2020 Toyota Supra - BMW or Toyota? The UNTOLD TRUE STORY

  • Published on Jan 31, 2019
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    The internet is on fire with opinions about the new Toyota Supra and BMW Z4, but it seems that there isn't much in the way of facts. We decided to dig into some research and find out what the truth actually was behind the Toyota and BMW partnership.
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Comments • 9 425

  • Gabe Weideman
    Gabe Weideman 7 months ago +1457

    I'm sitting here reading through the comments with a little bit of disbelief in the disrespect going on. How can people make a full judgment on a vehicle when they've not driven it yet? They made a saying for that situation in particular. I thought your video gave everyone more than enough reason to WANT to drive this car, but it seems like most the people who commented hardly watched at all, and had their mind made up before they had even started. It's people like this that are ruining the car culture and car scene. Forcing good, well made, torch carrying cars into the ground because they couldn't get off their high horse of nostalgia. Fantastic video and keep doing what your doing. It is, as you said, the UNTOLD TRUE STORY, that people need to hear.

    • Specter Cat
      Specter Cat 10 days ago


    • frank white
      frank white 12 days ago

      Gabe Weideman the true story is it’s a rebadged BMW Z4 and as gay as that car is ..... it will never be a 2jzgte. The 2 j the as designed by Toyota and Yamaha to beat the group a rb26 ITb . It was the most over engineered i6 ever made

    • frank white
      frank white 12 days ago

      Gabe Weideman well you suck biatch. Own mk4 Supra? Then u got the last Supra

  • Steve N
    Steve N 21 hour ago +1

    well.... Toyota dropped the ball on this big time! I went to see it in person the other day and i was extremely disappointed. from the prototype they gave us a couple of years ago, to the finished product, is total shit!!! if i wanted to buy the z4 i would have. Toyota had the chance of a lifetime, and the design team ate a shit sandwich. I would fire everyone on that team and start over.

  • Hillfort Garage Customs end off

    Rebadging happens all the time, one good example for this is the renault traffic van, it got labeled the vauxhall vivaro and a nissan primastar and there was no big kick off like the mk5 supra, me personaly i dont like the new supra as im old school, hot hatches, coupes etc etc just aint the same with all the modern cars, to many safety features make it not a drivers cars, a true petrol head will understand

    RUFFIN PATTERSON 2 days ago

    Well done, informative video.

  • Todd Weber
    Todd Weber 4 days ago

    So they are cousins from the same dna . Same same but different .

  • Akabuena
    Akabuena 6 days ago

    "... always driver should center of..."

  • Lil_ Joey
    Lil_ Joey 7 days ago


  • bradxvIII
    bradxvIII 7 days ago

    Kansei engineering to help bmw !! sounds exiting to me!!! but after chris bangle era i stay alert !!!

  • Cirilo Camacho
    Cirilo Camacho 7 days ago

    Bmw helped to make the 2jz or designed it something like that. Haha!.

  • Slappy Fistwad
    Slappy Fistwad 7 days ago

    Let's face it, this is a yuppy toy. Everyone else simply buys a 240sx or FRS and swaps in whatever (including a nice manual)

  • Tiago Valente
    Tiago Valente 7 days ago

    Bmw z4 looks better

  • Big Sky 1991
    Big Sky 1991 9 days ago

    That voice-over though! Sounds like that guy on "Cheaters" lol!

  • mrpmj00
    mrpmj00 9 days ago

    I sat in a supra yesterday. DIdn't like the 6 fake holes in the seat headrests (in addition to the 10 fake exterior vents). Outward visibility is terrible, the windshield's vertical height is so short between the dash cluster and ceiling, also short is the vertical height between the top of the infotainment screen and bottom of the rearview mirror.

  • Joe Smartballs
    Joe Smartballs 9 days ago

    Truth is Toyota blew money making 4 prototypes instead of making one good car.

  • blowingupyourmind
    blowingupyourmind 10 days ago +1

    0-60 in 3.8 seconds for 49,000 not bad

  • André N. Flottmann
    André N. Flottmann 11 days ago

    BMW know how to make awesome cars.

  • Aaron Brewster
    Aaron Brewster 11 days ago

    Thx a lot for the information bro.

  • zuhaili shufller
    zuhaili shufller 11 days ago +2

    Newsflash! A steering column on MK V Supra has failed and it's similar to BMW steering column issue. Are you sure about Toyota tested all BMW parts used. I'm highly doubtful.

    • mrjjthor Thor
      mrjjthor Thor 3 days ago

      So much for Toyota testing every bolts and rivets as claimed. It's a known problem in the BMW community and Toyota didn't look at the steering column?

    • skyu777 ayala
      skyu777 ayala 8 days ago

      imagine going 60 near a curve and your steering wheel fail to respond.

  • Ammar Al Belushi
    Ammar Al Belushi 12 days ago

    Nice and Rich Video 👍🏼

  • spitfirezip100
    spitfirezip100 12 days ago

    Thank you! I've been trying to find the answers to a lot of questions, which you answered in your video. It seem then that the Supra/Z4 was more of a joint development! If indeed the B58 motor has benefited from Toyota's reliability improvements, the car may have a shot at being reliable.

    There are so many angry comments online about this car and it was apparent even before I saw your video that many of them were not well informed about the development of this vehicle. I even registered for one of the older Supra forums around and found it a cesspool of angry children hating on a car they did not understand and hadn't driven.

    Thank you for the information.

  • yevgeniy litvinov
    yevgeniy litvinov 14 days ago

    This car reminds me of a bmw 550i or "BMW F10" except it's a v6... they shoulda made a 12 speed manual.. meaning dual clutch so as your slowing down the other clutch is speeding up.... launch you like a rocket

  • Adam Baldwin
    Adam Baldwin 18 days ago

    Great video! The armchair speculation surrounding these cars is a bit absurd, and we really should be celebrating the fact that these vehicles were brought to market. I must admit that the interior of the Supra is, in my opinion, disappointingly too much BWM and not enough Toyota. And while I would still love to drive the Supra, the lack of a manual transmission option would prevent me from buying one.

    I'm not completely sold on the styling of the Supra, either. Toyota's current design language is, for me, quite hit or miss. It seems like every so often they come up with a redesign that looks great, but is surrounded by other vehicles that just don't look good to me. (I largely feel the same way about Honda's more recent offerings, too.) I won't even get into some of the stuff they've done with Lexus. From a design perspective, the Supra looks okay in a lot of ways, great from certain angles (especially the rear), but overly complicated or outright weird from other angles. The front end in particular seems a bit off.

    I miss car designs that had simpler lines, less creases and swoops and superfluous edges that only serve to clutter everything up. It seems like manufacturers these days regard clean designs as boring or something, as if everything has to look complicated in order to stand out. One needs only to look back at the Mk IV Supra for a great example of a car with simple, clean lines that looks great. Even exotic manufacturers like Ferrari are doing this. I think almost anything they've made in the past 10 years pales stylistically in comparison even with many of their cars from the 80's. I think Lamborghini is about the only company who can consistently pull off complicated designs that look good, but even then, these modern designs are starting to make cars like the Murcielago look classic.

    Getting back to the Supra though, I really need to see one in person. Actually, I'd like to see several in person, in different colors. I imagine I'd probably like the styling a lot more if I saw it up close.

  • Liver Pool
    Liver Pool 18 days ago

    Stlll gtr is the beast...

  • Romel H
    Romel H 19 days ago

    Awesome video. Very well made.

  • kodeshian1
    kodeshian1 21 day ago

    Interesting, I hate it less now, thanks.

  • Shafii Sigera
    Shafii Sigera 22 days ago

    with that amount of work, i dnt believe they will ever make another supra in Europe,

  • foxhounduk2k8
    foxhounduk2k8 22 days ago +1


    • mrjjthor Thor
      mrjjthor Thor 3 days ago +1

      Ditto. And there are two mkv owners with steering rack issues already which is also a problem in the BMW community. Mkv fanboys will believe everything Toyota tells them. C&D also did a test and found out the Supra does not have a lower center of gravity than the 86. The only good lie about the mkv Supra is that it's making more power than claimed.

  • Danial Pham
    Danial Pham 24 days ago

    Great video. Love the unbiased perspective. It's good to know that Germany doesn't allow itself to stoop down to rebadging standards and that Japan still has it's pride intact.
    Good stuff, this vehicle is definitely on my list.

    • mrjjthor Thor
      mrjjthor Thor 3 days ago

      Actually Albon is quite biased. On the forum he attacks anyone who doesn't like the mkv. Better reviews would be from Savagegeese.

  • johnny Macon
    johnny Macon 25 days ago +1

    Just wait until that bmw engine start having major engine problems ruining Toyota’s reputation for reliability that partnership will fall apart and it will rock the industry worse than the Mercedes Chrysler marriage and eventually a bad divorce LoL 😂

  • Hilly 451
    Hilly 451 25 days ago

    Its a BMW seriously.. Ok so the engine is BMW the Suspension is BMW.. The hole interior is BMW apart from the Rev Counter 🤨 its engine bay has BMW all over the place... The Supra is Toyotas signature car just an absolute brilliant machine..it almost like the pressure to bring out a new version of the car was to much and they settled for the easy way out its just a z4 😔

  • intellybit
    intellybit 26 days ago

    here is a cool delivery of the 2020 supra.. your video is cool check out this one thexvid.com/video/Xy26j1OC5N0/video.html

  • PgAdi PgAdiRoy
    PgAdi PgAdiRoy 27 days ago

    Gtr godzilla is my favourite sport car

  • Prankstar.
    Prankstar. 27 days ago

    This is not a Toyota, its a bmw! Toyota need to make a engine with Yamaha have a 6 speed manual and get rid of that fucking idrive.

  • Raul Almanzar
    Raul Almanzar 27 days ago


  • Arthur Hylton
    Arthur Hylton 27 days ago

    Really Great & In-Depth Video Bruv.

  • i vdub
    i vdub 27 days ago

    Torque converters are trash. If you going to do Automatic do Dual Clutch.

  • inox1ck
    inox1ck 27 days ago

    The colaboration between engineers shoud be exciting for both parts

  • Aref Farook
    Aref Farook 27 days ago

    stupid people still manufacturing these gresy dinosaurs

  • Suphad Thundee
    Suphad Thundee 27 days ago +1

    Toyota is a very honest car company .

  • al dee
    al dee 27 days ago

    I remember the chevy Nova. It was a piece of shit. Who would have thought Chevy would stoop so low as to put the Nova badge on a Toyota. The last Chevy I had was a 1972 R/S Chevy Camaro after that I lost interest in Chevy. I've only brought Ford and keep products.

  • Lauro Legaspi
    Lauro Legaspi 28 days ago +1

    Who created MkV supra?

  • Paul Mark
    Paul Mark 28 days ago

    Great video but, along comes the new Corvette and........

  • Grape Seed
    Grape Seed 28 days ago

    Yoir accent is all over the place one moment it sounds geman than british than american make uo your mind on wht accent you want

  • King Diola
    King Diola 28 days ago

    It's a good car but why use the legendary Supra name. Why?

  • WeAreNotAlone69
    WeAreNotAlone69 29 days ago

    My concern is parts cost and availability out of of warranty
    I project alot of item being N/A.. parts being available but only sold.in sets @ big $$$$

  • koreagt ko
    koreagt ko 29 days ago

    scammers scams scam BMWgerman user japan toyota supra I6 3000 3.0 liter engine cheating cheat scam BMW shitty shit sucker germany german your enemy enemies they against us the u.s your shit WWII

  • koreagt ko
    koreagt ko 29 days ago

    scammers scams scam BMWgerman user japan toyota supra I6 3000 3.0 liter engine cheating cheat scam BMW shitty shit sucker germany german your enemy enemies they against us the u.s your shit WWII

  • koreagt ko
    koreagt ko 29 days ago

    scammers scams scam BMWgerman user japan toyota supra I6 3000 3.0 liter engine cheating cheat scam BMW shitty shit sucker germany german your enemy enemies they against us the u.s your shit WWII

  • koreagt ko
    koreagt ko 29 days ago

    scammers scams scam BMWgerman user japan toyota supra I6 3000 3.0 liter engine cheating cheat scam BMW shitty shit sucker germany german your enemy enemies they against us the u.s your shit WWII

    POWER & WILL 29 days ago +1

    It's a BMW. End of story

    POWER & WILL 29 days ago +1

    Idk why they even wasted are time

  • Mark Strong
    Mark Strong Month ago +1

    This car will largely be a flop for the simple reason it's fugly. The original MKIV wasn't exactly beautiful. but with a nice set of wheels and the shopping cart wing it stood out. This new one is best seen from a distance - the C8 vette is far superior

    • mrjjthor Thor
      mrjjthor Thor 3 days ago

      If you follow some of the mkv sales it sold more than the 86/brz combined in its first month. However, with the release of the C8 nearby dealers are having a hard time even selling at MSRP! There's been some Supras near me selling at MSRP but still sitting. I think for those who really wanted a mkv have already got theirs. Their sales might be steady but IMO I think the Supra will sell poorly. As soon as I saw bmw written all over it I went ahead and bought a different sports car.

  • Oscar Ramirez
    Oscar Ramirez Month ago

    It looks like shit. Terrible.

  • CPA marketingacademy
    CPA marketingacademy Month ago +1

    BMW out of all the brands in the world 🤣🤣🤣🤣wtf is wrong with you Toyota?? Don't worry sells will make you understand your mistake.

  • Travis Atwood
    Travis Atwood Month ago

    Why is there only two exhaust ports tho?

  • 59vaughn
    59vaughn Month ago

    Brz missed it's opportunity....it was the successor...Shuda used a flat six turbo...as the next level...oh well....


    Well done good sir

  • Alexis Jordan Schreiner

    Haha whats next a mustang with a 4 banger!? Oh wait.

  • Garry Reyom
    Garry Reyom Month ago

    Two of my three favorite car companies

  • fricc you
    fricc you Month ago

    There is Subaru BRZ and toyota 86 and y’all out here complaining about the Supra?