TVs of CES 2019: 8K is still a fantasy

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  • Published on Jan 11, 2019
  • CES is about new TVs. The week we spend in Las Vegas every year is a showcase for the present and the far-off future of home entertainment. CES 2019 was no different, and we saw a lot on the show floor that’s got us excited. But 8K, the biggest TV trend at CES for yet another year, still feels like a fantasy that’s not making much progress towards becoming a living room reality.
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  • Banner Sphinx
    Banner Sphinx 4 months ago

    I can't even afford that TV in my sims 4

  • Xi Le
    Xi Le 4 months ago +1

    *We need smartphones that can record 8K videos so that we can watch our contents on huge 8 TVs 2019.* 😍

    • Gandalf the Wanderer
      Gandalf the Wanderer 2 months ago

      we won't see smartphones with 8k recording capabilities for years and years. the 8k professional cameras now are big bulky things. just wait like let's just say 10 years and maybe we will see a high-end expensive phone with 8k recording. sorry to ruin the hype.

  • Eddie Jack
    Eddie Jack 4 months ago

    Yes - ok we understand - there is no 8k content. This could have been a (better) 5 second video,

  • Robyn O'Donnell
    Robyn O'Donnell 5 months ago

    Most content is being shot, mastered and released in 1080p there's barely a reason to have a 4k tv, let alone 8k.

  • Isaac Alonzo
    Isaac Alonzo 5 months ago

    I'm a decade we're going to be able to watch a Google pixel 1 MKBHD review in 8k

  • Dom Jenkins
    Dom Jenkins 5 months ago

    Every time a new tv comes out they say you won't be to see the difference between resolutions without a giant tv but on my 40inch you cleary can. They said the same thing about 4k too. Are you all blind?

  • gast
    gast 5 months ago

    I remember the same skepticism about 4k and look where we are now.

  • Martin Pagh Ludvigsen
    Martin Pagh Ludvigsen 5 months ago +1

    To me, the most disturbing trend at CES 2019 was all the AI "enhancements" that TV manufacturers had on display; whether it was upscaling, HDR "enhancement", or audio "enhancement", they all had one thing in common: They're adding data to the film that the film-maker never intended to be there, so they're essentially changing the art without permission.
    I had a discussion with a brand representative at the TCL booth. He was showing some AI technique that added dynamic range (HDR) to a moving image, and he could switch it on and off to show the difference. I told him that I consistently preferred the OFF version at any given time, because that is the version the filmmaker intended for his audience, not this artificial, modified version that TCL is giving me.

  • Matteo Falduto
    Matteo Falduto 5 months ago

    The best thing about 8k tvs is that they will make 4ks more accessible

  • Jay Color
    Jay Color 5 months ago

    Eye contact

  • Zeus Starfall
    Zeus Starfall 5 months ago

    avatar 2 will be a fantastic sequel

  • c woolfork
    c woolfork 5 months ago

    "There's no fate but what we make for ourselves."

  • Yutae Gil
    Yutae Gil 5 months ago

    Look at the camera dude

  • James Gowan
    James Gowan 5 months ago

    This was exactly the same thing that was said about 4K when it was introduced.... no content.

  • Xi Le
    Xi Le 5 months ago +1

    Buy huge 8K TV & smartphone that can record 8K HDR videos to watch your own 8K contents. *8K is the highest video quality and prices are very high.*

  • The300ZXGuru
    The300ZXGuru 5 months ago

    there is a 146 inch wallpaper tv where you been?

  • ADreviews76
    ADreviews76 5 months ago

    if i was you guys i would not show my face anywhere near tech shows

  • Nathan Hamman
    Nathan Hamman 5 months ago

    Hate to break it to anyone that wants an 8k tv, but it simply wouldn't give much better quality than 4k unless you are either sitting way to close to the tv, or the tv is at an unreasonable size

  • Michael Fox
    Michael Fox 5 months ago

    You say you need at least 75 inch or bigger to be able to tell the difference, but personally I don't care, I want a 32in 8K TV. It's not about being able to tell the difference it's just the fact that it's an 8K TV and it can play native 8K or perfectly scaled 4K

  • avbarbertebeverballe
    avbarbertebeverballe 5 months ago

    fuckbags

  • Kelethuto Neikha
    Kelethuto Neikha 5 months ago

    MKBHD: Am I a joke to you?

  • Jeffry Abraham
    Jeffry Abraham 5 months ago

    There is no content for 8k except for MKBHD's videos

  • Roobar
    Roobar 5 months ago +1

    I don't trust The Verge, neither should you

  • Pedro Henrique
    Pedro Henrique 5 months ago

    8k today are like 1080i tube tvs in 2005... only gt4 could run it

  • Pedro Henrique
    Pedro Henrique 5 months ago +1

    i want a rollable transparent touch screen 10k tv

  • William Takor M-A.
    William Takor M-A. 5 months ago

    MBKHD with the 8K video content

  • Jeff Assassin
    Jeff Assassin 5 months ago

    I still want an 8k tv be ready for more of it in the coming years even though there is no content available right now thats in 8k.

  • selwyn gonzales
    selwyn gonzales 5 months ago

    Excellent video, insightful common sense

  • mahmaneiti
    mahmaneiti 5 months ago

    Well watching 4k in 8k TV is better than a 4k TV

  • John Reid
    John Reid 5 months ago

    No content lol It upscales to 8k.
    HDMI 2.1 is what you should buy 4K - 8k

  • Divas Rayamajhi
    Divas Rayamajhi 5 months ago

    Well MKBHD got mentioned 😂

  • 2012bigPerm
    2012bigPerm 5 months ago

    What's your opinion on 8k, though?

  • ggdfgg dfgdffgfddg
    ggdfgg dfgdffgfddg 5 months ago

    You tested a lot of laptops which one has the best sound?

  • black cat
    black cat 5 months ago

    and here I am struggling to watch at 1080p due to low internet connection

  • Joonsu Kwon
    Joonsu Kwon 5 months ago

    look at the camera plz

  • DJ Killer
    DJ Killer 5 months ago

    8k tv price $10k 😱😵😵😵

  • JS
    JS 5 months ago

    Even this video is broadcasting in 1080P... wake me up in the future!

  • Marsorry Ickua
    Marsorry Ickua 5 months ago

    Such a well made video, well done!

  • PSYCHO
    PSYCHO 5 months ago

    WHY THE HELL are plenty of movies shot in 4K or even 8K but mastered down to a 2K DI and then upscaled to 4K for release on 4K BD home media?
    Any professional out there to explain?

  • Dustin Townsend
    Dustin Townsend 5 months ago

    Watching video about 8k in 1080p lol

  • InstruMental
    InstruMental 5 months ago +9

    "There is no content in 8K" - MKBHD laughs...
    MKBHD fans hit like

    • InstruMental
      InstruMental 5 months ago

      @Keiji Johnson Rightly said though

    • Keiji Johnson
      Keiji Johnson 5 months ago +2

      InstruMental - Well that’s pretty much because he’s the one guy to have a whole lot of money to spend. Besides, pretty much every one of his viewers have either a 4K tv and monitor or something in between that and a 720p screen. NO ONE has the money to afford an 8K TV nor do they even want to when 4K is just as fine enough. And no, I’m not liking your comment just because I’m a fan.

  • Darren Woodard
    Darren Woodard 5 months ago

    This journalism is interested. It’s a rehash of a few years ago. I could go in and grab a video from 2013 about 4K, dub in 8k and we’d have the same interview...

  • Mohgan
    Mohgan 5 months ago

    One of the best review ever!...Simple and honest!

  • Chinmay Jade
    Chinmay Jade 5 months ago

    Waiting for 16K. I'm sure MKBHD will have something next year.

  • Neurotic Knight
    Neurotic Knight 5 months ago

    Where is my rollable transparent 16k TV

  • Anonymous Freak
    Anonymous Freak 5 months ago

    "New HDMI cables"?
    Why?
    I just got a new Dolby Vision/Dolby Atmos TV and Dolby Atmos sound bar, and connected them together with an ancient generic HDMI cable, then connected an Xbox One S to the sound bar with an equally old/generic HDMI cable, and it connects just fine at 4K 60 HDR, and Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos work just fine. (Note that I had to swap which cable was on which connection, with the TV-to-sound-bar cable going from sound bar to Xbox, Atmos didn't reliably work; but swapping the cables, everything works fine. I guess the TV-to-sound-bar connection is "more stable" than the sound bar to Xbox.)

  • David
    David 5 months ago

    so nhk dosent show 2001 in 8k with their decoder and sattelite

  • Movie matics
    Movie matics 5 months ago

    1080p is fine by me. Anything higher is unnecessary.

  • Shubham Gupta
    Shubham Gupta 5 months ago

    To the point perfect opinion!

  • BfoSHIZnats
    BfoSHIZnats 5 months ago

    I honestly don't want 8k to come to consumer televisions. It's unnecessary for the vast majority and just means you'll need higher data rates and faster hardware. I'd much rather manufacturers focus on display technology to make 4k the absolute best.

  • Shadman Shakib
    Shadman Shakib 5 months ago

    To be fair, the are the one who should start and the market will follow, not the other way. The streaming services won't consider making 8k content unless mass people has 8k devices. So the manufacturers are doing exactly what they should do.

  • Vandelay Industries
    Vandelay Industries 5 months ago

    So much repetition in this video. All you're saying is "8K TVs exist, but there is no content for them." You said that like 8K times in this video alone.

  • fr4s0r
    fr4s0r 5 months ago

    Why does every Verge video have a negative tone to it? It's as if everyone who works there are attempting to channel the attitude of Dieter Bohn.

  • Edriss Nasrat
    Edriss Nasrat 5 months ago

    Here I am struggling with playing 360p videos on TheXvid and these companies, come on have some mercy.

  • cyrus r
    cyrus r 5 months ago

    Is he blind???

  • Øystein
    Øystein 5 months ago

    You need a bigger than a 75" to see the difference... Atleast 100" and up and we can start to talk.
    I have a 65" 4K and I need to get 30-40cm from the screen to je able to see pixels. And I have perfect eyesight.

  • Michael P
    Michael P 5 months ago

    Why he’s watching alongside the camera. Looks weird.

  • Hiro Ueno
    Hiro Ueno 5 months ago

    Yo you really gotta look at the camera my man

  • Casual WEEB
    Casual WEEB 5 months ago

    Anything over 1080p is unnecessary.

  • Marco Gruebler
    Marco Gruebler 5 months ago

    what is he looking at??

  • Mauri QHD
    Mauri QHD 5 months ago +4

    nah i disagree with most of what you are saying

  • random viewer
    random viewer 5 months ago

    Weird flex but 8K

  • Jian Wu
    Jian Wu 5 months ago

    Thank you for speaking the truth. I would like to see more breakthroughs in color and brightness than more pixel.

  • Mikko Tikkanen
    Mikko Tikkanen 5 months ago +1

    Way too off-putting to watch as he's not looking at the camera but instead reading from the script way off the screen. Next.

  • Matthew Miller
    Matthew Miller 5 months ago

    There's barely any 4K TV content unless it's on streaming, so 8K is impressive, but still not needed. Especially since you can get a really good 4K TV from companies like TCL for under $500 these days.

  • James Leamas
    James Leamas 5 months ago

    You could make a video explainining why we did not yet really adopt 4k yet

  • Truthful For Eternity
    Truthful For Eternity 5 months ago

    Good high resolution!!!!! But if my phone screen can't download 8K quality, it makes me feel like so bad

  • Oren Eden
    Oren Eden 5 months ago

    And in my country I need to pay more to watch a sport channel in HD instead of SD

  • Darryl Giors
    Darryl Giors 5 months ago

    The argument that 8K isn't ready yet is sound. But there has to be hardware in the hands of consumers for content providers to be compelled to deliver 8K. It's like software. Platforms fail when there isn't an install base. Why develop for something when a slim portion of the market has compatible hardware?
    So bring on the 8K sets. We won't ever get there if nobody buys them.
    But yes, it's good for the consumer to know that there's little advantage to having 8K at the moment.

  • Matthew M
    Matthew M 5 months ago +24

    Love how Mkbhd is the yardstick for megapickle crispy content

  • Moshe Fasten
    Moshe Fasten 5 months ago

    THAT MKBHD PLUG THO! 💪

  • Darryl Giors
    Darryl Giors 5 months ago +4

    A message to the people who slam outlets for being "only" 1080P. I assume the majority of you have never produced professional video. There are deadlines. Equipment costs quite a lot of money to upgrade on the regular. Even if upgrading the entire chain were free there's the reality of moving more data around for 4K. Your editor will be less responsive in 4K than 1080P no matter how powerful it is. When you have just hours to shoot and edit 1080P is a more manageable format. In a number of years 4K will be easier to manage but by then there will be gripes that people aren't using 8K.

  • Bilal Sheikh
    Bilal Sheikh 5 months ago

    I wonder what will be the upper limit of screen resolution. Maybe 12-16K or so since that would be enough for VR headsets

  • jerryl davis
    jerryl davis 5 months ago

    U didn't talk much about the transparent display. U should have.

  • WhyThoVR
    WhyThoVR 5 months ago

    That’s why u buy an 8K tv just to flex

  • Karolis Paulikas
    Karolis Paulikas 5 months ago +34

    What are you looking at? A tech channel in 2019 and your videos are still in 1080p! lol of course 8K is still a fantasy!

    • flashandfoul
      flashandfoul 4 months ago

      @Max Francis watching on 5k screen right now, what do you mean not many people have over 1080p? And the difference is huge.

    • Naveen Santhosh
      Naveen Santhosh 5 months ago +2

      They answered it in some previous video. Verge makes a lot of videos with high production quality and a lot of graphics. It would require a lot of video editors to have the latest and greatest high-end tech, unlike MKBHD who makes around 7-8 videos per month. Also, it is incredibly painful to put out CES videos at this pace if they want to do 4k.

    • Ben Pyman
      Ben Pyman 5 months ago +2

      @Max Francis I'm watching this video on a 4K TV right now.

    • Max Francis
      Max Francis 5 months ago +4

      Not many people actually have displays that can output anything more that 1080p so it would be pointless to upload videos in 4k or even 1440p. Also the difference isn't that obvious especially for a video on TheXvid where it will be compressed

  • Mike G
    Mike G 5 months ago

    i hate all people that down technology like most people in the comments, its THE SAME ARGUMENT MADE WHEN 4K TVS WERE ON CES, and look at everyone now, everyone and their grandma has a 4k cause anyone can buy a 50" 4k for less than $500

  • Abhyudaya Bagaria
    Abhyudaya Bagaria 5 months ago +2

    watching this at my default 360p

  • Sache0190
    Sache0190 5 months ago

    What is this guys looking at?

  • francescop1
    francescop1 5 months ago

    This doesn't make sense for humans. You would need to be standing 3 feet away from a 75in screen for your eye to resolve the difference between 4k and 8k. It's ridiculous.

  • Pavan Lulla
    Pavan Lulla 5 months ago

    Upscaling.....? Not even a passing mention?

  • Nico1a5
    Nico1a5 5 months ago

    Even 4k is still a fantasy in consoles lol
    I guarantee you even the ~next gen wont even be fully 4k

  • John Malone
    John Malone 5 months ago

    You don’t have to worry about content yet the TV up skills to near 8K Resolution

  • Nico1a5
    Nico1a5 5 months ago

    Obviously 8k is a fantasy... Its 4x increase
    Most phones you pay for $900 a year barely are a 20% increase. At that rate it would take about 8 years. (Once 4k becames standart, at least in your first world countries)

  • Asdfghjkl I am wrong but
    Asdfghjkl I am wrong but 5 months ago +11

    Still not looking at the camera bro

  • Antony Melville
    Antony Melville 5 months ago

    Speakers CES 2019 !!!

  • seansurfn2
    seansurfn2 5 months ago

    5k was already overkill in 2012.. just one upping eachother in ces is a joke.. these companies should focus of true research and development like the flexible screens, holograms etc.. i have a 4k tv at home 60 inch.. id never need anything more.

  • Red Hat
    Red Hat 5 months ago +9

    Just as quick reminder: It was 7 years ago, at CES 2012, when 4k TVs became a real thing. Most of them also cost about 10k € or more. There was nearly no content available (Netflix began streaming UHD content 2 years later and there were no UHD Blu Rays).
    I hate when videos like this one just hate on a new innovation simply to gain views, it's really easy these days to say to your viewers something new like 8k is way too expensive, you shouldn't invest in it and that it's stupid.
    These TVs aren't meant for the average user, only rich, tech savvy individuals or content creators who really need them will buy these. But it's the future and I'm really glad some companies start the process to make it a reality.

    • DR128BIT
      DR128BIT 5 months ago

      I will say this, if Apple were to release a 65 inch OLED/MicroLED display this weekend for under five thousand dollars, then I would be among first in line to place an order. I have an LG OLED right now and nothing excites me, unless it is an Apple made product.

    • Red Hat
      Red Hat 5 months ago +1

      @OolongChai Sure, but look back at the videos covering CES back then (Adam Savage's Tested for example). They were way more excited and supportive of the technology. A tech channel should not only tell people what makes sense to buy, but also what we can expect in the future. Videos like this one are very counterproductive and shouldn't have any place in a 'tech' channel.

    • OolongChai
      OolongChai 5 months ago

      Maybe this video target audience is average user? Not rich, tech savvy individuals?

  • Sergio Herrero
    Sergio Herrero 5 months ago

    0:43 I thought I was the camera, but apparently the guy next to me is more interesting.

  • CEKROM
    CEKROM 5 months ago +1

    Today 4K is for me enogh =D

  • Adventures of New Yokio

    I didn’t mind him not looking at the camera lol

  • Jonathan Lin
    Jonathan Lin 5 months ago

    Chris is pretty good. Better than a lot of the new hosts! Who's he talking at tho hehe

  • Jyoti Prakash
    Jyoti Prakash 5 months ago +19

    You might be looking at the wrong camera

    • Kyle Li
      Kyle Li 5 months ago +1

      Hes reading off a teleprompter or laptop for his notes and script

  • Omar Mohamed
    Omar Mohamed 5 months ago +1

    There right man for the right video, superb.

  • siegfried greding
    siegfried greding 5 months ago

    a hd projector does just as well .and its easier to move

  • Jhe Wattimury
    Jhe Wattimury 5 months ago +5

    how could people produce 8k media if there was no one to utilize it in the first place, now when this technology available, there are no excuses from not to produce 8k contents. if you use your crazy mindset there will be no Android phones, Powerfull graphics cards and many other technologies you are using now.
    I'm disappointed with "The Verge" instead of delivering exciting News about newest Techs, they infused some of their videos with a grain of negativity, complaining about things not really relevant, yes, you can not utilize this type of techs fully as intended, but give it times so people can process and understand it.

  • Anthony Roux
    Anthony Roux 5 months ago

    Is he blind?

  • Liery
    Liery 5 months ago

    Manufacturers know there's no 8K content so they offer their own upscaling tech. Isn't true 8K but still better than 4K.

    • Billy Kringel
      Billy Kringel 5 months ago

      Also there is 8k content. He glossed of it. There's just no way for people to watch it yet. So it gets down scaled. It's a chicken and egg question.

  • Carlos Macías Jiménez
    Carlos Macías Jiménez 5 months ago +5

    OLEd is starting to be available at mainstream prices but you "have been waiting for an OLED killer for years". Sure...

    • DR128BIT
      DR128BIT 5 months ago

      I have a 65 inch LG OLED and I am very fearful of screen burn in. My set is now 2 years old, I want Apple to hurry up and launch an Apple OLED/MicroLED display for the living room. The Apple TV 4K box is nice, but I hate having to rely on a third party display.

    • Billy Kringel
      Billy Kringel 5 months ago

      People underestimate the consumers hunger for better quality. Richer blacks have been a coveted goal for years.

  • Faisal Fahad
    Faisal Fahad 5 months ago

    MKBHD is living in 2030