Chernobyl Anatoly Dyatlov’s real interview (English)

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  • Published on Jun 5, 2019
  • Here is the real Anatoly Dyatlov’s story about the Chernobyl explosion was told by himself (he was deputy chief-engineer of the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant). The interview was taken in 1994, a year before his death. English subtitles are provided.
    ATTENTION! The translation is amateur, it's dangerous for real nuclear physicists, but clear to the rest, we hope.
    Thanks @KruchinaFILM for video, thanks @Alexey for translation.
    Source: www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVthW...

Comments • 7 452

  • Figureight
    Figureight 2 years ago +5940

    I feel like I've got radiation poisoning just trying to follow the damn subtitles that keep fading in and out.

    • Niko Christian Wallenberg
      Niko Christian Wallenberg Month ago +1

      I can't believe how some people have such bad focus ability that they can't read these: I can follow them just fine.

    • Brandon Pausta
      Brandon Pausta 7 months ago

      Watch it at a slower speed on mute?

    • Manjunath Ballur
      Manjunath Ballur 11 months ago

      Hilarious comment :)

    • Greg Brown
      Greg Brown 11 months ago

      @Mac Miller That, or click away which I'm going to do, this is taking longer than Xmas...

  • K. Arkadius Wowczuk
    K. Arkadius Wowczuk 2 years ago +3198

    He must have lived a difficult life. He comes from a poor fishing family and ran away from an abusive home at an early age. He is only 63 in this video, looks 87.

    • Furan Duron
      Furan Duron Month ago

      Lived longer than the actor who played him

    • Vizprave
      Vizprave 2 months ago

      @P77777777 he also was forced to 5 years of hard labour after the trial

    • Vizprave
      Vizprave 2 months ago

      Radiation but also the fact that after the trial he was subject to five years doing hard labour in a hard labour camp

    • sciscitatio
      sciscitatio 4 months ago

      @Rodion Gubarev No. He was released after 3 years due to health reasons. This is filmed in 1994, 8 years after the accident. He was to die a year later in 1995, 9 years after the accident

    • Norm Appleton
      Norm Appleton 6 months ago

      Aint that special. K Arkadius.
      All the Whos down in Whoville went boo hoo hoo.

  • SuperPsychoterror
    SuperPsychoterror Year ago +475

    This guy lived for 9 years following the accident. That is amazing considering how many others died who were there that night.

    • Burt Reynolds
      Burt Reynolds 2 months ago +1

      Because he did not stay to try and mitigate what he had been partially responsible for, like he ordered others to do.

    • Uzi Patrol
      Uzi Patrol 3 months ago +1

      You can't kill bad grass.

    • Khan Speaks
      Khan Speaks 4 months ago

      Cause the nuclear was his baby

    • Anthony Kernich
      Anthony Kernich 4 months ago

      he got 290 rem of radiation and it didn't kill him

  • coolsport1122
    coolsport1122 Year ago +479

    "In Soviet Union, there were no accidents due to faulty equipment. In Soviet Union, accidents could only occur because of working personnel." - Anatoly Dyatlov. 55:16

    • Chithi samayal
      Chithi samayal Month ago

      @Greg Brown and it cuts it into 3 pieces

    • byte2702
      byte2702 3 months ago

      @Manti Core I just ask myself if you are a bot. Everything would make sense to me then.

    • byte2702
      byte2702 3 months ago +1

      ​@Manti Core "The US for example is technically not a Capitalist state. The called themselves Socialists, they followed Socialist ideology and were recognised as a Socialist state by the International Community." - I didn't know the US(A) are or wanted to be a Socialist state. I have the Cold War (where my country Germany was exactly in the middle of the Cold War) slightly different in my memories. But maybe you know more than most of the US Americans. ;-)

    • Manti Core
      Manti Core 3 months ago

      @byte2702 If your ideology is Socialist, you are a Socialist. It doesn't need to be a pure implementation. The US for example is technically not a Capitalist state. The called themselves Socialists, they followed Socialist ideology and were recognised as a Socialist state by the International Community.

    • Ed Gepixel
      Ed Gepixel 3 months ago

      @Greg Brown
      Even in countries where other brands were available, Trabant owners were known to be pretty happy customers.

  • DuneDemon8
    DuneDemon8 2 years ago +288

    The whole event is so tragic, from so many aspects, that it is hard to comprehend. I understand people love to joke in the comment section, but for me personally, I could not either talk or joke during listening to this. My heart was so heavy, almost numb with pain. Dyatlov is not attacking any of his colleagues, not saying any of them did anything wrong. It might be a trick but he seems far from the arrogant monster he was portrayed as. Also, I could believe that those people, including Dyatlov, were all predestined to be guilty the moment the equipment failed. I know how those regimes work. I was a child during this disaster. We were also in the communist regime. The official stance was mild, there were warnings but people still walked outside, ate the food just after some washing... Well, 20 years later they cut out a 19cm tumor out of me. And the area is still not 100% stable, and there are so many of these reactors still working there, unchanged. Only protocol changed. If it happened again, I am not so sure we would have same brave people to give their lives right away, to prevent much greater disaster. And no, it would not be just Europe. We all live on the same planet, it would effect the whole world in time.

    • SkS
      SkS 9 months ago +1

      Yes... ppl always wants one scapegoat...

    • Gabrocol
      Gabrocol Year ago +6

      @BIG TIME you got it wrong, power did not exceede 200 megawatts until after AZ-5 was pressed to end the experiment. The power rising before AZ-5 was pressed (then in the show, Akimov quickly pressed AZ-5 shut it down) was something HBO dramatized.
      Yes Dyatlov made a somewhat risky decision to pull all the rods, but he was going under the belief that the reactor could be safely shut down once the experiment was done. From what he knew at the time (information about AZ-5 potentially blowing up reactors was kept from), he broke no safely violations. While decisions were risky, AZ-5 was supposed to stop everytging.
      With the experiment ended, everything was calm. The AZ-5 was simply pressed to shut down the reactor, then catastrophe struck.

    • Blackeyes
      Blackeyes Year ago +8

      @DuneDemon8 Yeah the guy was a head nuclear technician with almost 30 years experience he wasn't stupid even if he was a brute.

    • DuneDemon8
      DuneDemon8 Year ago +11

      @BIG TIME But again he, during the whole time, was thinking that if something goes wrong, he can abort. He didn't know that the AZ-5 button that is supposed to abort everything, will in fact cause an explosion. If he knew that AZ-5 will blow up the reactor, he would never put the reactor in that state.

    • DuneDemon8
      DuneDemon8 Year ago +24

      @BIG TIME The thing is, he didn't know the reactors were flawed as this knowledge was kept a secret from everybody. He didn't know that what he did will cause an explosion. They were given information or better say propaganda, that RBMK reactors are virtually safest thing in the world and indestructible. He did things wrong, but because he taught that he can't do damage to the reractor.

  • Yorick
    Yorick 2 years ago +4353

    Please never EVER use a fade in of any effect on subtitles again. For the rest, thank you much for this video!

    • Tizzalicious
      Tizzalicious 15 days ago

      ​@Lady Godiva Constructive criticism not allowed?

    • Niko Christian Wallenberg
      Niko Christian Wallenberg Month ago +1

      I can't believe how some people have such bad focus ability that they can't read these: I can follow them just fine.

    • Jatari
      Jatari Year ago

      @Chris Perrien @Chris Perrien then the same issue would still occur. Fading in from the centre still requires people who read from right to left to switch to the right after first looking in the centre.

    • Chris Perrien
      Chris Perrien Year ago

      @Jatari Please realize, many people read from , right to left in their language.
      I don't know Yiddish, but that is an example.

    • Chris Perrien
      Chris Perrien Year ago

      I am sorry, but you people objecting to the "style" , can just walk off and ignore this 1st person POV of history since the presentation does not fit your bill. You'll have a hard time learning real history or knowing anything about it , with such a stilted POV. Go watch "the adolf channel*". - the history channel - and be happy (ignorance is bliss, after all)
      *- I don't mention the "H" word. to avoid Godwin's law and YT moderation , LOL

  • temmychan
    temmychan Year ago +248

    Dyatlov was not even the one who infamously insisted that the reactor was still there when it had exploded; that was Akimov. Dyatlov risked his life searching for the pump operator that was killed and did several things which prevented the accident becoming worse. He was incompetent, but he was not the villain and he wasn't just sat in the control room ordering people to die

    • Lorenzo Rubino
      Lorenzo Rubino 2 months ago +1

      @Klin-Klin It's well documented that the decision of bringing the power back up from 30 MW was a fatal mistake made by Dyatlov. It was known that forcing the power back was a risk since the RBMK-1000 was unstable at low power, that's why they had a power surge in the first place and had to use the escape button. The RBMK-1000 documentation clearly stated the procedure to follow if the power went to low, Dyatlov simply didn't care. From that point onwards there was nothing he could have done to avoid the explosion, but still he led the RBMK-1000 to work well outside the design specification.
      To be clear, the RBMK-1000 was a time bomb, but only that one exploded, maybe because it was the only one pushed that hard.

    • Klin-Klin
      Klin-Klin 3 months ago

      ​@temmychan Power readings never exceeded critical levels until reaction was already a runaway. No one in a control room could have known what's really going on in the reactor.

    • temmychan
      temmychan 3 months ago

      @Klin-Klin because of a design defect no one was aware of which nevertheless would not have been an issue if the reactor was not pushed far far far beyond its tolerances by the operating staff*

    • Klin-Klin
      Klin-Klin 3 months ago

      @temmychan That's just stupid. Reactor blew up because of a design defect no one at the station was aware of. There was nothing they could do to prevent what happened.

  • Nando Passante
    Nando Passante Year ago +3661

    The series was good under many aspects, but really exaggerated in their villanization of Dyatlov. He wasn’t entirely blameless, and perhaps was not the best boss to work with, but he wasn’t the arrogant asshole he’s been depicted as, either.
    The real Dyatlov tried to help others in the aftermath of the explosion. He personally went looking for Khodemchuk (quite the contrary of “fuck Khodemchuk”), and he twice ordered Toptunov to go home and later tried to send away Akimov as well, at a time when they both could have still saved themselves - they had spent most time in the control room and had not yet absorbed a fatal dose of radiation, in fact Dyatlov had received more radiation than them at that point. Which is why he became sick sooner and was carried away, while Akimov and Toptunov, still feeling well, decided that they should stay and help and went to the coolant valves, where they received their fatal dose. And the real Dyatlov never, ever tried to blame Akimov and Toptunov for what had happened. On the contrary, he even wrote Toptunov’s parents telling them that their son had fully done his duty and that the accusations that had been laid against him (Toptunov) were injust.

    • TheCliffrey
      TheCliffrey Month ago

      Does not change the fact that the crew nor time chosen to make the test was correct. He may not been the Villain, but he definetly had the chance to say his word over the timing of the test run. I agree, the show makes more "evil" than he was. But the fact remain, that Soviet Doctrins and general mind set was just to rise through ranks and cornners were cut. Don't try to make him blesse, he wasn't evil, but he wasn't an angel too.

    • NorfAngl
      NorfAngl Month ago

      They also made a villain out of the Minister of Coal and ruined the miners too
      On the show he is some suit wearing snob who seems unfamiliar with how the miners behave, and needs armed soldiers to force them to help. Miners on the other hand are shown as being reluctant to work, and have hatred for their country.
      In reality the Minister of Coal had worked in the mines since he was child, and slowly worked his way to the job as the Minister, the miners heavily respected him. And when the Chernobyl incident happened, he asked the miners if they could help. They all agreed to help without question. Most miners were previously soldiers of the Soviet Union, and now they worked in the coal industry, which the Soviets heavily relied up. They knew just how important they were to be needed at Chernobyl.

    • malkavian str
      malkavian str Month ago +1

      So he was no Schettino, but he still put the ship on a rock.

    • Mike Schlosser
      Mike Schlosser 2 months ago +1

      I was about to write a similar comment when I read yours and that already sums it up quite decently.
      I've been to Russia many times and make no mistake, Russia hasn't changed much after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
      No "Winds of Change" over there as far as I can see. It's a top down organized society for many decades and it's quite too convenient to paint Dyatlov as the bad guy only.
      This goes way much deeper. I don't blame the HBO mini series for painting things black and white there for dramatic purposes but the reality is as in most cases more in between.

  • Juan Davel
    Juan Davel Year ago +24

    I feel so good that he came out and told his side of the story. A lot of people are so influenced in what is portrayed in the media surrounding the accident and his actions involved in it. But he failed to answer one crucial question - why would you allow them to power up the reactor? Was he really not aware that the reactor, running at half power for 10 hours non-stop, could quite possibly be poisoned?

    • Doctor_9
      Doctor_9 Month ago +1

      He had insufficient guidelines to follow which may have indicated running the reactor like this could be dangerous. Also i'm sure all the engineers and operators thought the SCRAM button would drop solid boron control rods into the core and instantly kill the reaction in the case of an emergency. They just didn't know the control rods were tipped with graphite, and that the condition the reactor was in was like a cocked gun.
      Imagine trying to put a rapidly spreading fire out with a high pressure fire hose reel, but for the first 10 seconds it sprays out gasoline. That's what was happening inside the reactor. The rods came down, reactivity increased, and the high pressure ruptured the control rod channels in place leaving the graphite part of the control rods within graphite blocks. Now it's like a runaway diesel endlessly throttling itself to catastrophe.

    • Krzysztof D
      Krzysztof D 9 months ago +3

      But poisoned reactor was not reason of catastrophe.
      It was reactor design. After at-5 button was clicked, rods was go down and powered reaction on the bottom of reactor.
      No one was aware of this reactor design and reaction after at-5.

    • Gefriernudel
      Gefriernudel Year ago +3

      I believe he was forced by the higher ups to complete the test no matter how (or as fast as possible). At least in the HBO portrayal he met with them and said so. Dunno if that really happened but it makes sense. I heared cimunist countries are rathe harsh...
      Im not an expert in this topic, so i dont know if a completed test would have been convincing under these circumstances but it is fact that this test was not passed yet and still had to be done.

  • ThatOneDude
    ThatOneDude 2 years ago +5214

    "Comrade Dyatlov, i've seen the video of your real interview"
    "No you didn't."
    "I did."
    "No you didn't. ... YOU DIDN'T SEE IT BECAUSE *ITS NOT THERE* !!!"

    • Surviving Chicago
      Surviving Chicago 6 months ago

      Wow you have cable, with that power and knowledge you will take over this world!

    • robmbaboy1
      robmbaboy1 9 months ago

      There - review it

    • Ale Ale Handro
      Ale Ale Handro 9 months ago

      💀💀💀💀💀💀😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭

  • ComradeDyatlov
    ComradeDyatlov 3 years ago +32207

    The quality of this video is not great but it’s not terrible....I rate it 3.6 out of 15,000

  • katelikesrectangles
    katelikesrectangles 2 years ago +451

    This man looks absolutely crushed. He's been through more than any of us ever will.

    • byte2702
      byte2702 8 months ago

      @SID Sentences start with a capital letter. Commas matter. Punctuation matters, too. And it is “you” instead of “u”. If you don’t allow others to make mistakes in their life, then I do await the same from you. :-)
      P.S. It is “doesn’t” instead of “dosent”, too. And it is “don’t” instead of “dont”. Remember, mistakes can kill others, no matter how small they are.

    • SID
      SID 8 months ago

      he caused the accident , he is the reason thousands of people and animals suffered and died , u dont have to be sympathetic for a person like this.. he dosent deserve anyones sympathy

    • byte2702
      byte2702 10 months ago

      @David Did he really cause it? It was the first nuclear power plant disaster. It was told that nothing had happened during all the previous test, that’s why they had continued with those tests at that night. Most of workers didn’t know much about nuclear power back then and were not aware how dangerous it can be. The safety precautions were not the same as after that disaster. And I’m sure that he had some supervisors who told him to do the tests. I can not imagine that he woke up one morning with the idea „let’s do some tests and see if something goes wrong and who cares about all the people who live in that area?“. I mean he was there when the disaster had happened, he and his family (which lived in Pripyat at that time) were exposed to the radiation by themselves. They believed at that day that the tests are safe, that absolutely nothing can happen. I’m sure he had some better idea at that day than to be there when the disaster happened. I don’t think that he had caused it. There were many things wrong: The nuclear power plant had some design flaws, the safety precautions were inappropriate at that time, there was much pressure from „above“, the people who had worked there were not trained for such a disaster. It‘s always very easy to blame a person for everything until you are in such a situation by yourself. If the disaster had not happened there, it would have happened elsewhere. And as we know meanwhile, such disasters can repeat: see Fukushima. It was meanwhile the 4th disaster with nuclear power.

    • Steevee Keys
      Steevee Keys 11 months ago

      @F. Friedrich Kling Hauss The Soviet Union started with the violent carnage of the murder of the Czar's children and ended with the violent catastrophic carnage at Chernobyl. Just like the laws of physics, every action has a reaction. Many countries, not just the United States, have been responsible for the genocide of the Indians. The conquistadors, for example, were brutal. What has and what will be the consequences of this immense catastrophe?

  • natty0000ify
    natty0000ify Year ago +206

    I can see an older broken man, that lived with the consequences of his decisions all his life. There is a pain on his face, his eyes are just dead he just looks drained.Those memories were haunting him till the end of his life. I don't say that he is innocent. He did make wrong decisions and he had to live with the consequences of it. Its still extremely sad.

    • Aluminium
      Aluminium 7 days ago

      @Lee Hunter No? The Control Shift didn't know that what they were doing wasn't safe, the didn't know that the reactor was unstable and had massive design flaws.

    • Aluminium
      Aluminium 7 days ago

      @SkS The test was made for second generation RBMK reactors, so you are wrong when you say that the test was conducted on Unit 2. Also, why are you typing like that?

    • Lee Hunter
      Lee Hunter 9 months ago

      Everyone in that control room was to blame they put their jobs before safety first

  • Valerij A. Legasov
    Valerij A. Legasov Year ago +55

    Thank you for this video, I learn Russian language, so subtitles are great help for my study. I would like to state, that I am so sorry, Anatolij Stepanovic had to alive these horrible events. His loved ones helped him so much. Anatolij Stepanovic was slightly explosive person, but was not evil, crazzy, brutal Soviet nuclear engineer, as you can see in the Chernobyl by HBO. It is clear, He was really seriously ill. Please note, He absorbed 390 REM during his rescue actions at 4th Energounit. It was not only this deadly doze, he has ever absorbed. In 60ths, during the nuclear accident in the atomic submarine (in the port), He absorbed 200 REM and afther that, his loved younger son passed away (Leukemia(! His relatives and friends stated, this personal tragedy changed him forever, but Hedid not became crazzy! I think, He felt in his soul, that He may passe away sonn and decided to record his statement about the Chernobyl NPP disaster. Honestly, I can not agree with him about causes of event. The truth is - IMHO - more complicated and there are still some "white spots" I wish you health, be safe during this horrible pandemy. All the best from the lockdowned Czech republic...

    • Vasilisa Lukashevich
      Vasilisa Lukashevich  Year ago +9

      Thank you for the comment! many people here would like to listen Legasov recordings in English ;)

  • VinsUplifting
    VinsUplifting Year ago +52

    Watching the show, i always knew Dyatlov was somewhat innocent. This simply couldn't have been how it was portrayed. This is an amazing piece of history, thank you.

  • robbie 4177
    robbie 4177 11 months ago +83

    A lot of people surprised at how old “Dyatolov” looks, this guy had an accident with a Nuclear reactor on a submarine years before Chernobyl. Then his Son died of liechemia, not sure if it was related. Fair to say the guy took a fair amount of radiation hence why he looks so old and frail.

    • no pops
      no pops 3 months ago

      @J P it's very possible, see the chernobyl firefighters' clothing in the hospital basement - they're still so contaminated even today

    • J P
      J P 9 months ago +2

      I read somewhere a while ago his son died because of wearing his dad's coat

  • H Garcia
    H Garcia Year ago +84

    I have seen some clips of the HBO miniseries and was quite surprised at the caricature of Anatoly Dyatlov. Yes, everyone agrees that Dyatlov was tough. A hard man that had scaled up the Soviet hierarchy from almost abject poverty to higher status positions through hard work, a harsh no-nonsense approach to personal relationships and a willingness to take risks but he was no psychopath, unlike the character in the TV mini-series. In this interview I think he is largely telling the truth as he had nothing to hide by then (he died soon after). Chernobyl was the consequence of a criminal system that promised Heaven on Earth and brought Hell instead. In an infantilised, corrupt system like the former USSR, there is no need for singular 'baddies'; its tragedy was that everyone became eventually simultaneously victim and perpetrator.

    • Ed Gepixel
      Ed Gepixel 3 months ago

      @Christopher De Freitas
      Link?

    • Christopher De Freitas
      Christopher De Freitas 4 months ago +1

      If only the court documents and sworn testimonies about what Dyatlov did that night didn’t say otherwise…bummer.

    • Sulphurous
      Sulphurous Year ago +1

      @Johnathan Hughes I watched this interview and Zero Hour's docudrama before checking out the miniseries and the hyperbolic portrayal of Dyatlov became immediately apparent to me for this reason.

    • swordfish2997
      swordfish2997 Year ago

      @Bill Laswell fairness is what HBO lacks, grant fairness to the fair

  • Lavinia Jane Hollis
    Lavinia Jane Hollis 2 years ago +93

    I think even Dyatlov was also a victim of the apparatchik. It's heartbreaking to watch this man imagining what he went through. I guess sometimes circumstances let us do things which is questionable but also beyond our control.

  • Kaya Kappaccino
    Kaya Kappaccino 2 months ago +5

    the radiation poisoning has aged him in such a harsh way, you can see he's dying and i can't help but feel sorry for him. he's paying a huge price for his mistakes.

  • Forest Denizen
    Forest Denizen 2 years ago +693

    This deserves to be uploaded with audio English translation by someone fluent in both Russian and English, with sufficient proficiency to correctly translate idioms and technical terms.
    It is a very important historical document and Dyatlov deserves his side to be available to be heard in the same language as the HBO series that portrayed him as an ignorant and incompetent, egomaniacal monster.
    _"My only task is to achieve the publication of the truth about the causes of the disaster, to save from shame at least the memory of my fallen comrades. I have no other personal plans and cannot be. I received 550 rem during the accident, and about 100 rem - during the previous work. The skin is burned by radiation. Now I am a disabled person of the second group. Life is running out. Therefore, day and night I think only about one thing, I want only one thing - the truth, and nothing but the truth."_ *Anatoly Stepanovich Dyatlov*

    • Aleksandar
      Aleksandar 9 months ago +1

      @MindMachine- Exactly. Im reading his comment in which he states he didn't watch the show and in the end says it's a great show ??? Some guy above gives him information from book that he read with footnotes with explanations and he shares link from wikipedia ? xD
      As someone stated in comment above, everyone watch HBO series and immediately they become nuclear scientists..
      I was born in '98 and I was always interested in Chernobyl. It was catastrophie that devastated so many lives. I've been reasearching myself and I also watched HBO series. But I feel it's dramatic in a way to portray how whole world felt in that period of time of catastrophie and also to get people interested to watch because its same principle like going to rollercoaster rides because you feel that fear and get adrenaline rush. But I don't think its okay to crucify anyone because we cannot know for shure if thats what really happened. Personally after watching this whole interview I don't see this man as a villain. He could of have ran away but he stayed and did whatever he could do sanitize the "ireversible" damage as he pointed out. And also HBO only called Lyudmila Ignatenko for an interview and never got back at her while portraying her in show and that led to another crucifixion of someone who already suffered enough.
      Chernobyl is a disaster that should never be forgotten, but let the sleeping dogs lie and don't try to act smart if your only source for ANY topic is commercial show and wikipedia.

    • Bulletz4life
      Bulletz4life Year ago

      I speak English and Russian rather fluently and to be honest, the subtitles are pretty much accurate. Doing an entire voice over would just be reading the subtitles all over again

    • Gregory Timmons
      Gregory Timmons Year ago

      @nodlimax The truth is that largely as a result of one catastrophe the culture in the airline industry has changed. The KAL pilot who lost his patience and his co pilot who feared speaking up have effected change in the culture where decisions are more collaborative now. Without as much fear of voicing an opinion opposing the pilot. They died but their words lived on in the black box recording and that along with testimony from others exposed the culture of fear of the top rank onboard and realisation that fear of someone irrational simply due to their rank is not the wisest way. This change also helps deal with alcoholic or drug dependant pilots or those suicidal or of revolutionary or terrorist mindset.

    • Matthijs van Duin
      Matthijs van Duin Year ago +3

      @American Light While they ended up removing the manual control rods more than allowed, this violation was determined by computing the parameter that measures this ("ORM") after the accident based on recorded data, it wasn't actually known to the operators at that time.[1] It was periodically computed by a low-priority process on a computer system (SKALA), and this computation was also known to be inaccurate under certain circumstances, resulting in an ORM violation being explicitly ignored on the previous day because the computation was deemed unreliable (this had no role in this accident, it just shows the day-shift operators also didn't mind removing that many rods).
      ORM was clearly not treated as a safety critical parameter, neither by the system design (no alarm, no real-time monitoring capability) nor the documentation, and therefore obviously also not by the operators. In a sane reactor design it _wouldn't_ be safety-critical: the main problem with operating at a stable power level with all rods removed is that you have no room left to increase reactivity when needed.
      [1] "According to the record, the computer SKALA, which was used to calculate the ORM, became unreliable in the period in which the test took place. In the view of INSAG, it is likely that the operator did not know the value of the ORM during the critical part of the test. " - INSAG-7, page 11.

  • Brandon Cepeda
    Brandon Cepeda Year ago +7

    It's been mentioned before in the comments, but the thing that bothers me the most about the HBO series is their portrayal of Dyatlov as being the sole villain and the cause of the disaster. Of course, I wasn't there to see the events unfold in the control room, but from the interview, Dyatlov seems to be a man who was merely doing his job and was trying to understand what just happened when the reactor exploded the same as everyone else there was doing. I'm not saying he is not to blame at all for the incident, but he surely was not the sole cause or should bear all the blame for what happened.

  • TheHappyAtheist
    TheHappyAtheist 2 years ago +39

    Thank you for posting this interview. The subtitles are just fine and that's coming from a slow reader. I feel sorry for his family. I loved the mini series but I can help but feel like they vilified this person. Everyone has flaws and makes mistakes.

    • Ski J
      Ski J 10 months ago

      I'm afraid that they might have portrayed him just about right. This type of characters are very common in USSR in higher technical positions. I wouldn't expect him to be the nice guy on the job. Now I don't think he would be incompetent. While in politics you didn't need competence in operational positions you would not rise ranks even in USSR if you couldn't get stuff done - especially considering commonly poorly trained staff and poor technology that you get to work with. He must have been extremely competent and clever guy. However environment that one gets to work with - completely incompetent bosses, top down orders, operating shit poor technology using instruction manuals that don't work in many cases - this will turn even best people into jerks.
      That said just because he appeared rather unpleasant character it doesn't mean that he did any wrong decisions during the event or prior to it nor that he was incompetent for the job. And I think this is what series tried to show.
      At given circumstances there really was nothing he could do and just about anyone would make bad decisions when there is no good choices left. And I think series did try to show that he became the escape goat for apparatchik. The problem was the design of reactor coupled with potential defects when construing one and it was very well explained. The very same problem about stop button exploding reactor was already been observed before by scientists developing this reactor but was brushed under a carpet likely by someone believing it was a freak situation that is unlikely to happen and so they didn't tell anyone that stop button in certain circumstances can trigger nuclear bomb reaction.

    • InitialPC
      InitialPC Year ago +1

      "everyone has flaws and makes mistakes"
      i dont clean my place as much as i should, thats a flaw
      the other day i forgot to bring my mask to the store, thats a mistake
      blowing up a nuclear reactor, killing tens of thousands of people and irradiating an entire area for thousands of years to come, is not a mistake

  • chiroptera626
    chiroptera626 2 years ago +2232

    Hard to believe this guy is the same Dyatlov that was portrayed by HBO.

    • ______________________Mr. X______________________
      ______________________Mr. X______________________ Month ago

      they portrayed the soviet propaganda dyatlov

    • Dawson Reum
      Dawson Reum 4 months ago

      @text97 Well, before the disaster the people around reported he actually wasn't that unpleasant to work around, though at times he have a bit of a temper, he wasn't that much of a jerk (or they reported something close to that, I don't fully remember). Maybe they weren't telling the full truth, but what is certain is he wasn't as much as a jerk as in the series.

    • Surviving Chicago
      Surviving Chicago 6 months ago

      Rule number one….. never believe anything that comes out of Hollywood

    • Reza 20011380
      Reza 20011380 7 months ago

      @daniel johnston I don't know what was going through this man's mind, even how he was trusting az5? I mean u can't say I pushed the button and got away with it, you are shutting down a damn reactor, you will for sure be asked questions about the things happened, and it will take quite a long time to get the reactor up and running again, who was gonna answer about the reactor being off for that much time? I assume he was mentally unstable caused by the other nuclear accident he had and the effects of it on his son

  • Miki Cerise
    Miki Cerise 2 years ago +703

    Thank you for bringing us this interview. This is an invaluable piece of history.

    • Mr. Poop
      Mr. Poop 5 months ago +1

      @Kashallday do you know what happened in the control room mister

    • Chris Perrien
      Chris Perrien Year ago

      Definitely.

    • Kashallday
      Kashallday Year ago +7

      @The Metal Jedi did hbo teach you that or do you know what really happened in the control room

    • Sam M
      Sam M Year ago

      He said that the house would have been a good idea for the man to be able to make a decision to help with his own plans

  • Manuel Barkhau
    Manuel Barkhau 2 years ago +25

    The series portraits him in a bad light but I'm inclined to agree with Anatoly Dyatlov and also the larger message of the series: The root cause was that the Soviet leadership made decisions to use an inherently unsafe design and compounded this mistake by keeping information secret that was essential for the safe operation of the block.

  • Charlotte Kelly
    Charlotte Kelly 2 years ago +2

    Thank you very much for posting this important piece of history. I’ve read a little bit about his life, and that he experienced several incidents of radiation poisoning. I believe the HBO series states that he was exposed to such a high amount of radiation during the explosion that 50% die within 30 days. He appears to have rapidly aged, and I read he died of radiation induced heart disease BUT it still seems that he was relatively and remarkably physically resilient.
    Has anyone read any credible information as to why he survived beyond the odds? Thank you.

    • Sergey B
      Sergey B 2 years ago

      He got like 500-600 roentgen. It is considered as lethal dose and it could have been lethal for him. But this value is very rough estimate and doesn't necessarily lead to death. He had been suffering terrible headaches untill the end anyway , that's certain.
      You see, it all depended very much on where certain people had been during that night. For example one of operators (Boris Stolyarchuk) spent several hours in main control room and got 100 roentgen (which is a lot of course but not lethal). He was more or less protected from rays by the walls of the control room.

    • ionobi
      ionobi 2 years ago

      I personally think one of the inaccurate things hbo made was that they made the dyatlov character seem very aggressive and a talking idiot, I really believe he had the same shock as everybody.

  • 6 соток
    6 соток Year ago +5

    Низкий поклон и память героям-ликвидаторам 🙏🙏🙏

  • me
    me Year ago +49

    Dyatlov had basically died a broken man. From his son dying of leukaemia and then the Chernobyl Incident he had experienced so much. He was also a victim of the incident. Lest We Forget

  • TheBloke
    TheBloke 2 years ago +108

    Thank you so much for uploading this English translation. I recently watched the HBO series where Dyatlov was shown as a monster. Then I read "Chernobyl" by Serhii Plokhy and "Midnight in Chernobyl" by Adam Higginbotham and they told a very different story: a 'hard' man, but not evil, not incompetent. I am glad I can now hear his story directly. I was particularly impressed when I heard that, at the trial, Dyaltlov refused to pass blame to his subordinates (eg Akimov, Toptunov) even though it would have been easy to do so as they were dead. From what I read, he sounds a very different man to the one told in the HBO series.
    I think it is disgraceful that HBO were so willing to paint Dyatlov and Briukhanov has incompetent, uncaring, ignorant and selfish. They made mistakes but it seems both were competent, intelligent, diligent men who were caught in the wrong place at the wrong time, and were burned by the Soviet system that created them. Given the HBO series is subtitled "What is the cost of lies?" it seems very ironic - and appalling - that they too are willing to falsify history so much, just for the sake of having "heroes" and "villains" for the audience to relate to. Even the 'heroes' they chose were certainly not purely heroic, including Legasov.

    • Gliz
      Gliz Month ago +2

      @Hannahbeanies What he did know, is that the reactor had stalled, and there should have been at least a 24 hour wait before raising power again. SCRAM, and АЗ-5 are not there to let you almost fuck over the entire reactor, then say "Whoops time to use my fix it all button!" It's there in the event of an uncontrollable emergency, that will result in a meltdown.

    • Hannahbeanies
      Hannahbeanies Month ago +4

      He wasn’t evil, but he was stubborn. He didn’t know how dangerous it was, or that the fail safe method would not work. That was something that the show did talk about. The show also brought up that it would’ve happened eventually even without his influence. He was scapegoated by the government and this is well known.
      However, he was a known bully who intimidated his subordinates, according to other interviews.

    • Gliz
      Gliz 2 months ago +8

      In the podcast for HBO about the making of the series, it is verified that everyone who spoke, walked into the Reactor 4 control room, and what they did and said are accurate. Making Dyatlovs insults, and denial 100% true.
      Dyatlov's belief that the core didn't explode led to the death of Sasha Akimov, and nearly half a dozen more men who had either looked directly into the core... Or attempted to feed water through it under his orders.
      And I have found the real footage, where Dyatlov attempts to claim he was in the bathroom. Didn't blame anyone, but definitely tried to save his own ass

    • David Linkan
      David Linkan 2 years ago +5

      I am interested in both books. Which one of those would you recommend best as being the more thruthful, please ?

  • Lagrangeify
    Lagrangeify 2 years ago +10

    I do find it interesting how the tv series itself somewhat mirrors the Soviet authorities own efforts to hang a few individuals out to dry for the sake of optics. My main take from this interview is that whatever else that can be said about the man, he is very human. It's a shame this at least wasn't reflected better in the show.

  • robmbaboy1
    robmbaboy1 9 months ago +9

    It's absolutely fascinating after reading so much to hear from him. Everyone has their own story

  • mamaboo cee
    mamaboo cee Year ago +11

    Only about 8 ten years went by for him after Chernobyl up to this interview. The stress, the radiation, the misery - really wore on this man.

    • Gabrocol
      Gabrocol Year ago

      In ten years, he aged 30

  • Josh Kresnik
    Josh Kresnik 8 months ago +2

    I can see the humanity in him, the remorse and the pain. He made ill choices but he suffered with the team and paid the price like a man, I do not believe any further criticism is owed to him.

  • MB PM
    MB PM Year ago +1

    Let us all appreciate the fact that Anatoly decided to record his testimony. I would want to clear my own name with as close to factual truth as possible too. This is a predictable yet admirable move after an event as impactful as Chernobyl. Quit the memes and blame for a second and consider his position. He's been wrongfully disgraced to the fullest extent of the Soviet political system and made a parody of in countless documentaries. He finally gave himself a chance to say his part in a story that accelerated the demise of one of the most powerful nations in the world. Here we are, all able to witness a valuable piece of history. Fortunately, some among us aren't driven by stupid comedy.

  • Island ForestPlains
    Island ForestPlains 2 years ago +2

    Thanks for uploading this, and thanks for the translation. The technical expressions are not the correct ones but laymen can get the gist, and the expert knows what is meant - so this really does the job it is meant to do.

  • Vadym Brykalov
    Vadym Brykalov 2 years ago +3

    I'm Ukrainian/Canadian, even without being able to understand the language you can definitely feel the weight of emotion being portrayed on his face at certain times. Everything I learned about Chernobyl growing up turns out to be grossly incorrect. Sudden drastic safety changes to other RBMK reactors after this accident were a start toward clarity.

  • mono fnk
    mono fnk 3 months ago +2

    Very tragic to see Dyatlov this way, he was just a poor and broken man, may he rest in peace.

  • Kasaundra Waldroupe
    Kasaundra Waldroupe 2 years ago +5

    Very interesting interview and just so you guys know, Dyatlov strikes me as someone who never was able to make the transition from military to civilian life. Yes, he cajoled and his co workers found him hard to work with. He saw anyone who disobeyed an order he made as personally insulting him (as you know, military you follow orders without question). He certainly was not the monster that HBO portrayed him to be, and when the reaction exploded, he threw himself into the study of RBMK reactors (he studied them before the accident). He ended up in the same room in Moscow hospital as Akimov and Toptunov and asked them if they had any idea. He watched everyone who was in the control room either away and die, and he became a scapegoat for the accident. Yes he did make I'll advised calls and bullied his subordinates to pushing the reactor to its limits, but HBO portrays him showing no remorse when in fact he had more than we can imagine. He wrote Toptunov's mum a letter after her son died, saying that he emphasized with her loss, and he did not blame Akimov and Toptunov for what happened and did not speak I'll of the dead.
    That is all I have to say.
    Also the subtitles are a pain, but thankfully I can understand Russian so that helps. Other than that, great video.

    • Funny cat videos
      Funny cat videos 6 months ago

      @SpeedWalker Igor hey hey hey hold the FUCK up, it was akimov that insisted the core still existed after the explosion when there was only remnants of the core, not dyatlov. he literally told toptunov and later on, akimov, to go home. if they listened, they would not have gotten a fatal dose of radiation, and he literally would've gotten more radiation than him, but nope, akimov and...i believe it was toptunov? went to lower the rods manually, THEY SAW THE STACK BURNING, and akimov's face basically slowly melted, eventually he could only talk trough tapping his fingers in morse code. it wasnt dyatlov's fault toptunov and akimov died, but akimov insisted that "the core is still there!", he didnt follow dyatlov's orders to go home and went to the core, that ended up to be what killed him, and what put him trough the worst way to die physically and mentally. you got it all mixed up, make actual research and dont think you're the most wise person on this topic with the most knowledge here, you just took some shit from hbo and tought "hell yeah this movie is 100000000000000% accurate to what went down that night, 1:1 recreation!" go tell people what did and didnt probably (or definitely, if provided with enough evidence) happen after you did more research than watching a HBO movie about it which has many facts wrong.
      TL;DR: go do some research other than shit facts on other people when all the research you did was watch a 5 hour HBO miniseries with many things not being true there, you fucking retard.

    • Sergey B
      Sergey B 2 years ago +1

      The cause of the accident were numerous drawbacks of reactor and its safety systems. If you really understand Russian and have intention to get into the matter here are some links that may help:
      статья Карпана: alder.pp.ua/2016/03/blog-post_33.html
      книга Карпана (ОЯБ ЧАЭС, ЗГИС по науке) www.physiciansofchernobyl.org.ua/rus/books/Karpan.html
      доклад Комиссии Госпроматомнадзора (официальное расследование)www.pseudology.org/razbory/GAN/index.htm
      материалы на сайте Дмитриева (начальник реакторного отделения ВНИИАЭС) accidont.ru
      статья Дмитриева n-t.ru/tp/ie/ck.htm
      статья А.Н.Румянцева (д.т.н., зам. директора по научной работе НТК "Электроника" НИЦ "Курчатовский институт")
      www.proatom.ru/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2842
      продолжение статьи www.proatom.ru/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2843
      второй доклад МАГАТЭ INSAG-7 www-pub.iaea.org/mtcd/publications/pdf/pub913r_web.pdf
      книга Дятлова accidont.ru/memo/ChNPP.pdf
      ролики с СИУРом ЧАЭС thexvid.com/video/-ZJVnvhgFIc/video.html
      thexvid.com/video/cINOAGqTkzY/video.html 522968421 22990 89529563128

  • ブラックウィドウ
    ブラックウィドウ 2 years ago +25

    Can help but feel bad for this man, may he rest in peace.

  • Dariune
    Dariune Year ago +213

    if the scientists who designed chernobyl's reactor had to design a car they would make it so when you press the gas it accelerates and when you press the brake it also accelerates but twice as hard

    • williebobtim
      williebobtim 7 months ago

      @Chief but only if you left the car idling for 6 hrs first. Rare enough to not really be noticed in 99% of cases, but should it happen and you need to stop fast (maybe you were driving too fast too)... boom.

    • Chief
      Chief 7 months ago +2

      More like, if you press the brakes the car would accelerate for 5 seconds before slowing down......

    • Jacob Castro
      Jacob Castro 9 months ago

      @Noobovsky yeah, as long as you don't press in the brakes too hard. I bet their pretty damn careful running ant test too.
      The analogy is pretty good.

    • trololoev
      trololoev Year ago +3

      airbags in some cases kill drivers. Or safety belts.

    • Adamski
      Adamski Year ago +11

      You forgot to add the fact that after you hit the brake and it accelerates twice as hard that your car will then explode .....

  • Tony Jenkins
    Tony Jenkins 2 years ago +5

    Well last year I went to Chernobyl and seen the abandoned town, seen the hospital, and spoke with the folks who were actually there. This interview is amazing to hear.

  • Doctor_9
    Doctor_9 Year ago +13

    This is the real Dyatlov, in three dimensions. He's a broken old man filled with regret and haunted by his past. If he'd known the control rods were tipped with graphite I'm sure the accident would never have happened. It would have just been another night. This is the price of cover ups and lies.
    Had the Soviet Union learnt from it's mistakes at Leningrad NPP and Chernobyl Unit 1, and shared information within the nuclear industry about how and why those incidents happened, instead of classifying documents and such, then the accident at Chernobyl Unit 4 may never have happened. We see this kind of mentality within Communist regimes even today. Such as the Chinese Communist Party, which makes believe that it's absolutely perfect. The kind of regime that denies all responsibility for a disaster, covers up the truth, silences whistle-blowers, and can't ever take even one ounce of criticism. A regime that believes itself to be perfected in every aspect. I do however have my sympathies and empathy for Dyatlov, although he was also responsible, he too was a victim of this disaster and made the scapegoat of a regime which wanted to make believe it was infallible.
    The gift of Chernobyl is how it helped break up the Soviet Union. It changed times and forced people to communicate honestly with each other.

  • Wdowa94
    Wdowa94 4 months ago +1

    Reast in Peace Mr. Anatoly. Thank you for your work, disasters are part of inventions

  • stenovitz
    stenovitz 2 years ago +2

    Amazing interview! I did not know the existence of it. I will not begin a discussion speaking Dyatlov's honesty in his commands to the personnel, though it could be reasonable in context of HBO's interpretation, but however, I fully understand his reaction to the described procedures he clung to and the fact of his lack of knowledge about the effect of the control rod graphite in emergency state. Hindsight wisdom is always easy.
    By the time of the catastrophy I was just turned 14 and remember the information level being extremely low here in Scandinavia. Looking retrospectively I'm surpiised the western world got informations within 24-48 hours, from my memory I would have thought 7-10days.
    2 years later I visited Barsebäck nuclear station with my mathematical-physical highschool class and got hooked on nuclear power stations.
    Sadly I got influenced by the political squeamishness here in Denmark; the Chernobyl disaster ended any objective discussions about moving ahead with nuclear energy plans and any public discussions are nowadays cut off unseriously before they even start and being ridiculed. It is, simply political incorrect here to even start talking nuclear energy as a possible way to lower CO2 emmissions.

  • Feliciana Delacruz
    Feliciana Delacruz Year ago +1

    Truly a remarkable piece of history on a terrible and tragic accident that the world is still dealing with even now. Given the closed and secretive nature of Soviet design engineers, not one of the men knew of the flaws in this design and if they did they were sworn to total secrecy. It's easy to make parallels to the many documentaries about this disaster, but coming from the source himself lends a lot more emotion and hindsights than Hollywood ever can. This is an amazing interview and I for one and grateful for the upload, being able to hear the series of events from Anatoly Dyatlov himself. While I am sure mistakes were made the end result is a man that is broken, in ill health and deeply regretful. Sadly he passed away, but this brief interview gives the world an insight of the Chernobyl incident and hopefully mankind will learn the lessons well of these events.

  • Cat Philomel
    Cat Philomel 3 years ago +1322

    It is easy to jugde him with the benefit of hindsight, but we'll never know if he did realise the risks, but ignored them, or he genuenly believed that everything was fine and never expected what has happened.

    • Hector PG
      Hector PG 4 months ago

      ​@Juan Carlos Alas Majano Imagine you are an official of the army and you decide to give the order to jump from a plane violating all the secure procedures and red lights, jumping from the airplane when it´s flying very close to the ground, plus a wind 20 times higher than allowed and with parachutes in bad conditions because you say "well if everything goes wrong because we are taking the maximum risk it doesn't matter because PROBABLY we will have yet the emergency parachute available"
      Do you think if all the soldiers died because of ordering so risky and dangerous jump you can blame the manufacturer of the emergency parachute because it was not good enough ?

    • Juan Carlos Alas Majano
      Juan Carlos Alas Majano 4 months ago

      well he must have known the risks of operating the reactor at below 50% for so long and of removing the control rods, but at the same time he thought that if anything went wrong he had the AZ-5 bottom available to shut down the reactor, which was a lie and he had been misinformed by soviet officials

    • Hector PG
      Hector PG 4 months ago

      This guy took risks that never should have been taken causing directly or indirectly the suffering of thousands of people. He had a big responsibility because He decided to take those risk, it doesn't matter if he believed that everything was fine. If you run a red light wit your car killing someone due to an accident, it doesn't matter if you never expected what happened, you are RESPONSIBLE anyway.

    • NeptuneFog
      NeptuneFog 9 months ago

      Of course he believed everything was fine, because after the accident noone understood what happened and how this could have happened, it’s obvious, he would never take the risks if he knew

    • SkS
      SkS 9 months ago

      He was testing safety measures itself tht night as a maintenance procedure! It could not have been tested without engaging all safety measures! The reactor 4 had faulty design already no matter how much safety measure you engage n the state did not informed the operators abt the faulty design n dysfunction of AZ5 button whose wrk was to shut down the reactor. The operators were in the nuclear power plants r not stupids they know wht they dealing with n the risk it has so tuey follow tye instructions ardently.Dyatlov was made a scapegoat.

  • Beth Krager
    Beth Krager 2 years ago +18

    So here's the thing about telling a story, be it through a book of fiction, a play, a movie, a tv show....
    There are certain rules that need to be adhered to to make the story make sense to the audience.
    There's a hero or heroes, there's a villain or villains, and There's a catalyst that starts or causes the story.
    That's what the scriptwriter had to do. If they didn't, well... See GOT season 8 and how unsatisfying it was. HBO is trying to tell history through the lens of story telling. Telling a narrative, not an exposition of facts, that can only be verified objectively by logs. Human memory is notoriously unreliable, every time you remember something, your brain changes that memory. Its like the subtle changes when you photocopy a photocopy of a photocopy.
    While it's not fair to the real man, in black and white objective facts he is responsible for not saying no to his superiors, and as a higher up in the chain of command the responsibility lies with him for giving the orders. It's the inherent unspoken contract of leadership and subordination. Leaders take the blame, so their underlings who obeyed orders do not.
    Was he scapegoats so that the ussr could pretend nothing was wrong with Russian reactors? Absolutely.
    And so, while its not fair, the kgb, Dyatlov(and his direct superiors) are placed into the narrative role of villains.
    That's why the phrase "based on a true story" is so important as a disclaimer of sorts.

  • Ketamine Kyle
    Ketamine Kyle 3 months ago +1

    He had already spent plenty of time in jail and he knew his days were running short and with that I see no reason not to believe every word this man said here. Even without those factors I trust the word of someone who was there a whole lot more than anything soviet government ever came out and said about it.

  • ElManuel
    ElManuel 2 years ago +17

    There is a second part? it ends abruptly and I really want to hear it all. Amazing work uploading this piece of history, and guilty or not, I am glad Anatolys version of the facts are out there for anybody to hear.

  • Disha Ganguly
    Disha Ganguly Year ago +6

    Thank you for the video. Whatever the quality is, it doesn't matter when it comes to the content. Thank you for bringing us his prospect.

  • Willi Hansen
    Willi Hansen 2 years ago +671

    He's 63, looking like 93. Also, he was next door to an exploding nuclear reactor, but died of heart failure 10 years later.

    • Pluviophile
      Pluviophile 11 months ago

      @Kelby LeSage heart is the only organ that cannot get cancer. Do you even know that?

    • Ann marie Doran
      Ann marie Doran Year ago

      @Daniel Taveira not aways the case you dont have to smoke to get heart disease I know ppl with heart disease which have never smoked

    • MAMET
      MAMET 2 years ago

      He died because it was his time to die. People said he died because he's stress or he like this or like that.

  • _Lodii
    _Lodii Year ago +3346

    Plot twist: It was some random grandpa. Dyatlov was in the toilet.

    • Aluminium
      Aluminium 7 days ago

      @jubi aka joseph i get it (poop)

    • Annoyed cat
      Annoyed cat 10 days ago

      Your accusation is making you sound delusional, somebody take him to the infirmary.

    • _Lodii
      _Lodii 5 months ago

      @Threestars I understood that reference

    • Threestars
      Threestars 5 months ago +2

      3.2K likes.. Not great, not terrible.

    • Matthias Bachetzky
      Matthias Bachetzky 6 months ago

      But it was the toilet of reactor 3, since the toilet from reactor 4 is not there anymore..

  • Ayla Gregg
    Ayla Gregg 2 years ago +1

    Despite the bad footage this film speaks more volumes than any I've seen. A true tradegy that should never have happened but still has massive repercussions today. Tears cannot compensate xxxx

  • Chilli Pepper
    Chilli Pepper 6 months ago +5

    When you’ve been a researcher of the Chernobyl incident for over 10 years and now they make a series everyone’s suddenly an expert. :)

    • Anand Lale
      Anand Lale 6 months ago +4

      Correct 🤣 now everyone knows how the reactor works 🤣

  • Kennys Garage
    Kennys Garage 2 years ago +2

    I feel slight pitty for this frail man. A product of his own making and his environment. He was the one to blame. But I bet the people that lead to this disaster from the top to bottom could not fit in one room.

  • Cymbala
    Cymbala 2 years ago +2

    I just feel sorry for this man and his fate. Of course I know, that he contributed unintentionally to the evolution of that catastrophe and I pity all the victims all over Europe, too...(I was a small kid then, and only a few years after the accident two children at my school fell ill with leukemia and a young neighbour with Hodgkin lymphoma, I'll never know if that was pure coincidence...). But as I look at him, I just get a very slight impression of the burden his memories must have on him. I think there are only few persons in our world who can comprehend his feelings. So, even with his partial debt, I can only write "rest in peace".

  • Jersey Star
    Jersey Star Year ago +18

    It's a piece of history. Thank you for sharing!

  • HenJack2017
    HenJack2017 2 years ago +2

    El video es unico- gracias por publicarlo .Que en paz descansen todas las víctimas de esta tremenda tragedia.

  • Oz Lang
    Oz Lang 2 years ago +2

    If he did everything right - which I’m guessing he did, who would dare to go against the USSR? - I feel terrible for the blame placed upon him, and how he was portrayed. Rest easy, Anatoly Dyatlov.

  • Utelias Majava
    Utelias Majava 2 years ago +54

    1:01:33 "And which court would go against collective mind" Rest in peace Anatoly, I give you absolution.

  • Miniard
    Miniard 6 months ago +2

    Very good interview. Thank you for uploading this. It is very important to know this.

  • Dustin Wolfe
    Dustin Wolfe Year ago +53

    The movie vilified this man. After watching this interview I think I've changed my mind on a few aspects

    • B
      B Year ago +1

      @Roscoe P.ColdChain
      >greed
      >under literal communism
      I've seen everything in "the current year"

    • Roscoe P.ColdChain
      Roscoe P.ColdChain Year ago

      @B I know this as he was the one who was made scapegoat, but the whole building of the reactor was flawed and rushed as they were all under pressure to deliver early cos they received massive bonuses..Greed caused this accident and pure incompetence at the highest level but it’s the normal average joe who gets all the blame, so while he played a part it’s not fair to say it was all down to this man....All you see is just what they want u to believe hell they even tried to hide it from there own people? Suppose that was his fault too ?? 👎

    • B
      B Year ago +1

      @Roscoe P.ColdChain >entirely innocent
      He poisoned the core and then removed ALL control rods except 1.
      Would that been enough for that alone to blow the core? Probably not. But it's not as "innocent" as you tried to imply

    • Roscoe P.ColdChain
      Roscoe P.ColdChain Year ago +1

      @necronomicion00 correct apparently he was a very hard man to work for too as his ego was ginormous that’s if you believe the documentary’s...He was probably entirely innocent but was made the scapegoat by the regime at the time..!!

    • necronomicion00
      necronomicion00 Year ago +2

      but he is one of the causes of the expoltion. If only he had followed the rules...

  • Addicted2wowlulz
    Addicted2wowlulz Year ago +1

    I just want everyone to know, such extreme cases its very hard to judge completely 100% correct all the time, i am not defending Dyatlow.
    But if you are some kind of engineer you will know how its very hard to do any operation.
    I myself is a communications engineer, i did many operations in my short lifetime but not as defining as Mr.Dyatlow, but if you ever just by tiny little chance put yourself in shoes of any engineer in any operation, there are so many variables and it can usually go any way...

  • gamour love
    gamour love Year ago +2

    It was the second reactor which he destroyed unfortunately. The death of his son after the first catastrophe was not a lesson to him, and this time it costed more dearly...

  • jack munday
    jack munday Year ago +1

    I myself really do feel sorry for Dyatlov. I think history has been very unkind to him. Yes he caused the disaster by pushing the reactor too far but he wasn’t aware of the risks. At the time of the disaster the Soviet Union has boasted that there had been no incidents at a soviet nuclear reactor and that the RBMK design was flawless.
    In actual fact there had been fourteen major incidents with the RBMK design and countless other smaller ones. These were all hushed up and kept secret. For the Soviet Union and all communist countries, looking good was more important than safety.
    And that for me is the fascinating thing about Chernobyl. Who do you blame? You can’t blame the control room staff because they were just following orders. You can’t really blame Dyatlov as he wasn’t aware of the risks. You really can’t blame Brokanov or Fomin as they too were ignorant of the dangers. So who is accountable. The only thing you can conclusively blame for the disaster is the Soviet state itself as it kept all involved ignorant of the dangers and consequences. It’s like I say if you don’t tell a child that fire is hot, they will inevitably put their hand in it and get burned.

    • jack munday
      jack munday Year ago

      @Michael Hunter you know your reactors. Just out of curiosity. Do you know how western reactors work and what makes them safer and superior to the positive void coefficient of the RBMK design?

  • Run2Yah 4Salvation
    Run2Yah 4Salvation 2 years ago +5

    I truly believe that this man was unfairly blamed for a great deal, but it cannot be denied that he was by all accounts a jerk to anyone who worked under him and that he did not follow protocol that night. However, the Soviet Government couldn’t take any responsibility for what happened and whatever his shortcomings, he didn’t deserve to be deemed the biggest villain of the story.

    • Run2Yah 4Salvation
      Run2Yah 4Salvation 2 years ago +1

      Sergey B you’re right. And I should add that none of the guys in the control room had any idea about that design flaw; otherwise they probably would have made very different decisions on how to handle the problems.

    • Sergey B
      Sergey B 2 years ago +2

      He was not at all the man that HBO depicted. He was reasonable and most of his collegues respected him. HBO created a villain to attract the public. Nothing more. And all the dialogues in MCR that night were iagined. It comes from Medvedev's book which is nothing more than a pack of lies

  • goldCrystalhaze
    goldCrystalhaze Year ago +14

    Thank you for the video. This is the real Dyatlov, this is what I needed to see.

  • Ivan Sidorov
    Ivan Sidorov 2 years ago +203

    R.I.P Anatoly Dyatlov.
    All movie script classes says that a good drama requires a villain.
    A villain to move show forward and create a believable conflict.
    Shows are made to fire an interest to observe, not to provide facts. I just hope there are people to understand that.

    • Faro 43000
      Faro 43000 Year ago

      I doubt that a good drama needs a villain. Think about classic tragedy. Who is the villain in Oedipus rex? Villains just offer easy explanations for lazy thinkers.

    • cottoncandyflossful
      cottoncandyflossful Year ago

      @Marko Lomovic yes it was communism, he is not entirely at fault or the only villain, it was just a sad brewing tragedy from incompetence and non disclosures inherited from generations before him.

    • swordfish2997
      swordfish2997 Year ago

      then make movies from fictional characters damm it

    • Robert
      Robert Year ago

      @Mr. A-Z LMAO

    • Robert Forsberg
      Robert Forsberg Year ago +2

      @Dmitri Gutorin Go ahead and order the evacuation of any city of your choice... can´t do it ha? Well neither the f**K could he since he had no authority to even suggest that!

  • b3j8
    b3j8 2 years ago

    This interview is a fair look into the real Dyatlov. And yes it is a fact he WAS a stern SOB on the job! So what! He was also reputed to be fair to those under him as well as an excellent Nuclear Engineer! That said, I believe his account of what happened that night is "generally" true. To me, the worst mistake he really made is, after having gone thru a reactor accident earlier in his career, and experiencing severe radiation sickness then, that seeing the terrible damage to the Reactor, he must have suspected that radiation levels would likely be lethal for those First Responders! Yet he refused to inform that Fire Service Leutenant of the danger! That failure more than justifies his prison sentence! Not the Official verdict he, or anyone else in that Control Room, were directly responsible for the accident!

  • Hoodlum Media
    Hoodlum Media 2 years ago +25

    For all who defend, this guy had a history of being wreckless. For those who know more than just a HBO series, you'll know he really was a terrible character. However many years of being shamed by his country have of course made him humble and sad now.

    • Hoodlum Media
      Hoodlum Media 2 years ago +3

      @Stephen Davis you make a very good point

    • Stephen Davis
      Stephen Davis 2 years ago +6

      Sad? For sure. Humble? Debatable. Humble would have heard him admit to at least one mistake. The only thing he said he regrets was sending the two men to manually insert the control rods--but then immediately assumes they never had any intent of following his order anyway. This was a very manipulative account full of attempts to shirk responsibility for his own role in the disaster, which by all accounts even absent the HBO drama was considerable and objectively contributed to the conditions that led to it.

  • ______________________Mr. X______________________

    he lost his son, was accused of the chernobyl accident, radiated 2 times, was at labor camp and only lived long enough to tell us the truth.

  • Krazykov
    Krazykov 2 years ago +240

    The show definitely made him look more like a villain than he really was.
    The main villains are those who kept the information secret about the AZ5 safety button,
    which was known to have a major flaw for over 10 years before the accident.

    • Manti Core
      Manti Core 3 months ago +1

      The show definitely showed flaws in the entire Soviet system. He took big blame too for his arrogant ways which he even shows here in the interview.

    • Christopher De Freitas
      Christopher De Freitas 4 months ago

      The court documents and sworn testimonies seem to fully back up what was put Chernobyl…they’re on the internet.

    • Abhijeet Upadhye
      Abhijeet Upadhye 4 months ago

      @LAURA-ANN CHARLOT Ok graphite tips are removed. What about control rods partially inserted? They are jammed due to heat. This problem also need to address right?

    • Ronald Garrison
      Ronald Garrison 9 months ago +1

      @LAURA-ANN CHARLOT Maybe you should consider writing a book on some nuclear topic. I realize writing a book is not the same as writing a post online (Oh, do I ever!), but you don't seem to have a problem with writing items of significant length. Just don't pick a topic that has already been totally explored. Maybe some special question that is still somewhat unexplored.

  • I I
    I I 28 days ago

    Поклон и вечная память всем ликвидаторам аварии!🕯⚘️🙏

  • george
    george 24 days ago +1

    The truth about Diatlov is that he knew very well that the Safety regulations clearly mentioned that the test should be done at 700mw power.
    He deliberately ignored the regulations and wanted to make the test at only 200mw, in case the test would fail, he would have enough remaining cool water to repeat it. He was warned from the other stuff inside the control room that the test should be done at 700mw, but he wasn't going to change his mind. So, he obviously is responsible for the accident.
    On the other hand, Diatlov himself as long as the rest of the stuff inside the control room, had not been informed about the REASON why the test should be done at 700mw and not at lo power. And the reason was that this type of the reactor was becoming very unstable at lo power. If he knew the reason, any logical man whould have followed the rules. But he didn't follow the rules, because he thought that there was no danger contacting the test at lo power. Another thing is that the operators didn't know that the readings they had about the nuclear operation, where coming from the top of the reactor. The disaster and the meltdown, started at the bottom, in a place where there are not any instraments for measurement. Until the heat and pressure reached the top where it could be measured, pressious time had been lost. And a last thing: Few seconds before the disaster, the personnel pressed the AZT emergency botton to insert all the control sticks inside the reactor and shut it down. But the reaction of this action, was exactly the opposite: After the press of the AZT botton, the energy of the reactor was multipled hundreds of times. After just 8 seconds followed an explosion, and only 2 seconds later, the huge explosion of the core. The stuff at the control room had not been informed about the correct use of AZT emergency botton. They had not the necessary information, that the use of this emergency botton could, in fact, instead of immediately closing the reactor, increase the power temporarily or even explode it!! That happened because the control bars where covered with grafffite, and the sink of all them together initially increased the power before decreasing. So, Diatlov was correctly to blame for the accident, but in fact, it was not the only one to blame. The whole nuclear industry system had fatal "secrets" that the personnel should had been informed. The personnel should have been given more information about the flaws and the weak points of this type of reactor. Everyone can watch this documentary: thexvid.com/video/va61B3xz_Ss/video.html
    Diatlov is telling the truth, but i believe not the hole truth.

  • Bruno Volk
    Bruno Volk 5 months ago +6

    Personally I trust this man more than any Hollywood stile documentary 🤗

  • AZB
    AZB Year ago +203

    Everyone who blames and insults him, must understand that the USSR was a reality most of you could not even understand, yet survive. He had his job to do, orders which came from higher up. The reactor had a flaw. Blame Soviet technology rather than one man.

    • Leslie Griffin
      Leslie Griffin 10 months ago

      In Russia if anyone work at .power.Station in 1986..and speak out ..you get shots or get nasty discipline

    • x666xIronMaiden
      x666xIronMaiden Year ago

      @Tom K It may be true they are still running, but now they know that this happens if you do the set order of things they did in Chernobyl so of course it has not happened again since.

    • Tom K
      Tom K Year ago

      @Ron Connor According to my sources the designers were not fully aware of the problems in all areas - only some areas. Thus operation at any power level was allowed. The main problem with the reactor design was that it had so many ways to go boom that it was unacceptable. Even perfectly trained staff can make human mistakes & with RBMK it meant boom. He did not supposedly follow instructions as to the minimum number of rods present - however in his defense the numbers were no easy to calculate. There were previous problems recorded with low power operation - it is unclear these were not know to anyone. Bottom line is he run the test and it blown up on his watch. Sure he may not known that having less rods is a bad idea & dropping them all down to shut down reactor is a very bad idea BUT we cannot totally white wash the guy. Besides he does not seem to be shown in good light by his collogues that seem to see him more like in the HBO show then his own description of a very nice guy.

    • Ron Connor
      Ron Connor Year ago +2

      @Tom K Zero have gone skywards because of Chernobyl. All of their dozen or so dangerous flaws were fixed. RMBK were notoriously cheap and poorly made. You need to understand, that literally every single one is a prototype. They were all mass produced to meet USSR central planning needs. Before they had even a single one built. Many tests showed dangerous problems relating to the control rods, safety mechanisms, and turbine operation, at certain power levels. USSR censored all of these in 1980. Had they simply informed chief engineers in each power plant, these problems could’ve been fixed in a month. Every time a RBMK reactor was operating outside of normal, you were playing with a nuclear bomb. Had Dyatlov been aware of these faults, and simply left a few more critical control rods in, none of this would have happened.

    • covb
      covb Year ago +2

      @Mei Guei Let me clarify something Mr. Mad.
      1) Vodka was a common thing, infact tastier than "clean water" that the CCCP gave to their own citizen. And from my own personal experience, alcohol does calm you down. Now i never had vodka, and i dont really want to
      2) During the underground mining. (i would assume that you have watched the series) They were digging a tunnel 12 meter deep inside the ground, full of dust and potentially, a above normal dose of radiation. Now i would also assume that you dont have a brain of a rock to not imagene how hot is 12m below ground. And of course they would go naked. You're alive for about 3-4 months but job done... right?

  • SuprChickn 77
    SuprChickn 77 2 years ago +7

    I will only say this... If it's true, as has been alleged, that Mr. Dyatlov was an arrogant man who threatened people's jobs and forced allegiance through such threats, this only shows the danger of arrogance in important work. People who make excuses and blame only faulty processes and don't have the humility and sense to listen to others when important questions are brought up or don't pause to assess the wisdom of continuing a course of action as conditions change are only making themselves a part of the problem and are unfit for such important positions. They are undoubtedly at least, partly to blame for any destruction or death that results from such foolishness.

    • maksphoto78
      maksphoto78 2 years ago

      I have not come across any proof of that notion. Everything I've heard points to the experiment being a fairly calm scene, where people knew what they were doing. There was some debate after power was lost, but nothing in the rules forbade them raising power back again. When the power starter rising again (due to positive void coefficient and removal of xenon poisoning), they pressed AZ-5 button to shut the reactor down. Due to bad reactor design (the "end effect" of graphite tips", the reactor accelerated to the point of steam explosion.

  • Taysav 123
    Taysav 123 Year ago +9

    The fact that only 1 person ever has seen the explosion from their own eyes is a fireman on the street who most likely didn't survive. Crazy to think about that only one person who is now most likely dead is the only person to witness the explosion of the building.

  • M Lab
    M Lab 2 years ago +2

    He's a scapegoat. He might have been a difficult man and made bad judgement calls that night, but in the end the explosion occurred because the reactor had a lot of design flaws that were kept secret from the people working on it, Dyatlov included.

    • maksphoto78
      maksphoto78 2 years ago

      Exactly. These were supervisors and operators acting acroding to the then-established rules.

  • Forger Forty Seven
    Forger Forty Seven 2 years ago +2

    I love how he still holds onto the ideology' that things must be told and seen by those in power, in that time.

  • bee4010
    bee4010 Year ago +18

    I bet there wasn’t a day where he didn’t think about what happened and wished he had done something different. What a torment that must be.

  • gheckolock81
    gheckolock81 Year ago +8

    The "Dyatlov" character in the HBO series was clearly the result of writers taking dramatic license to create a composite character. The portrayal of events in the series argues that the type of thinking and behavior they wrote into this character was responsible for the disaster. The real Dyatlov was in reality just one cog in a vast institution that behaved with reckless disregard for human life and our environment. it is more dramatic to symbolize this reality with a single villain for a popular audience.

    • Steve Mikkelsen
      Steve Mikkelsen 6 months ago

      To be fair, the series did under the trail show one person blaming the goverment and daytlov. Daytlov for not knowing what he was doing and the goverment for hiding the design flaw of the reactor. The way they made him in the show i cant really care about because that really has Nothing to do with the accident. Like it or not a person who has a high ranking job always has more responsibility, and the reactor was his at that time. So even if he thought he did everything right it doesent mean he was not responsible.

    • Milan Joseph
      Milan Joseph 8 months ago

      @gheckolock81 @knoz true, though we cannot put a percentage of whose fault it was, the question of who was responsible for the set of events that led them to use the AZ-5 button is still there. In the interview he barely mentioned that, if everything went according to plan, why they reached such a situation is indeed something that he should have mentioned

    • gheckolock81
      gheckolock81 Year ago

      @Knoz 30 control rods minimum. That is what popped up for me. They removed all but the 6 that were not possible to remove.

    • Knoz
      Knoz Year ago

      @gheckolock81 Hmm, interesting. You make a good point too. The faulty design of the scram on the RBMK is terribly bad and totally not the operators fault. But actually maybe the operators WERE right in saying "this is not safe" because while they did NOT know about the scram bug, it IS generally and broadly unsafe to mess around with a poisoned reactor because it is in a fluctuating and non determined state and adding huge positive reactivity to a huge, spacious and very volumetric core only kept safe by a bunch of xenon isotopes is probably a bad idea. I would love to hear the opinion of an older soviet operator on this. The google search term gave me no direct insight but some long pdfs by reputable organizations such as the German GRS, i shall read them some day, but certainly not this week. Too much work to do :P

    • gheckolock81
      gheckolock81 Year ago

      @Knoz This is an awesome conversation! I definitely agree with all your insights, particularly keeping secret design shortcomings that directly impact safe running of the reactor as well as the nature of being ordered to do something by a superior in the Soviet system. But those points are actually not the main focus of Dyatlov's argument here. He emphasizes how far away he was from the reactor operators and how they were speaking in calm and regular voices that did not demand his attention and how he had been out of the room at the time. All of these things are to help him justify why it was not his fault that there were only six control rods in the reactor when they activated AZ5. Slap these keywords in google "rbmk reactor minimum control rod" you will get a very interesting response. Clearly he is trying to distance himself from the operators pulling more control rods than protocol allows, and in the next breath he claims that absolutely no protocols were breached and the design of the reactor is entirely to blame. He is a flat out liar.

  • thyrampantpigeon
    thyrampantpigeon 2 years ago +117

    I feel quite bad for the memory of Dyatlov, sure he was a bit of a dick while in work, but he was an unflinching professional.
    The TV series, as amazing as it was, made him out to be a villain type of character, but I guess TV series need a sense of good guys and bad guys.

    • Chilli Pepper
      Chilli Pepper 6 months ago

      If you’d like to know. It’s not 100% certain but there is some accounts that give us the idea it was actually quite calm in the control room. The test had failed, but they agreed to shut down the reactor and call it a night, it was as they were getting ready to leave that the explosion occurred. This might not be true of course

    • Bulletz4life
      Bulletz4life Year ago

      @Mei Guei Good ol' samagonka.

    • RAF laughter
      RAF laughter Year ago

      @BeShared Rotterdam He died in 1995, long before HBO even considered making a series. Obviously, he couldn't cooperate. Dead men can't defend themselves. That's why HBO made him the villain in their series.

    • Gimmix89
      Gimmix89 Year ago

      @BeShared Rotterdam hes dead.. All Series need a bad villian, so they choose him. He wasnt this bad in real. The Series has many unreal scenes. The bridge scene isnt real also.

  • Erik Gonzales
    Erik Gonzales 10 months ago +19

    I half expected him to say "No you can't interview about the Chernobyl disaster because IT NEVER HAPPENED!...now lower the control rods"

  • Carl Willis
    Carl Willis 2 years ago +13

    Thank you for providing a competent English translation. Dyatlov has been relatively ignored as a surviving witness, victim, and technical expert, I think because of an enduring belief that he was at least partly culpable for the accident. He wrote a book that is still available only in Russian, as well as technical articles. These are not at the top of anyone's reading list about Chernobyl, but they should be.

    • Carl Willis
      Carl Willis 2 years ago

      @Eugene very kind of you, sir!

    • Eugene
      Eugene 2 years ago

      Hey Carl! Your channel is great :)

  • MsNick991
    MsNick991 2 years ago

    The Chernobyl scene from control room seems quite accurate judging by what Dyatlov said,except that he didn't mentioned that power surge when the power level was at 200MV,and he said that Toptunov engaged AZ-5 instead of Akimov.

  • REYK
    REYK Year ago +3

    Valery Hodyumchuk was inside the 4th reactor at the time of its explosion. His body has never been found to this day, it seemed to have disappeared.

    • sui generis
      sui generis Year ago +3

      After being exposed to the radioactive equivalent of the sun? I’m shocked.

  • bhupesh chitre
    bhupesh chitre 2 years ago

    From all that we read about it, its incompetence that lead to that situation. The interview fortifies that theory. Of course, we are in 2019, armed with more knowledge about performance tests etc..
    No amount of regret will brink back the lives of so many unfortunate and naive people. It is a very harsh and painful lesson at an astronomical cost.

  • KEYBOARD COMMANDO Official

    When the worst nightmare becomes a reality and then multiplies by a million, i hope no one will ever again have to face this fate

  • 100 akz
    100 akz 3 years ago +168

    a broken human being. broken by the accident, by the system and judged without knowing the truth. everyone makes mistakes but fortunately not everyone works in a nuclear power plant. RIP:-(((

    • ??
      ?? 2 years ago +1

      bros, the test was meant to start between 700-1000 megawatts but Dyatlov yelled at his workers to start from 200. there was an error and the reactor needed to be shut down but Dyatlov yelled to continue the test

    • Emrah Gültekin
      Emrah Gültekin 2 years ago

      Muhammad Amir Shehzad , ok he did what he had to and shot down the reactor then explosion. İf the show telling the truths he had to warn city commity or governer to evacuate the city immediately, in real people continued to live in the city for more 30 hours !

    • AXsircus
      AXsircus 2 years ago +14

      very smart man at the least, the show didn’t portray that correctly

    • Alexander Zamani
      Alexander Zamani 2 years ago +10

      100%, hope he's not judged entirely by the show.

  • Dinar
    Dinar 7 months ago +2

    I know his incompetence helped with the disaster, but it wasnt his fault entirely, but i bet ignorant or misinformed people were still blaming him for everything. imagine driving a car fast, and fully confident that if you hit the brakes, the car will start slowing down, is it dangerous to drive fast? Yes, but if the car instead of stopping when you pulling the brakes started go even faster, is it really entirely your fault if you hit something?

  • Vesselin Krastev
    Vesselin Krastev Year ago +2

    In case anyone is not aware, there is series of podcasts accompanying the TV show in which the creator talks about the actual history of the events based on his research in comparison to the dramatization. I highly recommend listening to the podcasts. They are available on YT. In these podcasts, the creater of the show claims that according to all accounts they were able to find, the character of Dyatlov that they presented in the show was accurate. He mentions that he is aware of statements that the actual Dyatlov made after the tragedy, such as this interview, but he finds them not credible.

  • Sir Cashew
    Sir Cashew 9 months ago +1

    Here is what I know. International agencies produced reports damning the lax safety standards and the flaws in the RMBK design. At the end of the day, he was responsible for what happened because he was the engineer in charge when the explosion happened. While an interview from Dyatlov is important and has its insights, it must be compared with others and the second by second breakdown of events. He might be telling the truth in this or he might not be. Bare in mind that men found to be guilty tend to try to justify their acts and/or attempt to rewrite what happened to make them look better. The most notable of this instance were high ranking Germans after WW2. You must look at ALL the evidence before you. While he didn’t know the flaw in the AZ-3 kill switch, the circumstances in which the flaw in AZ-3 became catastrophic was his fault.

  • Erik Terock
    Erik Terock 2 years ago

    Without any of us having been there, it's easy to make judgement but it's hard not to feel bad for Anatoly. I get that the HBO series made him a criminal, but this seemed like a guy who wanted to tell his story honestly and as best he cam remember it. Maybe he really was that bad, and maybe it really is his fault, but he seemed pretty genuine and willing to tell his story in this interview.

  • Michael Saul
    Michael Saul 6 months ago +2

    I personally don't think he was totally to blame... he was under immense pressure from higher ups to get the test done. Back then everything was about power and how high you can get in the party. If he didn't do it someone else would have and could have potentially been worse.
    Dude paid the price for his sins.. let the man rest in peace..

  • Masted 2323
    Masted 2323 3 days ago

    He lost his son to Leukaemia ,he received an excessive dose of radiation poisoning working on submarines and then he was in charge of Chernobyl reactor No 4 .The man was not afraid of the atom .

  • Jonathan
    Jonathan Year ago +2

    It’s difficult to get through this with poorly displayed subtitles. The reactor itself was risky and clearly NOT designed with safety in mind. There was no containment shield built as part of the original reactor design. Carbon instead of water was used as the moderator. Both of these factors were key contributors to the consequences of the disaster. All the statements about regulations and safety protocols being followed are moot, since the regulations and protocols themselves were inadequate.

  • ______________________Mr. X______________________

    this interview is a real treasure

  • Benevolent
    Benevolent 3 years ago +2286

    Seeing all of you here means that Chernobyl the mini series were a great starting point for your research

    • JRAXReviewsXCosplayXMore
      JRAXReviewsXCosplayXMore 3 months ago +1

      Pfft, nah I was researching Chernobyl in high school about age 16?, I’m 26 now. I do enjoy the mini series though

    • Viktor Michael
      Viktor Michael 4 months ago

      To be honest, I was watching all of those declassified atomic test films, and Chernobyl starting coming into my home feed. I binged on everything, from Stalkers at the Exclusion Zone, to lectures from professors. So, I said, I know enough now, let Me watch it.

    • Piotr Malewski
      Piotr Malewski 2 years ago +1

      @tincho I think the show would have been much better just in artistic terms, if Dyatlov was a more nuanced character in a more complex situation. Like the description he gives here or somthing in between. A man trying to find a compromise between different expectations and regulations, who handled the situation when then, something went wrong, and trying to find out what happened when he heard the blow, and saw readouts blacking out, realises that for some reason he wasn't in control of anything, and doesn't know why.

    • StabbyMcBlade
      StabbyMcBlade 2 years ago

      Let's be honest people, the only people who know how accurate dyatlovs character was portrayed is the fat guy with the glasses, the tall skinny guy with light hair, the tall skinny guy with a big nose, the fat guy that held the door with the bleeding legs, and that guy off game of thrones that went to the roof to stick his face in the reactor...

  • Constantin Vasiliev
    Constantin Vasiliev Year ago +1

    Thank you very much for this video. It's nice to get acquainted with the real man, which seems quite different from how HBO portrayed him.