Final Verdict - $1500 Gaming PC Secret Shopper pt4

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  • changsifon
    changsifon 20 hours ago

    12:35 - i3-8100.. where is the i5 ?

  • SlickSnoopy
    SlickSnoopy 23 hours ago

    Hey Origin. Nice Console you got there, bit overpriced though.

  • Randomness
    Randomness 23 hours ago

    Great series

  • Audherbagn
    Audherbagn Day ago

    why does everyone use msi?

  • Henry M.
    Henry M. Day ago

    Ivan is cringy.

  • Il Cuggino Canadese

    That Origin PC looks to me like a hyper expensive Xbox One.

  • Jeron plays
    Jeron plays Day ago

    is there any Australia website for this computer websites like this?

  • Justin Borriello

    i don't care what anyone says, if i ever buy a prebuilt maingear can take all my money

  • kevin ham
    kevin ham Day ago

    awesome costumes

  • G W
    G W Day ago

    Linus, start a PC building arm to your company and you will kill aliendell and co.

  • David Yoho
    David Yoho Day ago

    *SHEIT* 😂🤣😂 👍

  • Aeiou
    Aeiou 2 days ago +1

    That ORIGIN pc, what a joke.

  • High Desert Exile
    High Desert Exile 2 days ago

    ya should do this once every year, will end up making these builders and their tech support better I'd imagine

  • Timmy Morrison
    Timmy Morrison 2 days ago

    Hey I'm having the same problem with windows 10 holding 4g of ram
    any fix?

  • Gage Austin
    Gage Austin 2 days ago

    Would love to see ironside in this

  • Robert Germanelo
    Robert Germanelo 2 days ago

    All the downvotes are from Dell employees. Lol

  • Wistbacka
    Wistbacka 2 days ago

    Wtf Linus? You can stream very easy and well with shadowplay if you just want to stream with no fancy settings. And if you want fancy settings, you go streamlabs, not OBS. But for no frills streaming, shadowplay (or amd's equivalent) works plenty! I actually get vetter video quality with shadowplay than with streamlabs even at same settings and bitrate.

  • DerekSiems
    DerekSiems 2 days ago

    This the problem with PCs. Something needs to be done to streamline the experience of understanding the hierarchy of parts and the steps of assembly. If even the "professionals" don't understand the parts and can't plug things into the right slot when building them, this is a failure on the end of the people making these parts in the first place. Even the most seasoned PC youtubers will often be caught by surprise at how a CPU and GPU will bottleneck each other when they were sure they had a perfect paired performance match. Short of buying everything and benchmarking it all, there's almost no way to know what will really give the performance you want, and god help you if you have the wrong motherboard and the GPU won't fit or the CPU cooler interferes. It's like the only way to really know if your whole setup will be compatible and optimized for parity (without exhaustive googling) is to literally be a computer tech that builds systems all day.

  • DerekSiems
    DerekSiems 2 days ago

    Add in Microcenter Powerspec next time. I was going to build a PC from parts and somehow they annihilated any custom configurations I could come up with on price, even using websites that track sales, etc. The Windows has no bloatware on it and the build quality and cable management is excellent.

  • MrManslayerX
    MrManslayerX 2 days ago

    I bought an Origin PC, let me go over my experience with it.
    First I'll start off by saying, their support is pretty great. They're timely, they're responsive, and they actually help.
    However! I got their own AIO liquid cooler (Big mistake in retrospect, shoulda gotten a good brand) with unresolved air in the line. So I ended up having them send me a new one, sent the old one back, and this one AGAIN had unresolved air in the line!!! Before that point I've never messed around with liquid coolers (My old PC had a custom-milled copper block and fan solution) so I didn't want to risk bleeding the air out of the line myself and damaging it/something else.
    But it gets better, their paste job was utter shit on the connecting plate. It was a blob that was squished into maybe 2-3/5th of the entire space. Naturally, I cleaned all that off, hand polished both plates, and put my own thermal paste on.
    I'm quite happy with their silent fans, I've had this computer for about 2 and a half years now and this machine is holding up very well, and none of the fans are getting loose on their barings or anything. I just decided to deal with the slightly noisy liquid cooler, but that's because the warranty was up on my stuff. Next cooler I buy will be a reputable brand, that's for sure.
    That reminds me, I got their 32GB of Corsair Dominator Platinum 3000mhz RAM and one of the sticks ended up shitting out on me. What I didn't realize at the time was that Corsair had a lifetime warranty on their RAM (I was talking to one of my friends about PC building and hardware and Corsair RAM came up in conversation) and I was running on 16 GB of RAM at the time because the MOBO I have runs the RAM in pairs. I'm glad my dad told me to keep the stick that died, lol.
    Their cable management left some things to be desired, if I built a computer myself I'd have definitely ran the cables a bit more 'reversible' (They routed the cables through the back panel of the computer, and quite snugly, which made it extremely difficult to try and back-trace and re-run wires) which reminds me of another point, actually.
    The AIO cooler's power just died one day, and I found out that the pump for the liquid just stopped. I called up their support, and it turns out that the port that gave power to it died, so now I have the pump plugged directly into the motherboard power. Can't remember exactly how it went.
    The computer came with a factory image of the hard drives, and they properly set up fast booting on the Samsung 950 m.2 NVMe SSD, so good for them. The chassis I got came with a 5-bay hard drive solution behind the front panel of the computer, so that's pretty nice.
    I believe that's pretty much it though. Other than their shitty AIO coolers, I have had no other issues with my Origin PC.
    The RAM sticks weren't their own brand, so I'll waive that.
    When it comes to computer building I wouldn't say I'm great, but I at least have a pretty thorough idea of what I'm doing. I was thinking about building the computer myself, but at the end of the day, it only would have ended up in a couple hundred bucks in savings (Factoring in the free game promos and stuff I got at the time) So I decided I'd go with them.
    Wouldn't say I regret it, really. Other than their crap-chute AIO liquid cooling units, I'm satisfied with my Origin experience. Their support was on the ball, quick, responsive, and took the time to go through issues with me. The rest of the PC operates as expected.

  • stormchaser8472
    stormchaser8472 3 days ago

    Yeah when I got my Alienware 17 inch r3 that thing was a freaking nightmare when I got it I had to completely uninstall the drop sensor drivers just to get the thing to boot off the non nvme SSD under a couple of minutes the BIOS is complete crap on the thing along with their tech support.and what the hell I mean that thing can take to nvme ssds and then they put in that crappy non nvme thing what the hell. and what the heck is with having a 4K display on mine with only a GTX 970m in there it can't even run I think it was Left 4 Dead 2 on that damn thing running at 4K and not to mention all of the various hours and days I've spent trying to get that thing to run right!

  • Ryan Andrews
    Ryan Andrews 3 days ago

    Yes moar!!!!!

  • remy5405
    remy5405 3 days ago

    I just called eureka desk company about how to mod the desk and they had the engineer that designed the desk call me and he answered all my questions and told me how to do what i wanted to do without damaging the desk. Then askes if i would send him pictures of the result so he may try to implement it into v2

  • Joe Ly
    Joe Ly 3 days ago

    NZXT BLD service... Kinda surprised it wasn't considered.

  • atTravelspeed
    atTravelspeed 3 days ago

    Holy shit, my computer had 16GB ram and SSD drive in 2011, I can't believe today it's the same specks.

    NATURAL SPIRIT 3 days ago

    LMFAO,A Russian and CANDIAN who thinks they are 1856 Cowboys! LOL

  • Halbarz Felarrow
    Halbarz Felarrow 3 days ago

    I was expecting Origin to sponsor this video :P

  • Tony Hunt
    Tony Hunt 3 days ago

    I built a rig for a client over a year ago for $1500 that would eat these machines alive. All games loaded, OS perfect, all updates loaded, and everything OCed. No idea why the big boys in gaming couldnt have crushed me on this kind of work. But this is what happens when you have to pay 20 people to build and support a machine that shouldn't require any hassle in deployment...

  • Nick TheRogue
    Nick TheRogue 3 days ago

    This was a really great series, guys. It would be great to see something similar further down the line to see how the level of service and the value for money provided by each of these companies changes in, say, a year or two.

  • Chester Rico
    Chester Rico 3 days ago

    That Maingear thing is something I would build and sell.

  • Nick Wollman
    Nick Wollman 4 days ago

    Try out AVADirect Computers for next season!

  • Hyper Striker
    Hyper Striker 4 days ago

    mine uses like 5 gb of ram at idle lol

  • Braydon Turner
    Braydon Turner 4 days ago

    didnt you sponsor Origin

  • deminybs
    deminybs 4 days ago

    hey I just upgraded my system for a little over $1,500 ...
    minus the monitor\keyboard\mouse\case\and psu ..xD

  • Herobrine Player
    Herobrine Player 4 days ago

    I have a better value for only $1400(RTX 2070, 32GB RAM, i7-9700k, 1TB SSD)

  • Eduardo Llanos
    Eduardo Llanos 4 days ago

    I would like to see you guys add your version of a $1500 gaming system and have it benchmarked with the ones you purchased. Thanks for the video, I learned a lot!!

  • Daniel Petrella
    Daniel Petrella 4 days ago

    I really enjoyed this. Maingear would be what I would end up buying because I like the way they were.

  • harry
    harry 4 days ago

    core i5 in the origin pc but in the bios it says core i3 ???

  • Specaono
    Specaono 4 days ago

    That face mask lmao

  • Tuscani Tib
    Tuscani Tib 4 days ago

    i bought a Microtel prebuild for my wife to use for gaming. never had an issue with them or with the machine

  • Toaster N'Friends
    Toaster N'Friends 4 days ago

    iBuyPower and CyberPower PC, both used to be owned by the same company/people about 12 years ago though I don't know if that's still the case today. Anyway, my theory is that both companies make their largest profit margin off of shipping costs, they ship a boatload of DOAs or rigs requiring RMAs *AND THEY CHARGE FOR SHIPPING* in the vast majority of cases, even though the fuck ups are their own fault.

    • James Brock
      James Brock 3 days ago

      LOL, I always love coming across CyberPower bashers. While I am sure they are somewhat similar companies in how they package and sell Gaming Desktop PCs, I have had no dealings with IBuyPower so can't speak about them directly. I have no reason to believe your statement about them being owned under the same roof at one time; but that does not have any relevance though. Your statement about knock off parts simply has no basis either. Very much like someone recently trying to dissuade me from purchasing an i5-8600K through Walmart, who claimed to be of the same background as you, advising me it was much like the same endeavor of buying a TV from Walmart and how they have inferior parts put in their electronics they sell off the shelf While that MAY be true (yes, I have heard those tales as well and those involving Home Depot) to assert that Intel makes different spec i5-8600Ks? Ridiculous, just like trying to say that the ASUS M5A97 R2.0 MOBO found in one CypberPower's rigs is different from an ASUS M5A97 R2.0 MOBO found in another company's rig or the board itself being sold online somewhere, like at NEWEGG. The CPU showed up at my door in the same Intel box as would be found in any computer parts store or online seller. A GEFORCE GTX1070, is the same component in a CyberPower rig as sold thru NEWEGG. It all boils down to people being lazy and not doing their own research to learn the components and would rather have someone TELL them what to purchase instead of doing the research, seeing what is available in a pre-built rig and deciding for themselves if they are getting a good deal at the time of their purchase. The advantage of doing the research is knowing where you can or cannot, make improvements somewhere down the line to a rig you buy today, a rig that can be had for a good price pre-assembled bc some unionized over paid worker is not the one assembling it. As a consumer, who cares whether the person getting paid to put it together is getting $5.50/hr or $10.50/hr ?? At the minimum, be satisfied with the fact they are working.

    • Toaster N'Friends
      Toaster N'Friends 3 days ago

      +James Brock No, it's based on percentage, you'd think that would be implied but this is the internet after all.
      I've built hundreds of PCs, it was my job for much of my 20's, and the chances of getting faulty hardware are very slim. But places like CyberPower and iBuyPower are essentially souped up Chinese sweat shops with warehouses in the USA, and the quality of their builders is hit or miss, which is precisely why ordering a PC from them is hit or miss.

    • James Brock
      James Brock 4 days ago

      Would that be bc they actually SELL a BOATLOAD of rigs TNF? The higher the number sold, the more RMAs there will be; only logical. Buy their rigs from Best Buy or another seller then and avoid high shipping instead of directly from them then. Problem solved....

  • Connor Decker
    Connor Decker 4 days ago

    Basically what I've learned is people arent just mad that alienware sold out to dell, but that they are actually trash.
    I'm also further backed up that HP is junk.
    I'll never reccomend Origin.
    iBuyPower is actually ok when it comes to pre built and the other two are moderate.. but missing that 1500$ punch.

  • trant2b
    trant2b 4 days ago

    That's why I never call tech support for any kind of troubleshooting. They don't know anything more than me, and they assume I don't know crap too. I've NEVER had a problem solved by tech support. I figure out my own solution. If I'm really stuck, I refer to the internet or ask a friend.

  • Robbert Nyhan
    Robbert Nyhan 4 days ago

    You guys should do a second season, but instead of cost being the key factor, you guys need to choose one spec that each computer will have, and see which company sends you the better computer based on performance. So basically, have up to a $3000 budget for each rig, but say each one HAS to have a GTX 1070, or an i9 9800k, and all the other base specs are just which ever the companies recommend when you choose to get that one specific part. You could end up with a whole range of different motherboards, ram configs, HDD configs, etc. let the season 2 game begin!

  • Thejas G R
    Thejas G R 4 days ago

    I couldn't be more happy with this series, love the whole detective theme of it also

  • Hmm Doh
    Hmm Doh 4 days ago

    Hmm I’m thinking getting ryzen 7 2700x with Ausa strix or prime 450 mb (not sure which one) I’m a causal gamer btw But zen gen 3 coming soon should I wait for price drop maybe?

  • Henri Bergeron
    Henri Bergeron 4 days ago +2

    You should include Xidax in the next one.

  • Paul Riley
    Paul Riley 4 days ago

    Had to unsubscribe due to impeach trump propaganda commercials!!!!!! Really liked this channel!!!!!

  • Michael Meow
    Michael Meow 4 days ago

    I feel like they've been sponsored by origin before... Awkward.

  • David Cook
    David Cook 4 days ago

    computers are cool man, you guys really did it!

  • addikt
    addikt 5 days ago

    Am I missing something here with the Alienware? They had issue with dropped frames, replaced the drive and the issue went away. Then put the Alienware drive in another system, and had similar problems with that other machine. Could that not suggest a defective drive? Or -- and I'd only be guessing here, as I don't know the performance impact, if any -- maybe overhead from some kind of drive protection, such as Bitlocker is causing the issue? OBS would possibly drop frames in this case because it can't write them to disk fast enough, if disk is being used as a buffer, that is. Perhaps both encoding and calculating encryption hashes is too CPU intensive when done simultaneously?

  • Gene FG
    Gene FG 5 days ago

    YES WAS FUN, DO IT AGAIN! xoxo nohomo

  • Steven Smith
    Steven Smith 5 days ago

    I have a £650 gaming PC with 8gb of ram, 1050ti and pentium gold 5400 with nothing over locked and can run r6 siege on high settings at 120 fps, don't ask me how

  • Charles Green
    Charles Green 5 days ago

    #CSI Worthy 🤔👍

  • Ken Shaw
    Ken Shaw 5 days ago

    I remember when Alienware were good prebuilts. I actually told a friend to just buy one when he couldn't be bothered building his own rig. Then Dell bought them...

  • Beauty Bill
    Beauty Bill 5 days ago

    Next time add a local specialised shop

  • david daulby
    david daulby 5 days ago

    i would just hit the same companies again to see if they get any better and the ones who did good this time round swap out for new system sellers

  • Daniel Taylor
    Daniel Taylor 5 days ago

    Don’t buy prebuilt pc’s. Ever

  • Zach Jones
    Zach Jones 5 days ago

    Secret Shopper Laptop edition!

  • sighko_path
    sighko_path 5 days ago

    I'm really surprised and quite frankly disappointed Dell's support. Their support is the reason (at least in the South African corporate sphere) they are doing so incredibly well.

  • thomas allison
    thomas allison 5 days ago

    Its funny when I watch this video and then the very next Linus video I watch has Origins as a sponsor!!! BAHAHAHAH!!!!

  • Quivic
    Quivic 5 days ago

    I put together an i7-8700k 2080 strix for just under $2000 on pcpartpicker.


  • Josh Brown
    Josh Brown 5 days ago

    Forgot to say cyberpower came in last.

  • bobhumplick
    bobhumplick 5 days ago

    i had to help a friend with the 8700 in the hp omen system. downloaded intel xtu and raised the power limit and it mostly went away. its a shame.

  • Ben Doyle
    Ben Doyle 5 days ago

    You didn't get unlucky with Alienware, i have had 3 separate dell machines and have never had a good or quick experience.

  • robantsin
    robantsin 5 days ago

    Hey Linus, First off my name is Robert and I enjoy your show quite a bit and I think it is funny that one of your sponsors is making Linus proof products, LOL. I would suggest a double secret shopper(going in and doing an in-person purchase) situation for someone else. What I mean by this is they would go to every store twice. The first time they wouldn't buy anything(go in start talking to the staff as if they want to buy buts still needs to decide), this is to test how high pressure the sales staff are. The second time would be for the actual purchase itself(i would suggest you have a certain performance in mind when doing the purchase instead of a budget and compare how much each store would charge for comparable performance), to compare the quality of product and knowledge of staff. I would suggest making the first visit on a different day and different time of day from the second visit so that there is a chance the staff won't recognize them the second time. Don't forget having them to try and get customer service for the product(example is an issue with the ram like before) and see what they are willing to do in terms of refunds and exchanges(because there are not that many storefronts that are willing to pull out the ram stick and putting it back in to see if that was the issue with a computer for a customer, as customer service tech support, the exception being MemEx).
    PS. How would you record the video, when many of these companies have a zero tolerance policy on customers recording their purchase process?
    Suggested stores to stop at:
    -Memory Express
    -Best Buy
    -Microsoft Physical Storefront location
    -Staples (most products are geared towards workstations but you can get decent gaming computers from them too)

  • Bartosz Rogowski
    Bartosz Rogowski 6 days ago

    I loved the series. Especially the part about the tech support. I know quite a few people who reached out to me for help with computer hardware and I can't say I'm surprised they are scared to talk to anyone in local shops, not to mention calling tech support. I hope it becomes an annual series :-)

  • justair44
    justair44 6 days ago

    Ok, so not a fan of OEMs really but with the crypto craze last year it made sense to purchase one of my two systems (I build every 4 years) from one of them instead. I decided on (last feb.) A Aurora R7 tripped out and to build it myself would have cost me about $600 more overall at that time so it made sense. What I don't understand is looking at your price limit and dells deals.. how in the hell did you get a $1500 "US" system so sparsely configured? Should have came with at least a 1070, 256 M2 and likely a 850w psu ( bronze but whatever..) I don't get it...
    On the software side of things.. hmm.. Ok yeah your right, Mine loads up using a fair amount of memory as well.. I am going to have to look into that... The Command Center maybe? and the M2 drive isn't any faster than traditional SSDs and for the upgrade option to more storage they offer at a atrocious price.. you expect better. Still nothing that a 970 evo can't solve so I'd never look at a higher end upgrade to the M2 from Dell.

  • Hunter Grein
    Hunter Grein 6 days ago

    Ivan looking so fly like g6 in all white

  • Rannon
    Rannon 6 days ago

    It'd be nice if you could link to the older videos in the same series.

  • Steve James
    Steve James 6 days ago

    During the Black Friday sales in Nov I paid 1499.99 for this:
    HP Omen By HP Obelisk Desktop
    Intel Core i7 8700
    16GB 2666 HyperX system Memory
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080
    2TB Hard Drive + 256GB NVMe Solid State Drive

  • Wesley L
    Wesley L 6 days ago


  • fgreger
    fgreger 6 days ago

    Dang, intel now offers free upgrade to AMD CPUs?

  • Nicholas Rauer
    Nicholas Rauer 6 days ago

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    Nicholas Rauer 6 days ago

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    Nicholas Rauer 6 days ago

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  • Philipp Wie
    Philipp Wie 6 days ago

    It is actually obvious why HP plugs the AiO pump into the CPU Fan header, so that the system recognizes a CPU Fan Error when the pump fails. Having some case fan run while your CPU cooling is failing is suboptimal, so there you go: It's for safety.

  • Sox4life
    Sox4life 6 days ago

    The Origin i5 was pointless cause of the gpu

  • John B
    John B 6 days ago

    I bought the omen with gtx 1080 and ryzen 1800x for 1500CAD last week open box. Best decision ever made

  • CanadianLoki76
    CanadianLoki76 6 days ago

    Maingear seems to be the best company when it comes to buying in support and friendliness and the same in tech support. It might not have been the fastest, but that is only because of the spec, they have faster machines obviously.
    If I were to buy prebuilt, I would go with them.

  • Jesse Smiley
    Jesse Smiley 6 days ago

    @LinusTechTips I don’t game anymore... so this is my porn.

  • DᴀʀᴋYᴜᴀɴ
    DᴀʀᴋYᴜᴀɴ 6 days ago

    Yikes, are you going to be dropping recommending Origin PC as a sponsor?

  • NvrUseYur RealName
    NvrUseYur RealName 6 days ago

    26:15 - OMGosh, I TOTALLY LOST IT when he showed that patch! XD AAAHAHAHAHAHA!

  • Andrei Dicu
    Andrei Dicu 6 days ago

    That intro gets me every time Sir Linum :)

  • Daju
    Daju 7 days ago

    "- Use nvidia shadowplay for your frag vids."
    Is Linus serious, have he not watched TheXvid at all the last 10 years or so? Then what about editing our anime music videos with Linkin park songs and such?

  • epic man
    epic man 7 days ago

    You should try Best Buy

  • ChumblesMumbles
    ChumblesMumbles 7 days ago

    I hope the publish date of 12/25 wasn't too late for someone's Christmas present!

  • Babacheck Plainjane
    Babacheck Plainjane 7 days ago

    would very much like to see a secret shop of real gaming computers £5000.00 worth

  • sha do
    sha do 7 days ago

    LOVE IT!

  • Yisrael Sebbag
    Yisrael Sebbag 7 days ago

    Do this but for budget systems.

  • Artesion
    Artesion 7 days ago

    18:56 This is what it looks like when your the only white person in school.

  • José Candeias
    José Candeias 7 days ago

    This was actually awesome!! The costumer service insight is eye opening. You should do this more often! :D

  • Yisrael Sebbag
    Yisrael Sebbag 7 days ago

    LOL love how the Magnum PI references who remembers that show.

  • Jørgen B
    Jørgen B 7 days ago

    What are you doing with the pc's now that you're done?
    Why not do a giveaway when you're finished? :D

  • Dusty Magoo
    Dusty Magoo 7 days ago

    I watch your videos and daydream about these gaming computers lol, could not even afford a cheap one, keep up the great videos. Honestly looking at all the cool stuff you work on brings my ptsd down some, sounds strange but it does.

  • classyfenn
    classyfenn 7 days ago +1

    Next time I buy a pc, definitely going main gear

  • John Reynolds
    John Reynolds 7 days ago

    I liked this series. I hope you do this at least once or twice a year. I suggest having other build goals other than gaming if you do this more than once a year.

  • Project Proxy
    Project Proxy 7 days ago

    LOVE IT! GREAT SERIES! I'd be interested in some for Laptops, VR, Phones, Tablets, Mobile Plans/Internet Plans!!!! etc. Thank you for the awesome series, good job guys :D

  • o0o74
    o0o74 7 days ago

    why linus keep touching his D when he is talking about Dell

  • Jesus Salazar
    Jesus Salazar 7 days ago

    Origin was a huge ripoff for $1500 US dollars and to get a I5 with a GTX 1050 TI, wow.