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In the end, the older baker says "You can't have people doing this"...and do I understand him, my back is unable to do the kneading, I would end up in bed...but, interesting enough, you see today a lot of people going back to do bread this way and it isn't just a couple of loafs...it's heavy work and bless them for taking it up...I almost stopped eating bread, the bread they sell where I live, every single bakery, should be considered a defiling of a sacred food and those people presented to a symbolic court...the sentence just a sad look in the jury's face...
I'm just wondering when did the word 'faggot' became such a demeaning word for gay people? How did that develop when the literal meaning of that word is so harmless? Wondering as a bisexual person btw.
I really love making my own bread from scratch but I often struggle with the loaf tasting too much of yeast. And when I try to reduce the amount of yeast it doesn't rise and gets too dense to eat. It's a struggle lol
I'd love to see Victorian Kitchen on TheXvid as well, can't forget Mrs. Beaton's Recipe book.
I'm lucky in the south of France to have a baker that makes great bread in an old wood-burning oven facebook.com/boulangeriedesrevesetdupain/, completely understand peoples reaction when they taste proper bread
At least Alex saw Ruth using a Victorian oven in Victorian Farm series.
one of the bakers looks like fucking wolverine
The normal breakfast back then was bread and beer. Light ale not much alcohol but around 2pm they'd actually have what we call breakfast. A real sized meal.
The women seems more like a peasant helper than a bakers or even pastry maker ( she is no chef!)
there were indians in victorian britain lmao bbc pushing its liberal globalist propaganda
In 1837 there was nothing electricity kneeder it was very hard for the bakers
These documentaries make me really emotional. Love these sort of experimental archeology shows. It shows real life and the hardships not only the romanticized ideas and the accomplishments of the rich and famous.
Me too. I'm so tempted to build a bread oven in my back yard but I'm not sure my city would allow it.
thanx bbc for the smart content omg .... now history channel is pawn shop all the day 24/7
I freaking love bread !!!!! 😍😍😍 oh gosh I wish I could eat buckets and buckets of it !
Very interesting, some people make some really stupid comments, one wants to know why they didn't use porridge instead of bread, don't you know any thing about history? I can guess which country you come from.
It wasn't a comment, it was a question...do you have the answer ?...by the way, which country were you thinking of, since there are more than 200 ?-))
Not all the viewers here are from Europe or USA, of course they don't know about it due to cultural difference. That's exactly why people are watching this documentary: they want to LEARN about it. Stop acting like you're the smarter person in here just because you know one thing or two that they don't, it's embarrassing.
I like all of them, but the older John really looks the part of an 1830s country baker with these mutton chops and spectacles and the apron over his belly. Good casting!
When I was growing up, my mom always made bread from scratch and even ground her own wheat. She also has made bread with a yeast "starter" for many years - she keeps it in the fridge and has to "feed" it every few days. I don't know why the people in this show, who are professional bakers, don't seem to know about that stuff. It's not a totally unknown method of making bread even today. The one guy with the artisan bakery seemed to know about it but not the other ones, especially the woman who only makes cupcakes. You'd think even if she doesn't make bread in her bakery, she'd be more knowledgeable about it if it's her trade in general.
Specialization, I guess. A lot of people who knit couldn't tell you anything about sheep or spinning wheels.
The brunette guy looks like Hugh Jackman if he became a baker
Better without the annoying old guy. Let's cool down the oven! Ooh, I can't carry that. Blech.
Oh my god, the cupcake lady is so annoying. Stop interjecting your negativity and ignorance of the trade every 2 minutes!
This hit me hard. Unexpectedly sad.
Great aunt Harriet looks like a tough cookie. I always wondered what the expression "as you brew, so must you bake" meant. And now I know.
Young Wolverine baking.
6000 calories a day. I bet. People actually worked their asses off back then instead of sitting around in offices getting fat. There are still tons of guys that work hard of course but that is still a lot of bread. lol
What;s with the asian/jewess?????
IT HAS NO BUSINESS REPRESENTING WHITE HISTORY, END THE RACE MIXING BBC,
EUROPE IS WHITE. KICK ALL MUDS BACK TO THEIR S**THOLES
What's with racists...?
I can't believe they wouldn't have sieved the yeast from the brew through cloth of some sort.
I was speaking of the real bakers in Victorian times (and all bakers before modern methods).
Lark Bird it's a learning process but all of them are bakers so I guess u have a point they should have thought of that.
Completely off subject, I happen to enjoy listening to different accents, and I notice the woman historian in this video uses a long "A" often in place of a long "O," phonetically speaking. In other words, instead of "loaf," she says "lafe." "A lafe of bread." That's what it sounds like to me, anyway. I have heard this accent before, but don't know what it is called.
The bakers with the Victorian costumes and the hosts using the modern clothes really annoying. Why?
yarixza mendoza agree
Riza hariati it is right? they should have gotten with the program and worn Victorian era clothes too it's a little distracting to me.
What I hate about America is that the bread is crap, to get good authenticartesian bread like in Europe, I'd have to drive 25 miles round trip.
Why don't those people go for porridge instead of bread?
Mikhail Cheung I believe they kept that for kids..and it's no wonder that most kids then, in you look at pictures of 1880s kids, look thin and small for their age. They don't have the required fruit, veggies, grain and dairy to grow properly or to stay regular. I can go buy vitamins and supplement at the store.
I don't know about ground oats, etc., but whole grains and seeds would have been more nutritious and cheaper. You know those mummies they found in bogs? They had a porridge of local seeds and grains in their stomachs. In the Mayor of Casterbridge, frumenty, which was made of boiled, cracked wheat, was dished up at the fair. However, you have to have a home to store things like that, and land to gather it from. Culturally, almost everyone had moved towards the more portable bread by the 19th century.
Mikhail Cheung maybe they couldn't afford it. tough times during those days.
Sould they be punished by The Assize of Bread and Ale?
Ok British history lovers out there. Can we PLEASE get the BBC to issue these wonderful documentaries in DVD format for us poor Americans? They are all so excellent and informative. There are those of us in the USA starved for intelligent viewing material.
Wait....where's Ruth and Peter?
This is why I say bread does not make you overweight! It is total lifestyle! Most of our parents grew up eating biscuits or rolls everyday but they didn't drive everywhere. They walked and walked and walked....
Backwards approach. Modern baking has left historical baking by changing the approach to dough. No-knead baking is an option to reduce man-hours while achieving proper structure. Today's baker's yeast is actually brewer's yeast. Baking with liquid yeast (as it's called in the brewing industry) is done all the time. It is indeed possible to start and keep a poolish (that sponge) from brewer's yeast for a week. They just didn't know how to do it. It's a bit odd that these "professional bakers" are surprised how all of this gels. They have little craft experience. At 18:00 I doubt that would be done daily. The mention of long fermentation, is indeed the key.
It's like Ye olde masterchef
not only where they done but also ugly......
I have so enjoyed watching this..as I'm hoping to open a bakery myself here in the states..the Harvest Party is so like our Thanksgiving..no doubt it's roots come from the settlers own celebrations in their home land..Thanks for making such a Fabulous Documentary.
That pastry-chef chick is _actually_ and _literally_ very annoying.
she is specialised in cake and pastry while others are more toward bread
yarixza mendoza everyone has to start somewhere. she is a pastry chef. The other guys are artisan bakery owners, supervisors and working directly in the process of breadmaking. Duh..
That's what I was thinking.
AeroDoe she is actually. it seems like she doesn't know much as the other guys.
WHY IS SHE ANNOYING?? SILLY COMMENT
Why were they so dependent on bakers? Why didn't they just make their own bread?
Lots of the little cottages that workers lived in then were practically medieval and only had a couple of rooms and no dedicated kitchen. They could make porridge and stew at home at the fireplace, but as you can see, bread took time and skill and a real oven. In some villages, people took their turns with their own loaves at a communal oven, but bakeries have been a thing since the ancient Egyptians or earlier. And fast food has been around that long too. People have been able to buy bread and a sausage or a kebob or a dumpling on the street since the first cities.
The thing which most people probably underestimate, is the usefulness of corsets for the work of women. They have the same effect as that "leather belt" which weight lifters wear in their sports competitions in preventing strain on the back muscles, so women could lift more than without it due to that stabilizing effect.
"To be a woman in this age makes me feel a little bit like a caged bird." ... Typical feminist way of thinking, because THE MEN DIDNT FARE ANY BETTER!
Billi Jo Maynard exactly.
Men did not fare any better you are correct about that but in the real Victorian age she would not have been allowed to work in a bakery unless she owned it or her husband or father owned it and allowed it. Women had very few job choices in Victorian Britain and the job choices they did have were generally excluded for single or divorced women. A married woman could work in a manor house as a maid, work on a farm if she were a farm wife, but the money she earned was never hers, it belonged to her husband. A single woman who either refused to marry, or was divorced by her husband was considered taboo and unatural, most of these women either wound up in the Workhouse (Britains attempt at state welfare at the time or homeless and working as a prostitute because it was the only choice she had to feed herself. And women had very few legal rights in Victorian Britain, in fact they were not even considered persons under the law but property of their father, then their husband. They could not testify in court, any money, land, estates, etc they had or that was left to them by their father become the property of her husband the moment she married him. If he dirvorced her she had no recourse to get it back, she had no legal right to her children. Men did have a hard life no doubt about that, They could not vote unless they were land owners, which the majority of men were not and women had no right to vote whether they were land owners or not but men did have far more job choices than women did and far more rights than women did.
Muck006 you maybe need to focus less on feminist conspiracies and more on basic comprehension,you are stupid!READ AGAIN FOOL !!!
+sal mineo The point is ALL OF THEM were treated badly, so there is no point in singling out any of the sexes, but feminists only want to focus on how hard a life women had ... which is stupid and shows their own agenda of turning it into a "war of the sexes".
Muck006 I agree with what u said not only the women had labor intensive work it was also the Men too. it was hard work and a hard life for all working people during that time not just woman.
Thank you Brits for your fascination with history! :)
Not to mention BBC's great documentaries.
Kaarli Makela I second that!
Probably shouldn't have poured water in the oven...one of the younger bakers said it was not too hot and the older guy just continued on...take it out of his wages!!
My family has an heirloom cookbook from the 1880s that only refers to a "fast, slow or moderate" oven. Since my mom grew up with wood stoves, she taught me that a "fast" oven was hot, for bread, and a "slow" oven was for roasts, and a "moderate" oven was for cakes. To tell the difference, you'd put in a pan with a handful of flour and time how quick it took to brown. After a while, you'd just have a feel for it.
I now know why bread is known as the staff of life...and also understand why when crops failed...famine would be next...we forget how precarious life was...6,000 calories a day.. no wonder nothing went to waste...even pot liquor...every scrap was used...wow!! excellent show!!
Yes, I so agree!
It's so tragic to me that a baker would be surprised by the fact that yeast is a living thing. We've completely lost touch with natural processes by industrializing everything.
Exactly. If you don't know how your tools work, you are probably not very good at what you do.
FoodandFaithfulness Very surprised! The difference between going to school and learning as you go.
she is specialised in cake and pastry which was later modified from bread tho. the others are more toward bread. you can see the chapter when cake was invented by adding some sugar, eggs, etc. in household bread recipe she was done that part alone.
To be honest I'm not sure why they included this woman at all. She proved to be pretty useless, and dense with it. Otherwise a good team.
This amazes me, as a home baker, I now want to go to the local breweries to get some yeast. Wonder if they do that?
check out a home brewer supply store, they probably have different yeast strains!
Great program, but I kept hearing chicken feet...😄
why was that wooden box for mixing so low ? at that height, it would have caused back problems.
Imagine the amount of solid wooden legs you would have to add to make it higher AND watch the next episode to see the "dual purpose" of it AND people were shorter back then (especially the women and probably even children) AND ... who cared about health and safety in 1840?I can feel their pain ... every time I do the dishes in my sink, because their height is far too low for "average male height" too.
6000 calories a day !!! I can only dream...
anastasia46 well ya they weren't on their assess all day like people now a days. they were true hard working ppl, not that there aren't any today but almost everyone had to in that time.
Gosh ... a lot of nonsense about the "overromaticising" after they failed once BECAUSE THEY DIDNT KNOW HOW! That kind of knowledge would be "second nature" to bakers in victorian times, because they were doing it every day and the next generation grew up with it.
I miss Ruth Goodman and her humour in this kind of documentary.....Ruth wouldve had that heated oven cleaned and ready for loaves in minutes......
You realize that Judaism is a religion? Even you can convert......
Good White Woman saying NO to jew promoted destruction of European Race. England is not America. We are a 100% Whites Homeland.
wow - if we had never seen a russian misery-bot, we certainly have now, eh
Must be changed to the Age of EJECTING THE JEW MARXIST AND HIS GENOCIDAL CULT. Actually.
You are Shite, THIS today, is the age of posting Shite and erasing Internet History to hide your own superiority complex like other nitwits and asshats
32:25 As an American, it's interesting hearing about the modern health and safety regulations in the UK, which as far as I'm aware, don't exist in this country. I've worked jobs where if you could lift it, you did, regardless of weight. The limiting factor here as far as I'm aware is human potential, not regulations to ease their burdens.I'm bigger and stronger than most people I see in these sort of shows though, so I perhaps have a different perspective in general. I worked one job 15 years ago or so when I was an older teenager which entailed things like stacking 100+ pound boxes 8 feet up in the air while unloading goods from semi trucks.I have heard of there being weight guidelines in larger operations such as UPS though.
WR3ND it's regulated in Canada. Workers Compensation Board Regulating. For example one can only lift 20 kilos.
The thing is that there are loads which can cause health issues if you lift them regularly. There was a "documentary" about a reporter who disguised himself as a factory worker and got to work for an agency for temporary work and he got to work for Mercedes in their main factory at Stuttgart. His job was lifting 12 kg motor blocks and package them the whole day. He got back ache, but since he was employed by the agency he couldnt go to the doctor at the factory ... and he also got paid only a third of a "real Mercedes employee" doing the same job.tl;dr12 kg isnt that heavy to lift, BUT if you do it all day you can still hurt yourself and with more weight that chance increases.
Amazing that they ate so much bread back then! And so little of anything else... how did they get their nutrition? Very interesting show!
Im Canadian and find that hard to believe. Where in Canada did she move to? We have a huge french population so bread variety is pretty big here. Any grocery store almost always has a bakery section at least 1/5 the size of the whole store.
comm744 -- You forgot onions and cabbage. Old fashioned whole wheat flour is nutritious because it contains protein, vitamins in the wheat germ (the bit that sprouts) and fibre in the bran (the golden inner brown coat of the seed). Modern flour lacks the germ and the bran. People burned off a lot of calories at manual labour so an adult could might eat a whole two-pound loaf -- about 2400 calories with about a hundred grams of protein -- if that's all he had. But there was usually some form of soup with vegetables in season and scraps of meat, plus cheese and fruit in season. And beer, which had a lot more body to it than now. So a two pound loaf might feed a family for a day. Children often got a bowl of crumbled bread with milk or the whey from cheesemaking poured over it. It's actually tastier than you'd think.
R.D. Dragon Beer Bread and Meat. The basic diet for centuries.
R.D. Dragon My mom told me when her family moved to Canada in 1970 the only bread available was white bread and rolls no nutrition. Now, she learned that white flour breads lack fibre and my kids struggled to have regular BM so now we went from Whole Wheat, to Specific Whole Grain with Fibre. I don't know how people got their fibre in those days. When my daughter was toilet training the constipation and poop issue was the worse. Now we have powdered Laxative to help with people who struggle along with a diet with fruit and fibre.
Well as they say, give a man grain and water and he can live for a month, but teach him to make bread, and he can live forever. Bread just contains so many nutrients that we can sustain on it.
Ooh, Alex Langlands, promoted to narrator! What a comforting voice. :)
Ohhhhh, Alex is back :)
My grandfather and his before him were bakers in England and my uncle took over the bakery from my grandfather. I worked at the bakery when I was at school in England. It was called the Tudor Bakery in Old Coulsdon near Croyden. Still there I think. Amazing smell and they did it pretty much all by hand. He always used wet yeast too but it came in blocks and not in buckets. He never used dry. Made a huge difference in the taste and quality.
The chicken feed nuggets was really sad. The Caraway seed cake looked interesting.
same here, I always thought that it was the job of the monarch to feed her people, if they were starving he/she should go without and feed the subjects
Alex is back! Great to see him again!
love these sort of documentaries!
I love these back in time reality, but not really docs They are so relaxing to watch, no hyperactive camera work and music