Which Is Faster? High Speed 1 vs The Tube

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  • Published on Nov 8, 2019
  • I caught up with Andy from 'Calling All Stations' again, as we wanted to test out another fastest way between two points in London.
    As SouthEasterns High Speed 1 line doesn't appear on the Tube Map (because it's not a TfL service) you might overlook it as a way of getting to Stratford from King's Cross St. Pancras. But how long does it take anyway?
    Andy brought along two of his friends - Victoria and David, and we all went different ways to see which was the fastest!
    You can watch Andy's Video Here: thexvid.com/video/c-5-cs3z3FI/video.html and give his channel a subscribe whilst you're there!

Comments • 472

  • Geoff Marshall
    Geoff Marshall  3 days ago +86

    Also, I later realised that this video is 12:29 long, it wouldn't have been hard to edit it down to be 12:12 in length! *Why didn't i think of this sooner* Duh ...

    • John Airey
      John Airey Day ago

      @David S Hard to tell in a tunnel! However, it's stated acceleration is 1.6 mph per second which will take 87.5 seconds to get to 140mph however given that Eurostar is limited to 100mph in the channel tunnel I would doubt it's more under London.

    • David S
      David S Day ago

      John Airey I think it’s a bit faster than that 😉

    • John Airey
      John Airey Day ago

      @Matt Beardsworth I rode this train many times during the 2012 Paralympics. It's still accelerating when it starts braking, so as I say I think it just hits 100mph.

    • Kaseyap
      Kaseyap Day ago

      he must have taken the 12:18 train from LST

    • supasixfour
      supasixfour 2 days ago

      Trending - Good Work!

  • Tom U
    Tom U 20 hours ago

    A challenge for next year; catch a 01:01 (am or pm) on the 01/01 from platform 1 (any station). Catch a 02:02 on the 02/02 from platform 2. and so on.....12 nice episodes.

  • Alex Verdigris
    Alex Verdigris 20 hours ago

    "No Internationals trains stop at Stratford International."
    So not an international station then. Should be called "Stratford Local".

  • mckenzie403
    mckenzie403 23 hours ago

    Try and sit on the 25 bus from Central London to Stratford and see how long it will take. ( possibly a long time) 😂

  • aola wili
    aola wili 23 hours ago

    No one: "Hello ladies and gemtlrmen, we are just stuck at a red light signal"

  • Leonard Wilson
    Leonard Wilson Day ago

    I'm an American train enthusiast. I never heard of High Speed 1. I've heard of the Tube, DLR, and Crossrail, but not High Speed 1. Is it a new train system?

    • Geoff Marshall
      Geoff Marshall  21 hour ago

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_1
      Opened in 2003, it's for the Channel Tunnel trains which originally ran into Waterloo, but later a section was built to take the train into St Pancras instead, meaning that SouthEastern could also use the route to have very fast services between London and Kent.

  • alida flus
    alida flus Day ago

    Who likes javelins (train) 👇

  • Planet of the Deaf

    Never knew there was an Oyster fare between STP and Stratford Int, it's cheaper than I was expecting actually! I doubt I'd go to Stratford that way, but use the Javelins all the time to go to Kent

    • alida flus
      alida flus Day ago

      sure now 7 Circle/District to Victoria, victoria to Green Park, jubilee to Baker Street, Bakerloo to Paddington

  • monika laosi
    monika laosi Day ago

    its only 6miles or so... Goeff sould have tried running LOL

  • Joseph Kraw
    Joseph Kraw Day ago +1

    You took the 12:12 train at platform 12 and the video is 12 minutes 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 woow spot on

    • Joseph Kraw
      Joseph Kraw Day ago

      monika laosi really woow I wish southern trains was like this

    • monika laosi
      monika laosi Day ago

      I live in Folkestone right by folkestone central. I can be in st Pancras in less than an hour. Virtually always on time. Brilliant train

  • Juncus Bufonius
    Juncus Bufonius Day ago

    Nice one. Of course I'm thinking why would I care about 10min difference when taking the easiest route is easiest. I always leave in good time to arrive in time. You city folk are just strange ;-)

    • aola wili
      aola wili 23 hours ago

      Paddington 2. District to Earl's Court, district to Paddington 3. Circle/District to Victoria, victoria to Oxford Circus, Bakerloo to Paddington 4. Circle/District to Westminster, Jubil

  • dkb1234567890
    dkb1234567890 Day ago

    it would have been 45 mins slower with a wheelchair so the High Speed is definitely the superstar

  • Creeping Jane
    Creeping Jane Day ago

    “The journey not the arrival matters.” T S Eliot ". I would have taken Vicky's route

  • bilishu aliss
    bilishu aliss Day ago

    It takes 7 minutes to Stratford International by javelin hs1 and tube takes 20 mins and u got to walk to station

  • John Airey
    John Airey Day ago

    Hard to tell for sure but I think that train reaches 100mph in the tunnel before it arrives.

  • John Airey
    John Airey Day ago

    As a Gamesmaker in 2012 we were allowed to use this - at that time this wasn't included in Oyster fares.

  • Metro-North Productions

    Class 395 are terrible there more like a high capacity commuter train then a high speed service

    • Bungle2010
      Bungle2010 Day ago

      Er they ARE a commuter train..... How are they "terrible" exactly?

  • Martin Baines
    Martin Baines Day ago

    Like all these challenges it also depends on exactly where you want to start and end as walking time to that changes things. Even setting the rendez-vous point outside the other side of Stratford station might have given Andy the edge he needed to win.
    My default route for Kings Cross to Stratford would be one not mentioned here at all: Metropolitan Line to Mile End, then Central Line. Why? Because the interchange from Met to Central there is a simple cross platform one and much easier than any of the connections shown here. Being a subsurface line, the walk to the platforms at Kings Cross is shorter too. Whether the slower speed and less frequent trains of the long Met section makes up for that is left as an exercise for the reader.

    • Martin Baines
      Martin Baines Day ago

      @Bungle2010 DOH! Showing my age. The Hammersmith and City Line of course. Still the Met in my brain. :-)

    • Bungle2010
      Bungle2010 Day ago

      The Metropolitan line does not go to Mile End. It terminates at Aldgate.

  • bilias hour
    bilias hour Day ago

    It takes 7 minutes to Stratford International by javelin hs1 and tube takes 20 mins and u got to walk to station

  • Ian Razey
    Ian Razey Day ago

    Shouldn't Stratford International be renamed Stratford High Speed. Would make much more sense.

  • Simon Richards
    Simon Richards Day ago

    I'd like to have seen another method - a car!

    • Bungle2010
      Bungle2010 Day ago

      Slower than any of them. And will you pay their congestion charge?

  • Pir Oukay
    Pir Oukay Day ago

    Victoria's comment about the overground being so slow. Spot On. The overground looks modern but the slow, two carriage diesel powered snail train takes forever. I stopped using it, even though its my nearest station.

  • Hannah Miyamoto
    Hannah Miyamoto Day ago

    Stratford International is the station name, but you can't get to Europe? How does that happen?

  • IdeaPending
    IdeaPending 2 days ago

    Did you know the map in Daggerfall is 70hrs long...

  • Andrew Savage
    Andrew Savage 2 days ago

    St James's Park to Paddington is a similarly interesting route.
    I believe the tfl planner will give the following route options depending on what's best at that time:
    1. Circle to Paddington
    2. District to Earl's Court, district to Paddington
    3. Circle/District to Victoria, victoria to Oxford Circus, Bakerloo to Paddington
    4. Circle/District to Westminster, Jubilee to Baker street, Bakerloo to Paddington
    5. Circle/District to Embankment, Bakerloo to Paddington
    6. Bus (when service is winding down)

    It may have suggested a 7th, but I'm not sure now
    7 Circle/District to Victoria, victoria to Green Park, jubilee to Baker Street, Bakerloo to Paddington

  • Liam Bennett
    Liam Bennett 2 days ago +3

    I live in Folkestone right by folkestone central. I can be in st Pancras in less than an hour. Virtually always on time. Brilliant train

  • Andrew Battersby
    Andrew Battersby 2 days ago

    At least you have choices just come up north it's diesel pacer Vs diesel bus. And with dearer fares.

  • drsupremo88
    drsupremo88 2 days ago

    Nerds loool

  • cjbr cjbr
    cjbr cjbr 2 days ago

    3:26 “Platform 12 for the 12:12 Southeastern service to Margate”

  • Temi Banjo
    Temi Banjo 2 days ago +2

    Can you go Stratford to Canary Wharf race

    Routes:
    Jubilee
    DLR
    DLR - Jubilee
    Cable Car - Jubilee

  • ROY DAVIES
    ROY DAVIES 2 days ago

    Wow your on #38 Trending!

  • Stephen Brasher
    Stephen Brasher 2 days ago +4

    "We'll meet at the totem pole with the roundels". A true transport rendevous.

  • Mr Kris
    Mr Kris 2 days ago +1

    Am I the only person who finds it incredibly frustrating that you're not able to use an Oyster Travelcard on The Javlin? Come on South Eastern stop discriminating against us travelcard users.
    Rant over

    • Bungle2010
      Bungle2010 Day ago

      @Mr Kris It's not part of the London transport network. It's a completely separate privately owned railway.

    • Mr Kris
      Mr Kris Day ago

      @Bungle2010 St Pancras to Startford is not London?

    • David S
      David S 2 days ago +1

      It’s a special dedicated high speed service on dedicated high speed track. Use NR services out of Liverpool street instead.

    • Bungle2010
      Bungle2010 2 days ago

      Discriminating? Er everyone else has to pay extra for it, why should you get a free ride just because you have a Travel card? Travel card is for London. HS1 is not a London service.

  • Noah Bowie
    Noah Bowie 2 days ago

    I'm a West Ham fan and I live in Camden Town so I use southeastern high speed pretty much every match day I can go to. It gets really busy on match days

  • PRAR Rennie
    PRAR Rennie 2 days ago

    No Vicky :-( She could have done KXSP - Mile End for Central Line forward.

  • Casper Trains
    Casper Trains 2 days ago

    Super video

  • Casper Trains
    Casper Trains 2 days ago

    Super video

  • leslie edwards
    leslie edwards 2 days ago

    Thanks thanks Jeff tec and Andy team love seeing you run around the London and seeing places on the underground that I've never seen

  • K1W1fly
    K1W1fly 3 days ago

    It wasnt "Dr K" on the Piano was it?

  • Matt Evans
    Matt Evans 3 days ago +7

    "Trains leaving this station can be very busy. Especially during rush hour"

    I don't know what's stupider, the comment about rush hour, or the fact some people need to be told this.

  • TinRobot
    TinRobot 3 days ago

    St Pancras is my station but I never knew about the high speed to stratford. Normally go to bank then dlr.

    • Bungle2010
      Bungle2010 2 days ago

      Of course you didn't........

  • David Daniel Wouters

    so tube fare is either paper ticket or oyster/contactless but the first price listing is for the supposed hi speed one through oyster/contactless, right?

  • Jean Bonnefoy
    Jean Bonnefoy 3 days ago +1

    Fun fact: we did almost the same, going to and back from Margate two months ago: the challenge was to find the fastest way btw Stratford Int'l and Clapham Junction... !!!

  • the lorax
    the lorax 3 days ago +4

    As an Australian, it's always weird to hear UK and American people refer to Westfield. I don't think of it as an export.

    • Bungle2010
      Bungle2010 2 days ago +1

      Just don't mention Bunnings.....
      I didn't know that Westfield was from Australia btw.

  • peebee143
    peebee143 3 days ago

    Was that a little Andrew Barclay or an Avonside loco on the plinth behind you four??

  • Zieger Xiao
    Zieger Xiao 3 days ago

    Try Victoria to Brixton next time

  • cadan Eurostar
    cadan Eurostar 3 days ago

    It takes 7 minutes to Stratford International by javelin hs1 and tube takes 20 mins and u got to walk to station

  • SpaghettiTrain
    SpaghettiTrain 3 days ago +1

    No one:
    "Hello ladies and gemtlrmen, we are just stuck at a red light signal"

  • SpaghettiTrain
    SpaghettiTrain 3 days ago

    Do a race between the shit circle line Vs the Thameslink

  • Owen Mair
    Owen Mair 3 days ago

    7:08

  • Owen Mair
    Owen Mair 3 days ago

    Is that a fire alarm going of at 6.24

  • lance budd
    lance budd 3 days ago

    Even I know hs1 is quicker

  • Ken Jones
    Ken Jones 3 days ago

    So do you have any information about the saddle tank locomotive which is shown when you are together at Stratford?

    • Ken Jones
      Ken Jones 3 days ago

      brilliant info - thank you

    • Geoff Marshall
      Geoff Marshall  3 days ago

      www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2018/04/04/have-you-met-robert-the-tank-engine-at-stratford/

  • TRiG (Ireland)
    TRiG (Ireland) 3 days ago

    That wasn't boogie woogie on the piano. Not Dr K, so.

  • JAsoldi3r
    JAsoldi3r 3 days ago

    i do love these types of vidoes from you

  • Sexual Chocolate Robbie

    Northern line to London Bridge then Jubilee line to Stratford could be faster than the last two journey.

  • Coz Paynes
    Coz Paynes 3 days ago +1

    Public transport in UK? Probably walking

  • Oliver Clements
    Oliver Clements 3 days ago +16

    I live right by Stratford International and the HS1 is the next best thing to teleportation

  • David O'Silverman
    David O'Silverman 3 days ago

    Better tube journey might be Metropolitan/Circle/H&C to Liverpool Street then Central Line to Stratford.

  • Nick Jones
    Nick Jones 3 days ago

    Can you use this route for free if you have a zone 1-2 season ticket?

    • Bungle2010
      Bungle2010 3 days ago +1

      No. Travelcards aren't valid. It's not part of the zonal system.