Why Everyone's Talking about Encanto

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  • Published on Jan 25, 2022
  • Spoilers: Because it's great, but also some less great stuff...
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  • David 4rancibia
    David 4rancibia 3 months ago +4554

    Definitelly a latin grandma admiting her mistakes and apologizing is the biggest miracle in the movie
    Edit: Just in case, it's very common that families in latin america have either a Grandma or Grandpa who is usually super involved with the family but is also VERY stubborn and very prideful, and refuses to change some behaviour or being open to learn the things their children or grandchildren want to teach them. I know this isn't just a latin american thing but it's something we know very well

    • Silas Hurd
      Silas Hurd 25 days ago

      Well, it’s a movie and there will always be things that may be “unrealistic” for many people. So yeah

    • Error_404
      Error_404 2 months ago

      @Tortoise Of Legends I know your white families are too soft to understand but Latinos are strong and family and connections and relationships are more important than issues that Abuela did.

    • Naomi
      Naomi 3 months ago

      @Cintrón Productions what???

    • Una que pasaba por aqui
      Una que pasaba por aqui 3 months ago +2

      @Vi O Alma didn't kicked Bruno out of the house, he left to protect Mirabel, (not because his family "was against him") without saying a word. Alma didn't know what happened. When he left she probably saw that as a betrayal, she thought he abandoned his family. You are too hard on Alma. She apologized, admitted she was wrong, and changed her ways. Honestly, what punishment do you think she deserves?

    • infomercial
      infomercial 3 months ago +1

      @I Think she’s a cartoon character he can feel however he wants about her

  • Chi
    Chi 3 months ago +1407

    Honestly, I loved the Bruno room scenery. It shows how big and empty and isolating his room is. It built up to the mystery of his character.....and then he turned out to be a lovable nerd who watches rat soap operas. I think that was intentional. They were building him up just for him to be a tiny dork. They wanted us to expect something different than what we got. And it was hilarious.
    And Mirabel going for the candle symbolizes that she is willing to put her life in danger to save the magic immediately after Abuela accused her of hurting the family. She immediately turned around and did the opposite of what she was accused of. She's basing her worth on saving the magic, and is willing to risk death to do so. Abuela got to witness that, and realized how wrong she was.

    • Neis OvO
      Neis OvO 2 months ago +12

      The scene of Mirabel getting the candle also led to the scene of the house protecting her, which not only was heart breaking (that house has so much personality!!) It really showed the bond between her and the casita.
      I also liked Bruno's room, plus some writers have explained that one of the reasons it looks that way is that it changed as Bruno isolated himself, which explains it being so hard to reach the top of the room.

    • DeathKitta
      DeathKitta 3 months ago +41

      Plus I love how in the beginning Mirabel was guiding him and in the end he was guiding her.

    • Chi
      Chi 3 months ago +15

      @Vicente Matías Good point!

    • Vicente Matías
      Vicente Matías 3 months ago +100

      Also, the destruction of the room makes way for Antonio's comeback, as he offers his room for Bruno's ritual. So it had more narrative merit than at first glance.

  • Maya Hope
    Maya Hope 3 months ago +2962

    I loved so many of the minor subversions in this movie, especially how it doesn't throw them in your face or pat itself on the back for them (unlike, say, Frozen).
    -Bruno not being a villain, despite his excellent villain song
    -Abuela not being a villain either: she's the source of the conflicts, but she isn't portrayed as evil, just hurt
    -Mariano not being an abusive, misogynistic jerk, just not Isabela's type, and nice enough that she couldn't turn him down without ruining everyone's view of her
    -Luisa being feminine, and very emotionally expressive
    -The amount of creative visuals in the musical numbers! I really hope this becomes a trend for CGI animated movies going forward.

    • Yourson Isold
      Yourson Isold Month ago

      @Noah Barnhart and it Not to ruin it for you or anything, but in Bruno's vision you could see Mirabel hugging Abuela before it turned into Isabella. The Vision explicitely wasn't chonological as Bruno said it's getting chaotic. So the way to save the family miracle was always about Mirabel making up with Abuela, while her making up with Isabella was just a step to getting there. Bruno's visions are always accurate, but the issue is with context and how people interpret it. That's why he was so hated, because people always assumed he predicted the bad things and that they happened because of him.

    • crypt
      crypt 2 months ago

      @EndertheDragon0922 Just for the record, I didn't even compare taking a shit to shedding light on family issues. What I said was existing only for plot purposes and nothing else is as realistic as taking a shit is, and I would prefer to watch neither. This also wasn't the only thing I said

    • crypt
      crypt 2 months ago

      @EndertheDragon0922 Thanks, I try

    • EndertheDragon0922
      EndertheDragon0922 2 months ago +2

      @crypt Yes, because taking a shit and shedding light on family issues are comparable. Great argument, I feel so persuaded.

    • crypt
      crypt 2 months ago

      @EndertheDragon0922 What I meant by what I said was that they don't do anything and just exist in the background until the movie needs them, then they appear, do something, and go back into the background. They have relatively 1-dimensional personalities for the most part, so it's irrelevant imo

  • KitsuneGB1001
    KitsuneGB1001 3 months ago +976

    Does this count as a “reverse twist villain” where everyone in the family vilifies him but he’s actually not?

  • Silas Kow
    Silas Kow 3 months ago +668

    I have to say that the scene with the house falling down was very emotional for me. Throughout the entire movie, I treated the house as a character in itself, and at the end of that scene I ended up in tears. The house, despite being the one that suffered the most, had to silently accompany the sadness of each one, and in the end, did not measure efforts to ensure everyone's safety. Honestly more than anything else it was a character's farewell scene.

    • FoxNamedAndrea
      FoxNamedAndrea 3 months ago +44

      Exactly! The only reason I’m happy they got their gifts back is because it meant the house didn’t die 😭

  • crystalfairy912
    crystalfairy912 3 months ago +3443

    My only concern when it comes to more Encanto content is focusing more on the lore/magic than the family. I don’t want another Frozen 2 out of this. I don’t care where the magic came from or what determined each Madrigal’s gift. I want to see more simple interactions among the family and their community. How is Bruno adjusting after ten years inside walls? Do the grandkids attend school or have friends outside the family? I’ll take backstories on Augustin and Felix before I take any more save the magic stories.

    • scruqfy
      scruqfy 2 months ago

      @Zoe Sumra LMAO sooo true!

    • Zoe Sumra
      Zoe Sumra 2 months ago +1

      Agreed. This movie could have been ninety minutes of the characters arguing in the bathroom and having character development that way, and I would still love it.

    • 12345678abracadabra
      12345678abracadabra 3 months ago +2

      The ride is committed to the magical realism of Colombian folklore. One of its tenants is that you just never explains the magic because it's theme over details.

    • crystalfairy912
      crystalfairy912 3 months ago

      @scruqfy If we can get Ciao, Alberto, I would love a short of Bruno adjusting back into a social life!

    • scruqfy
      scruqfy 3 months ago +2

      I think Disney should make a short film of Bruno adjusting . Also one of Agustin and Felix I personally have a feeling they don’t go to school because they are to busy considering.. they do everything for the town

  • Lord Felidae
    Lord Felidae 3 months ago +1058

    13:45
    I think it’s because the Miracle is SUCH A BIG DEAL to the family, that she legitimately feels that the risk to her own life is worth POSSIBLY saving the candle, since saving it MIGHT mean the magic can be saved. All the years and years of the magic being the most important part of her family makes the possibility of losing it a threat worth RISKING HER LIFE to her. It’s a sign of how badly she has been affected to her very core, and how badly Alma’s attitude has damaged the self image of her children and grand children.
    I’m willing to bet that seeing Mirabel nearly get herself killed, and Isabella and Camilo also put themselves in danger for the candle was a part of the wake up call Alma experienced. She was told that she was breaking the family, then as her home begins to fall apart around her, instead of getting out and finding safety, her grandchildren run as fast as they can into the MIDDLE OF THE HOUSE to save a dying candle. Not just Mirabel, who’s self worth has clearly been hurt, but also Camilo and Isabella. The jester without any way to keep himself safe and the beautiful, successful, powerful golden child who just got what she wanted more than anything NEARLY GOT THEMSELVES KILLED trying to get the candle.
    She realized Mirabel wasn’t just talking about herself. Alma saw the proof when Camilo was desperately shape shifting to avoid being crushed by debris and Isabella almost broke her neck swinging towards the candle. She saw with her own eyes that the seemingly most secure grandchildren from both sides of the family thought their own safety was less important than a candle.
    She saw Mirabel was right.

    • Mai Sage
      Mai Sage 2 months ago +5

      @Nicolle :P You're shifting the burden of proof onto other people (assume it's true until we prove otherwise) instead of substantiating your own point.

    • PizzaTime
      PizzaTime 2 months ago

      @Nico I think Camilo was trying to get to mirabel and isabela was goin for the candle

    • nom noom
      nom noom 2 months ago +1

      @Nicolle :P ha ha 'waist'.
      But seriously if you saw a screenshot on twitter it was probably on a website, so you could have just copied the url.
      I don't wanna make you mad kid, just try not to do the same thing again next time :)

    • Luna p
      Luna p 3 months ago +8

      @Nicolle :P from director jared bush: "Camilo and Isabela are trying to save the candle. Their whole lives they’ve been told it’s the most important object in the Encanto."

    • E.MUFFI.N
      E.MUFFI.N 3 months ago +1

      LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • Loren Daemon
    Loren Daemon 3 months ago +760

    13:50
    I thought her retrieving the candle seemed perfectly reasonable. She's been raised her entire life to view the candle as the most important object in the world - of course she had to try to save it.

    • Kenji Bacha
      Kenji Bacha 2 months ago +5

      @Dark Storm Camillo and Isabella do try going for the candle, but their gifts fail them at critical moments, while everyone else's wouldn't have been as useful in trying to get it or they were already being pushed out by Casita.
      Also, I don't think there would have been any safe way for Casita to get the candle down from the window sill, aside from just punting it off with one of the shutters (and then I don't think that would work, since the shutters on the window opened outwardly.
      I'm not trying to kill your speculation, just wanted to present some of my own interpretations about the situation.

    • Dark Storm
      Dark Storm 2 months ago +2

      I'm a little surprised more people didn't try and save the candle, but maybe some of them thought the house itself would sort of like fling the candle to Abuela? So it became less about saving the candle and more that Maribel's parents wanted to save her
      And like, don't get me wrong, in the heat of the moment none of them are probably thinking clearly, but the house totally could have saved the candle for them. It can do so much and it even kept them from coming back in and also helped Maribel retrieve the candle and then brought in some objects to cover Maribel so she didn't get crushed by the crumbling. So it could have just also shoved Maribel out and given her the candle, which admittedly be less of a moment for Maribel, but would still serve the purpose of maybe proving the connection between her and the house, and maybe symbolize that she's the next keeper of the candle, that it specifically would give the candle to *her* rather than Abuela.
      But I do think having Maribel prove herself to the house by going after the candle herself is great, and the house helping her further cements their bond, but also in my hypothetical scenario, Maribel would still try for the candle as her first though and the house giving her the candle still cements their bond so they both work, really. Mine sacrifices being more visually interesting to showcase the house not letting Maribel putting herself in danger though.

    • Eduardo Henrique
      Eduardo Henrique 3 months ago +6

      Exactly, it makes total sense she would try to save the candle!

    • Caelin Coolz
      Caelin Coolz 3 months ago +3

      Good point, Loren.

    • Some A. Hole
      Some A. Hole 3 months ago +17

      @Suitov The house had a personality, that thing was alive.

  • Suitov
    Suitov 3 months ago +481

    Abuela doesn't need to be punished, humbled and broken. That's people not understanding the final revelation of the film, which is about generational trauma and there being NO villain in the story, only victims who deserve to heal. I suspect it's a generational thing to want Alma punished. The honest ones among them will grow up and find her pain and mistakes more and more relatable as they themselves do things they can't take back.

    • star wolf wing
      star wolf wing Month ago +1

      @EndertheDragon0922 you are right, just like how some people and even fans, they hate Izabella because she reminds them of their older mean siblings, yes I can agree people hate Alma because she remind them of toxic relative/person in their family who never apologized for their action or the pain they caused.

    • Suitov
      Suitov Month ago

      @Michael Henry Exactly that. Thanks. I didn't get a notif about the reply or I'd have answered more or less exactly what you said.

    • Michael Henry
      Michael Henry Month ago +4

      @EndertheDragon0922 Neither are right. They are saying it's a generational thing, as in the people who wanted Alma punished are younger and the people who understood are older, because younger people have not had the life experience to be able to relate to Alma and the mistakes she made.

    • G
      G 2 months ago +7

      @HenshinFanatic the thing is, they arent cartoonish villains, those guys existed and still exist throughout Colombia

    • ktownshutdown21
      ktownshutdown21 2 months ago +6

      I just love how people want characters that make simple mistakes to be so harshly "punished", yet Captain MAGA from Falcon and the Winter Solider deserved a pass because "the pressure, you guuuuuuysssss!!!"
      Qwhite telling what people's thresholds are 🤔

  • Bitsy83
    Bitsy83 3 months ago +374

    The thing about Bruno‘s room, and the Director clarified this, is that it didn’t always look like that. Basically the point of the stairs and the crumbling walls and all that or to represent Bruno‘s distance from the family. If I interpreted this correctly, Jared Bush on his Twitter said that the room didn’t have this massive mountain in it. Overtime, while Bruno felt himself becoming more and more introverted from both his family and the town, the stairs began to form and create this huge distance between himself and them. There’s also a theory that the reason why the room fell apart when Mirabel collected the pieces of the prophecy was because Casita knew that Bruno didn’t want anyone finding the prophecy, so in a weird way it kind of booby trapped itself. Not that it was trying to kill Mirabel, but just stop her from continuing or taking the prophecy out of the room.

    • Dj You don't need to know
      Dj You don't need to know 3 months ago +1

      He says in the movie that there are a lot of stairs himself. If it looked different, there were still a lot of stairs even before he left.

    • Naomi
      Naomi 3 months ago

      That's what I thought

    • Bitsy83
      Bitsy83 3 months ago

      @Caelin Coolz thanks. I DO recall seeing a post from the director stating Bruno slept in a hammock

    • Caelin Coolz
      Caelin Coolz 3 months ago +5

      @Bitsy83 That does make a lot of sense, seeing as the casita probably wouldn't make a room as difficult to traverse and sleep in. I mean, maybe the sand could act like a cushion but Bruno's tower probably had foliage, a sleeping structure of some sort, and a better path to the top or something. Good point, Bitsy.

    • Bitsy83
      Bitsy83 3 months ago +8

      @Caelin Coolz like I said, it’s mainly a theory. Personally I think it’s just to represent how distant Bruno was to the family, which is why once it was messed with with someone who was not Bruno, that’s why I began to fall apart. It’s like the tower was a shell of his former self

  • xxTC-96xx
    xxTC-96xx 3 months ago +9003

    I'd love to see a series that just follows the family's daily life, like the Tangled series minus the grand adventure, I'd be just as happy with normal stuff they have to go through

    • may may
      may may 2 months ago

      Modern Family meets Encanto

    • EmmaReadsBooks
      EmmaReadsBooks 2 months ago

      YESSSS oml just imagine the animation style.......the move is gorgeous in CGI but it feels like it could definitely work beautifully in 2D (similar to the of tangled the series)

    • Emilia Sin
      Emilia Sin 2 months ago

      @Bidê i’m not saying it is, it is however a stereotype that shouldn’t be enforced on all muscular women

    • Bidê
      Bidê 2 months ago

      @Emilia Sin That's not a problem, if a strong muscular woman is a lesbian it's not a problem.

  • ΛURORΛ ΞCHOES
    ΛURORΛ ΞCHOES 3 months ago +201

    Them getting their powers back felt inevitable to me because the powers are representative of the family member archetype they embody.
    Louisa is the strong older sister
    Dolores is the family gossip so she hears everything.
    Camillo is a social butterfly prankster.
    Julieta is the mom whose cooking just makes you feel better.
    Pepa is the crazy aunt who shows up and after she leaves it feels like a hurricane just blew through.
    Isabella is the sister that can do no wrong.
    Antonio is the kid who's obsessed with animals or dinosaurs.
    They're all normal people turned up to 11.

    • Luiza Lima
      Luiza Lima 2 months ago +1

      I think you’ve betrayed yourself as french haha

    • Caelin Coolz
      Caelin Coolz 3 months ago +2

      @AgateTheGreat Ha ha! I know. I misspelled on purpose.

    • AgateTheGreat
      AgateTheGreat 3 months ago +1

      @Caelin Coolz brain*

    • Caelin Coolz
      Caelin Coolz 3 months ago +8

      Wow! I never actually thought of that! U hav 200 IQ brane

  • Enzo L.
    Enzo L. 3 months ago +405

    13:45 In the scene of Mirabel getting the candle, I read another interpratation, of being the moment Abuela realises the damage she caused to her family, where Mirabel was willing to risk her life to protect the miracle, to protect the candle, a candle, Abuela realised she made her family believe a candle was more important than them.

    • Enzo L.
      Enzo L. 2 months ago +4

      @Chele Exactly, just one thing, when I said "I read another interpretation" I meant literally, as in I saw this idea on someone else's post, don't remember who they were, but I did not come with this on my own, though I wish I could.
      I not looking to be mean, I just felt I would be lying if I didn't clarify that.

    • Chele
      Chele 2 months ago +11

      Yes, that’s how I read it. Because she’s been blaming the cracks on Mirabel all along - if the house just fell down after a screaming argument, she’d still blame it on Mirabel. But nearly losing her - being unable to protect her when she risks her life in an attempt to save the miracle (I love that you can hear Abuela’s panic when she’s calling her) - is exactly what makes her realize that she’s forgotten who the miracle is for. She was desperate to preserve the miracle to protect her family, but now her granddaughter is in danger protecting the miracle. That’s what realigns her priorities.

    • Dakuten
      Dakuten 3 months ago +8

      I like how you put it

    • AscendantStoic
      AscendantStoic 3 months ago +23

      Bingo 👍

  • cool beans
    cool beans 3 months ago +153

    Dolores was around 12yrs old when Bruno left, meaning she has had her powers for 7yrs, so Bruno is fully aware of her being able to hear everything.
    She was old enough to remember him and she was sympathetic to his situation, being like the only one in We Don't Talk About Bruno to actually say something that isn't spooky or begrudging of him.
    I think he spoke to her when he went into hiding and explained that he will be away for awhile and that she should keep it a secret for now, the irony being she can't keep small secrets but knew of the biggest one for years.
    She knew he was safe, probably sneaked in some food for him ("stop pretending to be dolores so you can have seconds"?) and maybe even found joy in his telenovas. When she said she could hear the rats talking in the walls i found it odd because she can't understand animals, except if she was hinting at Bruno talking to the rats.
    Meh i dunno, but it's fun to speculate

    • Comfortable Sofa
      Comfortable Sofa Month ago

      AHHH thats so sad but interesting

    • cool beans
      cool beans 2 months ago

      @Florian i'm just theorizing and don't want to take accountability for my speculations in case they're wrong lol😂

    • Florian
      Florian 2 months ago

      You know I just imagined a clay tablet being thrown away, like Bruno and his vision tablets, when I read "Meh i dunno..."?

    • Кин Тацу
      Кин Тацу 3 months ago +13

      In the song she not only doesn't say anything bad about him, she kind of explains it all even. Like "they didn't understand his prophecies, so they began to fear and ostracize him"
      Implying she actually does not fear him, unlike all the others

    • Dwok The Rayne Jonsohn
      Dwok The Rayne Jonsohn 3 months ago +3

      @Sparkletta! I thought she just didn't have her first serving yet and Camilo was "taking" hers

  • Sunspot Mill
    Sunspot Mill 3 months ago +48

    Not only do I like how Encanto represents Colombians and Colombian culture, I also like how it represents the racial diversity of Latin American community and you can tell right away with the Madrigals themselves. Most fictional media would just portray Hispanic/Latin American people with brown-to-dark skin. But there are definitely different ethnicities and skin tones within Latin American societies no different from North American societies. Any Hispanic/Latin American person can be black, white, indigenous, asian, mestizo/mixed, etc.

    • Maria Lima
      Maria Lima Month ago

      This

    • Sparkletta!
      Sparkletta! Month ago +1

      @Gigi Francis yeahhh so theres basically zero balance. On one hand there is western media with all indians being dark, and then theres my own fricking country where the dumb colonialist concept of 'fair skin >> dark skin' still prevails, and honestly, i now think western media is doing better 😭

    • Gigi Francis
      Gigi Francis 2 months ago +3

      @Sparkletta! But doesnt Bollywood push the light skinned ppl in the movies...without the darker skinned peers?
      I would think that the latter feels seen..aftet soooo many years.

    • Sparkletta!
      Sparkletta! 3 months ago +8

      It felt nice to me too. I’m not hispanic, but Indian, and for some reason we’re always represented as having incredibly dark skin in western media. I’m not saying some of us don’t have dark skin or that that’s a bad thing, but there are loads of fair skinned Indians (my mother and brother, for example) and it WOULD be nice to see a fair, or atleast lighter skinned non stereotypical Indian in media.

    • KRiS
      KRiS 3 months ago +12

      I loved this, myself. It's also why I don't understand comments from people who think Pepa is adopted. Did they not see the newborn with red hair? Genetics are cool because they can offer surprises sometimes.

  • 241Cookies
    241Cookies 3 months ago +6840

    Encanto actually feels like a Disney movie that SHOULD get a series. Because, as you said, it has too much potential to be contained in one movie. I also think it will help with the story’s pacing and give us more depth to the characters. Let’s be honest, the characters really are the drive of the narrative being told

    • Moo cow
      Moo cow Month ago +1

      @Wences Acosta oh! Then yeah, they’ve been screwing the show over a lot

    • Wences Acosta
      Wences Acosta Month ago

      @Moo cow Nothing wrong with TOH, everything wrong with Disney's treatment of it

    • Moo cow
      Moo cow Month ago

      @Wences Acosta what’s wrong with the owl house?

    • waityamihereagain 19
      waityamihereagain 19 2 months ago +1

      What I want to see is Abuela slightly relapsing, then being called out on it, and then making an effort to do better. This shouldn't be an entire episode (except maybe the one when she asks her family TO call her out) but change is difficult and decades old habits would be hard to break

  • Cazriel
    Cazriel 3 months ago +79

    I disagree on Brunos Room. I thought it was a great bit of visual storytelling on how people suffering with mental illness like anxiety and depression feel like we need to make ourselves distant and difficult to approach. We, like Bruno, have been convinced that we are the problem. We don't want people to come to close because we think we are going to screw it up in some way.

  • Dean Scordilis
    Dean Scordilis 3 months ago +428

    The “Abuela should be punished” crowd really irks me because they’re all viewing a movie about Colombia in Colombia featuring a Colombian family through a painfully American-centric and individualistic lens. Gives me big “I wouldn’t last in the Army cause I’d knock out the first drill sergeant to get in my face” energy every time.

    • Matty Gee
      Matty Gee 2 months ago +5

      Dude i wouldnt last in the millitary because the drill sargent woould terrify me, hate screaming in my face it makes me anxious
      Idk how tf people stand up to them

    • Pick Collins
      Pick Collins 2 months ago +11

      Abuela did end up having to face the consequences of her actions. She had to watch her family get hurt to save the miracle that she revered over all else. That’s why she told Mirabel that the family was broken because of herself, not Mirabel

    • LorisBoi
      LorisBoi 2 months ago +6

      @Eduarda Clearly no one hugged them when they were young so their emotional intelligence and compassion are stunted.

    • Eduarda
      Eduarda 2 months ago +14

      I'm not Colombian (I'm Brazilian) but I totally agree with you, the whole point of the movie was that abuela went through so much stuff that she wanted to make sure her family didn't have to go through the same struggles. Of course she was wrong and needed to change, but saying she deserves punishment is so unfair and selfish.

    • Dakuten
      Dakuten 3 months ago +7

      That's a good analogy you used there

  • ayior
    ayior 3 months ago +383

    I was REALLY glad they got to keep their gifts. As someone who was deemed exceptional because I have things I'm very passionate about, I was scared of them loosing their gifts because it would have left me with the message "Hey, you need to abandon your passions to be healthy". Instead "You're more than just what you're useful for" as they went with was a lot healther imho both for those who are treated as exceptional and those who feel bad because they don't feel exceptional.

    • Vickypedia
      Vickypedia 3 months ago +33

      It would have made me feel especially sad about Isabella, who only now discovered what she can do with her gift. Permanently losing it shortly after she finally figured it out would have been awful.

  • Fareha Islam
    Fareha Islam 3 months ago +95

    I personally think that the scene where Mirabel is running to get the candle really shows how badly Abuela’s prioritization of the candle and the miracle has screwed the family up, to the point where one of them is putting it over their entire life. I feel like that really would have served as a wake up call to Abuela to start treating the family as better and more important than their powers.

  • NobodyC13
    NobodyC13 3 months ago +2637

    There are theories that Abuela favors Isabella not because she views her granddaughter as a "babymaker" but because she is projecting the life she could've had onto her. The movie concludes that Abuela's choices were motivated by her husband's murder, and that she's grooming Isabella into the perfect woman, with the perfect life, and the perfect marriage to the perfect man of the village because she's trying to recreate the life that was robbed from her. It should be noted that Abuella, when she was young, looked uncannilly similar to Isabella, which maybe why she gravitated toward her granddaughter and trying to set her up with Mariano, who looks like a hunkier version of her late husband (right down to having similar personalites as they're both good men who are nice, dorky, creative romantics; because Dolores mentions Mariano writes poetry as a hobby and Abuelo Pedro was a writer). It was only until Mirabel got Abuela to reconcile with her trauma and to start seeing her family past their utility and as people, that she finally realized it was very wrong of her to try and live vicariously through her grandchildren.

    • Sparkletta!
      Sparkletta! 3 months ago

      @Idek yea actually....where was it mentioned?

    • Idek
      Idek  3 months ago +2

      When did we learn Abuelo Pedro was a writer?

    • waya
      waya 3 months ago

      wow

    • Sunspot Mill
      Sunspot Mill 3 months ago +10

      @Bichen Up Ur - True. Dolores could've been the golden child too. But I think it's probably because Isabella is the oldest grandchild of the oldest triplet. (She and Dolores might be born a few months apart from each other). So it kind of makes sense that she would get the golden child treatment for being the firstborn. Someone else also suggested that Abuela could be setting Isabella up to be the next matriarch for the same reasons.

    • aazhie
      aazhie 3 months ago +1

      @Sierra Fils If she was grooming her for that, then she absolutely could want her to live out the interrupted life Abuela had disrupted :) but I love wondering about all the reasons and motives, even if we may never know!

  • Chaz Z
    Chaz Z 3 months ago +83

    I will say, Mirabel attempting to get the candle while the house is falling apart, to me, was further cementing her love and dedication to her family's wellbeing. The house is literally falling apart around her, and this girl who has NO POWERS is still doing her best to save something she knows is precious to her family and especially Abuela, even after realising that she'll never be good enough for her literally moments before. She's not doing it to prove herself anymore like she was throughout the movie, now it's simply a selfless, instinctual act of love, persevering despite having realised she'll never be enough, and her doing so in that context helps to emphasise just how unwavering that love for her family really is

    • Dragon’s Touch
      Dragon’s Touch 3 months ago +4

      I also subscribe to the interpretation that seeing her grandchildren risked their lives to save a candle was the final nail Abuela needed to see the extent of the damaged she’d done

  • DJMAUS
    DJMAUS 3 months ago +67

    13:45 Mirabel reaching the candle was VERY important- it showed that the family relied on their magical gifts and they were still unable to get to the candle. Only the person who didn’t use magic could get to it.

  • zhamac1
    zhamac1 3 months ago +143

    12:59 Me personally, I would view the narrative purpose of “Be Our Guest” would be that it serves as a moment of levity for our hero (Belle), after being thrusted into a threatening situation (being held captive in a castle by a monster) and also relieving built up tension up to that point, showing that she still has comforting allies in her given circumstance. But that’s just my interpretation.

    • Vance Sirron
      Vance Sirron 3 months ago +7

      Also gives Belle a reason to think that the servants are welcoming and nice people and that this whole new setting is not hostile to her, which starts the process to eventually warm up to Beast.

    • Johnny Zeppeli
      Johnny Zeppeli 3 months ago +1

      @Cp.x.20 I wholeheartedly agree

    • Cp.x.20
      Cp.x.20 3 months ago +17

      I think "be out guest" is a great way to show that while the Idea of servants as living furniture is a nightmarish concept - the actual characters are still just people, and are friendly - much like the beast himself.
      Like, the average person would Freak the Fck out if the chair they were sitting in came to life + started speaking, and that's without knowing it used to be a human but was cursed into its current form. So "be our Guest" is both a lighthearted + fun song for fun + levity's sake, AND an important piece of the moral/plot - that things/people that appear scary/terrifying at first sight can be more than their surface appearance.

  • Nunya Biznes
    Nunya Biznes 3 months ago +26

    Kind of amazed that Antonio's stuffed tiger never came up again. It would have been a perfect symbol for him moving beyond Mirabel's help: she gave him a stuffed tiger to keep him company, he gets his powers with a *real* tiger and more company than he could ever need, Mirabel feels more useless than ever, cue interpersonal tension and character growth.

  • Arella Jardin
    Arella Jardin 3 months ago +2535

    The scene to save the candle is relevant as more than just an action scene. Mirabel is also thinking in superficial terms of “saving the miracle”, which she thinks she must do to matter to the family. It’s her role, her chance to make them proud. Of course, the house has to collapse, because saving some wax isn’t what’s going to fix the cracks. It’s understanding and reconciliation.
    It also plays into the “rushed” turnaround of Abuela. Yelling at someone doesn’t change their minds. And long talks are…. not what kids films do. So, for her to be snapped out of her mindset, she needs to lose everything, at the exact moment she’s confronted by her guilt in the problem. There’s no more argument with the magic gone, no more trying to save face. And she just witnessed Mirabel risk her life to try and save the candle. It all works to give her the emotional smack to admit her failings and apologize.

    • Anonymous Cause Why Not
      Anonymous Cause Why Not 3 months ago

      @Saddler Rye I meant more for the audience tbh, especially the younger side.

    • Saddler Rye
      Saddler Rye 3 months ago +1

      @Anonymous Cause Why Not I think arguing with someone often results in the opposing effect. If everyone started to get mad at Abuela, it might've resulted in her getting even more stubborn. I think it was more impactful for her to see the harm than people just telling her.

    • Anonymous Cause Why Not
      Anonymous Cause Why Not 3 months ago

      Yeah, but seeing everyone argue with her and *then* that would’ve made it clearer why Abuela changed, in my opinion.

    • EnderGikury
      EnderGikury 3 months ago

      @Saddler Rye yup 👍

    • Saddler Rye
      Saddler Rye 3 months ago +2

      @EnderGikury Also, when Mirabel reconnects with Bruno and gets him to use his power again, literally bringing him back into the house, his door lights up again. When Bruno left the family, he left his power as well. I don't think that he'd be able to make prophecies even if he wanted to while he hid inside the walls. Also, the fact that Casita doesn't have control inside Bruno's tower further empathises the fact that he's disconnected from the rest of the household.

  • OT7 biased Mashups
    OT7 biased Mashups 3 months ago +36

    I actually have an interesting idea about Brunos room. We all know that their rooms get created fitted to the person right? And from Isabela we know that their rooms can actually respond to their feelings and thoughts. So the way Brunos room looks makes a lot of sense! By the time he left he was afraid of people asking him for a prophecy and since he needs a big open space they'd probably always have to come to his room. So it changed to make it super hard to reach. Only the ones who REALLY wanted to know their future would endure it, so probably nobody asked him anymore until he had the vision about Mirabel and we all know how that turned out. And for the years that he lived in the walls he tried to forget about his gift. Maybe the room grew some more extra stairs during that time.

    • Ted Tolliver
      Ted Tolliver 3 months ago +2

      Yes, the director Jared Bush basically confirmed this on his Twitter.

  • BenJoe72
    BenJoe72 3 months ago +18

    "Camillo's transformation are pretty much just jumpcuts with follow through"
    YES!!! Finally someone addressing it :D
    I had to frame by frame because I was intrigued in how well they hid most of those transformations in motion and I'm still amazed at how fucking genius is to just pull his hair up and let it fall while he's transforming from Dolores xD It's magic! Brain magic of the animators!

    • BenJoe72
      BenJoe72 11 days ago

      @Roman Ruano They literally change character models from one frame to the other. That's what she means that they are jumpcuts. And for the follow through she means like if Dolores' hair is pulled up then they pull Camillo's hair up too and pet it fall. Also he uses turns to hide the transformation and he overshoots those most of the time so you won't know when in the turn exactly the model switch happens.

    • Roman Ruano
      Roman Ruano 11 days ago

      I'm a bit lost as to what she means jump cuts with follow through. Is it because they are quick transformations. I'm not sure what's being pointed out I guess

  • TimeMachine
    TimeMachine 3 months ago +22

    I actually think the final house falling apart action scene is GREAT. All the adults are focused on getting to safety, while the ones running for the candle are the kids. You say “maybe it’s about Abuela seeing how dedicated Mirabel is”. It’s about more than that. It’s about Abuela (and everyone else) realizing how much they’ve placed the magic above their family, to the point where their children, and Mirabel especially, are ready to DIE for it. It’s basically a moment for Abuela and all the adults to finally realize “we have made this miracle too important, to the point where we are making our own children devalue their own lives”. It’s one of my favorite scenes in the movie, and if you watch closely you can see a lot going on with it.

    • KRiS
      KRiS 3 months ago +1

      I love how Casita shuffles the adults out and helps Camillo and Isabella as their powers fail.

  • L Davenport
    L Davenport 3 months ago +48

    i saw mirabel trying to get the candle as a last desperate attempt to prove herself to the family, to the point of putting herself in danger-- putting the magic/everyone's gifts over her own safety or even her life. i think abuela looks so horrified afterwards not only because the house is gone but also she realizes how mirabel almost died. i agree with everything you said except for about that scene

  • Elf Pi
    Elf Pi 3 months ago +3259

    I've said this before and I'll say it again: You have to be really careful with the messages your art ends up expressing. If Mirabel had gotten a gift in the end, the message would switch to "You deserve acceptance when you become special" and if the rest of the family hadn't regained their gifts it would switch to "You'll be accepted once you don't stand out anymore". I think Disney made the right call on these particular decisions.

    • G
      G 2 months ago +1

      yeah, also Mirabel never cared about a miracle per say, she wasnt jealous of her family, not even from Isabela, she just wanted to be a part of, something she couldnt feel properly because Abuela, the matriarch, couldnt acknowledge her

    • Trusting
      Trusting 2 months ago +1

      @Poppy Preach!

    • Rosie Johnson
      Rosie Johnson 2 months ago +1

      @Zoe Sumra maybe, or maybe he actually heals pretty fast on his own and no one ever realized because Julieta had always fed him immediately?

    • Zoe Sumra
      Zoe Sumra 2 months ago +1

      @Rosie Johnson Agustín had time for his bee sting reactions to recover without medication. Maybe Mariano got thwacked in the nose again on the meantime?

    • Mari Janet
      Mari Janet 3 months ago

      @Saddler Rye this, this is what Mulan (2019) suffered from

  • Paradox Free
    Paradox Free 3 months ago +26

    One of my favorite moments in the film is Agustin saying "I was standing up for my daughter"
    It was so damn satisfying.

  • Carlos Ocasio
    Carlos Ocasio 3 months ago +13

    About the Abuela thing and how she “didn’t apologize.”
    First of, she did apologize, but it was through her actions. She started to express why she did these things and started acting differently towards Mirabel, Bruno, her daughters(in song too!) and it was really nice. When was the last time someone openly said the words “I’m sorry for X and Y” to you? It does happen but a lot of times our actions are the ones that speak!!!! So it makes the scene feel more realistic, and her character overall more realistic too.
    Secondly, the dos oruguitas scene made me cry so much and it hit me on a personal level, so it made me feel connected to Abuela and understand her actions. That doesn’t mean they’re justified, but it absolutely made me understand her, and if I was in her position there’s a good chance I would end up doing the same thing.

  • Vee
    Vee 3 months ago +22

    Everyone keeps saying that Mirabel doesn't have a gift, but she DOES have a gift. Her gift is to make & keep everyone in the family happy. And her miracle gifts her the whole house, not just one room - in the end, the whole house ends up becoming alive when she "open the door" just like everyone else does when they get their special magical power. And I like to interpret her door disappearing when she was a kid this way too, as the miracle knowing she would take on Abuela's job when she passes away, therefore giving her the entire house. Bonus points, she talks to Casita most out of all characters which makes me believe in this theory even more.
    So Mirabel's gift is keeping the family happy, feel loved and heard. She's going to have Abuela's job one day

  • Sage Bauland
    Sage Bauland 3 months ago +19

    we don’t talk about Bruno is an interesting ‘villain’ song
    Not just because he isn’t even really the villain of the film but because he isn’t singing it - it’s just an ensemble piece about what everyone else thinks about him and how he is externally perceived compared to most classic villain songs that really go into the internal motivation and mentality of the villain

  • Baykush
    Baykush 3 months ago +3385

    As a Colombian, I have to say that I will always be amazed at how they made Abuela's story INCREDIBLY relevant to Colombia while keeping it relatable and digestible for foreigners. Colombia has a LONG history of civil war and armed conflict that has spawned for pretty much all of the 20th century and into the 21st century, and while I can't possibly get into details here it doesn't really matter, because Abuela works as a representation of the millions of victims it has left throughout, since the result is the same: People in small rural communities being forced to flee and leave everything behind, the men either fleeing or being killed /taken leaving the women alone to take care not only of children but also become the matriarchs of entire communities without having proper time to process their trauma, etc. It's a kind of multi-generational trauma that has transcended into a cultural and national trauma, and the consequences it has had are very-well encapsulated in the microcosm of the family and the movie.
    Colombia is the country with the highest number of "internal refugees" aka "desplazados" in the world, everywhere you look you can find someone with a family history similar to Alma, lots of them not lucky enough to get a "miracle". The fact that they chose to include that in the film, more than all the spot-on cultural references, shows me that they really sat down and listened to the everyday people when they came to do their research trip. Most if not all Hollywood portrayals of Colombian violence focus on a glorified version of the perpetrators, I'm glad that for once they focused on the victims.

    • Matias Cardona
      Matias Cardona 3 months ago +1

      @NinjaBearFilms The modern colombian civil wars (The 1000 days war, "la violencia" and "el conflicto armado")

    • Alena Zwiep
      Alena Zwiep 3 months ago +1

      @Jorge Arismendi YES it was so perfect!!! Usually any time a movie is made in the States about anywhere in South America, I'm so very disappointed about half the "local" things being distinctly Mexican. Finally someone did research and got it right!

    • Jorge Arismendi
      Jorge Arismendi 3 months ago

      I know as a Colombian from barranquilla and hearing that tune after the party resumes is fantastic and can’t be believe they handle the culture of colombia

    • Spacepuppy
      Spacepuppy 3 months ago +7

      And then people ignore all this and talk about the characters sexuality and gender and ruin the main point of the movie

    • Vicente Matías
      Vicente Matías 3 months ago +2

      Not to undermine the colombian experience, but to add to it: this feels very true to latinos in general. It's always a civil war, or a coup'd'etat, a revolution, terrorist factions, a dictatorship; it really speaks to all latinoamericans, because most of us have either suffered it or are second generation to the trauma. It speaks volumes of how, in an ironic way for something so dark, our pain really connects us. It's a sad but powerful bond we as a people share.

  • Wait Wat
    Wait Wat 3 months ago +31

    personally, i think encanto is the closest thing we currently have to a perfect movie. simply put, as you said, all flaws are not only minor but debatable, i personally saw most of the flaws not as problems but as well thought out moments. i dont think abuela needed her familys struggles to be spelled out, i think she knew long before mirabel said anything that they were barely being held together. i think she was trying to keep them together, but didnt quite realize or connect that her actions was what was driving everyone apart. she thought she was helping, because she knew there was a problem. she just had the wrong idea of what the solution to that problem was, due to her own deepset fears, anxiety, and pressure. she was a mom who lost *everything* and had to build it back up from the bottom, and she focused on the wrong issues. mirabel pointing out what the real struggles were was simply a slap in the face to point her attention to the real problem and what the family actually needed
    i could go on about the other points, but frankly id simply be regurgitating what you already brought up concerning them. except the brunos tower scene, i liked most of it though i do agree the tower collapsing in the way it did was incredibly unnecessary, i love the idea that his tower has become battered and destoryed because brunos place in the family has become battered and destoryed, and barely hanging on. i see the rooms as the characters places in the family, connected to where they fit in. isabela is perfect, like her perfect room. mirabel is the connection, the glue the family needs, so her room *is* the casita etc etc
    tl;dr i think that due to the outstanding good points (the animation is a well mentioned but worthy of praise part in particular, as it is absolutely stunning in every single second of the movie) being so strong, and the potential flaws being little more then debatable points instead of obvious flaws and problems, means that encanto is essentially what perfection in a movie looks like, without actually being perfection (as you said, no movie is without flaws entirely)

  • xPearl_Heartx
    xPearl_Heartx 3 months ago +7

    Something I think people don’t address enough in animated films is what I like to call: cartoonish realism. In that, it’s still obviously animated and cartoonish, but you could easily see this being how real life actually looked, even if it doesn’t. There’s a scale on how much realism vs Cartoon people like, but this film is a great example for me.

  • keyaunna
    keyaunna 3 months ago +22

    i’m autistic and heavily related to dolores’ sensory issues with loud noises. i loved her character so much and related to her not being able to tone out sounds.

  • The Comintern
    The Comintern 3 months ago +25

    It's pretty hilarious how the thing i noticed through the entire movie was that all their powers aren't special e.i Bruno could have already predicted the future due to his foresight and thinking about his family the miracle just allowed him to visualise it. The endpoint to me is that all their miracles are already parts of their personalities and that the magic is a metaphor for Alma due to being the stereotypical matriarch denying the real and personal abilities of her children in favour of explaining them as gifts from her husbands death.

    • Nicolás Fernández
      Nicolás Fernández 3 months ago +2

      Yup, that's mostly what's behind realismo mágico, an exaggerated version of something rooted in reality

  • Paul Hanson
    Paul Hanson 3 months ago +2209

    This is 100% headcanon, but considering that Luisa can tone down her strength to hug Mirabel and Pepa can control the weather if she can get the right headspace, it's probably fair to say that Dolores can change how sensitive her hearing is. Especially, considering, she lives in a family involving two married couples that clearly love each other and *haven't stopped having kids* for nearly twenty years straight.

    • Florian
      Florian 2 months ago

      @Black Rose Ewwwwwww!

    • Mateus Henrique
      Mateus Henrique 3 months ago

      H6um

    • L Davenport
      L Davenport 3 months ago

      i think word of god said her room is also soundproof

    • Just a Penguin
      Just a Penguin 3 months ago +2

      But Pepa’s powers are based off of her emotions, thus being calm would allow her to control them.
      And Luisa has the strength to lift churches but doesn’t always have to, like you would gently hold a small animal she gently held Mirabel.

    • baby Mello
      baby Mello 3 months ago

      @Black Rose that is messed up...

  • Rose Hannaquist
    Rose Hannaquist 3 months ago +5

    I actually saw the "Mirabel racing to retrieve the candle" as one of the key moments of Abuela's realization of what she's done to this family. She, and the rest of the family, have revolved around the survival of the magic so much more than the survival of the family members, that Mirabel puts her own life in danger to save it rather than herself. That I thought was what really put Mirabel's words to her about "what's wrong with this family is you" into perspective and led to the happy ending.

  • Debz Baumaus
    Debz Baumaus 3 months ago +5

    The sad thing about Bruno's room is that its relevance was only made explicitly obvious through the director's tweets. Remember that the door was once in the hallway like all others! Bruno's room was once fairly normal and way smaller, the cave immediately accesible. Its transformation into what Mirabel found was a direct reflection of his relationship to the family, his physical distance and the way the others emotionally distanced themselves from him, and the significance that the first cracks that actually remained in Casita started in his vision cave says a lot, too. He was the first big fracture in the Madrigal home.

  • Kikakowia
    Kikakowia 3 months ago +8

    I think the best part of Tía Pepa’s gift would probably be that it ensured that she’d get to marry someone who made her happy, and not end up in a situation like Isabela. Maybe not enough to compensate for the downsides, but a definite plus.

    • KRiS
      KRiS 3 months ago +4

      And also married to someone who wasn't afraid to put up with her rainy days, just like a real, authentic marriage.

  • GamingSheepy
    GamingSheepy 3 months ago +93

    The whole "thing is not explained" thing is just more proof that channels like CinemaSins ruined people's perception of media.

    • Mai Sage
      Mai Sage 2 months ago +1

      @GamingSheepy I thought the term SJW died out with the 2010s. As you said, people who use it unironically have about as much creativity as a rock.
      But rocks can look pretty, so... the void of space?

    • Mai Sage
      Mai Sage 2 months ago +1

      @Gigachad Cooper Anyone who uses the term SJW as an insult unironically is disqualified from adult conversation.

    • Hanmacx
      Hanmacx 2 months ago +4

      "Maybe her gift is being in denial"
      This child would be awesome at cinema sins *ding*

  • Donniedrako15 E25
    Donniedrako15 E25 3 months ago +2294

    Encanto is one of the most refreshing Disney movies I’ve seen in a while with some of the most unorthodox musical numbers in the show. I think the combination of the bouncy dialogue of the songs combine with the imagery perfectly matching the unique problems the characters face make it very unforgettable.

    • BLICKSLICK
      BLICKSLICK 3 months ago

      @Hex Doll oh well I guess all people have an opinion alright have fun hopefully you guys won't ruin encanto for the millions or billions of people who like it.

    • Hex Doll
      Hex Doll 3 months ago

      @BLICKSLICK I will :lordxtroll:

    • BLICKSLICK
      BLICKSLICK 3 months ago

      @Mario Jerez OK watch some cindarella and have fun with your opinion also almost everyone who watched the movie agreed that its a great movie sadly I don't see anyone back you up sooo it's pretty clear who's writing the opinion and the facts

    • Mario Jerez
      Mario Jerez 3 months ago +1

      @BLICKSLICK just because you enjoy the movie doesn’t mean I did. Sadly
      Ur opinion isn’t a fact too

    • BLICKSLICK
      BLICKSLICK 3 months ago +1

      @Mario Jerez ummm.... I guess people do have different taste
      Whatever, opinions like this is either written by a child who is spoiled as heck to actually see the beauty and meaning in the movie or a middle aged man who can't seem to see what's a bad movie and a good movie. oh well ur opinions fine sadly not a fact😅

  • Fresh off the Hook
    Fresh off the Hook 3 months ago +31

    I think what bothers me the most is that Bruno apologizes, everyone brushes off his apologies, and then no one apologizes to Bruno. There was clearly a problem big enough to make him cut off all contact with his family for years. The community dehumanized him and his entire family encouraged this or was at best complacent. And while Abuela may have been the start of the problem everyone else perpetuated it including Bruno. In the end, the problem was never truly addressed. Furthermore the one scene of Bruno "standing up for himself" is him trying to take the blame for things he did not cause... not to mention this scene is played as a joke.

    • Sparkletta!
      Sparkletta! 3 months ago +4

      That aspect is kind of true...we never do see any onscreen apology from the rest of the family’s side. We could’ve atleast got an apology from Abuela, who pretty much just hugs Bruno, and that’s that.

    • Kristine Weber
      Kristine Weber 3 months ago +4

      I'm disturbed by the fact that Dolores KNEW HE WAS THERE and just accepted that now Tio Bruno lives inside the walls - or accepted that there was nobody she felt safe telling about that. Although I would think that Mirabel's mother would be a good person to confide in. Maybe she realized he didn't want to talk to anyone, but it's still creepy and weird that he was spying on his own family through the peepholes, unable to join, too scared to make himself known. This was a truly abnormal situation and they just passed over all the pain it must have caused both Bruno and the niece who never dared to tell what she heard.

  • xXAngie TrixX
    xXAngie TrixX 3 months ago +6

    “Some people : I can’t believe they forgave the grandmother, she didn’t really apologize!
    People from Latin families: Holy §h!t abuela shared her trauma and acknowledged she shouldn’t put that on her kids and grandkids, this movie really is about miracles!”
    That had me laughing my butt off since I from a Latin family 😂

  • Blasecube
    Blasecube 3 months ago +45

    I'm going to pay devil's advocate and say that Bruno's Room scene is actually quite esential to the plot, and even shorting it out might have been a bad choice. So now it's theory time:
    While "We don't tak about bruno" talks about how the Family perceives Bruno, the Room scene shows us how isolated he already felt from the family, which in the end led up to his Hiding. The Really long stairs made him harder to reach (Even if he didn't wanted to), and the flooding sand scene actually represent how Bruno felt once he had Mirabel's visión, destroying (Metaforically) his ability to see the future, just like she breaks when she the vision was about her. This is supported by the fact he didn't wanted to make another prediction in the first place.
    It's important to remember that in Bruno's eyes, his visions damaged the family, and seeing that this one would definitely haunt Mirabel, he took the choice of leaving behind his powers (The first one to loose his powers in the family due to Abuela's pressure). I also want to add that while sand is obviously a predominant theme for bruno due to the hourgalss, a dusty room is usually related to negletion and abandonment, which is how the family treated him due to his gift. That's what makes the scene with his wall room all the more impressive, as it reflects that, in his eyes, not having his gift would get him closer to his family.
    I also want to point out something I just noticed while writting this: Casita knew, and I think that furthers the theory that Mirabel's gift was family and the house, since the reason bruno left in the first place was to protect her (As the new caretaker), and the casita response was giving him another (more "normal") room, with a door that frankly had no reason to be there and seems kinda hard to believe he could have installed it without anyone (With the exception of Dolores that already knew).

  • SnakesandKitties
    SnakesandKitties 3 months ago +10

    i always thought the narrative purpose of Bruno's room was that Bruno arranged his room to protect the vision of Mirabel! Like he broke the vision slate, and perhaps rearranged his room to be hazardous but not exactly "deadly" as to not kill a curious family member. But Mirabel is so determined she just powers through the defenses

  • dormanius
    dormanius 3 months ago +13

    I always tought that Doloeres didn't say anything about Bruno living in the walls, because everyone around her kept telling her not to talk about Bruno

  • Dwok The Rayne Jonsohn
    Dwok The Rayne Jonsohn 3 months ago +5

    I always thought that Isabela's problem with Mirabel is that Isa is always trying to uphold the family perfection and Mirabel gets in the way of it, essentially making everyone "look bad" and undo their hard work of perfection

  • triccele
    triccele 3 months ago +12

    About the Abuela part at the end... you know what would have been awesome? If instead of yelling or fighting with the abuela, everyone sang a slower, sadder reprise of "the family Madrigal" were they spoke how much they were hurting.

    • Atlas191
      Atlas191 2 months ago +2

      That would be great, my idea for that scene would be something like "Your Fault" from Into The Woods, with every family member getting a line about how they feel pressured by Abuela's expectations, building up to everyone all singing at the same time, louder and louder, until they get interrupted by the house breaking

  • Babbiddy
    Babbiddy 3 months ago +8

    I also think Bruno’s room scene makes sense, because we needed a reason why no one had found Bruno’s last vision

  • obed hernandez
    obed hernandez 3 months ago +732

    I actually DO believe that mirabel and Casita are way closer to each other because of mirabel permanent stay in the nursery.
    From the very first scene of the movie we can see that Casita can influence every built in feature within mirabel's room; later we also learn that said influence ends just in front of the magic doors.
    I can imagine that this constant cohabitation is what make Casita just DO stuff for mirabel without her constantly giving commands like abuela does.

    • Kristine Weber
      Kristine Weber 3 months ago +1

      @Alyssa Hopper I think he wanted it to go away, so Casita stopped repairing it.

    • Alyssa Hopper
      Alyssa Hopper 3 months ago +10

      according to Jared bush, if I remember correctly, casita can influence other rooms. The only reason it couldn't influence bruno's room was because he abandoned it, hence why it fell into disrepair.

    • Aze
      Aze 3 months ago +72

      Casita helps other family members throughout the movie (acting as a treadmill for Luisa, giving Dolores steps during We Don't Talk About Bruno, everything during Antonio's ceremony, breaking Camilo and Isabela's fall when the house is collapsing, etc.) but Mirabel is the only one who talks to Casita, aside from Abuela. Presumably, only Mirabel and Abuela, having non-magical rooms, can interact with Casita all the time, so the house probably knows them better than everyone else.

    • oddish
      oddish  3 months ago +110

      Agreed! I can picture Casita being there to comfort her after she hadn't received her gift, or being her only playmate before Antonio was born (because the rest of the family was busy).

  • Ukulele Lady
    Ukulele Lady 3 months ago +6

    I really liked the Bruno's room sequence. In hindsight, I understand that it probably throws off the movie's pacing, but I think it heightens the suspense of the mystery. (I've only seen the film once. I'll probably watch it several more times.)
    Also, I think the point of the scene where Mirabel goes to try to rescue the candle as the house collapses is far more meaningful than just "we need an action scene here". She and some of the other family members are trying to save the magic because they've internalized the message that Alma has unintentionally ingrained in them all their lives: that it's the magic, not the people, that make the family. They think that the candle is more important than their own safety. And the house itself - the magic itself - is the family member that tries to save them even as it's dying. The house spends its last moment protecting the giftless Mirabel - because it understands what Alma needs to understand.

  • EmberFlower
    EmberFlower 3 months ago +13

    16:36 Yea, I'm from family that's culturally the same when it comes to the elders and I had the same thoughts. If only old people were capable of seeing past their pride like Abuela did, the world would be a much better place. There's no need to punish anyone here.

  • Werty
    Werty 3 months ago +19

    Im just gonna put my thoughts here, but i think that the cracks forming was because of the loss of faith, mainly from Mirabel, you can see how in the crumbling scenes it is usually when something is wrong with her feelings, and finally at the last bit where it collapses all of the way since the Abuela Alma is yelling at her for messing with Isabela, in the end when she comes back she has faith again, and getting the magic back when the door is opened.

  •  JOANIE LEWIS AND SHE IS NOT STEALING ART ANYMOR

    i think the one most telling parts of this song was isablelle part the way it was delivered was like it was sopposed to good news but when you take it in contest with the other prophecy i think everyone else is singing about you relize that she singing about something hasnt happend yet you know which further implies that getting married isnt what isabella actually wanted

  • Noah Lucas
    Noah Lucas 3 months ago +1200

    As someone with ADHD, being able to constantly hear everything would be a literal nightmare.

    • GayBot
      GayBot 3 months ago

      Same, I'm autistic and have misophonia (obviously not faking it to starve my family).

    • MoonstonesAndMangoes
      MoonstonesAndMangoes 3 months ago

      adhder here, it would be just. torture

    • hasan muttaqin
      hasan muttaqin 3 months ago

      @AmatMiguel nooo.... noooo, nooooo

    • Phoebe Siems
      Phoebe Siems 3 months ago

      autistic here and feel the same way!!
      i found out recently that dolores DOES have some control of what she does and doesn’t hear! she can tune things out and tune in on things, but can’t control what she overhears. also her room has some soundproofing that helps a little too!
      (i learned this from the ms mojo video about answered encanto questions, they show which film member confirmed each fact and where)

    • BOHEMIAN
      BOHEMIAN 3 months ago

      Agreed adhd is something

  • Primadonna
    Primadonna 3 months ago +9

    I think one of my biggest gripes with the movie was the fight scene between mirabel and her grandmother. we had seen the family being somewhat hostile twords mirabel at times. and we have heard about the issues the grandmother is causing. But the rest of the family seems to have fairly good relationships. It would have been interesting to see the pressure they were being put under making them lash out at each other. I think the fight scene would have been a lot better if mirabel or the grandmother said something that would set another family member off. And like dominos it would descend into a family wide fight. Them only stopping when the house falls apart. it would literally and metaphorically show the cracks in the family surfacing but also show the effect the grandmother has had on her family. I also think it would make them coming together to rebuild the house at the end, and them saying they see mirabel and all shes done a lot more satisfying. That being said the movie is still wonderful and I still enjoy every bit of it.

    • Atlas191
      Atlas191 2 months ago +3

      My idea for that scene would be something like "Your Fault" from Into The Woods, with every family member getting a line about how they feel pressured by Abuela's expectations, building up to everyone all singing at the same time, louder and louder, until they get interrupted by the house breaking.

  • DragonTamerRi
    DragonTamerRi 3 months ago +6

    I adore Encanto. I wish the movie had allowed itself a little more time.
    Something I found funny were the moments that broke the suspension of disbelief for people.
    As someone who worked at a stable pre Covid the donkeys and that horse Bruno rode to meet Abuela and Mirabel were my moments. All those donkeys being perfectly docile as Luisa threw them was my first “Nope. No way.” Mirabel, Abuela, and Bruno all squeezing on to Bruno’s horse and riding completely bareback was the next one.
    Completely optional random stable hand ranting below.
    (Do not do that. Don’t ever do that. Riding bareback isn’t good for the horse. And if this were not a Disney movie that horse would have thrown all three of them and kicked at least one of them for trying that stunt. Horses are animals not family vehicles.)

    • Locomotivation
      Locomotivation 3 months ago +3

      For the donkeys, I think they were sort of used to this. Like picking up a cat over and over, eventually it gets used to you picking it up and throws less of a fuss about it. Which sort of brings me to a moment of laughter when Luisa began her song.
      The donkeys... BACKED AWAY.
      They must've known what was going to happen because either they know when she's angry and know that not even they can stop her, or even better, she's done this with the donkeys as a way of just letting out frustrations (Like how someone would let out their gripes to a pet, a living thing that can't understand what you're saying).
      "Oh dear, she's doing the song again." "Hopefully we can escape before she- oh, nevermind."

  • Aubrey
    Aubrey 3 months ago +8

    This felt like a stage musical, and I think that expanding it to 2.5-3 hours (stage "feature length") would give the needed time to explore the rest of the family. "Encanto" could be the next great Disney Broadway installment.

  • Jetpack Blues
    Jetpack Blues 3 months ago +6

    Honestly my only complains are that the movie is a bit too short and that Luisa's song part happens too early. The rest is absolutely fantastic

  • Animagician
    Animagician 3 months ago +5037

    I'd go so far as to say the "ch, ch, ch" from Dolores' part *alone* is more pleasing to the ear than a lot of modern movie songs

    • Alex Soccer
      Alex Soccer 2 months ago

      What are you doing here all thing mcc guy

    • Illuminati
      Illuminati 3 months ago

      Right! I rewinded that part like 8 times lol, that and the "married in a hurricane" part

    • Picture Perfect
      Picture Perfect 3 months ago

      i personally will make a meme out of the end part of “we dont talk about bruno.” just saying “contentious jibrish.”

    • solar
      solar 3 months ago

      It's not ch it's more of a tss tss tss

    • The Serpent
      The Serpent 3 months ago +1

      @TheMultiGamer If a series is made, he deserves a whole episode to flesh him out. He has the potential to become an S tier character IMO.

  • BigMloveskairi
    BigMloveskairi 3 months ago +2

    I just wanted to add: some lingering questions are questions that the family likely have at the end, too. Why Mirabel didn't get a gift, for example. None of the family members know this and to be fair, this doesn't really matter in the end. I think that they leave certain things vague or don't answer them at all makes this movie a great one: it doesn't spell everything out for you and encourages you to think about your own dynamics in your family and how trauma and expectations affect them.

  • SecretTruce
    SecretTruce 3 months ago +6

    If Encanto gets a series, I think it would be really cool as a way to see through the eyes of each family member, and try out the "unreliable narrator" trope if each episode was how each family member sees their family. We'd get to see everyone's room for a start, and we'd also get to see how each person sees the rest of their family and how they perceived events in their day to day. Cementing the "unreliable narrator" trope would be if we saw some of the same scenes every once in a while where they played out slightly differently depending on who's episode were watching, and how their perception changed how they understand their family members and their actions.

  • CSEmber
    CSEmber 3 months ago +2

    I have a theory about the "He told me that the life of my dreams would be promised and someday be mine. He told me that my power would grow like the grapes that thrive on the vine" line in the song. It feels a lot like that line is very telling.
    First off - This was the life of her dreams, the life that was promised... and was likely promised when she was very young and probably in her 'princess' phase. Bruno would have likely softened the vision slightly if it went on to say that "But it won't make you happy until you give it up"
    Secondly - Her mention of 'grapes on the vine' is interesting to me. Grapes on the vine are not exactly all that desirable. They haven't been made into anything yet, and if we assume they're in wine country, which at least some part of mexico does grow a LOT of grapes... wine grapes are BITTER.
    They don't taste good. People expect them to taste good, because they're grapes, but let me tell you if someone gives you grapes and doesn't tell you that they're not supermarket grapes, it is a DISAPPOINTMENT
    BUT the are full of potential, and that potential is only released when they are removed from the vine.
    Thirdly - This is said directly after all these negative predictions that Bruno made.
    Sure, it could (and was probably meant to be) read as "Oh but I'm so perfect that even Bruno couldn't find anything bad to say about my future... but I think that it's more likely Isabella saying "This is not what I wanted either."

  • Julie Miller
    Julie Miller 3 months ago +9

    What would've been cool is if they had somehow worked a mashup of What Else Can I Do, Surface Pressure, and Waiting on a Miracle into the family fight scene, which then leads up to the house break. Would've made the chaos of the family stick out more.

    • Soaps
      Soaps 2 months ago +1

      Wonder how that would sound

  • thewitchbasket
    thewitchbasket 3 months ago +2

    When I say that this movie is a 7 out of 10, people look at me like I'm crazy. It's a cute movie with some fun characters and songs. My main issues with this film have to do with pacing, integration of music, and plot contrivances. You can kind of tell that there were a lot of major rewrites as you watch it. And I say that as someone who's seen the movie 3 times. I liked it, and maybe I'll watch it again in a couple years when I'm feeling nostalgic. Not a life-changing movie, but not a bad one either. Something I noticed when I was talking with my roommate about it was that it shares a lot of narrative similarities to Coco. Protagonist who is different from the rest of their family accidentally causes generational trauma to resurface, and by talking to their family and uncovering previously unknown information, they're able to heal the generational trauma.

  • Timothy Carney
    Timothy Carney 3 months ago +9

    My first gripe about encanto, is that I wish is was longer. Too much focus could have made some characters tiresome, but a bit more time to space out events and give more character moments would have been appreciated, fleshing out the various family member's interactions by giving them more time to bounce off each other. That is my second gripe, so many great characters and I wish we got to see them interact more, we could have gotten hints at other family' member's burdens, and fleshing them out by showing how they are burdened. The shapeshifting boy could have a mirror to Mirabel's issues, in that he does basically help just by doing chores, and his joking hides a worry that he isn't that helpful- Mirabel's mom could be worried about her kids, or about helping them, does she feel bad because she can't help mirabel, does she notice the friction between isabel and mirabel? Maybe she doesn't, spending a lot of time cooking so she can heal people and thus doesn't spend enough time with her daughters to see these issues? I like the idea about more yelling at abuela, but to counter the mirabel arguement, maybe have more of the family there, and some back and forth before Abuela shuts them down, and then mirabel Stands up to her- and post- casita breaking apart, we give a little time before they notice mirabel is missing (which could tie into the potential idea for her mom earlier) and have some freakouts, people searching through the rubble, reacting to not having powers- I could see the weather controling aunt torn from being really upset, and paradoxically happy that she can be upset withought it being dangerous- Basically instead of more "comupance" for Abuela, have more evidence of the pressure she is putting on the family, and then have her see it clearly afterwards, make it clear that she now SEES how she was hurting her family, and it looks like it was too late.
    Though I think it is pretty telling that overall my issues boil down to, I want more of this good thing.

    • hm x
      hm x 2 months ago

      It's the same for a lot of these movies that have incredible concepts and worlds that ultimately could not be fully fleshed out in their short runtime. I feel the same way about this movie and Tenet, in that a follow-up to the movie in the form of a TV series that can develop the world and its characters and their dynamics fully would be perfect.

  • Mel Free
    Mel Free 3 months ago +2

    Encanto is the first Disney movie I’ve watched in over 10 years that I genuinely enjoyed. On my first watch I was kind of disappointed that everyone got their gifts back at the end, but on my second watch, it made sense narratively and I was fine with it. I love the songs, and so do my kids, and we listen all the time.

  • Benjamin Fenty
    Benjamin Fenty 3 months ago +3

    I just saw Encanto today. I thought it was good, though I think the relationship between Mirabel and Isabella could've been stronger and as much as I like Mirabel as a character, I relate to Luisa more due to her struggle with anxiety. Regardless of my criticisms though, I'm so glad it's being celebrated by so many people and it definitely earned its Oscar nomination.

  • KiwiNinjaBlast
    KiwiNinjaBlast 3 months ago +2314

    I’d argue that the rest of the Madrigals not getting their gifts back would undercut the point that Mirabel is special without a Gift the same way that her receiving one would. It kind of implies that Mirabel IS just as special as the rest of her family… but only when they’re cut down to the same level as her.

    • MicroCosmic45
      MicroCosmic45 3 months ago +1

      How about Bruno? His power is “acting” so he doesn’t have a power

    • R2
      R2 3 months ago +2

      adding onto this, i always saw the candle/the existence of the magic simply being a metaphor for the family's stability. throughout the film, the perspective on what makes the family stable ("keeping the candle intact") is the one that's constantly in question. Alma believes that her husband's death only had one meaningful consequence, the individual magical gifts that they have, that they use to help everybody. Mirabel challenges this perspective - she helps Alma understand that Pedro's death wasn't just for the gifts itself; the generations of family Alma (admittedly rigidly) raised for years, the community they helped foster for half a century, is the true evidence that Pedro's death wasn't in vain.
      by the end, Mirabel has helped mostly everyone come to terms with their own humanity and their truest selves, which is why the magical gifts are back, because the family is stable once more.

    • Socron Gaelith
      Socron Gaelith 3 months ago +2

      @Those BloodyBadgers The thing is, if their powers vanished, they would simply be another part of the community, and that whole relationship wouldn't exist. And while yes, the community did rely on the madrigals a lot, the madrigals *are* very capable. And so the message is that we shouldn't assume that being more capable is the same as being able to do anything.
      Also, we still have the issue that it would insinuate that people can only be special when everyone is on the same level.

    • Viola Lover
      Viola Lover 3 months ago +12

      Just speaking personally, I saw Mirabel's lack of gift as a parallel for disability--she literally lacks abilities the rest of the family has. When viewing through that lens, there's something beautiful about an ending where Mirabel is valued exactly the way she is, as is everyone else in the family.

    • Honeydoomelon11
      Honeydoomelon11 3 months ago +52

      @Nicholas Nguyen I think they did deserve their magic back. The problem wasn't the magic, it was Abuela's expectations and the strain she put on her family. The magic had to be stripped away for her to realize that, and since she did, it came back and began to feel like a miracle again instead of a curse. Also, the entire town kind of relies on that magic. The entire town was destroyed, but all of them came together to only build the Madrigals' house. Doing so rebuilt whole town. The ending really comes down to personal preference, I guess. I prefer that they got their magic back, and I was happy about it.

  • Teag Brohman
    Teag Brohman 3 months ago +3

    I would've gone for a more bittersweet ending
    i.e. the family is mended and their (non sentient) house is rebuilt, but they don't get their gifts back, putting everyone on Mirabel's level. But they are still stronger as a family.

  • D R
    D R 3 months ago +3

    My impression (and rational) for Brunos room is that it acts as a quarry to help Bruno (and his acted personas) fix the house. Where limestone and rock can be mined, And the sand "waterfall" at the start is a easy way to fill a bucket with sand. Sand for construction is a resource people irl steal.

  • Yanxia Wu
    Yanxia Wu 3 months ago +7

    In the beginning, the house was abuela's because the house was created by her. But at the end the house came back when Mirabel put the doorknob in, so doesn't that mean that the house is hers now?

  • Caleb M Curby
    Caleb M Curby 3 months ago +2

    Hot take: I just watched Encanto, loved it, and agree that it's bursting with so much character it's hard to contain and could easily get a sequel, but.... I... don't think I want one. I have questions about the possibilities of how each of their lives might go, and... I don't want a studio putting one answer on those questions. Except for Bruno. We better get a movie or series out of him. Anyway, rant over.

  • Tevani Stuff
    Tevani Stuff 3 months ago +8

    I think the reason that she did not get her powers was the trouble the family had with Bruno. Its mentioned that Bruno left the night that she was supposed to get her gift, and seeing as later in the movie its family division that takes the magic away and kills the flame, its reasonable to assume that it was the same thing that caused it to do so back then.

    • Nicolás Fernández
      Nicolás Fernández 3 months ago

      Yes, if the magic is actually sentient. It makes sense it choose not to give her a power, so she could one day therapy her family

  • Cyaneideness _
    Cyaneideness _ 3 months ago +3

    I do want more of Encanto, and I’m pretty sure we all do, but I’m also scared we might just get a poopy sequel.
    I really hope they won’t try making another movie. A series would fit way better.

  • BenJoe72
    BenJoe72 3 months ago +1

    16:53
    I also think this is kind of emphasizes the theory part that this is about Mirabel taking over the family leadership (once Alma is gone). She leads the first of a new "generation" (they're cousins, but he's the first after Mirabel's non-magical ceremony) of magic users to their door. Then she helps each family member face and express their own issues, then she presents all of the family's grudges and stands up FOR them so they don't have to carry the burden of having to deal with that on top of having to deal with their own internal struggles. Obviously this puts more strain on Mirabel but this is kind of the definition of a leader and it shows that she will be a good one when the time comes.
    Also the scene with Mirabel going for the candle is also a show of kind of a self-sacrifice (almost literally). Because she has nothing to do with the candle. The candle betrayed her and she shouldn't care less whether the candle exists or not. She's not saving the candle for herself, she's saving it because that's her purpose, to save the family.

  • Razain666
    Razain666 3 months ago +13

    As a kid in a broken household me and my siblings watched this twice in theaters. It just hit so close to home and honestly is one of my favorites

  • Julia Elliott
    Julia Elliott 3 months ago +908

    The movie had a lot of pacing issues in the second act, but i genuinely loved it and cried super hard when I watched it. If it could get a show like tangled and expand on the story and world building that would be awesome!

    • Thomas Walder
      Thomas Walder 3 months ago

      As long as it's well done. Otherwise, it risks undermining what was a fantastic movie. Sometimes, you get too many answers to things better left mysterious, and that detracts from re-watches of the original movie.

    • Rosy H Video
      Rosy H Video 3 months ago +1

      Yea

    • Ksana G
      Ksana G 3 months ago +17

      Oh, and I think it would be a great musical theatre show

    • Taj Klair
      Taj Klair 3 months ago +1

      Same

    • KittyLover Aaliyah 2
      KittyLover Aaliyah 2 3 months ago +35

      I agree with you. I totally want a TV series, so we can get to learn about the characters more.

  • BenJoe72
    BenJoe72 3 months ago +2

    Also also, can we talk about Bruno's false prophecy?
    "He told me that the man of my dreams will be just out of reach, married to another" but at the end Dolores ends up with that doof. Did Bruno's gift come back at the end or did he only see up until the point where the magic died (after the proposal), then it served its purpose of bringing the family back together and now it's gone?
    And even if Bruno only saw the future up until the magic's (temporary) end, he should've seen that Isabella isn't betrothed to that guy (whatever his name is). So he still lied!!!
    WHAT'S UP WITH THAT???

    • Zoe Sumra
      Zoe Sumra 2 months ago +1

      I suspect he saw the betrothal dinner but not its aftermath.

  • WaffleAuflauf
    WaffleAuflauf 3 months ago +2

    3:30 While I don't have super hearing, as someone with very good hearing on top of sensory issues, all I can say is she's probably got either very high tolerance, very good at tuning things out, or has a very soundproof room (though if she could hear Louisa's eye twitching at night, it probably isn't all that soundproof lol). All in all, good question bc I know I'd be on the brink of insanity lol

  • Vaughn Hueneke
    Vaughn Hueneke 2 months ago +2

    I loved the movie and my only nitpick came from not having enough time to cover more and or pacing as I remember the pacing was so good until the last (I think) 30 minutes or so as I was expecting the fractured family being the point where we start working our way to the end and then we slammed on the breaks for the fast patching thing up (which was amazing) but then it was just over after that (it’s how it felt even though they did try to wrap it up as good as they could) I feel there is some similarity in theming with turning red and encanto where Red hit the conclusion way better in my opinion as it had a slow acceptance and understanding moment and then solidified the point to there with a bit better pacing. I enjoy both movies for what they give and I love both movies and just really wanted more from encanto. I loved the cast and the true depth of it and am drawn to the inter workings of the universe.

  • Louisa Chalarca
    Louisa Chalarca 3 months ago +2

    Luisa made me feel so seen. I’m Colombian and my names Louisa and I love Colombia and every Colombian just trying to enjoy their lives. I’m glad some privileged people can enjoy some of my culture. I’ve never seen myself in any kids movie and I’m so happy to see another displaced Colombian family. I love everything about my homeland it is beautiful and filled with beautiful people who treat their fellow citizens like family

  • John
    John 3 months ago +403

    One aspect I really liked is how Mirabell and Bruno have a lot in common, the whole family unconsciously pins their problems on them rather than accept reality.

    • bum fricker
      bum fricker 3 months ago +72

      one thing they share is an ability to see things as they are. Bruno sees the future for better or worse, and Mirabel is the only one to notice the problems in her family (first the cracks in the house, then why they exist). This is alluded to in their character design: Bruno's eyes glow green when he's seeing the future, which parallels the green in Mirabel's glasses.
      It's also no wonder they're both outcasts, in a family that's hiding so much pain. One that's so dismissive or afraid of the truth.

  • Yami Smol
    Yami Smol 3 months ago +1

    I’ve watched Encanto so many times, whether myself or watching reactions to the movie. I love the message and the characters but, it didn’t really hit me as of why until I made my dad watch it and during Luisa’s song he just turned to me and said, “This is how you feel, isn’t it?”

  • A man of no reputation
    A man of no reputation 3 months ago +6

    An "adventure" room for Bruno makes perfect sense.
    I haven't seen the movie, so I can't say if it would be incomplete without it, but it certainly fits with his themes.

  • Mahou Kat
    Mahou Kat 3 months ago +1

    I actually went into this movie with zero expectations (I'd seen only a few seconds of the trailer, and it was just the choice of another leader of my youth group) but I felt like any explanations that I could have had were smashed. Also got to watch it on the big screen - amazing!

  • PlagueDoctor
    PlagueDoctor 3 months ago +3

    Your point about Antonio embracing the chance to reconnect with his tío (who he wasn’t even born to meet in person?? Or was just a baby when Bruno fled) compared to Dolores not doing so because the aforementioned family drama and suffering is amazing, like I knew Dolores could have been shushed or given up early on but Antonio immediate response shows that Mirabel “Lets talk about our issues PLEASE” was already making a big impact towards a better outcome even before the movie truly starts

  • Silly Fox
    Silly Fox 3 months ago +7

    The only thing that really annoyed me about the movie was the ending made me feel like there wasn't enough change in the characters I would have really like to see everyone continue to work together than to just get their powers back. It just feels like they taken 5 steps forwards and four steps back there is a certain element of change in characters like Isabela and Mirrabelle but the others not getting their powers would have made the ending a lot more interesting in my opinion.

    • Leila127
      Leila127 3 months ago

      If the Madrigals lost their powers for good, they would never reach their full potential and would send a controversial message.

  • Amy Reynolds
    Amy Reynolds 3 months ago +2

    For me, the fact that they all worked together without their powers and sort of "earned" them back makes the restoration of the gifts at the end really worth it.

  • Hunter Webster
    Hunter Webster 3 months ago +9

    I felt connected to Bruno's character. I deal with anxiety very similarly to Bruno. I create archetypes to cope with situations I don't think I can handle. I worry about issues and details most don't. Ihave trouble socializing with others and I do feel disconnected from people I truly care about, even family.
    Obviously, my issues aren't like Bruno's at all. But there were moments where watching him felt like I was looking in a mirror.

  • An Account
    An Account 3 months ago +2

    This movie really deserves the hype. If any of them, I’m happy it’s this one.

  • Phan Tom
    Phan Tom 3 months ago +1

    I feel like a lot of the “criticism” I thought of, or can see other people think of I just leads to “well, that’s the idea, or the point” which I love

  • krackacka
    krackacka 3 months ago +4

    It would've been nice to see the whole Madrigal family starting to also yell back at Abuela when Mirabel did, but I think this wouldn't've worked. This is because they would've also had to have complained about their emotional stresses and their causes. And while this is perfectly warranted for Isabela and Luisa in particular (leaving Bruno out of this because he only shows up later), Mirabel's cousins, Dolores, and especially Camilo, did not properly get a chance to vent about their problems to Mirabel (with Dolores only talking about her hearing things at night, and Camilo not getting to talk to Mirabel at all). The film would've had to fill in even more development before the climax for Mirabel to have a personal talk to both Dolores and Camilo separately to deserve a whole family backlash against Abuela.

  • Markuris
    Markuris 3 months ago +2

    I think the action in brunos room probably just sets up and builds anticipation on the bruno reveal and his personality as a whole. how chaotic he is while building mystery. Maybe while also getting some action in. I think it fits bruno for being such a chaotic character whos entire plot is about telling people their own future misfortunes. His room is hard to traverse and uninviting, representing how he doesnt want to be found by anyone and would rather hide away.

  • Eiman B
    Eiman B 3 months ago +4

    Can I just say one thing. Pepa, Julieta and Bruno, despite being 50, look AMAZING for their age. Mind you, Pepa's oldest, Dolores, is only 21. Her youngest is 5. Put that into perspective. Just think about that.