10 Speedrunners Who Were Caught Cheating

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  • 10 Speedrunners Who Were Caught Cheating
    Todd Rogers Featured in WSJ: www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703988304575413612071687980
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    The 35-Year Record: Solving Atari Dragster: www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/6b60z3/the_35year_wr_solving_atari_2600_dragster/#bottom-comments
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    Todd Rogers Playing Dragster: thexvid.com/video/6WIxoVzevHk/video.html
    Todd's Fake 5.54 Post: atariage.com/forums/topic/34156-yes-broke-6-sec-on-dragster/page-2#entry483263
    Retro's Video on Cheating in Speedrunning: thexvid.com/video/gUplc7lDHZ8/video.html
    GothicLogic Exposes holymoly2207: docs.google.com/document/d/1rnNAlPztsCP5OLK4pBBuqLQIQnB990uP6oG8DWz1Yxs/edit
    holymoly2207's Spliced Run: thexvid.com/video/J0C_6-bjHk8/video.html
    One of TSA's Spliced Runs: thexvid.com/video/4rq2xdJWGLs/video.html
    TSA's Runs Removed From SDA (you can find his response here): forum.speeddemosarchive.com/post/weve_removed_tsas_runs_from_the_site.html
    One of TSA's Splices: thexvid.com/video/ZlzocshpIlI/video.html
    GoronGuy Admits His 5:19 Majora's Mask Run Was Faked: www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/2k3gww/goron_guy_admits_his_519_majoras_mask_100_run_was/
    GoronGuy's Response: pastebin.com/myDvrQ4H
    theifbug's paste has been deleted
    Henning's Spliced Frigate SA Run: thexvid.com/video/aQ7JUiY4xuM/video.html
    Henning Removed From The-Elite: Henning Blom has been removed from the Goldeneye Rankings
    RWhiteGoose: www.twitch.tv/rwhitegoose
    A Brief History of Cheating & Faked Speedruns in Goldeneye & Perfect Dark: thexvid.com/video/YWY6L7jPlM8/video.html
    "I would really prefer if you'd be quiet": thexvid.com/video/H50nqenYMDM/video.html
    Chibi Cheated Summary by YetiHype: thexvid.com/video/o1BBiPeDXM0/video.html
    YetiHype Answers Questions about Chibi: thexvid.com/video/e-893Q0V4gI/video.html
    FLYING's Fake GTA:SA Run: thexvid.com/video/EGaA-vWhWeE/video.html
    KZ Exposes FLYING: thexvid.com/video/FGMBvYK8jt8/video.html
    New Way of Detecting Splices in Super Meat Boy: www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/7fzq93/new_way_for_detecting_splices_in_super_meat_boy/
    Google Doc Made by SMB Mods: docs.google.com/document/d/1YWiHvjJf96LEz95BJFPmW7NZJxg-0awDCWgLoGrgK_U/edit
    exoSDA's Response: pastebin.com/2MjJ61zL
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  • Ay Guy
    Ay Guy 47 minutes ago

    you had to cheat to play devils advocate? lol

  • PluffPenguin
    PluffPenguin 5 hours ago

    speedrunners look like absolute no lifes

  • GMD aWildEmerald
    GMD aWildEmerald 5 hours ago

    *the ocarina of time mods are watching*

  • Omnomaly
    Omnomaly 8 hours ago

    The biggest lesson here is next time you try editing video or audio, actually know what you're doing lol

  • Ali Raheem
    Ali Raheem 9 hours ago

    11:20 How can cheating be an honest mistake?

  • Matthew Birchard
    Matthew Birchard 10 hours ago +2

    Did you really call the only person to give you an interview a “dirty cheater”? Wow. That’s low

  • Kevin
    Kevin 11 hours ago

    Nice intentional audio splice last sentence of video.

  • Tox鴆
    Tox鴆 13 hours ago +1

    It's not cheating if you don't get caught
    -Kujo Jotaro

  • evangaming405
    evangaming405 Day ago +3

    Jesus! Why do you need to cheat? I would be happy if i was in the top 1000...

  • Samuel Zuccati
    Samuel Zuccati Day ago +1

    lul, sheer strenght of will can just lower the best possible time on a video game

  • /Gameboy2000color /

    I swear to god I don’t give a crap about speedruns and catching cheaters YT! No offense to you, but YT has been recommending this video to me for 2 YEARS!!!

  • Mr. Crispy
    Mr. Crispy Day ago

    7:26 lol pp Xd!

  • Tony das Tit
    Tony das Tit Day ago

    *droopy the dog voice* Cheaters never win.

  • John Dorian
    John Dorian Day ago

    Seriously, why would anyone care about records for video games...... i'm sure 90% of the are faked.

    • J Squad Vlogs
      J Squad Vlogs Day ago

      John Dorian but their not most have videos

  • Phillip
    Phillip Day ago

    "An honest mistake" what? He didn't "Accidentally" stumble into using an action replay. He wasn't like "Oops? How did THAT happen?" he actively said, I want to cheat, this is how I am going to cheat, and then did it. I am sure he isn't a bad guy and that was a fuck up he learned from, but like, it wasn't an "honest mistake". (talking about Paper mario)

  • Ampherocious 84
    Ampherocious 84 Day ago

    Very close to 10 million views.

  • Koricthegreat washed up fighter

    The most epic cheat is to cheat, then have a video with 9 million views telling people you cheated and haven’t been caught yet.

  • Satoshi Ishota
    Satoshi Ishota Day ago +3

    i love how hard people find it to admit to their own wrongdoings

  • NekoSoren
    NekoSoren Day ago +2

    And I though my life achievements were non existent...
    also geez the speedrunner's community sure if good at uncovering this kind of fake stuff XD, it's awesome!

  • lobsterfork
    lobsterfork Day ago +1

    props to the guy who gets caught, owns up to it, and explains it on this video. That's a champ right there.

  • RuggedWalnut
    RuggedWalnut Day ago +3

    Jesus Christ.....speed runners who expose these cheaters are actually legitimate geniuses.

  • Mr Solo Dolo VI
    Mr Solo Dolo VI Day ago

    why encourage ppl to cheat at the end? wtf

  • George Ducady
    George Ducady Day ago

    GTA San Andreas in 4 hours...it took me several days...LoL I suck at playing video games but I still like to play anyway...

  • Christopher Cruz
    Christopher Cruz 2 days ago

    Gay

  • Raf M.
    Raf M. 2 days ago +13

    You are also cheating sir. The audio at 7:36 sounds different than the audio on 7:38. Good video though!

  • Ryzanify44
    Ryzanify44 2 days ago

    This sucks

  • ᅲᅧᅮᅮᅣ쳐ᅵᄆBunnicula

    2:04 dude... just stop, this is very sad.

  • vIrGiL
    vIrGiL 2 days ago +3

    "the stick is really sensitive"? 😂 what? 😂 😂 😂 😂

  • The PROcrastinator
    The PROcrastinator 2 days ago

    I think Todd Rogers is full of shit too, but you didn't want to see the checkerboard pattern on the time, when if you look, it is actually there. You CAN see it on parts. More than you can see it underneath the time anyway.

  • Ultradian
    Ultradian 2 days ago +1

    White goose still wants people to donate so he can buy 750K house.

  • CreepMcJack
    CreepMcJack 3 days ago

    Deppresion issues at 15 made him cheat a speedrun? Well for fuck sake, I was born with biopolar disorder, you don't see me cheat inn videogames or records........ First off, I am to lazy to speedrun, could probably do a OK time on spyro the dragon 100% wait sorry, I ment 120% gonna beaccurate on what the game say xD

  • rent a shill
    rent a shill 3 days ago +7

    when i see disabled comments on a video i instantly leave
    no matter how much i want to see the video

  • Terror
    Terror 4 days ago +4

    14:00 tbh I don't think that's so bad.
    You're still playing each level, not everyone is rich.
    It could a been BS, but you don't know that and cannot know that.
    16:00 also stop wasting peoples time.

  • I'm Thirsty
    I'm Thirsty 4 days ago

    I CheaTeD
    BuT I HaVe dePreSSiOn

  • metalperslfx
    metalperslfx 4 days ago

    wish i can speed run kindergarten up to college, took my damn sweet time i did.

  • wolfman4433
    wolfman4433 4 days ago

    ok so using glitches and exploits isn't considered cheating? Seriously? About or every speed runner does this in retro games! Play the game normal with no exploits or glitches. If you have very good knowledge about how to speed run that way then use it.

  • GrimRoses Light
    GrimRoses Light 4 days ago

    How the hell can people find all the little details on these games on speed runs. People really do have a good eye on these things.

  • Kinzsters172
    Kinzsters172 5 days ago +50

    "When I was 15 I started having depression issues"
    Yeah okay, but what tf does that have to do with cheating in a VIDEO GAME?

    • MarkyPaligs
      MarkyPaligs 2 days ago +2

      @Justin Hopkins That's pretty low.

    • Justin Hopkins
      Justin Hopkins 4 days ago +4

      Im not saying this to be an excuse of any kind. But i think it's a seek of congratulations of sorts

  • Weadark
    Weadark 5 days ago

    Lol "another dirty cheater but I have to thank him" that wording feels right, right?

  • fenafeses
    fenafeses 5 days ago +4

    Funny how you say on how they will be linked in the description when a playthru of the legend of Zelda is playing

  • jason criss
    jason criss 5 days ago

    Splice, Camera, Action !!!!!!!

  • D R
    D R 6 days ago +1

    Imagine being such an incel that you have to cheat to get a time in an arbitrary category for an old game (most likely decades old).

  • TurflamicGaming420
    TurflamicGaming420 6 days ago +2

    Dude I don't think this proves that the TSA guy was cheating. His situation with capture cards is understandable. I have been through a lot of capture difficulties over the years. I don't think that it proves he cheated. It doesn't prove he is legit either but I don't think it for sure proves he cheated.

    • Tompa A
      Tompa A 4 days ago +1

      It has been proven that he was cheating. The videos were spliced together because the game doesn't behave the way it should have had if it was a single segment. This is true for many of his various Zelda runs.

      Yes, sometimes you could have issues with the capture, that you can't capture it all in one go. The way you were supposed to do it was to simply pause the game, restart the capture/change VHS/DVD and continue the recording, while still in the game, which is part of SDA rules. Even in his The Wind Waker run, which was already segmented in shorter parts, the run was spliced together. Also in very short runs, like The Legend of Zelda, where the capture wouldn't have been a problem.

  • Christian Wade Eddington
    Christian Wade Eddington 6 days ago +111

    Imagine your biggest life achievement is a false time on Atari's Dragster. JESUS LMFAOOOOOO

    • zach
      zach 2 days ago +1

      @UnknownGamer40464 *liked*

    • High Overlord Snarffie Beagle
      High Overlord Snarffie Beagle 3 days ago +1

      @UnknownGamer40464 'click' noice

    • UnknownGamer40464
      UnknownGamer40464 3 days ago +5

      @High Overlord Snarffie Beagle I ate two gallon bags of sunflower seeds--shells included.
      The poop was far from amazing, and came after about 4 days of painful assbleeding constipation

    • High Overlord Snarffie Beagle
      High Overlord Snarffie Beagle 3 days ago +1

      my biggest life achievement is eating 2 large deep dish pizzas and 1 1/2 2 liters of Pepsi at one time,,,, the turd was amazing after............

  • gsboss
    gsboss 8 days ago

    what about the king of kongs guy? fuck him

  • Abomination05
    Abomination05 8 days ago

    Wow. The speedrunning community is brutal

    • rent a shill
      rent a shill 3 days ago

      when you take into account that people are literaly playing the same game for years
      to shave off few second of his run


      and then there are people who just photoshops the time and act superior to him
      i think they have murdering thoughts when they found out there are cheaters in speedruning community hhehehe

  • Bezzle Bedeviled
    Bezzle Bedeviled 8 days ago

    2:00 -- Rogers transformed from a reasonably handsome teenager into a stereotype of a greasy slimeball. A life of dishonesty while deeply immersed in Dunning-Kruger will do that. He couldn't have managed to look any more like a slimy used-car salesman.

  • LK Beasty
    LK Beasty 9 days ago

    Is this really that important

  • 悪魔レム
    悪魔レム 9 days ago

    that not just 10 that all people do the speed run

  • Anthony D
    Anthony D 9 days ago

    Wow seeing those clips of golden eye brings back memories, what a great game.

  • Patric____
    Patric____ 9 days ago

    That's insane. I didn't know about ExoSDA's run. I added him on Steam and even spoke to him when he was WR holder. I watched his run for motivation dozens of times. I did think it was crazy that for having the WR he never streamed, and I hardly saw him play SMB, he said he was taking a break from it to speedrun another game. That's unfortunate. I know someone has a much better time now.

  • KevinLG1990
    KevinLG1990 9 days ago

    Lol omg who gives a fuck haha

    • aldemar
      aldemar 5 days ago

      then why are you watching the video you fucking inverted thundercunt

    • Andrew Da fruit
      Andrew Da fruit 5 days ago +2

      Why are you here chad?

  • Thomas mihai
    Thomas mihai 10 days ago

    First world problems hahaha

  • Jack Frost
    Jack Frost 10 days ago

    WHO CARES?

  • Adrian Hernandez
    Adrian Hernandez 10 days ago

    The people who can detect these cheats should join the FBI honestly.

  • Ban Betrayed
    Ban Betrayed 10 days ago +6

    13:42 BOI i have a laptop and run super meat boy at 43 Fps

    • xjuice
      xjuice 4 days ago

      I have a Phone and run my games at 90 fps😎

  • I comment on stuff
    I comment on stuff 11 days ago

    Speedrunners need to use shortcuts and cheats to make a faster time lmao.

    • ImNotNuub
      ImNotNuub 9 days ago

      They use glitches not cheats,hacks, etc dumbass. And shortcuts arent cheating and thats why they use glitches to do shortcuts.

  • Brazen Eli
    Brazen Eli 11 days ago

    So you're saying that actually part of the reason why you made the fakes was because you wanted to like motivate people to like take action and like kinda make rules and stuff because they weren't gonna do that any other way so you had to kinda play devil's advocate and take drastic action? Where have I heard that before?

  • The Creeper King
    The Creeper King 11 days ago

    “And now I’m a verified cheater”
    Hahahaha I need that on a shirt in big bold letters

  • Rat
    Rat 11 days ago

    Number 11 Clint Stevens

  • yGLeviathan
    yGLeviathan 12 days ago

    dont pretty much all speedrunners use bugs anyways? and isnt that universally accepted? I dont get the speedrunning community

  • Carnage845 87
    Carnage845 87 12 days ago

    Eh cheating just isn't worth it. Just have fun with the game.

    • Carnage845 87
      Carnage845 87 12 days ago

      @OneFourFive you're entirely right. Just don't see the point in cheating at all.

    • OneFourFive
      OneFourFive 12 days ago

      Yeah, not an argument that will convince people that already want to cheat though. It is like saying stealing isn't worth it, you are taking away property that belongs to someone else.

  • Kyle W.
    Kyle W. 12 days ago +1

    I never believe anyone who says they were motivated by good reasons to do terrible things

  • Alexis Dominguez
    Alexis Dominguez 13 days ago

    Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies.

  • anonymous user
    anonymous user 13 days ago

    Who knew airport security did speedruns

  • bootles
    bootles 14 days ago

    This guy goose said he needed to cheat to force people to care enough to catch cheaters...are you serious?? You're gonna dirty your own rep in a community over something petty like that? Give me a break, he is talking so far out of his ass it's unbelievable

  • Shanka DaWanka
    Shanka DaWanka 14 days ago +13

    Out of all ten of these people, you called the one guy nice enough to give you an interview a "dirty cheater"? That seems unfair.

  • RichieGonzo
    RichieGonzo 14 days ago

    I've always wanted to get into speedrunning but never going to. I'd be way too tempted to pull some bs.

    • Matt Blank
      Matt Blank 12 days ago

      They probably just wana feel special. A cheater is a cheater but i can see why anyone without any specific skill would want to feel special at something once in there life.

  • L1GHT D3M0N
    L1GHT D3M0N 15 days ago

    Todd Rogers was dethroned a while ago and was banned from Twin Galaxies.

  • sandalssuck
    sandalssuck 15 days ago

    Fuck speedrunners! “Caught cheating”. WHO GIVES A SHIT?!?!??