Should You Buy or Rent Your Modem?

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  • Josh Cannols
    Josh Cannols Month ago

    Im a tech with Comcast and it amazes me how people don't understand the responsibility for owning their own modem .

  • gamingtuber 33
    gamingtuber 33 Month ago

    si this good NETGEAR Cable Modem CM700 - Compatible with All Cable Providers Including Xfinity by Comcast, Spectrum, Cox | for Cable Plans Up to 500 Mbps | DOCSIS 3.0
    by NETGEAR just got it

  • Collin The Tech Guy
    Collin The Tech Guy 2 months ago +1

    FTTH with CenturyLink can be set up with PPPoE, and VLAN 201 tagging on any router from the ONT, so you don't have to rent their 'modem'.

  • Jordan S
    Jordan S 2 months ago

    Damnit Linus, just tell me which one to buy.

  • Saber SMAW
    Saber SMAW 2 months ago

    If ya renting ya modem it is a joke, Frontier gives you it for free and not charge you to rent it and if you have the service for 1 yr you get to keep it!!

  • Lillian
    Lillian 2 months ago

    👍Thanks, I guess... I feel better about buying the Netgear Orbi, but I'm not sure why. If I have my ISPs fastest throughput or speed, does the Orbi make uploading content or downloading stuff any faster? Or does net neutrality negate the reason why I bought the Orbi?

    • Lillian
      Lillian 2 months ago

      @zo62 comcast

    • zo62
      zo62 2 months ago

      Lillian whose your cable provider I’m interested in verizon

  • Tensai55
    Tensai55 2 months ago

    What if you live in an area where the only available internet speed is 12 mbps (via DSL - 1 yr contract) or 15 mbps (via cable - 2 yr contract where the prices double in the 2nd yr)? You also rebt an old house built before the Rural Electrification Act and are unsure of how long you're going to live there because you have no idea what you're going to do after you graduate from college? Furthermore, you have no idea if you'll even stay in the same state (and thus have the same ISP options) after you graduate?

    $5 for a modem that delivers 40 mbps? Sounds like a great deal to me - my current available internet speed is not going to have a single problem with it.

  • EskmM
    EskmM 2 months ago

    cant wait until PIA rebrands and we have new VPN adverts

  • Hello There
    Hello There 3 months ago

    4:22 Nobody Hates Xfinity

  • Sarge
    Sarge 3 months ago +2

    you rent modems? isp's give you them for free and rareley want them back

  • Ivan
    Ivan 3 months ago

    I use Spectrum and they use different modem companies. The only reason i know this is because i have had them 4 times and the last time they used an ARRIS modem which was terrible in my old house because it would'nt cover most of the house's area. This time they used their own brand modem.

  • W3ND311 !
    W3ND311 ! 3 months ago

    YO help me I want to find an NBN modem but idk where to find such a thing!

  • ethereal4k
    ethereal4k 3 months ago

    After upgrading our internet package with our ISP we tried to tell them we didn't want to pay monthly for a router. They told us it was part of the package (wasn't mentioned initially when we asked). They back charged us the router fee for the previous month and the next month even though they haven't even sent us the router we don't have nor want.

  • Oli Cansdale
    Oli Cansdale 4 months ago

    This video confused my European brain xD

  • TNinja0
    TNinja0 4 months ago

    Wait. Rent. A modem? I've never heard of this.

    The Modem I have is bought from the ISP. They never even offered a rent.

  • SweetPrincessAlicorn
    SweetPrincessAlicorn 4 months ago

    My cable provider don't even have list approved modems you can buy . But my current modem has 4 port hub and wifi and phone. Since we have phone threw our cable . I don't think you can buy a modem they support phone too . Wifi bulit on to modem brodcasf but it lot of time has no internet . So we got wireless router it does wireless n and 5ghz wireless ac

  • Kevin Benecke
    Kevin Benecke 4 months ago

    One advantage to renting is if something goes wrong with it, most likely the ISP will just exchange it without charge. If you own yours and something goes wrong, you might be on the hook to buy a new one. Just like everything, there is good points like saving the modem rental fee and bad points.

  • Swolenator
    Swolenator 4 months ago

    I'm not sure off hand but I think I have a surfboard 6180 and an Asus router from around same time frame I'm guessing like n66u? Can't check atm.
    Do I need to upgrade and what improvements will I have? What model to buy or rent for comcast xfinity?

  • Marcus Owens
    Marcus Owens 4 months ago

    Sooo is it better to buy a modem than renting one??

  • Jay Cie
    Jay Cie 5 months ago

    The onlything i hate about my aftermarket cablemodem is comcast calling me up and telling me i could have better preformance with their rental than my comcast aproved docsis 3 modem. Just add it to the list. I also didn't get a bundle so i only pay for internet at the speed i want and i can change that for the next month. But i must be stupid i could save $8 a month get cable and telephone and only have a slight hit in speed. For 2 years. On contract. Then my bill skyrockets. No thanks.

  • Xeno Phon
    Xeno Phon 6 months ago

    Yeah not even an option for many nations. The ISP demand that you use their devices and they do not have purchasing programs, its all rental.

  • D-man747
    D-man747 6 months ago +1

    Damn Xfinity charges me 13 dollars a month

  • Holliday
    Holliday 6 months ago

    atnt always say they wont work for them

  • Adam Suttle
    Adam Suttle 6 months ago

    lol in UK you get given it free

  • Francis G
    Francis G 7 months ago

    If you buy your own modem and router does/can the cable company still block certain ports. Like port 80?

  • drubio
    drubio 7 months ago

    "Cries in 1MB*

  • LiK
    LiK 7 months ago

    Never rented a modem ever.

  • Aaron Bays
    Aaron Bays 7 months ago

    I've been with AT&T for the past 6 years, use their modem because it works and has wi-fi built in. In that whole 6 years they have had maybe 2 or 3 outages. Compare that to Comcast who I was usually on the phone with once or twice a month because the internet was down, I had my own equipment with them. I don't really care that AT&T charges me an extra $7 a month for a modem, because their shit simply works and saves me time/frustration from having to deal with Satan's minions over at Comcast.

  • 96donov
    96donov 7 months ago

    dont give the isp control over your internet mate

  • TRDlife
    TRDlife 7 months ago

    But if brake u renting it they will replace for free

  • Luuk Wuijster
    Luuk Wuijster 7 months ago

    I just have the free modem from the ISP, but I will have to give it back if I decide to switch to an other ISP. And the modem is great!
    The WiFi not so much, but they called like a year ago to ask how our WiFi was. We said it wasn't really good so they came by to install a WiFi extender upstairs and pull the cable FOR FREE!

  • The LOLbertarian
    The LOLbertarian 7 months ago

    Even buying the modem from the ISP works out better over time. Own your shit lol...

  • CipherBytes
    CipherBytes 7 months ago

    The problem is that many cable companies try to make it difficult for you if you use your own modem. They are slow to respond to customer service requests or they limit "compatibility" to certain models which can be expensive. Any time there is an issue, they will blame your modem for it. Lease fees are a part of their profits.
    Mine is only $5 per month which is not bad. My main concern is that I don't like them having any access to my LAN. Therefore I put my own Mikrotik router behind their router. I also obtained the root password to their router and cloned the MAC. I also turned of their wireless services.
    They like to watch your traffic as well, so I have a special purpose VPN, a foreign server I pay for $5 a month with a 2GB pipe, sFTP, and more.

  • rafael alberto brea reyes

    I have 1.2 Mbit/s internet and is the fastest in my country 😭😭😭😭😭

  • terry waller
    terry waller 7 months ago

    Depends on how much a teckie you are. If you own the modem/router your responsible for setting it up and maintaining it. If you buy it it's your job to keep it working.

  • From a Shadow
    From a Shadow 7 months ago

    I foolishly rented when I first began using internet. The cheap modems would regularly go bad about every two months so I finally bought one and its been working for 5 years.

  • Milpool
    Milpool 7 months ago

    Why the fuck do we have to rent shit from everyone. Software, music, video, etc. This is why people pirate shit.

  • Jesus Salazar
    Jesus Salazar 7 months ago

    In our neighborhood, we tried different modems and none of them work 100%, our provider is Xfinity(comcast), so we ended up renting the modem from them. The one we bought kept disconnecting or had such slow speeds compare to what we were paying for. I do not know if it was Comcast doing it or what.

    • JadonGamer
      JadonGamer 2 months ago

      what were the specs of the modem that you bought because it might have been because it did not support the speed that you pay for i have Comcast and use my own modem with no problem at all

  • Lonnie Sargent
    Lonnie Sargent 7 months ago

    When I first got cable I bought 3 new modems within 3 years, all 3 failed (they were all Linksys) within the first year of use. I got tired of spending money on something that wouldn't last a year so I started renting for $5 a month. Yes, I have had to replace my rented modems twice in the last 10 years but it is a very easy and painless process. Costs me $60 a year, I get free replacements if necessary, hell every few years I take my modem in and exchange it for one of their newer models.

  • loli moka
    loli moka 7 months ago

    I didn't even know they costed money, these things are like usually free or $1 (for older ones)
    (Goodwill outlest)

  • Nutellah
    Nutellah 7 months ago

    i only got 45mbps *cri* i want more tbh if i wouldve been able to i would want like 500-600mbps

  • Dan Gingerich
    Dan Gingerich 7 months ago

    One major thing you don't address in this is security.
    1. The all-in-one units the ISPs give out are configured to allow support to remote in and "assist" with some tech problems. One angry former support tech could utilize those back doors and wreak havok on customers' connections or utilize them for capturing user data.
    2. Those same units have wifi that have a feature called WPS, or Wifi Protected Setup. This is a HUGE misnomer, as not only is it not really "protected", but it introduces a huge security hole that a wardriving hacker could use to gain access to a network in under 2 hours, with a typical hack time of 30-40 minutes. Once they hook into the network, it is easy to just run wireshark and capture all the data packet crossing the network to a hard drive for half a day or something, and get all the data needed for many banking web sites, or at the very least all the users' email addresses and sell it to spammers. Sometimes these people are just after an internet connection that they can use to share out their pirated movie and music collection, which can get the owner of the network sued for tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars by the MPAA or RIAA. Most off the shelf routers also include this very insecure "feature", but at least they can turn that off on some of them. It can't be turned off on any of the all-in-one units from ISPs.
    3. All of the ISP all-in-one units and most of the off the shelf routers have security holes that the manufacturer isn't interested in patching, one of which would allow someone with the right knowledge to just telnet into a certain port on a router, issue one command without even a login, and record all upstream traffic crossing the router. Most connections have a much lower upstream speed, such as a Comcast Xfinity connection running 250/10 (250Mb/s down 10 Mb/s up), which would hardly be noticed if it were cloned and downloaded to someone else. Who would notice their download speed suddenly went from 250 to 240?
    This is why I advise getting 3 things, regardless of the ISP: your own cable modem, preferably a Netgear, a small business or pfsense router WITHOUT WIRELESS, and a small business class wireless access point WITHOUT WPS.
    1. The modem is secured, and not allowing back doors for ISP "support".
    2. The router doesn't have nearly as many security concerns, and with small business class, FAR better support and updates in case of discovered security issues. I prefer pfsense because it can be run on commoditized PC hardware, easily on a dual core Atom mini PC, is actively updated regularly, and isn't dependent on a particular company for maintenance. Pfsense looks to me to be FAR more secure than any other firewall or router on the market.
    3. Wifi that is very hard to hack because it is meant for business use and does not have that huge security hole that is WPS. Even better, with most small business wireless APs, it is possible to create an isolated guest wifi channel that doesn't have access to the main network or other devices on that guest wifi channel. Some even allow for restricted bandwidth on the guest wifi channel, but those usually cost more.
    4. Most importantly, any small business router worth its price and any pfsense router have options that can stop malware from being downloaded by users and stop traffic to botnets. They can even block entire geographic regions from the local network. They offer HUGE security advantages even of the user is dumb enough to get into all sorts of trouble.
    Security should be the biggest concern for any internet user. There are many people out there ready and willing to use any means they can find to steal other people's money, and it doesn't matter to them if the person is innocent or a "nice person" when they rob them. Many more aren't looking to rob people, but just sharing out pirated movies can leave innocent people with court ordered payments that would leave most people completely destitute for decades. These hackers can destroy lives, leaving people unable to make a living anymore, even to support themselves, let alone a family. It is very important to protect against these people. Securing a network costs a bit of money, but it is far cheaper than being hacked, and the more people that properly secure their network, the more focused the criminals will be on those who don't.

  • EpicSOB sunabich
    EpicSOB sunabich 7 months ago

    ... Still waiting for the beep

  • Lirilie
    Lirilie 7 months ago

    I like the little chuckle your staff gave right before the sponsor pitch. 😂😂

  • Brian Maier
    Brian Maier 7 months ago

    I purchased my first modem 8 years ago and I saved myself the $10.00 per month rental fee. I had to replace it this year but It was still worth it.

  • SysPowerTools
    SysPowerTools 7 months ago

    Most, and yes I mean MOST cable companys still support even DOCSIS 1.1 and 1.0 modems. With blazing fast 26 (ish) Mb/s speeds. Whats cool about that is they have been cracked open like a thin shelled peanut and some people use them for redundant connections at their homes since the legacy nodes share a line but are usually separate.... and some people just use them to get free internet. Looking at you sb5101 and 5100 users. Even docsis 2.0 is barely secure. DOCSIS 1.1 is so insecure that once connected to a node on a hacked modem, you can sniff packets, change your physical address to your neighbors and brows the web as them or intercept everything meant for them. Basically I'm saying don't use it even if it's an option or you have a VPN or killer intrusion detection system.

  • SuperSandro2000
    SuperSandro2000 7 months ago

    Here in Germany the rented router is usually shit and insecure.

  • Jake Britton
    Jake Britton 8 months ago

    Most ISP providers don't tell you what settings are needed for your modem to work, so they can limit how you can use the internet with crippled networking. I always bypass their hardware and use the internet like the way it was designed.

    • Timothy Grimes
      Timothy Grimes 8 months ago

      what are you talking about? there are no "settings" that need to be tweaked to make your cable modem work. modems are just layer 1 devices. Maybe your talking about combo modems? which are modems with built in routers. but even then.. they work right out of the box.. ISP's dont change any settings on them. you think they individually log into thousands of modems and manually change settings? no matter if its theirs or your own (if supported) your modem will download a docsis config file generated by them to make your modem work as best as possible. this isn't something you can do yourself. and you can't bypass your modem.. you can bypass an external router but not a modem.

  • Una Salus Victis
    Una Salus Victis 8 months ago

    gonna get a netgear nighthawk gateway next year sometime, the POS they gave us restarts daily on its own, but im assured its not set to do that... and isnt being told to do that either...so..yeah...i miss fios..frontier has horrible support, but my god was it reliable... just connected my router directly to the ONT set theirs up as a network extender and moca router, and, bam, worked so well i had to restart, all of 3 times in the year we had it... including the times had to restart the ONT...
    they need to give us a boost to upload speeds... gigabit with 12mbit upload is silly..(seen it offered not far from here and was like "wtf" )

  • I dont want to use my real name

    PIA will not accept my credit card.

  • Ben
    Ben 8 months ago

    40Mbit is about the fastest you'll get where I live! The network is still using some of the old copper phone line, but today that's only for the last bit to the house.

  • Tristan Ryan
    Tristan Ryan 8 months ago

    lmao @ SP comcast

  • Colonel Potter
    Colonel Potter 8 months ago

    I have an eero system but I rent the modem still

  • Mariusz Chrobak
    Mariusz Chrobak 8 months ago

    Amateurs... I bought my own modem, router (non wifi), switch and access point...

  • UR_Maki_Chan
    UR_Maki_Chan 8 months ago

    For Cox’s affordable internet rental fee for a dual router modem rental = better buy a isp supporting dual router modem since it’s $90 a month for the rental plus California taxes. 😰

  • Pedro Cruz
    Pedro Cruz 8 months ago

    I called at&t to ask about a list of modems that are compatible with there services. And they told me after market modems do not handle their services. Can any one point me in the direction to purchase my own modem

  • rmx77
    rmx77 8 months ago

    sadly comcast/xfinity is very limited in the modem it can run. the thing is that xfinity voice is limited to one model only and no others cause of the fact it has the built in phone jack setup. i have only ever seen the arris or netgear whichever its labeled that has the internal phone jack that works with xfinity voice. :(

  • Ian
    Ian 8 months ago

    my city lafayette la has 10gbs

  • Crimson Ghost
    Crimson Ghost 8 months ago

    The modems from the ISP is usually crap.

  • CriticalHitsTHACO
    CriticalHitsTHACO 8 months ago

    my provider...(those cox) LOVE to tell me my stuff is old out dated and needs upgrading. my modem died on me in 2015. so a bought a new one. i missed a monthly payment some where a while ago. so when i went in and paid up i mentioned that my internet seemed to die out at the same time every night. this magicly stopped happening once my bill was current (surprise surprise.) but as soon as i told her that...the lady was swooping in and looking at stuff i did not care for here to look at. "oh look your modem is kinda old. we can hook you up with one of ours its just $50 extra every month."
    YEAH ...HELL TO THE FUCK NO. if the modem i have lasts 20 years (and it should be able to) im not 'upgrading' a damn thing. its bad enough my bill has increased 5 bucks every year for the past 7 years. while my speed hasnt changed. i keep hoping google fiber will hurry up and make its way into my town. these guys suck. id gladly ditch em, but they are the only broadband in town. its not fucking right.

  • My baby is RETARDID
    My baby is RETARDID 8 months ago

    Nowadays hackers don't install malware on your computer. They put it in your modems and routers. If you think you have malware on your modem you can send it to the ISP and get another. If you buy one, (like I did) you can't return it. You're stuck with it.

  • David Henderson
    David Henderson 8 months ago

    My modem was free. It was gave to me by some one who was upgrading. My Wi-fi router only cost me $5 at a yard sell. SO I really lucked out.

  • DeadOmega
    DeadOmega 8 months ago

    Customer Service didnt even know what DOCSIS is XD.
    They will send me a Arris TM620B/S Telephone Modem from like 2011 that supports DOCSIS 2.0, at least thats what they said on the phone.
    Living in an internet Third World country is tough guys.

  • Robert Blakemore
    Robert Blakemore 8 months ago

    Comcast will charge 13 dollars a month in 2019, it comes out to 156 dollars a year and they broadcast your wi-fi to the world as "hot spots". I want my internet to be ether net only . You also can take it with you when you move.

    • Timothy Grimes
      Timothy Grimes 8 months ago

      ​@Robert Blakemore That's what i said " It doesn't affect your usage as it has a separate service flow". Either way, you can turn off the public wifi here: customer.xfinity.com/#/settings/security/hotspot will take 24 hrs to take affect.

    • Robert Blakemore
      Robert Blakemore 8 months ago

      @Timothy Grimes Comcast Hot Spots are not metered to your account so you can use it to cut your data usage. However,I still do not trust that there cannot be some kind of rossover.

    • Timothy Grimes
      Timothy Grimes 8 months ago

      they broadcast a "separate" on net wifi hot spot thats only usable by people with comcast accounts.. you have to log in. It doesn't affect your usage as it has a separate service flow. so its not "your own" wifi. if it helps any. But even so i agree i don't like that my modem i rent has public wifi. even if it doens't really affect me.

  • Justin Beaird
    Justin Beaird 8 months ago

    The boxes ISP provide are the the bottom of the barrel cheapest ones they could get. And if you buy one elsewhere it is usually paid off within a year of owning it.

  • CarimboHanky
    CarimboHanky 8 months ago

    when i first got internet back in 1998 i paid rental($5/month) for a modem for about 2years then i bought my own modem.
    in the past 18years i have bought 2 modems

  • WoodyBLike
    WoodyBLike 8 months ago

    As a Spectrum technician, there are a couple or few things I will mention.
    In the Kentucky area, we use a few manufacturers. Ubee, Motorola, Technicolor, and Hitron. For Wifi, it's Sagemcom.
    DOCSIS 3.0 modems are used for all speeds type up to 400M. However, the way our service is built, if you want 1Gig, the only modems that are approved to work are our own DOCSIS 3.1 modems. Some of our modems do have 32 channels or 24 channels. However, they do not support up to a Gig. Why? No idea. Could be something to do with the way everything works.
    Spectrum provides the cable modem for free (yes, it vastly differs from one provider to the next) and the only thing that costs extra is the router. I highly do not recommend renting your own modem for a number of reasons.
    1. We run trouble calls for modems that are approved, constantly. This is namely due to the customer setting everything up themselves and us only making sure the speeds work. But down the line, these modems can easily cause time out errors and sync errors. When a service provider provides a piece of equipment for free, it's for a good reason.
    2. If your technician arrives and wants to install a modem and router combo, just ask for a separate solution.
    3. Do not complain about your speeds if you bought your own equipment. We can guarantee our wired speeds. NEVER WiFi because every single house is different in the devices, wall material and size of the house.

  • NVR's Giftshop
    NVR's Giftshop 8 months ago

    Rent, because your ISP wont help you otherwise.

  • Dave
    Dave 8 months ago

    Time Warner required me to pay a $15 rental fee for my modem, even if I provided my own Motorola DOCSIS 3. It's a rip off, and why I switched to FiOS.

  • A Tragedy
    A Tragedy 8 months ago

    it is possible to have internet service with no modem rental fees. you just have to find them. Rogers and Bell is not one of them. Virgin is.

  • S Ericson
    S Ericson 8 months ago

    4:19 There is actually a company in my area (US Internet) that at one point offered 10Gbps for home users, but they don't appear to anymore. I have no idea if it actually worked, though, and it cost $300 per MONTH.

    • S Ericson
      S Ericson 8 months ago

      Here's an archived page from 2016 that says it cost $400/mo, although I think I remember it being $300 around 6 months ago when I was helping my parents shop for a new ISP. web.archive.org/web/20160615025808/fiber.usinternet.com/plans-and-prices/plans-for-the-home/

  • Quix
    Quix 8 months ago

    I'm surprised that people can't figure this out alone. Figure out what it costs / number of months to see where the break even point is. If you think you're going to have the service longer than that or not. And as for "validated modems". You can buy the same model if you want.

  • Quake Law
    Quake Law 8 months ago

    i have tried PIA, but it seemed like it messed up my connection.. on windows 10 laptop

  • Comp Wiz2007
    Comp Wiz2007 8 months ago

    There is no debate, if you plan on living there any amount of time you should BUY..

  • Z
    Z 8 months ago

    Uhm since when do you rent a modem😂😂