AMD, Why Would You Release THIS?! Why?

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Comments • 3 002

  • Megumin Arch Wizard
    Megumin Arch Wizard 6 hours ago

    People think AMD is only ever good when their cards don't cost as much as Nvidia. AMD would've gone bankrupt ages ago if they followed that rule.

  • James Mastroianni
    James Mastroianni 9 hours ago

    because of people like you we will never see competition from AMD. All you want, like most, is AMD to make a good gpu to bring down the price of Nvidia gpu's. You'd never actually consider putting an AMD card in your system. And before you say "well 10 years ago I had an entry level AMD blah" yea it's called you didnt have the money for that precious Nvidia card yet.

  • Robert Perry
    Robert Perry 12 hours ago

    Just sat here waiting for Sapphire Rapids, Xeons to drop from Intel next year or year after. 7nm FTW.

  • Robert Perry
    Robert Perry 13 hours ago

    If you want shiny graphics use RT cores and buy an RTX card, if you want RAW compute power buy 7nm AMD.

  • Zerviscos
    Zerviscos 16 hours ago

    Really? You actually think Radeon VII is a bad card? Mate, RTX right now is shit because it's still niche. No one said it was technically a downstep from advancement, it's just that for consumers currently, it's not the right choice. Everyone knows the only people who'll buy RTX cards above the 2070 line are early adopters, because Ray-tracing is still in it's early stages and DLSS is still rare. There's literally no real-world value with RTX. Sure overtime, we'll see it more and more, and we'll see more cheaper cards, but ofc, it's not now. We have to wait another 2~4 years just for another release of cards, and with Nvidia literally raising prices for their cards per generation, it's getting harder and harder to justify the price. AMD is trying to compete, and with their more mainstream cards, for mainstream consumers. People who keep defending Ray-tracing can't even justify it's existence. It's only justified when the price is not gonna cost more than your entire system combined minus your GPU. You can't justify Ray-tracing and DLSS when it still doesn't exist. Seriously, why defend RTX/DLSS over HBM? My fucken sides.
    If you're gonna say something like "We buy RTX cards for mainstream RT in the future". Are you literally shitting me with future-proofing? Mates, the moment ray-tracing becomes mainstream is the moment first-gen RTX cards become near-obsolete and worth $100 or less. This is a tech trend, when something new is out, it's always gonna be clunky and expensive, until we eventually smooth out the edges and make manufacturing cheaper.
    Not everyone has the money to buy premium GPUs, that's why during Maxwell's era, the 970 was the most used GPU, because it was the sweet spot for mainstream 1080p. Thing is, as a consumer, you expect per generational release, you get better performance for around the same price you paid last gen. Not same performance for more or less the same price.
    Radeon VII just did three things RTX didn't.
    1. A card that doesn't rely on currently niche tech for it's premium price.
    2. HBM that actually justifies it's premium price and for people like who also want to use their PC as a workstation.
    3. It's cheaper, and expect the lower-end cards to be as well.
    We're literally looking at a Titan-like card for consumers.

  • ChiefsChiLLaXN
    ChiefsChiLLaXN Day ago

    it doesn't use gddr6 because you cannot get 1 terabyte of bandwidth without high bandwidth memory 2.

  • ClaussPhoto
    ClaussPhoto Day ago

    I have no interest in gaming, just content creating. I was looking at picking up the 9100 Pro with an eGPU box for my laptop, but will the 7 be close in performance? It's actually a bargain at $700 vs. $1350 for the Pro 9100.

  • Stefan Stössel
    Stefan Stössel Day ago

    I will buy it that‘s why.

  • unknown D
    unknown D Day ago

    Just deslike this vid.

  • link375
    link375 Day ago

    Nvidia fangayboy. Doesn't know shit about Hardware engineering. Doesn't like competition Nvidia fanboys are the same as apple fanboys. Apple increases price of the same hardware by $100. and they love it. Nvidia does the same shit and they love it. No innovation... RTX has additional features like undertested hardware and overheating issues. YAY for RRoD of Nvidia.

  • Filyx20
    Filyx20 Day ago

    having a gpu with vulkan first in mind is a dream for any linux user. Will have to choose between this or navi for a upgrade

  • Tj Smithson
    Tj Smithson 2 days ago

    What other company actually runs a cinebench live on stage?

  • Tj Smithson
    Tj Smithson 2 days ago

    That extra hbm ram will be great for dolphin emulation with custom textures

  • Steve Sherman
    Steve Sherman 2 days ago

    Uh, they released a refresh of Vega which is not for gaming hence the HBM2. These are meant for data center and anyone that just has to have an AMD graphics card and wants the best they can afford regardless of performance and TDP.

    • Steve Sherman
      Steve Sherman 2 days ago

      +UFD Tech Ok maybe not data center, but definitely scientific research and AI. They are only planning an initial run of 5000 units. The HBM2 is clearly a huge benefit for compute performance and aimed at a niche market.

    • UFD Tech
      UFD Tech  2 days ago

      Yeah, they’re not meant for data center. Wholly marketed towards gamers and have no FP64 capabilities. This isn’t a professional card as much as you might think it is.

  • Mohammad Was A PEDOPHILE

    Radeon7,does not have enough ROPS. 16Gb ram? These are obviously Failed samples of Pro Cards (M60/M50) that could NOT Meet Pro validation, and are now being rebranded for sale to gamers,as a place holder to keep AMD name in the news. Leaks,and official specs make this crystal clear.AMD CPU's? Very exciting!

  • MyNegativeCreep
    MyNegativeCreep 2 days ago +1

    You made me rethink of getting this too early. Maybe I should rather wait for a price drop. I was too hyped lol

  • Too Late Nate
    Too Late Nate 2 days ago

    It looks like they probably spent most of their time with Navi on APU solutions and the game consoles to stay ahead of the game. Letting their more dedicated PC graphics fall by the wayside. I'm *kinda* okay with this, but not really. I understand they don't want to hemorrhage money, but if they don't drag that pricing down, they're not gonna sell a lot of these GPU's.

  • Kai Draven
    Kai Draven 2 days ago

    when "tech" tubers reveal they are gaming tubers and don't understand the products that the're reviewing

  • TommyThousandFaces
    TommyThousandFaces 2 days ago

    I don't get this review of what products AMD launched. They're getting up there on the CPU side and they're surely planning a move to even surpass Intel with their modular architecture, they improved a GPU and showed a product that might not be an incredible value but can surely compete and it's not crippled in FP performance like Nvidia gaming cards, they're going to launch a *64 cores* CPU that will obliterate the server market (AMD Epyc and Intel Xeons run at similar clockspeeds) but it's not enough. Being over excited would be too much, but being so critical is still something I don't get.

  • Mr J
    Mr J 2 days ago

    So basically your saying that the Radeon 7 is a poor man's 2080!!! The 2080 has rtx yes, but that tanks performance and FPS when enabled...

  • Aiden McGeehan
    Aiden McGeehan 2 days ago

    I think we'll have to wait until Radeon 7 turns into 5, or 6 and that would give Nvidia a run for their money hopefully

  • Milan Svitek
    Milan Svitek 2 days ago

    I honestly wouldn't mind Polaris on 7nm ... Radeon-7 is a bit of a disappointment. :(

  • Kenjionigod
    Kenjionigod 3 days ago

    RTX is simply not ready for primetime. It's cool, but until it doesn't drop frames by half I don't care. And why do people always bring up deep learning super sampling, but it's still just super sampling at the end of the day and is nothing special. Radeon VII is totally fair competing with the 2080 in price, as long as it doesn't just outright lose most benches overall. Plus Vega is a beast in content creation, which as legitimate value for people that game and work on a single machine, and offer a lot more value than ray tracing.

  • Michael Eber
    Michael Eber 3 days ago

    Were we watching the same speech? The large presentation on Ryzen 3 was great. The chip design is demonstrating an expanding use and development of the fabric network. Also the announcement of a commitment to the AM4 chip socket for the next few years means I can use at least 2 generations before I replace my motherboard. Finally you seem to just parrot what many others have said with the first being Pauls Hardware. And it was obvious to quite a few they had to come out with something on the graphic side and this card was it. But if the numbers shown are for the current architecture....you have to wonder what the numbers will be for Navi??!!!

  • FAKE NEWS, FAKE FOOD, FAKE WORLD

    The point is AMD 7nm vs NVIDIA 12 nm, We all know RTX 2080 Hit's 225 watts of power. I can't find how much the Radeon 7 pulls but I don't think it's less then 225 watts. Even if they tie the RTX2080 if the die sucks to much power then what's the point of die shrink? NVIDIA still in the win and I hate it. I want my 4 gigs on my gtx970 card.

    • FAKE NEWS, FAKE FOOD, FAKE WORLD
      FAKE NEWS, FAKE FOOD, FAKE WORLD 3 days ago

      Only thing NVIDIA would need to do would be a die shrink and move to HBM memory and a clock boost.

    • FAKE NEWS, FAKE FOOD, FAKE WORLD
      FAKE NEWS, FAKE FOOD, FAKE WORLD 3 days ago

      Vega 64 pulls 290 watts of power and she said it will pull the same power so this means the new radeon 7 with 7nm will still pull 300 watts while the RTX 2080 pulls 220watts. RTX2080ti takes 250 watts. I wonder what 7nm chips would be like with NVIDIA?

  • 二次元くん
    二次元くん 3 days ago

    Hoping the 1100 card is true.

  • Георги Бойчев

    Tbh AMD gave up on competing with nvidias top card because even when they had better cards for cheaper they didn't sell better just because of fanboys

  • 4ssarad
    4ssarad 3 days ago

    If you watch Buildzoid's reaction to Radeon 7 you probably would understand the thought process of actually releasing such a product. Sadly you seem kinda uninformed on the Vega II department

  • J G
    J G 3 days ago

    please tell me more about this "openCL rendering"

    • Wobbly
      Wobbly 3 days ago

      You know, like Blender's Cycles.

  • Branco Freitas
    Branco Freitas 3 days ago

    Mining card ?

  • Lightnoober
    Lightnoober 3 days ago

    but can amd raytrace?

  • Jnc1
    Jnc1 3 days ago

    I tb bandwidth not possible with ddfr6, this is a pro card that lays games for 700. Reserve all judgement until tested.

  • Saeed AL-Hosni
    Saeed AL-Hosni 3 days ago +2

    This card can be nice for virtual machines because of the ram. It also will be an ideal solution for for both gamer and graphic designer.

  • Terry Martin
    Terry Martin 3 days ago

    Navi will be used in next gen consoles. Microsoft this year e3 announcement, Sony later at its own conference, "later this year" That's my thoughts, no ray tracing for next gen consoles is looking more likely.

  • Shubhang Tomar
    Shubhang Tomar 3 days ago

    boooooo....biased

  • Luke Foreman
    Luke Foreman 3 days ago +4

    Here to drop a dislike

  • Mahfuz Shaon
    Mahfuz Shaon 3 days ago

    additional features !! rtx !! crippling FPS :V. you are acting as if 16gbs is a gimmic. Who in their right mind would get a card with 8gb so that they can play games at bad fps on 700USD.

  • Liamgamer147
    Liamgamer147 3 days ago

    Radeon VII price: $699
    RTX 2080 price: $799
    what the hell man!
    AMD did a better price than NVIDIA

  • Jaime Duncan
    Jaime Duncan 3 days ago

    Graphics:Hi, even having am16gb of HBM is not new for Vega 64, it’s just that this time is faster memory. They have always been 16GB variants, including the one in the iMac pro. So it’s same amount but faster memory, 4 less compute units, faster clock rate and no thermal benefits!!! Calling it a disappointment is an understatement. So much for 7nm graphics. CPU: thermals look very good, and having competitive products for laptops could be great for AMD bottom life.

  • Ameer Zaben
    Ameer Zaben 3 days ago

    i remember when amd gave the same performance with a few extra features and nobody bought their cards, really makes you think :P

  • Capt. John Yossarian

    Its funny when most "YT tech stars" bashing Vulcan as not popular but saying that lack of ray tracing/dlls is huge con when in reality there are almost no titles to use this tech and games that actually using it sacrifice it with performence ...ehhh

    • Capt. John Yossarian
      Capt. John Yossarian 2 days ago

      +Wobbly Who you calling AMD fanboy? if some one is critical that doesn't mean he is fanboy, you know. Facts are that at this moment there's not many titles that support RT (two?) and not many coming, also implementation is puur, fps are puur, dlls is auful. Probably 3-5years from know RT will be more breed used, but now it is just meh.

    • Wobbly
      Wobbly 3 days ago

      "there are almost no titles to use this tech "
      Cuz it's new. Do you think when Nvidia released the first GPU with programmable shaders, ATI fanboys were like "almost no titles use this tech"? They probably were.

  • Different
    Different 3 days ago

    " _..it has the same price but the 2080 also has _*_Ray Tracing™_*_ !_ "
    also the same person, "who will use 16GB of hbm2 memory with 1tb bandwidth for games?!"

  • Brian Voien
    Brian Voien 3 days ago +1

    Your videos usually suck and barely make any sense at best but this has gone too far... so many lols...

  • Suhan Das
    Suhan Das 4 days ago

    Fanboy spotted!
    Believe me, we consumer know what we want.
    Don't need a fanboy's opinion

  • Nicholas Franz
    Nicholas Franz 4 days ago

    Wow, what a bs.

  • COCONUTHEAD
    COCONUTHEAD 4 days ago

    Would this have a higher cryptonight hashrate than Vega?

  • Robi Dawn
    Robi Dawn 4 days ago

    did also mention it was to be a good graphics card for content creators

  • Multicom
    Multicom 4 days ago

    ....

  • TriacTV
    TriacTV 4 days ago

    thats great, but wheres Tank ?

  • heartleSS
    heartleSS 4 days ago +1

    The comments on here are delusional. Obviously a lot of us don't support AMD. All they did almost all of their production span was to try an keep up with Nvidia and Intel. If they want people to cheer for them, then try to surpass them not to be just on par

  • The GovNer
    The GovNer 4 days ago

    I'm going to buy a Radeon 7 just simply because I want a Radeon 7.

  • Viscous Shear
    Viscous Shear 4 days ago

    So AMD not only compete with nvidia they give them a run for their money as well and you get upset about it? Bad review by someone on Nvidias payroll no doubt.

  • realnaste
    realnaste 4 days ago

    C'mon. Nvidia can't kill off their 20xx rtx line by just going 11xx. I just don't see how that could ever make sense.

  • Algorithman
    Algorithman 4 days ago

    You clearly don't understand the cause for using an IO die.
    First: the Zen2 chiplets have no IO built in.
    Second: the whole IO stuff works better in 14nm because of the currents involved (lots of driver transistors etc). The IO die is not only for interconnecting the chiplets, it also drives PCIExpress lanes and memory access.

  • M H
    M H 4 days ago

    You look like a kid. And have opinions like one xD

  • SuperDotaPlaya
    SuperDotaPlaya 4 days ago

    Do some research, rtx 2080 launched at 799 not 699, and also ray tracing will reduce frame rates as it’s more intense that without it...

    • Wobbly
      Wobbly 3 days ago

      Only the founder's edition 2080 were 799. The rest start at 699.

  • Gabriel Savian Kenway

    I hope that nvidia screw up with AMD releasing the new series without ray tracing. Why? Every year we expect something decent from AMD and is always the same history. Ryzen was an exception, a thing that happen 1 time in 20 years.

  • Bain Malum
    Bain Malum 4 days ago

    It seems you don't understand the importance of HBM2 memory.

  • Icestorm_2015
    Icestorm_2015 4 days ago

    Radeon 7 should have 8GB and 12GB models to have some cheaper options

  • javvy156 javvy156
    javvy156 javvy156 4 days ago

    Not impressed. It's still costs more money than I'm willing to spend. Guess I'll keep using my 1070 I purchased a few years ago at actual msrp before the mining craze. They come out with better cards or new series cards of the same type and just jack the price up. Why buy this card when you can just buy a 1080 or relative amd card on eBay used. Who the hell has 500 to 1500 bucks to drop on a high high end video card?

  • Luca Radeschnig
    Luca Radeschnig 4 days ago

    Nvidia fan Boy... hhahahaha

  • cbae55555
    cbae55555 4 days ago

    4:53 There are plenty of use cases for that 16GB today. There is exactly one use case for the RTX ray-tracing features right now.

  • MrAndersonDoesThings

    Why are people saying “ Oh iTs 100 dOollars less” that’s compared to the reference card of course the reference card cost more. Nearly all after market 2080’s cost the same as the Radeon Vll.

  • ttomato182
    ttomato182 4 days ago

    They blew it! IF they could have kept this card at like $499 this would have been what they needed to really tip the scale in their direction. Sucks.

  • Cid Sapient
    Cid Sapient 4 days ago

    lol yea who needs a ryzen cpu thats not 2x 4 core cpus with infinity fabric
    damn u amd for not advancing ur tech fast enough damn u to hell

  • vhazard
    vhazard 4 days ago

    sponser being 1:30

  • Cooked Karambwan
    Cooked Karambwan 4 days ago

    the DMC isnt even a benchmark, just a demo to show that it just works

  • Yggdrasil
    Yggdrasil 4 days ago

    how about gtx 1180 ti for 600$?

  • ninetenduh
    ninetenduh 4 days ago

    Dunno why people still hype RTX and DLSS and use it as a Comparison "It has not RTX or DLSS", well hate to break it to you but Games don't have it too. RTX and DLSS Currently are Over glorified features with no meaning, oh and Vastly overpriced. Powerful but stuffed with features nothing and none has support for. Nvidia played themselves with the RTX cards.

  • Pain Killer
    Pain Killer 4 days ago

    I like the extra features that I will not/cannot use. Who cares if no ray tracing games are released yet. And if in the future they are released, they will most likely be not playable on rtx 2080 with RT on. But yeah, it's good to have an extra feature that I will not/cannot use. Makes me look hip.

  • Douglas Rangel
    Douglas Rangel 5 days ago +1

    After the ting spam, i couldn't take the negativity. How do i get my time back?

  • Dylan Weise
    Dylan Weise 5 days ago

    Nvidia will never lose.
    They even admitted that AMD is working with Nvidia and AMD can be a competitive worker to keep up with some of the other Nvidia cards such as 1080 Ti maybe 2080 as known in the video.
    AMD will just never win, they admitted it.

  • Dylan Weise
    Dylan Weise 5 days ago

    Lmao, Nvidia just needs to do a few clicks and the 2080 beats the Radeon VII by miles..
    Nvidia is very good with their software updates.

    • Dainius Vyšniauskas
      Dainius Vyšniauskas 3 days ago

      Few clicks such as?
      I mean, if anything, Nvidia is known for badly aging software for video cards

  • Michael Boterf
    Michael Boterf 5 days ago

    This would have been two really great videos if you would have split them up. I disagree on your opinion of Radeon VII as cost is everything for me.

  • coreessj3
    coreessj3 5 days ago

    Such a Nvidia fan boy

  • SlowFudgeBalls Da Amazin

    16 gigs will age better.

  • Viktor Ko
    Viktor Ko 5 days ago

    I think something we are all overlooking is who are AMD's biggest customers. At the moment it is both Apple and the console manufacturers. Apple; Explains the workstation work loads and just enough gaming performance for consoles. I still think raytracing is still a bit off for consoles.

  • Bogdan Markovic
    Bogdan Markovic 5 days ago

    Where should I insert my kidney? Because, it looks like tech got a little too expensive... Great start of 2019. Last year was shitty. It's good to this one will be even worse.

  • Gerd L. Plüü
    Gerd L. Plüü 5 days ago

    I want those 16 Gigs of HBM2. Dat price tag doe! :/

  • AgAir Videos
    AgAir Videos 5 days ago

    Way too expensive for a $700 graphics card says the idiot that says $1300 is good for 2080 ti!!!

  • Jmac
    Jmac 5 days ago

    Way to go AMD another non competeing card this will help prices for sure!!

    • Jmac
      Jmac 2 days ago

      +John S. Bias has nothing to do with it the truth is the truth

    • John S.
      John S. 2 days ago

      You're not biased by your profile picture at ALL.....

  • DrOrtmeyer
    DrOrtmeyer 5 days ago

    9:08 why is this such a big deal? i wipe my ass with 120 fps in 1080p.

  • William Foster
    William Foster 5 days ago

    How about review it when it is released instead of pontificating without real data. Another TheXvid tech expert

  • Chris Follett
    Chris Follett 5 days ago

    UFD Tech Sips the Nvidia Koolaid pretty hard. Sad really..

  • Zak New
    Zak New 5 days ago

    I just want navi, the navi version of the 580 is the one I want

  • Greatest Ever
    Greatest Ever 5 days ago

    They're too busy working on the Playstation 5.

  • Mr Lagzy
    Mr Lagzy 5 days ago

    Launch price of the RTX 2080 was $799 - $100 more than what Radeon VII will be. so at 4:40 you're technically wrong.

  • Bluetoothfairiesx
    Bluetoothfairiesx 5 days ago

    Let me clarify this thing,, hbm 2 vs ddr6 which one cost more ? now onto pricing of gpu itself. if hbm 2 cost more than ddr6. why rtx series cost more just because of ray tracing that doesnt even do shit at the moment? also, with 8gb on their rtx 2080. until when can we play games without any notification of "not enough vram" in newest titles? not a fan boy of amd cuz i have rtx card but i just cant understand what some of you guys expect from amd? they're not doing business for free. i saw your live stream and it feels like you are really into nvidia. also rtx 2080 is shit in terms of content creations and only rocking in games. but VII is all around. somebody tell me with no nvidia fanboying please

  • Ian Ide
    Ian Ide 5 days ago

    Wouldn't mind a midrange card (new) that's somewhere near $250-$300. I'll be waiting for sure, I almost never pay "new tax"

  • Brother Dave
    Brother Dave 5 days ago

    Well it is nice you get 3 free games with it.

  • Ronald Szarkowski
    Ronald Szarkowski 5 days ago

    Good thing AMD released something. Imagine a world without them. 5 years from now Nvidia would be releasing a 2080 refresh for 20k that clocks 10 more MHz because it just works!!!!! We need more players not less. Personally I’ve owned Nvidia and Radeon and always loved both.

  • Hpi Savage
    Hpi Savage 5 days ago

    it needs the extra 2 stacks of HBM for the bandwidth as vega really needs a lot of bandwidth as that it one of its bottlenecks.

  • shakattak
    shakattak 5 days ago +40

    You're clueless. $700 is incredible value actually, for a Workstation class GPU that can outperform a similar priced RTX 2080. It's 7nm and consumer will have it in less than a month. Thank you AMD! Why put anything less than 16GB and waste away an awesome 7nm chip? You get PCIE 4, plenty memory for big workloads, future games, multiple 5K displays, and HSA. You get a lot more with VII than you do with RTX. Ray Tracing can make graphics look a bit better in 1080p but that's it, RTX will rob performance and will be turned off competitive multiplayer arenas. Also, VII will be 100% functional on day 1, it will just work...can't say the same RTX.

    • Rafael Guti
      Rafael Guti Day ago

      +N P you are misinformed. An rtx 2060 will get you 70-80 fps with Dxr on. 1080p ultra except the textures in bfv
      Don't know about your country but in mine it sells for 350 dollars

    • N P
      N P Day ago

      +rafael guti well i guess raytracing will matter when you can use it on a graphics card that doesnt cost 1300 $ and get over 60 fps..

    • HeadlessNorseman
      HeadlessNorseman 3 days ago

      +Rafael Guti There will be Navi coming out later this year. None knows what Navi will bring.
      What I DO know however is that AMD's "power" in the gaming industry is far above Nvidia''s because of the consoles.
      And that this time around AMD has worked extra close with MS and Sony to provide their next gen consoles with some secret sauced Navi alongside 7nm Ryzen CPU's.
      A MS employee HAS claimed that the next xbox will be a "consistent 60fps @ 4k kinda beast". Those were the exact words.
      Of course I don't believe that till I see it. But I do hope it's true as that would mean that AMD hasn't just been sitting in their workshop twiddling their thumbs sort to speak. =)

    • Rafael Guti
      Rafael Guti 3 days ago +1

      +HeadlessNorseman the fact that rtx isn't ready? We don't know that yet. Rtx 2060 will give you locked 60fps at medium dxr and ultra settings 1080p on bfv. That's not so bad. But let's see what happens
      And i don't think rt will be in consoles for the next 5 years . consoles have to break the 1080p 60fps barrier first on all titles and that is becoming increasingly difficult every year . They have the bear minimum specs in them to do so.
      This is exactly my problem with amd. Amd have to release ray tracing and AI tech to rival nvidia or nvidia will get complacent and demanding. Just like bullshit Intel. Amd has to save us from bullshit. But instead they release a 700 dollar card with 16gb of vram no average gamer would need. Like wtf.

    • HeadlessNorseman
      HeadlessNorseman 3 days ago

      +Rafael Guti We sure do! Don't know exactly WHAT caused it, but I know it sure as heck wasn't for the reason of being nice or doing charity. BUT! Thanks to it, whatever it was that made Nvidia decide to support freesync, (hampering their G-sync sales in the process), starting tomorrow I'll get to utilize the freesync on my monitors with my Nvidia cards. God bless competition! =)

  • r771 q3
    r771 q3 5 days ago

    You seem to be payed by NVidia. Raytracing won't be ready for years in a lot of games. Disliked ...

  • Aliff Suhaimi
    Aliff Suhaimi 5 days ago

    Vega 64 : 64 CU on 495mm die
    Radeon VII : 60 CU on 331mm die
    25% average performance increase in games
    I don't know about you, but I think Radeon VII is a decent product.
    If only it comes with 8GB HBM2 though...

  • Kris Planker
    Kris Planker 5 days ago

    By the time Nvidia launches an 1180, AMD will already have announced the VIII, which I predict will be basically Vega's equivalent to Pascal's 480>580>590. This will be a good thing, as the 580 was a competitively priced product from launch to like a month ago. And now the Vega 56, which will likely see a price drop, will compete with the 1160.

  • Ben R.
    Ben R. 5 days ago

    Just get a used 1080 Ti. To hell with ray tracing! To hell with 1300$ for a 2080 ti!

  • zerocool
    zerocool 5 days ago

    $700 start price only means the next GPU will be a lot more than that.

  • 20GRIZZ20
    20GRIZZ20 5 days ago +1

    You’d have to be an absolute delusional AMD fanboy to buy the R7.

  • Tulah
    Tulah 5 days ago

    I'm excited for next gen AMD CPU's, not so much so for GPU. Though as silly as it is, I was thinking about getting both 2080TI and whatever AMD comes up as top end model later and throw them into same PC for different task. :-P