Which Is Faster? High Speed 1 vs The Tube

  • Published on Nov 8, 2019
  • I caught up with Andy from 'Calling All Stations' again, as we wanted to test out another fastest way between two points in London.
    As SouthEasterns High Speed 1 line doesn't appear on the Tube Map (because it's not a TfL service) you might overlook it as a way of getting to Stratford from King's Cross St. Pancras. But how long does it take anyway?
    Andy brought along two of his friends - Victoria and David, and we all went different ways to see which was the fastest!
    You can watch Andy's Video Here: thexvid.com/video/c-5-cs3z3FI/video.html and give his channel a subscribe whilst you're there!

Comments • 567

  • Geoff Marshall
    Geoff Marshall  2 months ago +164

    Also, I later realised that this video is 12:29 long, it wouldn't have been hard to edit it down to be 12:12 in length! *Why didn't i think of this sooner* Duh ...

    • Norbiton Flyer
      Norbiton Flyer 2 months ago +1

      @David S As it covers the six miles in six minutes the average speed is 60mph. It is unlikely that it hits 120mph at any point in that journey.

    • John Airey
      John Airey 2 months ago +1

      @David S Hard to tell in a tunnel! However, it's stated acceleration is 1.6 mph per second which will take 87.5 seconds to get to 140mph however given that Eurostar is limited to 100mph in the channel tunnel I would doubt it's more under London.

    • David S
      David S 2 months ago

      John Airey I think it’s a bit faster than that 😉

    • John Airey
      John Airey 2 months ago +2

      @Matt Beardsworth I rode this train many times during the 2012 Paralympics. It's still accelerating when it starts braking, so as I say I think it just hits 100mph.

  • Dave Evans
    Dave Evans 3 days ago

    and just like that I went from 0-100 train nerd.

  • Nuril Ahmed
    Nuril Ahmed 4 days ago

    haha i lost it at totem pole

  • Andrew Berwick
    Andrew Berwick 6 days ago

    I use that entrance all the time :)

  • TheGerkuman
    TheGerkuman 12 days ago

    Good ol' HS1

  • Luka Mitrovic
    Luka Mitrovic 15 days ago

    Do Northen Line vs 139 from Golders Green to Waterloo.

  • Kenneth Lenz
    Kenneth Lenz 25 days ago

    Who is from Germany too?

  • alison norcross
    alison norcross 26 days ago

    Is it possible to love an snorak

  • Rubix Rx
    Rubix Rx 29 days ago

    Why is it called "Stratford International" if it has no international services? Should it not be called maybe "Stratford Parkway" or "Stratford Connect" something that doesn't mislead people that are not from the area or tourist.

    • Bungle2010
      Bungle2010 27 days ago

      Because it was designed and built to have international services. Why would it be called "Parkway" when it's not a parkway station? And I don't know what the last part means tbh?

    • Oscar W.
      Oscar W. 28 days ago +1

      Rubix Rx maybe stratford chavs

  • Phil Reynolds
    Phil Reynolds Month ago

    That way in and out of SFA is used frequently by me, at least, as it is one of my local stations, and very convenient if I need to get to St Pancras or King's Cross, either to do something in the area or to get a train to Derby or Leeds.

  • Lights Camera ACTION

    What do you mean by tube fair? Getting ticket from underground ticket machine?

  • TheSmithersy
    TheSmithersy Month ago

    Interestingly, if you had an Olympic issued Oyster during 2012, High Speed to Stratford was included. I know this as I did it.

    • Bungle2010
      Bungle2010 27 days ago

      Probably because services were specifically altered to serve the Olympics. It was bit of a pita for me actually. When I went to the Saturday evening athletics, instead of being able to just go to the station and catch a direct train home, like I normally can, I had to travel in the opposite direction, into central London, and make my way to Victoria to catch a train home from there instead.

  • Frank Mimnagh
    Frank Mimnagh Month ago

    Another great video Geoff, thank you.
    I believe that the South Eastern HS trains travel up to 140mph through the tunnels between Stratford and St Pancras.

  • DJOS
    DJOS Month ago

    16:01 Rip Headphone users!

  • Jamie Nash
    Jamie Nash Month ago +1

    What about fenchurch street and tower hill to upminster

    • Bungle2010
      Bungle2010 Month ago

      Not much point. FS would win hands down. There are a ton of stations between TH and UM on the Tube, and the trains are a lot slower.

  • Thomas Brookes
    Thomas Brookes Month ago

    Love that the annocer on platforms can be very busy

  • Nick Scales
    Nick Scales Month ago

    I think an All The Stations suffixed 'International' is due. Ebbsfleet, Stratford,Ashford, Birmingham, Harwich is overdue.

  • Solitude Guard
    Solitude Guard Month ago

    2:41 Dr. K?

  • Slavömir Tancös
    Slavömir Tancös Month ago

    I live in gravesend, and it basically takes me 18 minutes to get to London

  • Robin Hillyard
    Robin Hillyard Month ago

    You guys don't know how lucky you are actually having even one choice, let alone four or more ;) Loved both videos.

  • Matty
    Matty Month ago +1

    New favourite channel Geoff! Love the content, keep up the hard work!

  • Alex Marsen-Forrest

    Should of gone on the DLR to Stratford

  • Anthony Tull
    Anthony Tull Month ago

    Hi Geoff, could we compare the Conventional Route verse Cross-Platform Interchange Only Route for Transfer between Euston and Marylebone. The Route I often use it Euston (Main) to Green Park, switch and come one-stop back to Oxford Circus, then switch again to the Bakerloo Line for Marylebone. This avoids the Up and Down at Oxford Circus. There would also be 3 other options to try, Walking the Whole of it (about 30 minutes), Euston Square to Baker Street, then Walk, Euston Square to Baker Street then Bakerloo Line. Many thanks, Anthony.

  • Ann Other
    Ann Other Month ago

    The second guy arrived out of breath!! Blatantly been running, the cheat!!

  • qjtvaddict
    qjtvaddict Month ago

    Bro it’s on the London regional rail map which includes tube trains why do people still use the tube only map when the fares for all trains is literally the same

    • Ann Other
      Ann Other Month ago

      Maybe they don't want to pay more on their oyster for these sneaky lines.

    • Bungle2010
      Bungle2010 Month ago

      They aren't though..........

  • Rafael Sabbat
    Rafael Sabbat Month ago

    1:47 So, the Totem Pole shows from bottom to top:
    - TfL Rail (RER-style Commuter rail services)
    - Overground (S-Bahn type services)
    - DLR (Light Railway, Docklands supplement to the Underground)
    - National Rail (Commuter and Inter-city rail services)
    - Underground (Metro-style service)
    That is highly mixed up, if not messed up. My 'recommendation' for a renewal of this pole (necessary latest once the #PurpleTrain is officially up and running) - bottom to top:
    - DLR*
    - Underground*
    - Overground
    - Cross/Elizabeth Link/Rail/Express
    - National Rail
    * can be exchanged

  • Bravefulment276
    Bravefulment276 Month ago

    Geoff! Please try the Victoria Line's Longest Tunnel between SEVEN SISTERS and FINSBURY PARK from Zone 2 to Zone 3

  • Coldclough
    Coldclough Month ago

    Bakerloo or Jubilee Baker Street to Waterloo

  • Natt Wiltshaw
    Natt Wiltshaw Month ago

    Probably could have been very close by going hammersmith and city line to mile end and get a central line 1 stop to stratford!

  • Peter Harris
    Peter Harris Month ago

    once went to paris on the way back we slept so had to go back to ebbsfleet via st pancrease and late at night

  • Henrys Adventures
    Henrys Adventures Month ago

    I enjoyed watching that although I had a forgone conclusion which would be fastest! Why don't you do "Westfield Stratford to Westfield White City", that would be interesting!

  • Kenneth Dunn
    Kenneth Dunn Month ago

    Interesting trips. I don’t think you used the shorted walking route from International to Stratford Station. I recall when I last did it, if you turn tight at the over bridge there are some steps upto a centre entrance to the shopping centre then turn left and follow directions.

  • ThaiGooner94
    ThaiGooner94 Month ago

    There is a reason the train called 'high speed'.

  • ChrisInTheNorth
    ChrisInTheNorth 2 months ago

    If this was meant to be a public transport test, then walking through the shopping centre seems strange if Geoff could have taken a docklands to the main Stratford station? Would that have been quicker?

    • Bungle2010
      Bungle2010 2 months ago

      ChrisInTheNorth Probably not if there was a wait.

  • Luke Clary
    Luke Clary 2 months ago

    Please please do a Cable Car vs DLR/Tube

  • Fausto Brindisi
    Fausto Brindisi 2 months ago

    Dear Friend:
    I am a fervent admirer of the railways and next year I will visit England for 12 days, the cities of London, York, Liverpool and Manchester. I am interested in knowing some station around London to observe the trains at speed. Which would you recommend for filming train passes at good speed? Many thanks and warm regards from Argentina, Fausto.-

  • Hannah Whitehouse
    Hannah Whitehouse 2 months ago +1

    I take the 12:12 from Platform 12 (to Canterbury West) regularly...so satisfying!

  • Mason Bennett
    Mason Bennett 2 months ago

    What class was it

  • irelandbloke
    irelandbloke 2 months ago

    Excellent video 👍🏻

  • Paul Whitear
    Paul Whitear 2 months ago

    Why is Stratford an int station when know int trains stop there. Strange

    • suburbia1950
      suburbia1950 Month ago

      The original plan was for the Eurostar trains to stop there (East London/Stratford was a strategic growth area before the Olympics), but then they calculated it wasnt worth delaying the Eurostar for a 10 minutes station dwell time at a station 7 minutes away from its starting point; they would rather shave off minutes to market to business customers who would usually fly. Plus there wasnt exactly a huge demand from the local population for trains to Paris. That might change in 20 years though. The current situation is I would imagine it's not worth the far greater confusion if they renamed it to "Stratford"!

    • Bungle2010
      Bungle2010 2 months ago

      Because they were supposed to.

  • Mark Griffiths
    Mark Griffiths 2 months ago

    ...I really wish they would re-name 'Stratford International' to something like 'Stratford High Speed'

    • Mark Griffiths
      Mark Griffiths Month ago

      @Bungle2010 errh, you obviously miss-read my comment, I said Stratford High SPEED! The station is on a High Speed Railway Line!

    • Bungle2010
      Bungle2010 2 months ago

      It's nowhere near Stratford High Street..........
      And what for anyway?

  • EpicMass123
    EpicMass123 2 months ago +2

    2:10. How sad 😂😂

  • AL PD
    AL PD 2 months ago

    This might be the most upper middle class thing I have ever watched

    • peezedtee
      peezedtee 2 months ago

      You mean lower middle class. Upper middle class go by taxi

    • Bungle2010
      Bungle2010 2 months ago

      AL PD Riiiiiiiight......

  • gritintheoyster
    gritintheoyster 2 months ago

    Excellent as always, Geoff.

  • yroohj gouy
    yroohj gouy 2 months ago

    3:26 “Platform 12 for the 12:12 Southeastern service to Margate”

  • Isaac Nemzer
    Isaac Nemzer 2 months ago

    Vicky would have been top 2 no matter her route on willpower alone

    • yroohj gouy
      yroohj gouy 2 months ago

      As a Gamesmaker in 2012 we were allowed to use this - at that time this wasn't included in Oyster fares.

  • wnnalis cioov
    wnnalis cioov 2 months ago

    3:26 “Platform 12 for the 12:12 Southeastern service to Margate”

  • Tom U
    Tom U 2 months ago

    A challenge for next year; catch a 01:01 (am or pm) on the 01/01 from platform 1 (any station). Catch a 02:02 on the 02/02 from platform 2. and so on.....12 nice episodes.

    • aola wili
      aola wili 2 months ago

      It takes 7 minutes to Stratford International by javelin hs1 and tube takes 20 mins and u got to walk to station

  • Alex Verdigris
    Alex Verdigris 2 months ago

    "No Internationals trains stop at Stratford International."
    So not an international station then. Should be called "Stratford Local".

    • wnnalis cioov
      wnnalis cioov 2 months ago +1

      that is left as an exercise for the reader.

  • Stephen McKenzie
    Stephen McKenzie 2 months ago

    Try and sit on the 25 bus from Central London to Stratford and see how long it will take. ( possibly a long time) 😂

    • aola wili
      aola wili 2 months ago

      that is left as an exercise for the reader.

  • aola wili
    aola wili 2 months ago +2

    No one: "Hello ladies and gemtlrmen, we are just stuck at a red light signal"

  • Leonard Wilson
    Leonard Wilson 2 months ago

    I'm an American train enthusiast. I never heard of High Speed 1. I've heard of the Tube, DLR, and Crossrail, but not High Speed 1. Is it a new train system?

    • Geoff Marshall
      Geoff Marshall  2 months ago +1

      Opened in 2003, it's for the Channel Tunnel trains which originally ran into Waterloo, but later a section was built to take the train into St Pancras instead, meaning that SouthEastern could also use the route to have very fast services between London and Kent.

  • alida flus
    alida flus 2 months ago +2

    Who likes javelins (train) 👇

  • Planet of the Deaf
    Planet of the Deaf 2 months ago

    Never knew there was an Oyster fare between STP and Stratford Int, it's cheaper than I was expecting actually! I doubt I'd go to Stratford that way, but use the Javelins all the time to go to Kent

    • alida flus
      alida flus 2 months ago

      sure now 7 Circle/District to Victoria, victoria to Green Park, jubilee to Baker Street, Bakerloo to Paddington

  • monika laosi
    monika laosi 2 months ago

    its only 6miles or so... Goeff sould have tried running LOL

  • Joseph Kraw
    Joseph Kraw 2 months ago +1

    You took the 12:12 train at platform 12 and the video is 12 minutes 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 woow spot on

    • Joseph Kraw
      Joseph Kraw 2 months ago

      monika laosi really woow I wish southern trains was like this

    • monika laosi
      monika laosi 2 months ago

      I live in Folkestone right by folkestone central. I can be in st Pancras in less than an hour. Virtually always on time. Brilliant train

  • Juncus Bufonius
    Juncus Bufonius 2 months ago

    Nice one. Of course I'm thinking why would I care about 10min difference when taking the easiest route is easiest. I always leave in good time to arrive in time. You city folk are just strange ;-)

    • aola wili
      aola wili 2 months ago

      Paddington 2. District to Earl's Court, district to Paddington 3. Circle/District to Victoria, victoria to Oxford Circus, Bakerloo to Paddington 4. Circle/District to Westminster, Jubil

  • dkb1234567890
    dkb1234567890 2 months ago

    it would have been 45 mins slower with a wheelchair so the High Speed is definitely the superstar

  • Creeping Jane
    Creeping Jane 2 months ago +1

    “The journey not the arrival matters.” T S Eliot ". I would have taken Vicky's route

  • bilishu aliss
    bilishu aliss 2 months ago

    It takes 7 minutes to Stratford International by javelin hs1 and tube takes 20 mins and u got to walk to station