No-deal Brexit: Flu vaccine delays 'likely' - BBC Newsnight

  • Published on Aug 29, 2019
  • Doctors and NHS leaders have warned that a no-deal Brexit would make it "likely" there will be a delay in flu vaccine supply this year.
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    They say the EU departure date coincides with the winter season in a way that creates "a perfect storm for the NHS".
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Comments • 438

  • So What
    So What 2 months ago

    who even gets these flu vaccines why ?
    get the flu be strong and it goes away
    how weak are your immune systems ?

  • SevenMagpies
    SevenMagpies 3 months ago

    BBC leftist, and utterly disingenuous, fear mongering. Hateful.
    Does anyone honestly believe that anyone is going to impose tariffs on the imports of medicines???
    TRUTH challenge: Can anyone, anywhere, think of one honestly and practically beneficial thing that being ruled by the EU Commission (not old EEC/EC "Common Market" international agreements such as EFTA. ) has brought, or will bring, to the people of the UK? Just one.
    More especially, can anyone think of anything worth relinquishing the precious birthright of all future generations to their blood protected Magna Carta rights, liberties and protections?
    Or am I wrong to ask?
    Is rule by a distant, wholly unelected, heavily tariff protected, yet already economically failing and nationally destructive, experimental and vastly expensive corporate plutocracy that holds all its meetings in complete secrecy, never publishes any audited accounts, and with an openly determined agenda of cultural and societal homogenisation, really worth agreeing to total subservience?
    Is it such an honour that every British person should meekly accept its cynical deluge of self-serving 'one size fits all' regulation, and just hand over their children's uniquely precious birthright to personal sovereignty and Common Law, .... in perpetuity? Would someone please, please explain? PLEASE!
    Alternatively, has anyone out there ever read Orwell or Huxley, or are these authors on the politically corrected book burning list to maintain safe spaces in our EU manipulated universities?
    Or, for that matter, has anyone studied the genocidal history of the 20th century ?
    Get a grip Britain.

  • JimmyROTV
    JimmyROTV 3 months ago

    So sick of the biased broadcasting company's scare tactic rhetoric

  • Angelic Play
    Angelic Play 3 months ago

    The most important is the leaving the EU. The United Kingdom and Germany under the dictatorship.

  • Greg Jones
    Greg Jones 3 months ago

    How many of those people sneezing were British?

  • David Essam
    David Essam 3 months ago

    There absolutely *will* be a shortage of kleenex.. with all the remoaners crying....

  • Mark Espitallier
    Mark Espitallier 3 months ago

    Q. B

  • Michael P
    Michael P 3 months ago

    The BBC needs to be stopped. Don't pay the fee.

    HYUKLDER1 3 months ago +2

    The government should prorogue the EU BBC as well to stop its 24 hour broadcasting of anti Brexit propaganda.

  • Oman victory
    Oman victory 3 months ago

    Flu vaccines are disastrous for overall health. They dont work and make billions for evil scientists and doctors. Look at the guy with eyes. Face if evil

  • abcun17
    abcun17 3 months ago

    Ewwwww. That was disgusting... didn't really need to see the spittle hit everything...LOL...still Newsnight is brilliant!

  • David Roberts
    David Roberts 3 months ago

    They really don’t want us to leave do they ;-)

  • Grumpy Australian
    Grumpy Australian 3 months ago


  • HitManHey
    HitManHey 3 months ago

    I though remoaners wanted all the old 'they've stolen muh future' Brexit voters dead anyway!?!

    MrRRHHMM 3 months ago

    more gutter 'project fear' from this National Disgrace of a broadcaster... The bbc ''Where truth and integrity go to die''

  • AlienTenno
    AlienTenno 3 months ago

    Scrapping the bottom of the barrel now LOL

  • Lee Robinson
    Lee Robinson 3 months ago

    If your ill stop coming into work and passing it to coworkers and then going home at lunch time as all you do is make everyone else ill so if your ill phone in sick and stay at home nhs ,worker

  • flat eman
    flat eman 3 months ago

    A arse licking brown nosed newsnight report have warned that politicians will lose out on big fat backhanders and there will be a shortage of erotic nannies , free holidays and naughty weekends away with the secretary euro candidate sir Steven Smyth Smyth the turd twice flushed bobbed back from the u bend simply said Bugger

  • Amanda Hughes
    Amanda Hughes 3 months ago

    I'm still waiting for the dose of super gonorrhea that the BBC promised us all due to Brexit.

  • GH1618
    GH1618 3 months ago +1

    We have flu vaccine in North America although neither Canada nor the U.S. is in the EU.

  • Christine Buzzi
    Christine Buzzi 3 months ago +1

    VACCINES..... AVOID AT ALL COSTS. The additive, which can be aluminum, causes all sorts of problems. Alzheimer's ? Maybe. Autism?
    Check it out. I'm glad vaccines were not in vogue when I was young. Started school at 4.5 years and for the first six months I was home with measles, mumps, chicken pox etc,. I survived! Great immune system. Now a senior am proactive! This does not mean vaccines, more like
    Hand washing and other good habits.
    The doctor wanted me to go on blood pressure pills, I refused, told her I would work it out. I was stressed, had little sleep so I knew what the problem was. I knew it would go down once solved the problem I was having. It worked, got it down to 130/64! WITHOUT pills.

  • Swiss Tony
    Swiss Tony 3 months ago +1

    Why doesn’t the BBC report on the Yellow Vest Protests in France?

  • Romano Canevari
    Romano Canevari 3 months ago +1

    So vaccines will run short after Brexit. Doesn't flu' affect mostly old age pensioners, most of them Brexiteers? Won't that be an unmissable opprtunity? A blessing in disguise? Of course!

  • Isaac Hunt
    Isaac Hunt 3 months ago

    You can still get bird flu jabs just the same

    • Amanda Hughes
      Amanda Hughes 3 months ago

      Oh good, thats the parrot sorted then.

  • Rupe Wilson
    Rupe Wilson 3 months ago +5

    Its amazing the illegal refugee/immigrant can cross the channel in less than a day, maybe give them a call to bring the flue vaccine with them as they pop across..

  • Dominic Hill
    Dominic Hill 3 months ago

    Hahaha. More bullshit.

  • L v B
    L v B 3 months ago +2

    BRITTAIN GOT OFF THE LIST of the Word Health Organisation ..

  • Bendigeidfran Emmanuel Jones

    The people of the EU countries will all vaccinate themselves 3 times, force-feed themselves like french geese, and everyone buy six cars each. Yes. They won't want to sell these things for money. No.

  • Nell philpott
    Nell philpott 3 months ago +3

    BBC is perfectly corrupt.

  • Brendan Gavaghan
    Brendan Gavaghan 3 months ago +1

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha so someone gets to sneeze once or twice and everyone is now MORE worried about getting a valueless 25% botchup that doesn't even work, than they are about a dog getting more information from sniffing another dog's arse than is reported in the media, than they are about FOOD, than they are about nurses at food banks, than they are about life saving medicine, or about the prosperity of their children
    no, none of that bothers ANYONE but see when a risky dodgey botched up dangerous chance at an immunity from something that they can't even prove an immunity for?

    And only NOW panik?
    and anyway
    if it works, and the flu is dead inside the vac, then why worry about it 'going off' it's just a few genetic fragments and an odd capsid
    what exactly is going to 'go off'?
    everything about this vid pisses me off
    but I'm so glad people woke up over something really
    but over a 1/4 of a chance at not getting a cold that carries a serious risk and doesn't go off getting slightly delayed? Are you kidding me? Are you in the least bit interested in survival rather than the latest in vacstreemist fashion? Is THAT worth more than food and money and holidays combined?
    Utter bullshit from top to bottom!
    The flu vac is bull shit because it works by blind luck and random coincidence, the lack of it is bollox because it doesn't go off and is made with 200 miles of you, the flu vac as a priority in no deal is complete lunacy, when you could have any medicine, any food, or anything at all instead (including things with a half life btw), and no deal is what you anted all along
    Do you people even deserve to continue existing? You say 'thick Irish cunts' all the time
    and you ARE projecting, because your mumbled and garbled football slurs on language it's self prove you can't even speak one language between the fking lot of you!
    And at a time when the PM has begged both EU and the queen instead of just following the referendum, result and telling both to FO?
    Your entire country must be the biggest MENTAL ASYLUM ON EARTH! What the fuck do you care if a flu vac gets delayed?
    YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TO WORRY ABOUT THAN 25% MAXIMUM EFFECTIVE BEAR REPELLANT! And so your red line, for UK is not food, or nurses starving, it is not the future of your children, nor the present of fit to work mass murder, it is not wisdom, nor strength, nor aesthetics, nor skill nor speed nor even bloodletting anymore
    you're happy with no food, you're happy being lied to, and you're happy knowing that you have condemned your progeny to destitution, you're happy with no food or prospect of a stable supply of nutrition, and you are happy with no medicine, you are happy turning your home into your prison for all time
    but what annoys you, is that you can't get some quack's snake oil to make a quarter at most of the people who get sick for 10-12 days to get this immunity to having a fking sneeze?
    WELL THERE GOES MY SYMPATHY ANYWAY! Even FOR a united Ireland, I'm not sure if enough people in uk are worth saving now to bother my fucking arse!

  • David Phillips
    David Phillips 3 months ago +2


  • happy Harry
    happy Harry 3 months ago

    Here we go the bbc it from the usa lol

  • midget porn
    midget porn 3 months ago +2

    Could, might, possibly, the most commonly used words in the BBC’s anti Brexit propaganda agenda.

    • Har Sanders
      Har Sanders 3 months ago

      midget porn Propaganda is brain washing etc. There’s only one side who does this, and it’s Mr Farage and co.

    • midget porn
      midget porn 3 months ago

      You are wrong, educate yourself

    • Har Sanders
      Har Sanders 3 months ago

      The use of these words makes it not propaganda. Propaganda is when saying something WILL happen.

  • son of anarchy
    son of anarchy 3 months ago +1

    BBC fake news hope after brexit they get rid of BBC and make it subscription pay

  • pafnucek
    pafnucek 3 months ago +1

    Good. Flu jabs are a scam anyways. I mean, they work, but against 2 or 3 strains of flue. Most of the infections are not even an influenza, but rhinovirus. And there are so many influenza strains that the the jab will protect you against about 10% of all the infections there are in the season. And for what? Just stay at home for a week and you will get better. I am not against vaccines. But vaccines against retroviruses is a dumb expensive idea. Better diet and wearing hospital masks and washing hands thoroughly is waay more effective than making every year a vaccine that will work only this year.

  • cannaseven
    cannaseven 3 months ago +3

    A small price to pay for freedom

    • Romano Canevari
      Romano Canevari 3 months ago

      I agree. Why are all those old Brexiteers living ON and ON and ON. Vaccine shortage will do the trick.

  • deeestuary
    deeestuary 3 months ago +6

    We’re doomed, doomed!!!!! Perhaps a few of us will survive by living in caves after Brexit.

    • Brendan Gavaghan
      Brendan Gavaghan 3 months ago

      Don't say that, I've just told a few vacstremists to fo back to licking cave walls because window's are too good for them!

  • Gabbe Gubbe
    Gabbe Gubbe 3 months ago

    bbc # bullshit broadcasting corporation 😂

  • Gabbe Gubbe
    Gabbe Gubbe 3 months ago

    bbc project fear 67.9 bullshit version 😉

  • populist revolt
    populist revolt 3 months ago +1

    More propoganda by the pedophile BBC

  • Pickle Onions
    Pickle Onions 3 months ago +2

    Funny the BBC hasn't commented on the growth of ant hills around the country caused by Brexit and that the eruption of vesuvius has been brought dangerously closer by no deal, still I expect they will catch up eventually.

  • weaverspell
    weaverspell 3 months ago +1


  • jon boy
    jon boy 3 months ago

    Project fear wheels still turning by the establishment and pedophile bbc

  • ||||upjidasoid
    ||||upjidasoid 3 months ago +2

    Is the team at Newsnight the official Opposition to Brexit. It’s like they constantly need reassuring how it can be stopped , begging Lefties to bring the Government down. Bias ......yeah not much.

  • Tom Round
    Tom Round 3 months ago +3

    Next on BBC list will be shortage of Cornish pasties due to brexit

    • Frank Veltz
      Frank Veltz 3 months ago

      You didn't really think that through did you...

  • Bill Whittaker
    Bill Whittaker 3 months ago +1

    The BBC’s full promotion of project fear in a vain attempt to stop Brexit against the will of the British people is totally disgusting and illegal in my opinion the BBC should be defunded and utterly destroyed.

  • tcfreestyler123x
    tcfreestyler123x 3 months ago +4

    I'm scared Boris will just make small adjustments to Mays deal, WTO is the only option now.

    • J K Harry
      J K Harry 3 months ago +2

      No deal is better than any deal

    • mathew lawton
      mathew lawton 3 months ago +2

      No deal better than a bad 1

  • AHL Anderson
    AHL Anderson 3 months ago +2

    What about MMR? Will a shortage of that cause the Autism from which the BBC suffers?

  • Matthew Brooker
    Matthew Brooker 3 months ago +1

    Is there no end to the dumbing down of Newsnight, it's dramatic journalists and journalism? Why don't you actually report on the marginal increase in the overall death rate caused by this lack of flu vaccine. Why? Because the overall increase is tiny and turns your manufactured drama into a non-story.

  • Mark Bickerton
    Mark Bickerton 3 months ago +6

    I'm sure the BBC will still be running project fear stories 10 years after we have left the EUSSR

  • hey whotsgoinon
    hey whotsgoinon 3 months ago +8

    Load of bollocks propaganda as usual.

    • hey whotsgoinon
      hey whotsgoinon 3 months ago

      @SpearMinti I agree with your point, but there have been a multitude of people who have been victims of informed opinion. Such as Iraq, libia. I am sick and fed up of being fed obvious bullshit from mainstream media just so it suits whatever agenda they may have. Innocent people have been killed and displaced from their countries due to informed opinion, and both conservative and labour govts are both implicit.

    • SpearMinti
      SpearMinti 3 months ago

      hey whotsgoinon and I don’t agree that the News shouldn’t have opinions, it’s important to hear other people’s opinions so we can debate them and form our own. Every interview ever about anything has featured opinions. We need to be able to think critically about them. What would be the point if the news just said “this is what happened today”? That’s not journalism. Having an opinion is not the same as being biased.

    • SpearMinti
      SpearMinti 3 months ago

      hey whotsgoinon No I’m not assuming that you’re a Brexiteer, I’m just pointing out flaws in what you’re saying. Lots of remainders use the same flaws. The fact is that we need to be able to rely on and have confidence in some predictions (and of course be able to think critically about others), as lots of government policy is based on predictions. Take the NHS for example - we’re constantly predicting how the population might change in 5/10 years, or how disease burdens may shift. We need to be able to build the right workforce for this. Or take economics - we can predict the impact of new technology (I.E Artificial Intelligence) and plan around it - either to encourage uptake or to mitigate against unwanted effects (I.e AI replacing jobs). Of course predictions aren’t ‘facts’, but some of them can still hold truth - especially if they’re based on sound evidence and are rooted in reality. All the evidence suggests that Brexit is going to be harmful for our economy, and if it’s harmful for the economy then the government will make less money in taxes. If it has less taxes, it’s going to spend less on the NHS, social care, education.... see where I’m going?
      Don’t mean any ill will at all fella, just trying to make my point. Hopefully one day we’ll all be a bit more united again.

    • hey whotsgoinon
      hey whotsgoinon 3 months ago

      @SpearMinti You are I take it , assuming I am a brexiter, and that you are an expert in all things political. My point is about a bbc news programme not containing news,but predictions, however informed they may be. When I seek to watch the news, I want facts not opinions. We can all have opinions about things. But without facts do our opinions have any validation. P.S. we had an informed opinion about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction.

    • SpearMinti
      SpearMinti 3 months ago

      hey whotsgoinon I can ASSURE you that leaving the EU and tanking our economy is not going to help make streets safer, good care for the vulnerable or a decent NHS... things are only going to get worse my friend.

  • Spencer Roberts
    Spencer Roberts 3 months ago +12

    OMFG they are trying everything now to stop brexit.😂😂😂,

    • midget porn
      midget porn 3 months ago

      @place pages Brexit was voted for by both sides of the political spectrum you simpleton.

    • place pages
      place pages 3 months ago +1

      Not gonna take much. Brexit won't happen. It's all bullshit to keep you morons voting for your right wing populist assclowns

  • Mr Echelon
    Mr Echelon 3 months ago +1

    Wow. Like this has never happened in our history....this happens every year.. what crap the bbc spout. Unbelievable

  • Eric Jarvie
    Eric Jarvie 3 months ago

    Nothing compared to the hell yet to be unleashed....ten percent on all imported EU food quotas rampant profiteering total business chaos rotting foodstuffs in both the dockside's...civil disobedience political infighting and plunging domestic incomes....its insane we need to act together put an stop to the madness. ..

  • Daniel Bostock
    Daniel Bostock 3 months ago

    Oh fuck off!!!!!

  • Bishop Walton
    Bishop Walton 3 months ago +12

    BBC - bias brexit co-operation.
    Flu has been around since.. Forever.
    Try harder BBC. Cant stand this scare mongering. So sad

    • Bishop Walton
      Bishop Walton 3 months ago

      @Har Sanders we will leave

    • Har Sanders
      Har Sanders 3 months ago +1

      Remember watching a before Brexit BBC TheXvid video that said the UK may leave the EU without a deal! Brexiteers commented just like you on this that this was ‘scare-mongering’. ‘Project fear’ soon becomes reality in Brexit land.

    • random sonic
      random sonic 3 months ago

      @Bishop Walton same to You

    • Bishop Walton
      Bishop Walton 3 months ago

      @random sonic i respect your opnion.

    • random sonic
      random sonic 3 months ago

      @Bishop Walton well you know my opinion on that

  • ben70542
    ben70542 3 months ago +5

    They’re a waste of time anyway. I’ve always refused them but in 2014 I agreed to have one and I caught the flu for the first time in my life.

    • ben70542
      ben70542 3 months ago

      @midget porn I agree with you because, come to think of it I'm not the only who doesn't seem to get the flu or colds. I come from a family of building workers and all the males are healthy and never get colds or flu, but the women always seem to be getting colds. They work in offices or shops or are full time housewives.
      Central heating seems to implicated in all sorts of respiratory complaints. Do the parmecutical companies do more harm than good? Nowadays yes.

    • midget porn
      midget porn 3 months ago

      That is a common story amongst people who have taken it. You will always be taking a shot created from a strain from the previous year, and because the strain will have mutated you will little defence against the new strain.
      The only people who benefit are the pharmaceutical corporations.

    • Frank Veltz
      Frank Veltz 3 months ago +1

      @ben70542 From the Centers for Disesae Control website
      "Recent studies show flu vaccine can reduce the risk of flu illness by between 40% and 60% among the overall population during seasons when most circulating flu viruses are well matched to the flu vaccine viruses"

    • ben70542
      ben70542 3 months ago

      @Frank Veltz As far as I know flu vaccines have become largely ineffective, Naturally it's unusual never to have had the flu, but the fact that the only time I ever had the flu was just after the only time I had the vaccine, does tend to make me rather suspicious. I would be interested to learn of any research which proves their effectiveness if you have the time.

    • Frank Veltz
      Frank Veltz 3 months ago

      So your anecdote trumps medical evidence does it?

  • blunty cunty
    blunty cunty 3 months ago +1

    1300 views rip bbc

    • Amanda Hughes
      Amanda Hughes 3 months ago

      @Simon T Thats right, trolling the BBC is one of lifes little pleasures, same with trolling The Guardian and CH4. Got to get a laugh some how, there's nothing decent on the telly.

  • Michael Hayes
    Michael Hayes 3 months ago +2

    So we will have no flights
    We can't fly in the flue drugs.
    Really we have 39 billion to play with
    This is bollocks

    • Brendan Gavaghan
      Brendan Gavaghan 3 months ago

      flu drugs? no, flu VACCINE very different, you get sick for 2 weeks, then you have at most a 1 in 4 of getting 'immune' to one particular variety, and you still might get the sniffles anyway lol, hardly a good use for human endeavor!
      and oh yea, that 25% botch of vac instead of food or medicine, or drugs or people or food did I mention? Yea, you don't give half a shit if you'll be able to eat next year
      AS LONG AS YOU ALL GET SICK FOR 2 WEEKS, AND MAYBE 1/4 OF YOU DON'T GET A RUNNY FUCKING NOSE! Yea that'll make brexit worth it, get the flu vac and no one will even be hungry ever again as well yea? Your priorities in UK are so fucked I can't even slag you anymore
      you're only going to take what I call an insult as a complement,
      oh, and in case you think I'm exaggerating about you?
      you didn't mention children, food, medicine or the future of the economy the union or your family
      your top 3 priorities are
      1 travel(to use these non vacs yea?)
      2 misnaming vacs as drugs, then wanting them
      3 bojo's bus (and I presume hospitals, since that was on the bus)
      ok? You sir, are a complete fucking moron!
      oh, and a drug is a chemical that has a direct effect, vacs fall far short of every word of the definition of either drug or medicine, and I didn't ask.
      so you let all the horror of the world pass for an ineffective jab for an ailment not even worth missing an hour of work for, that's only 25% effective at best, or 75% ineffective!

  • blunty cunty
    blunty cunty 3 months ago +5

    U must be a write mug to pay this lot 😂

    • Frank Veltz
      Frank Veltz 3 months ago +1

      A mug? Like some who uses 'write' when they mean 'right'?