When Your Sodium is Low

Lol

No way something like this got me laughing.... I started playing game when I was 7 and binged it til around lvl 300 and the amount of sodium chloride that gets into your brain just from one game is actually hilarious. You get off your computer after that one game and think to yourself "why was I so mad at them all? I don't get angry."

DAMN! You when there

"So true" as in "normal doctors don't understand how simple it really is to eat more salt" or "I agree, it's difficult to tell that you need more salt when your salt is low"? If it's the 2nd one, quit your job immediately.

But it’s easier and more profitable to just start doing random things until you find something that works

First thing I thought of was hyponatremia. Why didn't they ask about food and water intake? Patient is still concious.

Mine is dilutional hyponatremia - kidneys. Manageable as long as I'm mindful about fluid intake (LESS) and salt intake (more, but mostly CONSISTENT)

Wow yeah I have malabsorption due to my gastric bypass will I have this issue too I already have iron issues

Oh god. Salt taste sweet for me even if I eat alot

@Evan yes I did, thanks for noticing and telling me, I hope you're feeling better

@Camila Abril Argüello i literally said I was sick when that happened. It was the very first sentence in my comment. Maybe you skipped over it?

Omg, that explains why I feel a sweet flavor when I shouldn't! Thanks for that!

Yes I definitely agree here. I had this issue when I was pregnant with my twins I couldn’t keep my electrolytes up very well. Every time I needed more sodium I would start craving everything salty and it didn’t taste salty at all, but as soon as I was good it would be disgusting all of a sudden. Tasting so salty.
It still works now and I’m seven months postpartum.

@sejozwak Natrium?

@Enderman 1214 Language barrier I guess

@Enderman 1214 Isn't that Natrium

@sejozwak Na- Sodium in the periodic table…

Cup noodles for the win!! Haha

This is gold, for those that get it🤣

made me laugh, thanks for that.

@reese because being anal about only putting perfect food in your body is unhealthy, and my diet was otherwise healthy. There was also quite a bit of nutrition in those processed foods that I was having trouble getting in my blandish diet. Especially considering I struggle with anorexia, her telling me that was very helpful in getting me to eat something at all.
She also was not advocating non food items, like McDonald's or corn syrup, just items higher in sodium- like Ramen, Spam, pickled things, packaged broths, things you shouldn't feed someone with severely high blood pressure.

@J Wright yes. It has helped me significantly. In the summer or when I exert myself, I often have to turn to actual sodium pills, because I can't get enough salt from my food.

your doctor instructed you to eat processed and less nutritious foods?! why when that can lead to more health issues and the salt pills seemed to be helping

Did it actually help?

@J K might i ask why you need to still pay out of pocket if you have health insurance? What's the point of even having health insurance then?

@Bob Jamaica mine is about 18% you guys pay more?

@Chrono "...people inherently care more about themselves than the public as a whole..."
Yeah...? They should. That's not a big, it's a feature and government does absolutely nothing to change that. At all.
This is circular logic also. What exactly do you think a government is? It's just people.
This is your logic;
People are bad, therefore we need a government made up of people are bad, therefore we need a government made up of people are bad,...see?
People who support a system that necessarily grows in wealth and power by robbing and attacking peaceful people...are bad.

@Chrono you didn't ask how developed my ideology is. I'm a voluntarist. Lemme find some copypasta...
Voluntaryism is a very simple moral philosophy - it is the basic proposition that all human interaction should be voluntary and directly consensual. Voluntaryism rejects the initiation of force in all its various forms including physical violence, threats of violence, theft, kidnapping, slavery, rape, murder, etc. Unlike Pacifism however, Voluntaryism does not bar the victim of coercion from responding in a strictly self-defensive manner.
If we're to apply this philosophy consistently then we'll have to hold the people who call themselves "the government" to the same standards as anyone else. That standard is simply that voluntary human relations are the opposite of power relations, and that communities are best organized by voluntary relations. That is, relations among equals, and not between rulers and subjects. Voluntaryists are typically not fans of government in principle, nor do they think that the institution of coercive government is necessary. We recognize that there are two ways that people can relate to one another: voluntarily or coersively. Voluntaryists embrace the former and reject the latter.
Whether you're a voluntaryist, interested in learning about voluntaryism, and/or you value peace, freedom, and consent, we welcome you to these meetups and look forward to connecting with you on a variety of ideas!
I've been inspired and influenced by a number of philosophers, economists, and professors including Spooner, Mises, Rothbard, Rose, Locke, Molyneux, Murphy, and many others.
There is nothing that government pretends to provide(by first robbing people of course), that can not be provided by purely virtuous means(that means no theft). If there is, then it surely should not exist. Just like someone shouldn't own a Ferrari, if they have to steal money to acquire it.
I bought my best friend a fat textbook by Walter Block for Christmas called "THE PRIVATIZATION OF ROADS AND HIGHWAYS" because I was tired and embarrassed of him asking dumb statist questions like "but without government, who will build the roads?" as if not knowing something, and asking a question somehow constitutes an argument.
In reality, if you are genuinely interested in how things might operate in the absence of a state, you need only to literally Google that question and tons of stuff will come up. Mises.com covers virtually every "how would X be provided/function without a government?" scenario imaginable. Pick national defense, industry, roads, education, cops, etc. All have a quick rundown of how much the government absolutely sucks at providing that thing which you think only government can provide, and all have viable virtuous alternatives there waiting to be discovered by you.
Do you really think the justice system works now? Do you really think the government stops the super rich from being unaccountable, or do you think government helps the super rich be unaccountable? How many corporations rob you on a regular basis? How many businesses force you to be their customers?
But of course, government is the good guys and private businesses are the bad guys right?
You think government keeps private businesses honest, or do you think other competing businesses do a better job at that? Now who are the competitors for the state ran programs?
Maybe you haven't actually given this much thought.
Sorry if I sound annoyed. I'm chill. Promise.

@Sean Ryno Jesus dude, chill we could do without the edgy writing. I was just wondering how developed your ideology is.
Privatise everything the government does? Fuck, you want all of the shit the government does to be handled through private institutions which then the normal citizen can choose to support with his money, instead of being coherced to pay taxes?
I don't know where to begin listing what's wrong with that idea. Take military funding, are they supposed to get their money through... fundraising? charity?
Or what about public infrastructure! People inherently care more about themselves than the public as a whole, you'd be hardpressed to get any money for things that can't be charged for.
The administrative power in this system would shift from an elected government to the richest few of the population! Billionaire's would be in charge, with nothing to stop them!
What about the justice system too, how would laws work. If people don't want to pay for it, then it doesn't deserve to exist. The normal person would not even look in the direction of financing the justice system.
If these institutions are privatised, ALL the power is in the shareholder's hands. You think the ultra rich are powerful now, wait until regulations and enforcement have to answer to shareholders!
I understand the frustration with being taxed, or how sometimes we find flaws in stuff we can't find replacements for. I don't think you had given much thought to what was said. And please this is literally a TheXvid comments section I'm aware but calling people stupid or being like "what do you propose to happen instead of rape" just makes people not want to engage with your ideas. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt since you were prolly annoyed at the time of writing, though

Im a pharmacy technician at my inpatient hospital and anytime I watch the pharmacists talk at my job im like ✍😃

@Daniel M OH. bro my eyes must have stopped working. i read another entire thing.

@chemically calm no,your. you’re is you and are put together which doesn’t make sense in that context.

@NOT_A_ROBOT no? it's you're.

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But u live in canada and only pay $14.74 for the whole experience.

They did this to me, my salt pills were three for $75 I believe. That was a daily billing. I refused the morning one. So I don’t know whatever even happened to it.

@Woodshadow my girlfriend is still fighting over 10 dollars over treatment she didn't get 🤦

Im sorry, here we have public health the trauma really works, my father lose his finger in a rotative machine, and he get surgery for "free"(taxes are huge here haha) the same day, we have popular prices for medications too. But if you need a consultation, or a elective surgery like me, i need to repair my divided uterus, i waiting for the call to know the date of my medical consultation like 2 months now, and the surgery, you may wait like a whole year if you are lucky. But the emergency is really necessary. Its like really good dont need to think that you need to pay this amount of money in a urgent situation..

@Agsto Prds Lithium itself is a compound of salt. Therefore lithium carbonate contains salt much like potassium carbonate with their similarities and differences. No it does not cause Hypothyroidism and that is not what I said. I said I went in with hypothyroidism and the Lithium Carbonate worsened my condition. Hypothyroidism is an autoimmune response caused by a variety of factors either genetic or otherwise. As for putting any medications in a patients charts that's simple regulation in healthcare services for documentation. Such as documenting if a patient takes vitamin B12 or is diabetic. As for my medical education I am medically educated though I don't have a PhD I am a dental assistant. Both are in the medical field and are required to take into care the best interest of the patients needs and document their charts.

So Lithium is not a salt . Sodium chloride is salt. Yes, lithium can cause thyroid issues, but not exclusively hypothyroidism. Also, I am confused by the whole "I asked my doc to give me salt so that it's documented in my chart as to why my bp is low" thing - this just makes zero sense. Maybe try being more humble and less judgmental....? If you feel like you have to "educate" your doctors and nurses then why don't you just treat yourself? Oh right because you don't have the high-level education that they DO have.

Did your doctor refer to you as 'that smartass'... 😀

@J Fregia it's sometimes a hit or miss with medications like that 😭 Sorry you had to go through with it. That's why I discuss pros and cons of medications before I prescribe it to a patient

Yes the solution to sodium deficiency is, in fact, more sodium

The problem is that doctors get crap for going with the simplest solution too. I’m not saying that there’s not an issue with doctors in the medical field, but it feels like everytime the doctor goes with the easy solution they’re “cutting corners” or “just trying to get out of the room faster” and “don’t really care about the patient”. But when they’re thorough, they’re “wasting the patients money” and “overthinking everything”. There has to be some middle ground- wait, sorry, I’m on the internet. There is no middle ground.

@Cindy That's not how it works. Physicians focus on effectiveness. They aren't the problem.

That's not how things work in medicine. Hyponatremia for example is treated differently based on the volume status of the patient. Euvolemic and hypovolemic hyponatremia have entirely different approaches. Not everything can be reduced to a simple binary problem. Sometimes medicine isn't straightforward. I know every pre med who has watched an episode of a medical show like to talk about zebras and Occam's razor, modern medicine is pretty algorithmic. Go through the protocols and guidelines for each presentation and eventually you'll arrive at a solution. This can be annoying for something as notoriously troublesome as hyponatremia in an internal medicine ward, but it's what needs to be done. Sometimes you gotta go through 5 first line treatments and travel down the flowchart before arriving at seemingly the simple solution. For example, if you correct sodium at a rate faster than 10 mEq/L per day you can potentially give patients permanent brain damage.

Tell that to UK doctors😂😂 they will literally give you paracetamol for EVERYTHING and send you on your way home

@Cindy ahh but it's more likely that patient treatment models thag doctors follow, were made to treat the most of general population safely and effectively, cuz noone had the time, effort or money to create individual treatment models for 7.8 billion people. The doctor was prob just following the treatment model assigned for ur symptoms and was doin their thing. Human error or overcomlication was prob the most likely issue

@Iyan Wren how much would it cost for 90g of sodium chloride? (Table salt)

@Kelsey Bergen It was the most bitter thing I'd ever tasted at the time! The only reason I didn't spit it out is the pain was so bad I was willing to take anything to try and make it better. Couldn't help heaving though. I was very glad to take the pill instead.

@Panagiotis Tsampanis I read that as lactulose and thought “wtf that is messed up!!” Hahaha.

@tori

@VioletSkies that would be disgusting!! So bitter I bet

Gotta pay the bills somehow

@Hikary Chan low kidney absorption, too high water intake washing it out, too high sodium intake making your body reject it

Heh and they say there’s no culture here in America

I'll assume it's to make sure that it's safe?

It's funny caise in my country people complain the doctors try treating the symptoms instead of searching for the cause

@I stole your toe. c h e e s e

@MEGAMATTHEW75 r/woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh

@MEGAMATTHEW75 I'm not from usa, so just to see if I got it right, the doc did that for money?

@skyline it does not sound so sarcastic

That doctor just didn't want to make him fatter 🤣

@V J Yeah, working at a hospital I can tell you from experience that this is unfortunately quite common. Even among those doctors who do care about their patients, some can forget that their job isn't just medicine, it's also about people.
A good physician does not only treat their patients well, they also listen and make them feel understood.
Btw just so you know: A lot of people (including some doctors) think "stress" means that it's all in your head and you could just stop the symptoms if you wanted. That couldn't be further from the truth, stress is an unconcious and physical reaction. It can cause legit issues that require medical treatment.

@I Z Idk it often feels like I just don’t get taken seriously, and my symptoms are just written off as stress and I should see a therapist. It’s insulting and makes me feel gaslit.

A doctor should never listen to self diagnosis though. You have to do the testing because there could be a million issues causing those exact symptoms. They can't start any treatment until they know for sure or at least have something tangible to go off of.
They have to be able to justify their decisions to their superiors, the courts and other doctors too.

The entire convo was about making sure if there was or wasn't an underlying cause FIRST

@Brian Grant except it doesn't help when the low sodium is a symptom not a cause

@Patrick Rowland nah, unless there is an underlying problem, salt or msg will always help low sodium
and of course it'll come back. if i drink a bunch of water, then none for 3 days, of course I'll have low water levels.
artificially (actually naturally) increasing your salt intake with low sodium is the equivalent of drinking water when you're dehydrated.
Salt and MSG is pretty much the only way we get sodium, just as Citrus is the only way we get vitamin C.
I mean, why do you sometimes see animals licking rocks or drinking sea water; salt.

@1219monique lol yep no chance there's any other reason hey. Just like mucking around with people's health for funsies 🙃

@Dale Thomas oh yeah? Tell me more about how you have a chip on that shoulder. Lol

Oh yeah I am sure that was the case.

I play off people I usually try to treat my doctor's and nurses with respect but if they dumb just go yeah sure whatever and bounce pretty much

@Dale Thomas, as a first responder, I love the look on people faces when I start speaking with medical terminology mixed in. Got all the way to the last semester of a BSN program and left for law enforcement.

See I’m a physicist so everyone else is an idiot to me

@• RED87 • Right! I'm more shocked about the other prices. I guess I've been privileged on that aspect of life. My insurance is from my job. Me and my father have the same job so I've never seen such high prices before. 🙃

@Julia I 100%

@Unhinged Gamin 10 DOLLARS?! HOLY CRAP

@ZuRechtGefürchtet impossible

@Ad3l um no

lol you went there…then you became the powerhouse

@Celeste Pagano you're so lucky that you have a good doctor! I've been struggling to get doctors to acknowledge my conditions 😂 but hey that's Northern Irish healthcare for ya 🙄😂 hope you're doing well! 🥰🥰🥰

Seizure, no joke. 😞 Sorry you went thru that before finding an answer that works. Mine has never hit that point but my doc warns me.
I have a good doc.

@Samual Jager yup! Happened when I was diagnosed with diabetes insipidus (vasopressin insufficiency) after brain surgery! not fun lol

@Dwight pedialyte is healthier

@chaosawaits There have been sugar free Powerade/Gatorade/Energy drinks for 10+ years

@Grace Gaskell I’m not sure why they behave the way they do. God fucking forbid you correct someone on a piece of information these days. I try to have as much patience as I can with them, but there are times I reach my limit. It’s like they’re threatened that someone may actually know more on a particular fucking subject they themselves have no goddamn knowledge in. I had a few friends that were pre-med when I attended University. I was always interested in medical knowledge myself, so I’d read a fair bit on different sub-classes, but I couldn’t hold a candle to any of my friends that were actually in the program. However, like you stated before, we all had a sincere love for science and always loved it when another would ask us about something in particular that pertained to our field of study. We would finally get to “geek out” on shit that we didn’t get to in our everyday life. Now some people just look at it like we’re know-it-alls or snobby.
As far as Geological topics are concerned, I’ve had my fair share of run ins with climate change deniers. Trying to explain biogeochemical cycles to someone that doesn’t have a sincere interest in science in the first place, has never fucking worked. However, perhaps it’s my colorful language they don’t enjoy. I never enjoyed dealing with the public-especially in the Bible Belt of the U.S.. They see some video of someone that’s fucking famous and what they have to say on the subject and immediately believe they have more credibility than 99% of the goddamn population.

@Christopher D thank you, I appreciate that!
I just wish ppl would stop thinking I was saying 'experience BEING the doctor'! I'm not, that's WHY I bothered to specify that I'm not a doctor yet, but that doesn't mean I don't have a good amount of knowledge on relevant topics. Honestly, do these ppl not realise you need a baseline of knowledge in order to even get into med school? And apparently its being a know-it-all to tell someone something you know either through studying for the qualifications to get to where I want to be, (which I have) or just as a pass time for my own enjoyment.
Also, it's not just biology and chemistry I'm interested in - I'd love to hear about rock formations or climate change sometime if you'd like. Seriously, I enjoy being info-dumped to 🙂

@Grace Gaskell I am terribly sorry for some of the responses you received for even trying to shed some light onto a subject. I know that doesn’t mean much, but as I scientist myself, I understand what you were saying and what you were going for. Sometimes I wish someone would ask me questions about the science behind certain rock formations or climate change, but I also realize that I probably couldn’t relate the information in the best of terms. I just don’t have that particular skill set to relate information effectively to the general public….which is why I don’t fucking do it, as you could probably tell if you read my previous response.
Anywho, I sincerely appreciate your thoughts and hope you achieve your goal of being accepted and, hopefully, graduating from med school. It’s a goddamn shame the outlook some have on STEM programs and current students in those programs.

My doctor straight got flustered when he couldn't explain my x-ray results to me in layman's terms when I asked... Just repeated the exact phrase on the diagnostics paper over and over. 🤔

Watch out for the aluminum, cadmium, mercury and lead that can be found in pink salt.

@Amanda Croft okay thats a good one keeping that for later

@Amanda Croft check my later reply acknowledging my misreading of the comment in question.

@DynamicWorlds it's a joke, not a dick.. don't take it so hard ;)

@ghost there are two kinds of people in the world: those that can infer from incomplete data

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@Bllondiiie sorry for your loss, my condolences. Losing my grandmother was difficult. She was in such bad shape in the end that keeping her alive was causing so much suffering. Her heart was failing and was causing her lungs to fill with fluid. She was also on dialysis as she had her kidneys removed from cancer. Now I know she is at peace and is no longer suffering. It has been almost 4 years and I still miss her. Sometimes I dream about her and it makes me feel like she's still with me in a way.
She was so good to me, actually felt more like a second mother than a grandmother. She retired from a company that she had been working at for her entire adult life to help my mother care for me. She started me a retirement account when I was a baby. Honestly, I felt like she loved me before I was even born. She was very maternal and loved children. I have been so lucky to have been born to her daughter. I loved and appreciated her since I can remember but now looking back I wish I would have done more, spent more time with her, did more things for her... because when you lose someone special like that, you are left with a deep void in your heart. I will never find anyone else in this world again that loved me as much as she did, and that makes me realize what a loss I have experienced. But I am so truly grateful that I got to have her in my life to shape me into the person I am today. Enjoy your loved ones. Spend as much time with them as you can! Take lots of pictures, trade books, go painting, or even just watch Wheel of Fortune together at home on the couch. Lol! Elderly people just want to spend time with their family. I feel like the older generations appreciate personal time more than anything else. They just want your presence and sometimes a little conversation.
So... As far as the sodium chloride pills...
would he have not had any improvement if he tried to increase his salt intake through his diet? I mean, he could have just started cooking with soy sauce. 🤣
That conversation felt so cringy. 😂

@Bllondie I'll take that seriously, thank you. I hope you have peace about your loss🙂

Spend as much time as you can with her, lost mine Thursday. She had low sodium and other problems, she ended up having a seizure a year ago from low sodium and started having slight dementia, I’m not trying to scare you just don’t want anything to go untreated / un watched.

IKR 😭😭 I STAN WHOLESOME INTERACTIONS EVEN IF THEY ARE STAGED 🤬

Yea cuz he isnt salty

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Hard pass. So far knock on wood. I've been lucky that cooking in my cast iron skillet has been enough because iron pills and I do not get along.

So, apparently a bot copied your comment (only 100 or so likes) but it was like the fourth one I saw and I was going to like it until I realized it was a bot. So I had to scroll furiously through these comments to find the original so I could like the proper one. Work done. 😊

Yep

No it’s more complicated. The I’ve made my sodium drop even more. It’s something called SIADH. Usually due to another underlying problem or could be medication.

That's normally how these skits go. It was refreshing to see something different.

I think watching a couple Chubbyemu videos would make it make sense. Half the videos are something like "A boy drank laxatives and glued his anus shut, this is what happened to his kidneys" or something along those lines.

Great answer, spot on! It’s not easy and sometimes you have to try a couple of things before giving sodium chloride

Just lookup the studies..

@Heather G Ballew wow, 3,000 words and none of them even slightly coherent. Have you tried philosophy?

I always find with hyponatraemia that it takes me 48 hours to work out the cause, by which time it resolves on its own.

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