Joonie: "Cooler"
      Yoongi: "Butter" .
      ライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!この日のライブ配信は、かならりやばかったですね!1万人を超える人が見ていたもんね(笑)やっぱり人参最高!まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした!今後は気を付けないとね. .
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  • 그냥사람
    그냥사람 4 months ago +40

    Intel Management Engine: prepare for trouble!
    This "TPM replacement" chip that totally won't be used for spying: make it double!

    • Church Seraphim
      Church Seraphim 4 months ago +3

      I keep hearing this but no one actually points to any evidence that this is physically possible based on what we know about Pluton

  • Toast Cat
    Toast Cat 4 months ago +15

    Just the other day i was thinking since MS bought activision, that they would soon be building gpus and cpus to dominate the market

  • Jamie Stuff
    Jamie Stuff 4 months ago +113

    I won't even consider a CPU with Microsoft firmware in it until they make Windows at least as stable and secure as your typical Linux distribution. You can bet the hackers will be running custom firmware on Pluton within a few weeks of its release.

    • Killertruth186
      Killertruth186 3 months ago

      @ben russ I had forgot to mention it was on laptop. Also I had seen a form with users trying to ask for help and only get asshole like response.

    • ben russ
      ben russ 3 months ago

      @Killertruth186 just curious when did you try to run Linux.
      Also, I would never recommend Arch to a noob, that is a cliff of a learning curve. Gnome has been going downhill since 2016 as well, which is why I don't recommend Ubuntu, unless you're willing to install another desktop environment.
      The three best distros to start out on are:
      Pop_OS (Cosmos desktop environment)
      Mint (cinnamon desktop environment)
      Manjaro (KDE plasma environment)
      Both pop and mint are Ubuntu based and Manjaro is arch based.

    • ben russ
      ben russ 3 months ago

      @Killertruth186 not true, the first 3 months of using Linux I never opened the terminal. It is very distro dependent. The only reason guides like to reference terminal is that terminal is (largely) distro agnostic.

    • eb
      eb 4 months ago +2

      @Parritz Have you looked at System 76 or similar?

  • gwgux
    gwgux 4 months ago +90

    No. Just no. Rather than have more broken Microsoft nonsense embedded in the hardware, open standard solutions are the only ones I'll ever trust. I'd rather have a TPM 3 or some successor out there that addresses the issues. The solution isn't more locked down proprietary nonsense from a company with a proven track record of taking control away from the end user. I will run my older hardware into the ground before I upgrade to anything newer that has a proprietary chip in it from Microsoft.

    • Farid Bang
      Farid Bang 3 months ago

      @gwgux amd is the first to implement pluton lmao

    • gwgux
      gwgux 3 months ago

      @Brandon Allen It'll depend more on where the money is in the end. If it's more profitable to take the unpopular route, they'll do it. I hope AMD resists it and turns it into a marketing strategy against that kind of nonsense, but we'll see.

    • Brandon Allen
      Brandon Allen 3 months ago +1

      I really hope AMD sees how unpopular this is, as for Intel or Apple? this inter-corporate circle jerking is definitely something I can see them doing.

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  • Micha de Vries
    Micha de Vries 4 months ago +12

    Microsoft: YOU NEED TPM!!!
    Also Microsoft: Let's bring Microsoft spyware to the hardware layer!

  • Daniel Revas
    Daniel Revas 4 months ago +35

    I did upgrade work for a major hospital system, we enabled TPM 2.0 all of them. So if it is that easily defeated? Great. So much for protecting medical data.
    I still don't trust Microsoft.

    • ShadoFXPerino
      ShadoFXPerino 4 months ago

      @Motoryzen If the hospital's management software is written for Windows then Linux is not an option.

    • Rainbow Bunchie
      Rainbow Bunchie 4 months ago +4

      @Motoryzen Linux is an operating system, not a system platform. Any user assuming linux is the end all be all of security isn't practicing safe methods.
      Linux is only as secure as the user allows it to be, which more often than not is very insecure, and yes, I do use Linux.
      I do not delude myself into thinking that my OS is secure, as it is a minority and there is little incentive to attack me over Windows users.
      Linux hacks and attacks take place in the server space, and nearly every successful hack is a successful breach of a Linux system, because users and IT staff had bad practices and failed to *make* Linux secure.
      The security of your hardware platform is highly important as it is the catch-all when users do dumb things, this is why the Xbox One still isn't running Windows 10 for the funnies.
      Nobody has cracked Pluton yet, despite Xbox users being some of the least informed users, and the Xbox itself being the target of many a researcher attempting to reverse engineer it to make it function outside of its base uses.

    • Rainbow Bunchie
      Rainbow Bunchie 4 months ago +1

      Your network structure and security is 100x more important than per system vulnerabilities, because short of entering the building and plugging in, you've got to get through the network.
      And if you do plug in, you've still got to get through the network with login info and hope you're not airgapped.

    • Ivan
      Ivan 4 months ago +4

      Almost everything has weaknesses when it comes to technology. As someone who works in technology I would expect you to understand that.
      I'm also wondering what the hell Microsoft would go about shutting down their computer remotely for you're worrying about

    • Motoryzen
      Motoryzen 4 months ago +3

      Tpm doesn't do jack shit but let Microshit try to control more of the end users pc.. period.
      It's bs.marketing
      If you want a secure is platform... obviously Linus based is the true resolution and answer.

  • cellsheet
    cellsheet 4 months ago +6

    I wonder if the Pluton firmware updates will be roped into Microsoft's "Patch Tuesday"

  • Anthony Fleming
    Anthony Fleming 4 months ago +108

    No way in hell I'd trust Microsoft not to screw Linux users over with this.

    • Alen Asenie
      Alen Asenie 3 months ago

      @sleepykitteh as a [put any distro here] this concerns me.
      Well, I hope apple is good for something and forces this anticompetitive behavior out, since this one can affect them directly

    • Alen Asenie
      Alen Asenie 3 months ago

      @ben russ that is the point, if the programs are not compatible then there is a problem, if I can't use them with a dedicated gpu, if it is not available for any laptop, then there is a problem

    • ben russ
      ben russ 3 months ago

      @Alen Asenie There actually is a Chinese CPU mfg company that is making their own chips. They are ARM only tho.

    • sleepykitteh
      sleepykitteh 4 months ago

      @Commodorefan64 As an Arch Linux user this concerns me.

    • Your fellow human being
      Your fellow human being 4 months ago +2

      @TR United States v. Microsoft Corp. Case of 2001?

  • Jean Roch
    Jean Roch 4 months ago +36

    A TPM from MicroShit will have TWICE the vulnerabilities for twice the price ! Value !!!

  • Jan Dam
    Jan Dam 3 months ago

    Great to see more innovation coming from Microsoft, they are really pushing it these days 💪

  • Kobra Trading
    Kobra Trading 4 months ago +153

    So to sum up, they're going to make it "required" to have this in the name of security, and charge us more for it so that in the near future hackers can figure out how to bypass it anyway. Got it.

    • Matthew Lozy
      Matthew Lozy 4 months ago

      @hubertnnn they're going to add what $10 to their CPUs? Come on

    • hubertnnn
      hubertnnn 4 months ago

      @Matthew Lozy Except its not microsoft that will be upcharging for this, but Intel annd AMD, since its them that will have to put extra work into adding that crap into the CPU..
      And last time I checked neither of the companies earn anything from your personal data.

    • Matthew Lozy
      Matthew Lozy 4 months ago

      @Varian Rhesa they've never tried to do that. Every security feature they implement works in Linux... Even this one

    • WorldTravel1518
      WorldTravel1518 4 months ago

      @Varian Rhesa It literally works on Linux.

    • Varian Rhesa
      Varian Rhesa 4 months ago +1

      Or, they trying to lock Computers to only run windows

  • Mr Veink
    Mr Veink 4 months ago

    I love when companies build spying hardware right in the CPU! Now I can be always spied on!

  • Chop Chop
    Chop Chop 4 months ago +6

    "We trust Microsoft" Yeah sure hit me more with that telemetry while you're at it.

  • Paul Gray
    Paul Gray 4 months ago +3

    Hey - Vista was really good, sadly the whole change of API and fumbling by device driver's by some manufacturers (graphics cards being one) gave it a bad name.
    Besides, Win7, 8.. was just Vista with a service pack.
    Me and Sheldon agree. almost, Open BSD baby ;0.

  • Robert English
    Robert English 3 months ago +1

    As a Linux user for over a decade, I love watching Windows vs Users, it's like comedy knowing that people just sign up for more abuse over and over again!

  • Akash Yadav
    Akash Yadav 4 months ago +19

    Just as we hoped that we might finally be able to replace completely closed x86 processors with somewhat open ARM and fully open souce RISC-V in future processors. Microsoft wants to turn existing PCs into nothing but an Xbox which can run spreadsheets.

  • Peter vd
    Peter vd 4 months ago +5

    So pluton will be the way that Microsoft will lock down the os when they transition to the subscription service just a thought

  • Robert Peeler
    Robert Peeler 4 months ago +19

    Back when Trusted computed was first introduced. It was supposed to restrict what could run on your computer. It was suppose to keep any software that was not approved and signed by Microsoft from running on your computer.
    Original Xbox was a test bed for it and that worked out so well. Forgot how long it took for someone to hack it and install Linux on the xbox. I think is was something like 48 hours after the xbox went on sell.
    Microsoft has been trying to gain control of the computer market since then. I will not use windows 11 because of the requirement of running TPM.
    What happens if your system bricks itself ether though hardware breaking or bios corruption. You just cannot move your drive to another computer and recover your data, unless you have a backup that is not locked with TPM your are screwed.
    How long before the only way to backup is though Microsoft's backup services because any other backup is encrypted and locked to your computer.

    • poipoi300
      poipoi300 4 months ago

      @Cool win It's a tool, you are free to use it or not use it. Computers are doing just fine with or without using it. It depends on the use case. You're wildly exaggerating for no apparent reason.

    • Cool win
      Cool win 4 months ago +2

      TPM is the worst thing that happened to computers.

    • poipoi300
      poipoi300 4 months ago

      Encrypting your data is a choice, regardless of the TPM version you have. If you don't enable encryption services, you can still do all the local backups you want and even if your entire computer were to break, you can take the drive to another PC and it'll work as normal.

    • Robert Peeler
      Robert Peeler 4 months ago +2

      @WorldTravel1518 So TPM 1.6 still locks your data down.

    • WorldTravel1518
      WorldTravel1518 4 months ago

      @Robert Peeler Did you read what I said? I only have a TPM 1.6 chip, not a TPM 2 chip.

  • GreyWizard 255
    GreyWizard 255 4 months ago +7

    Do I really want to trust my data to the company that brought us UPnP? :/

  • LMojzis
    LMojzis 4 months ago +1

    "Chip-to-Cloud Security" means NOW you won't be able to tell what Microsoft snatched from your PC even if you ran a MITM proxy. Neat.

  • VileStorms
    VileStorms 3 months ago

    Taking my A+ course right now, and I don't think TPM's were covered at all in the course, thank you for making a video on them so I can remember for those questions!

  • VileStorms
    VileStorms 3 months ago

    So even after switching to linux, in a few years I'm going to have to either look for a cpu without pluton, or live with yet another Microsoft back door into my systems.

  • JTL
    JTL 4 months ago +8

    Like i said before... FCK Microsoft, im changing to Linux!

  • theologos kalotrapezis
    theologos kalotrapezis 4 months ago +3

    Lenovo is the first manufacturer to implement this, but it will be turned off by default in firmware settings.

  • Muntis Grube
    Muntis Grube 4 months ago +5

    What if I run Linux for sole reason of not having M$ products on my pc? Thanks, now my dreams will be plagued with horrors of future, where I can't by CPU without M$ sniffing device in it.

  • Foo Bar
    Foo Bar 4 months ago

    The TPM listening can be guarded against via pin. The tpm first requires a pin to send the keys, bitlocker supports this mode but its a bit hidden.

  • besorgter Burger
    besorgter Burger 3 months ago +1

    "We, Microsoft, after 30 years of investment, see ourselves completely unable to even think in perspective of ever being able to deliver software without security holes. So we've given up and are now forcing a chip on you that you don't know, that none of you wanted, and that you'll have to trust from now on. Just take our word for it that we would never ever not deliver NSA backdoors or anything. We are the good guys here!1!! This is all for security! (Just like all the NSA programs by the way).
    What, you guys want an opt out? Nah, there isn't. We put the shit directly into the CPU. So that you have as little choice as possible, we put it directly on Intel, AMD and Qualcomm. HAHAHA!!! THERE IS NOT MUCH ELSE LEFT HAHAHAHA!!! YOU CAN BUY FROM APPLE HAHAHAHA!!!"
    _In the background think of a Bill Gates petting a fat long haired cat._

  • Bjørns Time is Relative

    Great. This'll definitely help my system and not be an unnecessary backdoor and DRM that will be as easily exploited as tpm.
    Microsoft just shouldn't be allowed to make/require these.

  • mdozer2
    mdozer2 4 months ago

    1:07 That is a Saleae Logic device. It is a logic analyzer. It is a great product. 10/10, would recommend. Looks like Logic Pro units are going for about $1k

  • Kristoffer Lindström
    Kristoffer Lindström 4 months ago +1

    Love how people are saying that MS will have too much control over you PC with this move, but the same argument was not made when Apple switched to M1 chips....
    Double standards

  • Hazy J
    Hazy J 4 months ago

    What are the performance implications of using part of the chip's dye (die?) for non computational operations?

  • Zach B
    Zach B 4 months ago +1

    1:20
    Windows has so many vulnerabilities to an attacker with physical access, why does this one require Microsoft to make a new proprietary chip?

  • Antanas Paskauskas
    Antanas Paskauskas 4 months ago +4

    Wait a WiFi chip on CPU?? That is interesting... And concerning.

  • Isai Sotarriva
    Isai Sotarriva 4 months ago

    Could you guys please make a video about eye tracking and foveated rendering. It looks like these technologies will be finally coming to the VR consumer market this year.

  • TheCod3r
    TheCod3r 4 months ago +9

    Congrats on 4m guys, keep them coming

  • pldcanfly
    pldcanfly 3 months ago

    Nice!Now everyone has to rely on Microsoft for their security-needs. That's what I wanted when I went away from windows... Now I should trust a company that sometimes fails to deliver the correct drivers for a mainstream! graphics card, to update stuff at the hardware level. Thanks for that.

  • Unsqeakable8989
    Unsqeakable8989 4 months ago +1

    Microsoft making everything "safe, private and connected" again. I'm heading out (to Linux)

  • DoctorDothraki
    DoctorDothraki 4 months ago +5

    4:26 I would imagine Vista running on a mid-2000s PC with a silver and black tower and a flat panel monitor, not a 90s PC

  • Craig Green
    Craig Green 4 months ago +1

    Microsoft knows what's best for me just like Apple knows what's best for their users.

  • Anuj Falcon
    Anuj Falcon 3 months ago

    Will that acknowledge Linux or exclude it from properly working on that processor? Like how they screw over Linux during dual boot if the user don't install things in a proper sequence (damn!)

  • HAWXLEADER
    HAWXLEADER 3 months ago

    Vista was pure gold compared to 11.
    I Have TPM 2.0 (even according to MS tool) yet I still can't upgrade due to my CPU *model* 7700K "not being supported".
    Luckily I'm happy so far that I can't, from what I've seen on my laptop, it's an unpolished turd.

  • ziguirayou
    ziguirayou 4 months ago +2

    "Thank you for keeping me secure Microsoft!" - said nobody.

  • Marcus Adams
    Marcus Adams 4 months ago +1

    For those of us that had to slog through the trenches of Windows ME, Vista really wasn't all that bad, :p

  • ahmed motala
    ahmed motala 4 months ago

    to me, this looks like a rehash of the "Clipper chips" from waaaay back in the 80's. it says its a security feature, but will most probably provide a back door to those who know what they're doing.

  • FunBotan
    FunBotan 4 months ago +2

    When you can't make a secure OS so you make security hardware instead

  • i1ks
    i1ks 4 months ago

    Sooo now we have to check if the chip we are buying have this M$ thing or all chips will have it?
    I already can imagine chips with special letter like 'KFM' means can overclock no graphic and no spyware on chip 😁

  • Josue Morales
    Josue Morales 4 months ago

    So, are "discrete" TPM chips more secure (defeat only with physical access) versus "firmware" TPM (defeat with Platypus malware)? Who developed Platypus and RAPL, sounds physics complicated?

  • diecast jam
    diecast jam 3 months ago

    You should do a retrospective on Win Vista, which comes to the conclusion that, hey it's pretty good...oh wait a minute Linus already did that.

  • TheSailorKing
    TheSailorKing 3 months ago +1

    This isn't for spying. It's a way to lock PCs like Apple does with T1 and T2 "security chip"

  • Charlie S
    Charlie S 4 months ago

    Is it similar to what Apple did with their security on a chip?

  • Ahmad Sattout
    Ahmad Sattout 4 months ago +2

    So basically Microsoft doesn't only want Software control over your PC, but also Hardware control.
    Cool, remind me why anyone would want that?

  • robotparadise
    robotparadise 4 months ago +4

    Shower thoughts...
    1) Microsoft cant deliver enough pluton security chips to CPU manufacturers, increasing time to market and costs.
    2) CPU manufacturers create identical CPU models with different pluton versions, invalidating old CPU stock, confusing the market and stopping 2nd hand sales of Identical CHIPS with older pluton versions.
    3) Future windows versions will require re-purchasing of third-party applications that relie on new pluton features that the new O/S supports. (ever tried to get an old app working on the latest frequent iOS update? )
    4) Copyright agenda through hardware enforced DRM, across media (both live and recorded), software, networking.
    5) Laying the groundwork for 'software as a service'.

    • Prism Daymon
      Prism Daymon 3 months ago

      From what I heard in the video, thought 1 is a non-issue. Pluton will not be a separate chip, but rather part of the CPU design that gets etched onto the silicon along with the X86-64 cores, cache, etc.

  • John Jimenez
    John Jimenez 3 months ago

    Nothing about this is a new concept. Just new to PCs. Macs have had the T2 chip embedded on their motherboards for years. It works for Macs because Apple is able to control everything from software to hardware to (now) the CPU itself. PC hardware is much harder to implement because of the wide range of hardware manufacturers. Going to be interested to see how this is all rolled out.