YouTube's Big Problem --- UPDATE
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- Published on Nov 11, 2019
- I have an update to the situation regarding TheXvid suspending people's accounts. After speaking with people at TheXvid and coordinating with those that have been affected (with the help of my mods) I'm happy to the say that the problem is currently being worked on! It's not FIXED yet but things are moving in the right direction to make sure that this never happens again. Watch for the full details and please signal boost so people are aware.
A huge thank you to my mods who have helped communicate the issue and gather information through the whole process! This is still a work-in-progress but I’m happy things are getting done!
Markiplier
I can’t wait
For my account to be fixed THAT TheXvid SUSPENDED
"This should have never happened because they were copying and pasting" - Well, some live chats may actually want a spam rule. copying and pasting as many messages as you can is a red flag for any type of spamming. If I ran a live chat, I personally wouldn't want people spamming if I were trying to have conversations with my followers.
If anything came out of this I see two things: 1 TheXvid needs to allow creators to turn on or disable chat filters at their own choosing. This way you can allow spamming behaviour if you want. I can see why they have a limit. Imagine being a small channel with 50 people in a live stream, and 3 are in there just spamming messages over and over to ruin it. They need to be stopped or the creator needs the ability to remove them from the chats. Live chats with hundreds of people are just a shit show. I don't even bother participating in a live stream if messages are just rolling by and the creator is only responding to 1 out of every 100 messages. Waste of time and most people use them just to spam ridiculous things to get a rise out of people. It's a real problem for some channels who are involved with Drama. You get tribal fans raiding live chats and spamming. This is a legitimate issue.
#2 A lot of TheXvidrs run contests and polls with their viewers. A quick polling feature might be useful to avoid the Spam issue.
The context of this is that Markiplier was OK with spamming. The problem is, what some of those users were doing was the definition of spamming. This is where the creator needs the power to say, I want them to be able to spam my chat.
It's more of a - how do we handle this situation because different people are going to want different behavior behind the scenes.
The real issue here is the manual review. It's at such a large scale and the problem it's totally out of nearly every technological companies hands as it continues to grow.
My guess is, reviewers probably have to get through hundreds if not 1000's of reviews a day. That means you have only so much limited time to investigate. My guess is, they get a case, they see why: oh user sent 100 messages in less this amount of time - reject. All handled within less than 30 seconds.
You could argue, well they should handle every case with care and time and context. Impossible. Literally is. You can want that, but it ain't going to happen. It's not a solution to hire more manual reviewers. It just isn't. Advances in A.I and machine learning are going to be required and that's still in its infancy.
Rather than they are villains, I'd like to hear some legitimate ideas about how they could solve that process?
people deserve to get banned who use emojis especially crying laugh and heart eyes and cry emoji
This is one weird looking dude. So you lost your pay pigs? Why does this alien baby head lookin weird-dow have pay pigs in the first place.
Thank goodness! Thank you for making videos on the subject Mark!!! And thank you mods for alarming everyone, I wouldn't of known if it weren't for you guys!
As-salamu alaykum :)
I absolutely love how passionate Mark is when it comes to his fans. It's very inspiring. Thanks Mark and his Mods to being amazing humans!
As-salamu alaykum :)
YAAAAAY GO MARK!
Where pewds at?
Thanks Suzanne!
Mark what about all the mid size channels that are being hacked and sold off?
Good
I’m so happy! That the problem is being fixed! My sister has been a fan of you for such a long time and would love to hear the great news!
It's funny how THIS seemed like TheXvid's "big problem". Here we are, less than a month later and we all see that TheXvid has a MUCH bigger problem.
We need to address coppa more :(
They really should look at plagiarist channel such as Calon Sarjana whose contents are only copy paste from other channels without asking for permission or even citing the sources, add dubbing in other language, then claiming those videos as their own. They have Millions subs and taking the ads money for such disgusting practices.
Hey Mark how do you feel about coppa other communities will get effected like my community is gonna get effected we won't Be able to have stories have a comment section or anything like that and it's effecting a lot of communities it's got creators in my community crying, depressed, dark thoughts and if my community is hurting and being effected like this it makes me very disappointed at how TheXvid forgot about TheXvid kids TheXvid is taking our freedom of talking to a fans and our fans are our family when we're down they bring us back up like a fellow creator I know and I'm a fan of she had her depressed moments but our family in my community it huge and coppa is taking us all down if they think our content I kid friendly cause my community is a chibi community called the gacha community the stupid thing is if we say our videos are not kid friendly and TheXvid says they are regardless what things could be in the video there might be a fine for us to pay and most of the people in my community are 13+ or lower yet we all still has gore & profanity and they may still have us on kid friendly that isn't right I just wanna know your opinion on it and sorry if this is really long I just wanna hear someone else out of my community's opinion
The TheXvid Ban is now a historical landmark on the internet!
Less than 1% of people who rated this video disliked it, but it's still a lot of people.
What does it mean to Signal Boost? (Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question)
At'a boy Marki!
Please address the COPPA issues. Especially for the content creators.
Mark talk about coppa please
will it be bad if i am using an adult figure account while i am still a minor and the google account gets deleted? Do you think i willed he punished or..? I have so fuckin scared. Like- this was 3 weeks ago. I thought it was years but.. i swear. Im nervous. I cant afford to be jn school and lose my school work. All my money. All of my ACTUAL BOOKS THAT I HAVE FUCKING WORKED FOR. Gone. Just boom. Please help, i need you to help me. What do i do?? I feel the same way and everything that happened help. I have been a fan for so many years.. i have almost gotten banned. 2 strikes. Wanna know why? I re-uploaded a video that had a mistake and youtube striked me for both. Ngl i didnt know it was bad. And -I- deleted the video. Please update. Your the best fricken dad i ever had. TheXvid it destroying itself. Also, lemme know if this gets striked or anything. I posted this on two different videos on this subject so- im getting a *lil* nervous. Thanks.
And in exchange for this good will, they're turning around & pulling this "kid friendly" bullshit & gonna eviscerate thousands of more channels/users.
Pure evil chuckleheads.
Kinda wish I knew this before I deleted my channel. Pfft.
They're not monsters, they're just incompetent.
Awesome it's being fixed that's great news.
Well id like to say that thay disable my comments and GAVE ME A STRIKE for no reason over sexual content even tho its not i make asmrs for the love of god like ugh i cant 🙄
He should have been aware of Coppa right now!
its not getting fixted they are lieing
Great to hear. Whew!
Nice to hear buddy.
Bro I used to hate Mark and I was so mad when he uploaded a video, no matter what he's doing, I reported his videos. Reminder, I was 5.
Now, I'm his fan. I would love to be a member but, I'm broke af. Anyways, I would always share his videos, like the videos, and watch everything. Being Mark's fan, cry with him, and emotionally feel connected with him.
The point of this comment is, I'm here for you always and I wish forever but, no one lives forever. My youtube channel started just because of you and Jack and Felix. So here I am, my thanks to you is being here with you. You probably won't notice this but, all I want to say is I love you and I love your content, your channel and everything.
btw tell your family if you see this their more pro than mark
Mark: I fixed it!!
Coppa: *evil laughter*
STORM COPPA! THEY CAN'T STOP US ALL!
Markiplier Channel Will Die. If The COPPA Still Exist in 2020.
The fact that Mark is actually getting things fixed just shows how much he actually cares, and makes me respect him of the highest order
Anybody’s account that got banned and got back thanks to Markiplier, leave a like!
Yea, it's always one of those two... Al Gorithm or Censor Ship. About time social media fired both of them 🤔
Off to Patreon and Storyfire
hEEEEEEEEEERRRES *COPPA*
This has nothing to do with this but I'll mention it anyway:
When ever I do the 10 second skip thing on TheXvid, right after the short pause I hear something that's half a second. It sounds like the entire video audio sliced into half a second and stacking all of that, *it sounds like earape*
All TheXvid content creators need to bring a class action suit against TheXvid/Google for one simple reason ~ ACCESS.
Collection of children’s data can ONLY occur if children have ACCESS to the TheXvid/Platform. Who defines and controls access to the platform? ONLY Google/TheXvid - not the content creators.
In fact, Google/TheXvid have consistently maintained the platform is for the above 13 crowd. That’s how it is marketed to the content creators. Do the analytics provided to the creators show an age breakdown below 13 years of age?
The LIABILITY for COPPA should rest with those responsible for ACCESS to the platform.
I think it is important to distinguish accountability for who should actually be responsible for the liability with regards to COPPA on the TheXvid/Google (hereinafter, TheXvid) platform.
So let’s simplify things - the issue is gathering children’s personal information.
The content creators do not collect that data. TheXvid does.
The content creators do not make the decisions regarding the use of that data. TheXvid does.
The content creators don’t solicit advertising for the TheXvid platform. TheXvid does.
The content creators don’t authorize access to the TheXvid platform. TheXvid does.
The content creators didn’t establish the 13 year old requirement to have a regular TheXvid account, the law did and TheXvid is responsible for ensuring adherence to that law.
Therefore all regular TheXvid content creators are under the valid assumption that ACCESS to the regular TheXvid platform is to the above 13 year old crowd. Content creators also know that if children are accessing their content through a valid, TheXvid account that the guardians have given implicit consent to do so by allowing their children to access that content through said account. Content creators whose target audiences are children, or even mixed audience, on the regular TheXvid platform rely on the ACCESS point (the Google or TheXvid account) to have been properly vetted upfront by Google/TheXvid.
It all boils down to the single point of entry to the TheXvid platform. And that control lies with TheXvid. TheXvid is trying to pass the buck and muddy the issue by creating smoke and mirrors with the “selections” content creators must choose when posting the videos. The liability should ONLY rest on Google/TheXvid.
While the content creators may specify who their target audience is, they ultimately should not be responsible - nor should be held accountable- for data collected by TheXvid and data used by TheXvid because ALL ACCESS to the TheXvid platform is controlled by TheXvid.
Mark, will you be affected by COPPA? you swear, so your channel isn't completely for kids, but your funny reactions to scary things, may be appealing to children.. I don't wanna lose you too!
Hey Mark, it's been a while since you've posted this video, but I just want to express my gratitude for you. I never got involved in this mess or even heard about this problem until NOW, but it sounds extremely terrifying to get your accounts banned. But after watching your vlogs I feel incredibly safe. I feel protected because you are willing to risk your account to save ours. You are willing to risk your TheXvid career to save our community. And I think I can speak for everyone else here that we are very thankful for that. You are amazing, Mark. And if there's a better word than amazing, you're that. I feel proud to be a part of your community, Markiplier. Thank you for being you, and we love you for you!
7:22 "...a drop in the bucket..." More like a drop in the swimming pool... 2 swimming pools.
There's the COPPA situation?
Mark please address COPPA. You fortunately have a successful account and we really need this to be spread around so that everyone knows.
youtube: I take ur accounts
people: whyyyy
TheXvid: emotes
People:daaaaaaad
Marklipier: what
People: TheXvid terminated our accounts
Marklipier: So you have chosen death........ TheXvid
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Cedar Trace everything 😱😭😢
Could you please make a video on how you feel about the latest updates with COPPA and the FTC? You are one of the most influential people here on youtube and you have power that not a lot of people could dream of having. The FTC released a new list of what counts as targeted towards kids and basically Animation channels and Game channels are done for. Even if we flag that the video is not intended for children you'll either be fined $42k, or your video will be deleted.
This so called"Andrew Smith" man the director of the FTC I think of him as a unexpectedly foolishly selfish fool who what TheXvid channels deleted even my old and new channels in the future I along with every TheXvidr around the world will have no respect for his stupidity and that he must leave his FTC career in shame that he is a discrace for a director himself along with him partners.
Ban coppa.
wooooooooooo :O
TheXvid cavó his own grave. And we watched doing that.
im too scared to leave a comment..
Soooh, still unable to access my account..
This is sadly relevant now thanks to COPPA
I could tell the guy that wrote the reddit was from the UK because he said “bloody hard” not trying to offend anyone though
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ja myślałem że to izak na miniaturce xD