The Last Jedi and the 7 Basic Questions of Narrative Drama

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    Far from being the “worst movie ever” Star Wars: The Last Jedi has some solid character work, even in its weaker plotlines. In this video, I take a look at Film Crit Hulk’s 7 Basic Questions of Narrative Drama as a way to examine the character arcs of Rey, Finn and Poe.
    Film Crit Hulk’s essay: birthmoviesdeath.com/2013/07/03/film-crit-hulk-man-of-steel
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    The Seven Questions:
    WHAT DOES THIS CHARACTER WANT?
    WHAT DOES THIS CHARACTER NEED?
    HOW DO THOSE WANTS AND NEEDS CONFLICT WITH EACH OTHER WITHIN THE CHARACTER?
    HOW DO THEY CONFLICT WITH THE OUTSIDE WORLD?
    HOW DO THEY CONFLICT WITH OTHER CHARACTERS?
    HOW DOES THE CHARACTER CHANGE THROUGH THOSE CONFLICTS AND HOW DOES THE RESOLUTION AFFECT THEM?
    WHAT IMPACT DOES THAT CHANGE HAVE ON EVERYONE ELSE?
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  • Just Write
    Just Write  3 months ago +355

    Hey guys! I highly recommend checking out Lessons From The Screenplay's video for more on the writing of The Last Jedi: thexvid.com/video/GYN2Lp9oHMk/video.html

    • Jackson Furlong
      Jackson Furlong 8 days ago

      If you consider this movie an example of good writing, how are we to trust that you know anything about proper writing?

    • Kyle Stillwell
      Kyle Stillwell 23 days ago

      I was actually coming here to make this same suggestion. You guys don't seem to have seen eye to eye on the strength of the Finn plotline or, perhaps not accurately, you're looking at it from different angles. Great from both of you though.

    • Ethan Van Halen
      Ethan Van Halen Month ago +1

      Just Write No watter if it was good writing or not it wasn't written for the fans but for the writers and producers.....enjoy empty theaters

    • Nicolas Javaloyes
      Nicolas Javaloyes Month ago

      7 Basic Questions is kinda "With great power comes great responsibility"

    • B F. M.
      B F. M. 2 months ago +2

      This essay was paid for Disney

  • Bigslam1993
    Bigslam1993 3 hours ago

    Holdo was still a bad military leader and Poe was entirely justified with his mutiny. A General (or Admiral in this case) not telling his/her men what to do is failing to lead by staying silence. The soldiers (or rebels in this case) do not trust an officer who does not tell them what to do and whats at stake. And might be a traitor... this could have been a great story in and of itself, but it was not included.
    Aside from that an Officer not wearing his uniform is just a damn civilian trying to tell soldiers what to do. Officers do not wear dresses on the battlefield.

  • Antonis Mitropoulos
    Antonis Mitropoulos 2 days ago

    So what we take away from this video is that just the fact that a movie ticks all the boxes, doesn't automatically make it a good movie, or for that fact, watchable.

  • Nicolás Flamm
    Nicolás Flamm 2 days ago

    Interesting deconstruction of a not interesting or even entertaining movie.

  • sean rogers
    sean rogers 4 days ago

    Oh, Canada.....Oh, Canadians. Most Canadians not from Alberta I've met are pretty left leaning so I can see why you wouldn't necessarily find Star Wars The Last Whatever offensive to your sensibilities. I like your videos though.

  • SM Casas
    SM Casas 4 days ago

    The huge autocannons are literally trained on the cruiser just as it explodes.
    Finns arc is completely denied Rose. And with the stupidest line in the movie too.
    About 2 hours of the plot could have been omitted if Holdor told them the plan. No rebellion, no Casino, and maybe most importantly: Rebels still alive since the plan would have worked. Not only did she not tell the demoted Poe, apparently she didn't inform any of the other staff. How exactly is that great leadership that inspires trust in such a desperate situation? The ease with which Poe was able to recruit other detractors is not a great sign.
    Brilliant is a bit of a reach if your plot is riddled with holes.

  • Doug Stephens
    Doug Stephens 4 days ago

    Why did Poe "want" to "win the war"? Because he's a warrior? Why? And are we talking about the war that makes no sense between two opposing forces that are so unevenly matched it's almost ridiculous?
    My point here is that, even though it's Star Wars and we're supposed to take some things for granted, like a rebellion and an Empire at war, to use those terms, it still has to make sense and feel like it's got real stakes. This doesn't feel that way. The RJ humor and the incompetence of the warriors on both sides takes the tension out of any supposed feeling of real conflict.
    And nothing is personal for Poe. He's a main character and he's still cardboard, Dudley Do-Right sarcastic sometimes Ace pilot without any family or romantic attachments, Luke/ Han hybrid but without any backstory, any depth. His arc is that he's a hothead who needs to learn to be a leader, really? He displayed some pretty great leadership with excellent payoff in the previous film. No continuity.
    Rey wants external validation from... whom? Not Luke, judging by the way she behaves toward him. From Kylo Ren, the embodiment of evil who murdered his own father and was behind the genocide of untold millions or billions of people on those planets he destroyed? The Resistance? She doesn't really know them. Not Finn. I guess she just wants to find her own way and accept herself...?
    And how does she become an emotionally balanced Jedi? Luke barely trained her, in fact they only had a few talks, basically. And when did she really struggle? Every situation she found herself in, she got herself out of, unscathed. I don't see any growth, really.
    You said something about kylo Ren choosing evil and Rey choosing the light, and that being a main point... Kylo Ren was always evil. Rey may have thought she could save him or get through to him and he was I guess sort of kind towards her, but that never changed who he was. I guess we were supposed to believe that he might change, because I guess Rey thought that. But there was no indication that he was really struggling with what he wanted to do. Maybe for 10 minutes it might have felt it could go that way, but that was about it.
    I won't even get into Luke Skywalker. Suffice to say that we had a beach full of evidence as to who he was and what kind of a character he was, who he was to the core as a person, and then RJ gave us one grain of sand against that beach of evidence that said he was something else. I just didn't buy it. The reason was not reasonable or interesting or compelling enough, by far.
    I don't care what some novelist or fiction teacher came up with, how many rules, no matter how useful they are, if the actor who played that iconic character, the man who is the heart and soul of the fandom in so many ways, if that man does not recognize Luke and cannot tell anyone why Luke gave up, I think that speaks for itself.
    I'm trying to see where this film got anything right, I really am. I have loved Star Wars my whole life and really wanted to like this film, of course! I don't want fanservice or callbacks, that's such a simplistic argument, a straw man that you prop up against your postmodern intellectualizing about the themes and direction you think modern Star Wars fandom and storytelling needs, and I say it's incorrect, sir. But I will say that if the script does indeed answer those seven basic questions, it does it in the most boring and emotionally unsatisfying ways I could imagine. And we're talking about the bare bones clinical narrative look at it. There are little things that are like connective tissue in every story, and these are things like personality, attention to detail, character traits and tics and emotional logic in the narrative that connects the characters to one another and to the adventures they've gone through previously.... and those things are sorely lacking in this film.
    What were the stakes if Poe didn't learn his lesson, complete his arc? He was never in any real personal danger to his self. That the Resistance would be decimated? That happened anyway. And we can't say that the stakes were life-or-death for him or any of the other new main characters, we know that's not going to happen going in.
    What about Finn, and Rose Tico? What would happen if their little mission to Vegas failed? The Resistance would be decimated...(and again, we know THEY'RE not gonna die). That happened anyway. And Phasma came back from the dead for 2 minutes and probably will again. Just silly.
    Rey... went to get trained by Luke, was disappointed, got trained a little bit sort of anyway, return to the resistance and helped out, wasn't that upset that she knew Luke was dead now, and was back to her old self, seemingly. Big whoop.
    I see a lot of defenders of Last Jedi talk about the themes of failure and needing to let go of the past, basically echoing kylo Ren's dialog. And they're talking about theme, not plot, not character, not Story, THEME. And one thing we like to give as constructive criticism in writing class is to let our fellow writers know that their theme is showing. This is not a good thing. You can have strong themes but if the plot and characters and story are not in the foreground with the theme flowing from them and not the other way around, you have not produced great fiction, you've produced propaganda.
    Were there any characters you loved or moments you thought were really great and memorable in this film? I'm talking about the new characters. Was there a scene that made you feel bonded to them, did they become part of your imaginative world in the way Luke, Han, Leia and Chewie did? Do you feel like you know what they're about, what they stand for, what their strengths and weaknesses are? If so, that's great. I never felt the connection.
    I want to keep trying to find the good stuff about this film. Going to look at each new character again to see if I can find more things in their arcs.
    Thank you for your video.

  • Princess Jello
    Princess Jello 4 days ago

    I stilllllll think poe should have saved finn.

  • D Fens
    D Fens 5 days ago

    People sucked the Phantom Menace's dick when it first came out. It was called "bold" and "different" lol. These Last Jedi apologists will come around eventually. This film was a disaster.

  • Desmond Zhang
    Desmond Zhang 5 days ago

    I dont know. I think from the way you try to find personality in these characters in the last jedi..... i could even redo your hobbit videos and say how nicely executed it is

  • Ivan Dario Pinzon D.

    I agree with the part where you said the movie manages to communicate some things pretty well. Maybe if it was a stand alone scifi movie, it would work, but not on a sequel to Star Wars. I disagree with many of your points, especially since these movies should be clear and straightforward, but there is one very important from the beginning: Poe Dameron's recklessness was just introduced so that it could be solved in the end, we're spoon-fed this "leadership" message! This traid of his personality wasn't established in The Force Awakens and it serves no purpose to the story. All of this movie's problems come from similar inconsistencies.

  • Wesley Clemons
    Wesley Clemons 6 days ago

    Grew up watching star wars and playing with darth vader action figures and i like the new direction star wars is going in. I really liked the last jedi. I did not set myself up with expectations before the movie. And people need to just chill and wait until 9 comes out. I am surewhen it does people will see and have there questions answered in the last jedi.

  • Linda Coan
    Linda Coan 6 days ago

    Great video. I loved the film (or at least, most of it), and I loved how it challenged everything I thought about Star wars.

  • Larry Douglas
    Larry Douglas 7 days ago

    I disagree with you, I don't hate The Last Jedi, but I didn't really care for it, for reasons it would take my own video essay the fully explore, but I'd like to talk about a few points. I know a lot of people hated this movie for subverting their expectations, but I went into it without those same expectations and was still disappointed. While I feel like it was a better film for subverting expectations, as opposed to pandering to them, it may not work as well for someone who had no such expectations. After watching the movie, and then learning about the expectations people had for it, it seems clear to me that the narrative was crafted in such a way as to explicitly counter them. An easy example is the focus on Rey's parents, leading to the revelation that they are "nobodies". It's the basis of Rey's entire character arch as you pointed out, and the "reveal" is basically a character saying to camera "[Rey's] parents are nobodies, you have no place in this story" which I thought was a little hamfisted but my real problem is I don't feel like Rey's true objective you called emotional independence was played in a way that made me feel anything. It seems almost like I was supposed to get my feelings from finding out her parents are nobodies. Basically, I wasn't invested in the twist, even though the movie told me to be, and then after it told me not to be invested in the premise it provided, I don't think it provided enough of real substance for me to become truly invested in Rey as a character. I feel like by banking on subverting expectations, the movie fell too hard into playing it straight at first to bolster those expectations (or in my case create them where they didn't exist), and after subversion lacked a backbone that could have been built in the time pre-subversion to build something of real substance upon.
    To briefly mention a few other reasons it didn't really work for me, emotional shifts that were difficult for me to follow and rationalize within the world the movie portrays, behavior that didn't seem to follow from the motivation I perceived, and as a result characters that sometimes felt inconsistent. For an example, when they're wheeling Po by on a stretcher, Admiral Holdo and Leia are talking about how much they like him and his attitude. I had to watch that part again to understand who they were talking about. I assumed it was Po, but it didn't seem to jive at all with the events up until that point before Po became a "better leader" (a difficult concept to portray in a film, and one I feel like this film wasn't particularly successful at).

  • Luke Fabis
    Luke Fabis 8 days ago

    You’re missing the forest for the trees. Just because a story ticks off boxes on a checklist still doesn’t mean it’s a competent story.
    The ultimate litmus test for a story is whether it can get you to suspend your disbelief and help you effortlessly keep it suspended. The fundamental problem of storytelling is that any fictional story is bullshit, and everyone instinctively knows that. In order to be good, a story has to tuck that instinct away, grab your attention, and take you for a ride.
    If any any point, you think, “Damn, that’s stupid,” the story is derailed and it’s a train wreck from there. A story that’s deeply flawed on a technical level can still be a great story if it engages the audience from start to finish and leaves them feeling whatever emotion the story was meant to convey. And a story that flawlessly employs every skill ever taught to literature majors can still be a dry and crusty chore.

  • M.W.P Productions
    M.W.P Productions 8 days ago

    YES I totally agree!!!

  • Rui Lourenço
    Rui Lourenço 8 days ago

    My reaction getting out of the cinema wasn’t one of extreme dislike. I was just feeling confused. I’d quite enjoyed a huge chunk of the movie, but it didn’t feel satisfying in the end.
    Honestly, I think the plot isn’t a problem. A rookie commander that’s too concerned with the chain of command and blunders by not reassuring the crew who basically thinks they’re all going to die. That’s an interesting arch. The reckless crew member that things he needs to do something or everyone will die is anything interesting arch. And everything failing because of the reckless crew member seems like brilliant writing.
    If you just read that synopsis it sounds like it could be a brilliant “behind enemy lines” war movie. There’s nothing wrong with it.
    What’s wrong with this movie is that this conflict isn’t sufficiently explored and hits the wrong emotional beats. This is a heavy story in a childishly humorous movie that doesn’t let the story be sufficiently heavy without undercutting it with a bad joke. No one came out of Empire with a dumb smile on their face, but whomever added those humorous scenes seemed to think they’d like it better if they did.
    I’d fix this movie completely with two story beats. First, I’d add a scene with Holdo speaking with her best friend and confessing she doesn’t really know what she’s doing. The friend says she’s losing the crew and Holdo reaffirms that they’re soldiers, following the chain of command is their purpose. And the friend just says “to their deaths?” To which Holdo replies “Yes.” Now Holdo is a way stronger character and we’ve established that she is a person set in her ways used to working with smaller groups with more inherent trust and thinks this should work with every soldier. The second beat is I’d end the story before the planet, on a down beat. Poe crying that he’s responsible for the death of his friends. Ray crying that Kylo is still evil. Resistance ships being destroyed all around them as they sneak away on the millennium falcon.

  • Raymond Ross
    Raymond Ross 9 days ago

    No amount of lipstick is going to make this pig any more attractive. Sorry, but the storytelling failed miserably in this movie. As a sequel, it was a horrible attempt to continue the saga. As a result, I will only watch spoiler reviews of episode 9. I'm done watching Star Wars.

  • shiko okami
    shiko okami 9 days ago +1

    You are focusing on the idea of, story making the characters do what they do to move the plot. Instead of characters acting within their own ideals. For a ex. Luke is a man who try to save the most evil man cause he saw a little bit of good in him. In this story he tries to kill kylo cause he saw little bit of evil in him. does that make any sense at all. The 7 basic Questions of Narrative Drama thing is "BASIC" So you should be able to do that without making characters do what they would never do. like luke and his sis there's more i wanna say but i type really slow. i would love to debate you on this movie. you seen like a more less reasonable person . for now try listening to this its long but says it better then i can type
    thexvid.com/video/0Mj2KRj_9Mk/video.html
    thexvid.com/video/KVmuWWYEISQ/video.html
    thexvid.com/video/tNoMQSvNAWE/video.html

  • annalivia1308
    annalivia1308 10 days ago

    In fact, the irony here is that fans (in their quest for a proper light saber duel and a trillion suns destroying mega deathstar) miss a big point with Rey: She fails to bring Luke back because she is all about the Force moving rocks and such (which is not really the main idea behind the Force) and does not understand the slightest what Luke is trying to tell her (her idea about bringing him back - by giving him that light saber - is totally lacking any depth), then she leaves on a premature mission to bring back Ben Solo and she fails, here, too - you recall, right after the fight in the throne room she turns around, does not keep eye contact and starts talking shop about the resistance and calling off the attack, taking it for granted she got Ben Solo back. In fact, this is her biggest failure because instead of bringing him back she creates the moment where he kills Snoke thus emptying the spot of the villain which he can now fill. She causes this with her mission where in the end she uses all the wrong levers and pushes him even further to the other side. I found that brilliant.

  • Will Harwood
    Will Harwood 10 days ago

    You find good underlying character arcs in the film, although I doubt the writers fully intended some of it. Doesn't change the fact that the overall execution was severely lacking. Though I did mostly enjoy the Rey/Luke plotline, the others were just terrible. We didn't get to see Finn remotely tempted by the "Don't Join" side of things, so his "Rebel scum" comment just comes off cheesy. Poe was given little reason to trust Haldo in the slightest, and Haldo knowing he's a hothead and telling him to sit in the corner and expect him to do so without any supervision is nonsense. And Rey isn't really tempted by Ben's offering of validation because she knows that means accepting a lot of darkness. Good bones, sloppy skin. Like a bad taxidermy job.

  • Sarah H
    Sarah H 10 days ago

    A jump the shark video - absolute idiot and you should be ashamed.

  • Emmanuel Mondesir
    Emmanuel Mondesir 11 days ago

    Rey was already the most optimistic person in the galaxy. She now learned how to let go of the past and move foward, she accepted that Kylo wont turn good and that they should be a better way for the jedi to exist.

  • effingasshats
    effingasshats 12 days ago

    The Jungian archetypes so carefully explored in the first trilogy were replaced by subtle and not-so-subtle cultural propaganda that insists all patriarchal and therefore toxic symbols of masculinity must be exposed and then removed to make way for Mary Sue's rise to prominence as the new and superior cultural ideal.

  • Beer Chugs
    Beer Chugs 13 days ago

    Not to be attacking but rather interested in the origin, why are these 7 questions are the right questions to be asking? Where did they come from? Crit Hulk or Somewhere else?

  • Brian Russell
    Brian Russell 14 days ago

    I agree that the film's writing is great and that it is the film that the franchise and fandom needed...but for different reasons than you suggested. I felt the "symbolism" in the story was it's strongest aspect..and I'm not meaning the SJW focused symbolism. I could honestly do without that, but it doesn't ruin the new movies for me. The symbolism I speak of is how the characters and story itself represents people and themes within our World. Luke Skywalker represents George Lucas, Rey represents new Star Wars film creators/directors, Kylo represents the angry/unforgiving fanbase, Poe represents the fanbase that feels they could make a better movie, Holdo represents Rian Johnson himself, etc. If the movie is taken at face value and is not as symbolically charged as it is, then I can see why the fans take issue within certain things. However, I feel that they were unable or unwilling to see the similarities many of these characters have with themselves or others is why they were unable to appreciate it as much as we have. I also think that Johnson predicted the fan backlash and represented it symbolically in the the Poe/Holdo storyline. Poe wants to know the plan out of fear that it won't be good enough for their survival. Holdo, keeps the plans from him, knowing that he could likely more problems than he realizes. He actually proves her right by sending Finn and Rose out to "save" them. This ends up backfiring and almost costs all their live. Down the line, when things calm down, Poe comes to realize that Holdo did have a good plan that ensures the resistance Survival and she is willing to and does die in order to make it happen. This is similar to how many fans now feel they could make a better Episode VIII than Johnson did and are trying very hard to make happen. Down the line, once more is revealed to the fanbase in episode IX and beyond, the fanbase may have a better understanding and appreciation to why Johnson did what he did. And Johnson, like Holdo, was willing to fall on the sword to ensure Star Wars can continue on to the next generation of fans.

  • rowdful
    rowdful 14 days ago

    Hmm, I'm not sure but I felt as though the realistic deconstruction of a fantasy, escapist franchise led to some of the magic being lost. This type of endeavour requires a genius and I think the director didn't quite fit the bill.
    Your take has me thinking though, and I appreciate it for that. Myself, I was onboard for half the film and its proposition that the prior state of things (Light Side Jedi vs. Dark Side Sith) was leading to constant galactic turmoil, and that perhaps the new generation would be able to meet somewhere in the middle. Ultimately, the moment where Kylo held out his hand and Rey rejected it seemed to undo everything set up thus far, and the rest of the movie felt like major backtracking to go back to the original status quo.

    • rowdful
      rowdful 10 days ago

      +annalivia1308 oh I see your point, very interesting. So essentially, they may reconcile in the future after further tribulations leading to a better and stronger cathartic ending for episode 9? I really like that. That way once episode 9 ends, that middle ground itself could be the setup for the next trilogy, an exploration of a new group that takes elements from both sides. :)

    • annalivia1308
      annalivia1308 10 days ago +1

      Maybe; but maybe the idea is that more tribulations are needed to really create a better ending/world. At that point in the throne room neither the character of Kylo Ren nor of Rey developed their full potential. But interestingly enough that is the moment were both are pushed to do that. Kylo is now free to become the main villain and Rey, having experienced failure, can proceed on her journey, too. You cannot have that quick and easy solution if you want to create a solution that lasts. (I am using "solution" for lack of a better term, I don't mean to say there is a wondrous solution to each and everything; more in the sense of positive dynamic or development.)

  • Pedro Roscoe
    Pedro Roscoe 14 days ago

    This movie is all rounded bad... the dialogues are bad... rey is bad... finn and poe are wasted... leia flying is hilariously ridiculous... offensive lightspeed is a horrible idea... snoke is wasted... all the new characters are awful... the jokes are bad and totally misplaced... say what you want about the writting checkboxes the script can fill... Writting rules wont change how horrible this movie is overall... Ryan Johnson should never have been allowed to make this movie... ever... the actors are not to blame... the script is unbeliavable...

  • William McCormick
    William McCormick 14 days ago

    The main problem with TLJ is the overarching theme: Heroism is dead. Masculinity is toxic. The people you used to look up to are the ones responsible for the suffering in the world.
    It's a Postmodernist circle jerk, and it made for a horrible, bitter, depressing Star Wars universe.

    • The Fire King
      The Fire King 9 days ago

      That is most definitely _not_ the theme of TLJ. If that's what you got, then you must of been watching a different movie

  • Andrew Marcus
    Andrew Marcus 15 days ago

    This video doesn't even address the absurdity of Luke dying because he ran out of energy trying to boost 4G signal for Skype video chat.

  • Edward Bailey
    Edward Bailey 15 days ago

    Man great video, brought up some new arguments that I havent seen yet

  • Uriel Malváez
    Uriel Malváez 15 days ago

    Wow! After having seen your video essay... I still think the movie sucks! And while I like your videos in general, and learn from them, I believe you are forgetting something essential to this franchise: from the get-go it was a mythology, and as such, it follows the archetypes Joseph Campbell described in ‘The Hero of a Thousand Faces’. None of the characters actually got into the archetypes, as the movie was trying to be subversive and narrate other things. Sure, their wants and needs are there, but it is not enough if you just destroy the myth. And the franchise is so mythological that if you rip that element of it, then it just lacks something, whether fans know it or not. So no, it was not the movie it needed, and Rian Johnson may be a great director, I do not know of any other movie of his, but he does not know how to write myth. That is was is affecting fan reaction and the movie as a whole. One part of the story cannot be myth when the others are. Keep up the good work. Cheers!

  • Craig Jauvtis
    Craig Jauvtis 15 days ago

    Also the bombers at the start going down so easily is lazy writing

  • Craig Jauvtis
    Craig Jauvtis 15 days ago

    Slow speed OJ chase is not good writing. Changing the ways characters act from the first film to fit your narrative is not good writing. They did not make a Star Wars film

  • Deer Fox Boy
    Deer Fox Boy 15 days ago

    The more I watch video essays on the Last Jedi, this one included, just shows me how good Last Jedi really is. It's not perfect in some aspects like theme, but the writing and character development is so good

  • Mariana Mora
    Mariana Mora 15 days ago

    I love watching analysis videos on this movie even though I haven't seen it yet. Even time the person making the video is like "wait before you hate me hear me out!" I'm like "why would i hate you?" and honestly these videos are so good and comprehensive that i still can't be bothered to watch the movie. I'll get to it eventually and when i do i'm probably going to be like "oh that's it? that's what's bothering everyone? How disappointing."

  • Charlie Dawson
    Charlie Dawson 15 days ago

    The Last Jedi is my favourite Star Wars film.

  • Gene Edgerton
    Gene Edgerton 15 days ago

    It’s a matter of WHAT vs HOW. Yes, like you noted, all good stories need to have the essential elements that make it a good story (the what). The Last Jedi, as you noted has this. But a good story also needs the how: How these characters, story arcs, conflicts take place and line up with one another. The Last Jedi is another overly rushed story from Hollywood. No one buys the instant transformations of characters, the rushed story arcs, the sometimes serious and then ironic conflicts. It’s like building a great car but not spending any time in preparing a decent driver. An example is this: If the new story has no ideal (exemplified in characters like Yoda, Obi-Wan, and now Luke) to strive for, you cannot propel the story’s main purpose, and hence, leave the audience exiting the theater with the thought of ‘It was a well-put together story, funny lines, and action» but five minutes later, they do not care anymore about the story. I remember discussing the original Star Wars films for years after they came out because they left they gave us viewers the responsibility to take on this purpose of characters after the films came to an end. It was foolish of them to kill this ideal off in Luke. Now, future Star Wars films will have a very, very hard time rebuilding this ideal because no one, children included, will believe it. They will not buy into the ideal that there is something stable and just to hope for.

  • Talwyn22
    Talwyn22 15 days ago

    Nope - Mary Sues have no wants and needs as their characters are already perfect from the start and we see this plainly manifested by Rey and her ability to be brilliant at anything she turns her hand to. So there's that. In fact all of the characters in this travesty have little to no character arcs at all.
    This film is just bad, plain and simple. Sure it has lovely cinematography and most good special effects but it's narrative, characters and plot structure are just a garbage fire of wasted opportunity. Not convinced? The film bombed so badly in China that it was taken off screens in less than 2 weeks. Why? Because it seems Chinese audiences don't like wasting their money on films that seek to subvert their expectations. And that's a really interesting factor. Disney were hoping that TLJ would make big bucks in China but it flopped so badly that they simply closed it down and ran. And that's bad news for Disney as it is a business and therefore needs to make a profit. The more profit the happier are the shareholders etc. And TLJ, while making over a billion, was down by a significant amount when compared to TFA. And I predict that Episode 9 will struggle to reach a billion now as a significant amount of people are so disenchanted by Star Wars that they just won't bother to see it when it comes out.
    Trying to defend this movie by clever sophistry and use of clever arguments is the equivalent of polishing a turd.

  • hblaub
    hblaub 15 days ago

    Sadly I can't click both buttons: Like for your analysis and making me aware of the seven questions. Dislike for this abomination of a "movie".
    To be "great", the movie should not have this kind of nonsensical and quite stupid decisions and moments in it.
    The military strategy is dumb, the people in Canto Bight are basically caricatures taken out of Harry Potter (which in their universe make at least sense),
    the backstory of the Knights of Ren (or why Kylo or Snoke even matter) is missing, why the First Order is that big AND incompetent at the same time, .....
    Basically for me there was no moment I actually cared for or feared or imagined myself as one of the characters.
    I did not join the rebellion nor the first order. I did not believe Leia, Holdo, Maz Kanata, Rey, or whomever.
    Compare that to Tolkien's work. There are bad guys who are really good in their job (even with traitors and insider knowledge). There are pacifists and impartial peoples.
    Compare it to Shutter Island. There is a seemingly clear plot line which is handled very good.
    Compare it to Memento. Again turns in the plot but in a thrilling kind of way.
    So, TLDR: You can find clear structured (maybe more classical) movies which are way more engaging for the audience.
    And you can find very good thrillers which also subvert the audience's expectations but leave them re-thinking themselves instead of being pissed for assumed to be too dumb.

  • Greg B.
    Greg B. 16 days ago

    A car must have all these 7 things to be good:
    1) A steering wheel
    2) Tires
    3) A battery
    4) An engine
    5) Keys
    6) A gas tank
    7) It must work
    If a car meets all 7 of this criteria then it is a good car, right? My expectations are reasonable, are they not? So I have a car for sale, would you like to buy it? It meets all 7 of these criteria. It will start to fall apart in six months, but hey, it meets all 7 of the criteria.
    Gee, it's almost as if the matter of what makes a good car/story is slightly more complex than that, isn't it? It must be well conceived, all its parts need to work together, and it needs to hold up under scrutiny. Oh, wait..

  • Michirin9801
    Michirin9801 16 days ago

    10:51 And THAT is why I enjoyed the Last Jedi so much when I saw it! It was such a breath of fresh air for the franchise! It was a drastic change to a film series that desperately needed one! Especially after the two (or arguably six) films that came before it, films that, quality not-withstanding, pander almost excessively to a preexisting audience...

  • Michael A. Webermann
    Michael A. Webermann 16 days ago

    The dislike ratio on this is absurd. Someone should be able to hate the movie but still acknowledge that pretty much everything you said here was objectively true.
    Great job. I'm in the "mostly like it" camp and this video helped me understand why I found it so emotionally satisfied even if it also caused me to roll my eyes a lot.

  • Kevin Maryles
    Kevin Maryles 16 days ago

    Interesting video. Very well stated.

  • Ernie Velveeta
    Ernie Velveeta 16 days ago

    "...on which these things are built on..."

  • ussamam1
    ussamam1 16 days ago

    I'm just gonna say it, The Last Jedi is the best Star Wars movie. Easily. And the Disney trilogy have created some of the most compelling characters with Kylo Ren, Rey, Poe, and Finn in the entire franchise

  • liljenborg
    liljenborg 16 days ago

    Let's use those questions on a couple slightly different but connected characters:
    Kathleen Kenedy wanted a story with strong female characters that minimized or pushed male characters into the background where their toxic masculinity (but I repeat myself) wouldn't get in the way. Rian Johnson wanted a Star Wars movie that was more theme driven that broke the series away from it's roots. The producers wanted a movie that would draw in a horde of new fans but ditch the old obsessed crowd that would start an internet firestorm if Chewie pulled the wrong lever in the Falcon cockpit. They wanted a "Star Wars" label would suck in three quarters of a billion dollars just because "Star Wars" was on the movie poster without having to care whether or not it was a Star Wars movie.
    What they needed was to make a movie that recognized it was part of a larger whole. There is a reason people love Star Wars, for some it's the characters, for some it's the adventure, for some it's space fighters dog-fighting or lightsabers dueling. This movie intentionally stomped on all the things people loved about Star Wars because they WANTED to break away from it with the conflicting WANT that people would still like it and plunk down more money to see it again and tell all their friends to go see it, too because it was Star Wars. They needed to realize that the characters people paid ticket money to see, the characters they loved, needed to be the characters they loved, not unrecognizable, grouchy old men squeezing blue milk out of a space boobie just to be intentionally offensive to Rey and the whole audience. They needed to realize the audience went into the theater expecting answers to the questions raised by Force Awakens only to have all those questions sliced in two by a surprise plot twist that left the villain an impotent and incompetent half-corpse on the floor.
    The conflict caused by these warring wants and needs in the larger world turned so many people off the franchise they refused to even give the Solo movie (which I thought was a pretty fun movie) a chance and many life-long fans proclaiming Star Wars dead as a franchise. As to the resolutions of these wants and needs, those are still ahead.
    Now I can see some of what they were trying to do. They needed to renew the franchise, not just re-hash the franchise.
    I like that they wanted to grow Poe from a hot-shot fighter jockey into a real leader. They kill off the whole command staff on the rebel flagship leaving Po one of the highest ranking people left. But, then bring in a character from nowhere who is a brilliant tactical genius as evidenced by her choice of hair color? and that she doesn't trust the only man left on the ship who has leadership experience (which we've actually seen on screen, as reckless as it may be) that most of her now-crew look up to.
    Finn and Rose's story arc could have been a powerful way to make the Star Wars world bigger. But since the only point of the red-herring story arc was to advance Finn's character arc (and not the larger story) a lot of people find the whole sub-plot pointless. (Rich people bad. Slavery bad. So lets not rescue the slaves; we'll rescue the race critters instead, mostly as a diversion for our own escape so we can get back to the fleet and FAIL.) It's made even worse when Finn's character arc leads him from the guy running away to the guy ready to sacrifice his life for the cause (a sacrifice Rose's sister made in act 1, that Admiral purple-hair made at the climax of act 2, that Luke was about to make) has the rug pulled out from under him by miss "We'll win by saving what we love, not by destroying what we hate; even though I just stopped you from saving what you've come to love."
    It's also hard to renew a franchise when you kill off the mysterious, super-evil villain you've just introduced and replace him with a temperamental brat and his stuffed-shirt Colonel Blimp sidekick who can't chase down a group of damaged ships with his big destroyers that have hangar bays full of fast, powerful fighters because his big destroyers are slower than the rebel ship that had it's fighter bay destroyed already (it's too bad he didn't have any small fast ships at hand like the ones he used to destroy that aforementioned hangar bay).
    And then trying to renew the franchise by letting the Jedi die, a point they've already been making very potently in the Star Wars Rebel series, a point they make so forcefully (see what I did there?) by having Yoda make a cameo to burn the ancient Jedi teachings . . . except that, No! Rey actually stole the ancient Jedi books and they're squirreled away aboard the Falcon.
    In other words, as brilliant as the character arcs may be, the actual story of the movie as a whole flounders. The world building is full of contradictions, dropped balls, and loose threads. And they kept stepping on their own themes.

  • Jordan Newsom
    Jordan Newsom 16 days ago

    At 6:49, that is such a cool point that never occurred to me. It's like you just showed me how an amazing magic trick was preformed...except unlike a magic trick reveal, it's even more amazing now! That truly gives me a new perspective and makes me appreciate this story more.

  • Darren Backman
    Darren Backman 16 days ago

    Solid analysis. Thank you. I do disagree however with the word used at 11:05 "Pandering" while showing Rogue One's scene with "Vader". Darth Vader in any way shape or form in a Star Wars movie can never be... pandering!

  • Terrance Hall
    Terrance Hall 16 days ago

    Finn is still a bumbling stereotype.

  • Antonio Strangiato
    Antonio Strangiato 16 days ago

    nope

  • CartooNinja
    CartooNinja 16 days ago

    okay but you're not explaining why contradicting a trilogy spanning character arc and having conflicting themes by the end of the movie makes the movie better,

  • Vegalus
    Vegalus 17 days ago +3

    You underestimate how much Star Wars fans want to be pandered to.

    • D Fens
      D Fens 5 days ago +1

      Yeah but it's easier to just slander the people who disliked the movie so that you can feel more justified in liking it lol.

    • chaoszieg
      chaoszieg 6 days ago +2

      what's funny is how Infinity war also subverted expectations but people love it.
      Difference being one was a well written movie that took care of the characters and respected what came before, and the other was TLJ

  • Paul Davidson
    Paul Davidson 17 days ago

    Brilliant analysis. I think The Last Jedi is the most well-crafted of all the Star Wars films (even if I still like ESB better).

  • Anubis2358
    Anubis2358 18 days ago

    The "your parents were nobodies" monologue from Kylo Ren was probably the most brilliant thing Rian Johnson did in the whole movie because it creates two possible outcomes that are equally interesting for the movies going forward. If Kylo Ren is telling the truth, then we have an instance where someone who isn't part of some great hereditary line must step up to the plate, as well as a fine counterpoint to Kylo's hereditary evil. If Kylo Ren is lying, then this creates a source of possibly interesting drama, as well as a great point of drama for the second act of the next movie. From a metanarrative level it also interacts with other aspects of the movie to critique and point out the stupidity of J. J. Abrams' damnable "mystery box."

  • Luciano
    Luciano 18 days ago

    If you analyse a fresh pile of excrement for too long, at one point you will not notice the smell anymore.

  • sertaki
    sertaki 18 days ago

    Last Jedi is my favorite Star Wars movie by far.
    There, I said it. And I'm one of those super fans that have semi-religiously fallowed the old expanded universe. Yet, this movie told a story that felt more tangible and real than anything else in Star Wars - the writing, directing and acting were in balance at last.

  • p.j. talavera
    p.j. talavera 18 days ago

    Your careful analysis is from the wrong perspective. The themes should include subjects that correlate to the original stories established universe. Stick with literature, not philosophy on this one.

  • Jerry Hensley
    Jerry Hensley 18 days ago

    F*** the Last Jedi they had no other the other bombers

  • SuperSpells
    SuperSpells 19 days ago

    I think what good examples these are for writers and the knowledge of these questions are lost on like 90% of commenters. They just want to bash the movie. I didn't even watch the movie but I liked the video.

  • bobhuber
    bobhuber 19 days ago

    I went in with a spoiler free review, expecting the Canto Bight scene to be the letdown section of the movie. I actually enjoyed most of it. I felt that the movie would have been very boring if it was just Luke and Rey, on the island and the resistance getting their asses kicked for the whole movie.

  • bobhuber
    bobhuber 19 days ago

    Thank you for being much smarter than myself and explaining to me why I liked this movie the first time I saw it.
    I thought I lived on a different planet than the other people who hate this film.
    Another problem that people have with TLJ...there isn't a lightsaber on lightsaber duel in that movie.
    I never even thought about it until I saw dozens of people griping about that online.
    Congrats, RJ! You made two lightsaber duel scenes work, without the same old-same old.
    That makes me like the movie. I don't get aroused from hearing the laser swords clash against each other.

  • Corrupted Hero
    Corrupted Hero 19 days ago +1

    I loved this movie, I hate this fandom.

  • AT-AT Chat
    AT-AT Chat 19 days ago

    This was brilliant. Thank you.

  • Triforcefilms
    Triforcefilms 19 days ago

    So nice to hear my thoughts and feelings eloquently articulated. Not enough sharp minds in the star wars fanbase these days. Keep up the good work.

  • Mariah Powell
    Mariah Powell 19 days ago

    I enjoyed The last Jedi. Wait... I'm the only one. Oh okay uh cool.

  • Toby Tombs
    Toby Tombs 20 days ago

    If every intrepretation of a film is subjective and no one is wrong what if someone claims they don't like Forrest Gump because all the characters had six fingers which humans don't and that broke their immersion? Is that opinion just as valid as everyone else's about that film? Of course not, they are objectively wrong.

  • ChrisPeteG
    ChrisPeteG 20 days ago

    TheXvid Movie Essays have finally devolved. From the 'Fun film analysis of great movies' to the sort of clickbait-y 'Praise bad movies, ridicule good movies to create a frenzy of hate and views and discussion'......sorry. I WAS a fan.

  • Voidwalker studios
    Voidwalker studios 20 days ago

    I am tired of the subversion defense by saying it wasn't what I wanted. its the act that a $317 million dollar movie that wants subversion but the subversion relies on a really good story, the story we had was downright terrible! and the part where luke fades out of exhistence is what made a lot of star wars fans really angry! rey isn't a complex character, she's a mary sue by definition se gets a triple kill by just a blast of the turret in the millennium falcon which ryan forgot because he hasn't seen TFA. I am glad that no one is interested in her character nor will most of the audience go to see episode 9 which I know it'll not get the budget 9 is made returned at all. I am also upset to how they made general hux an utter buffoon even though he is a very smart commander in TFA.

  • Mighty Nag
    Mighty Nag 21 day ago

    This should be "The Last Jedi and how it doesn't setup it's sequel". Amongst it's many many many MANY flaws, the biggest problem with this movie is that I DON"T CARE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT. At least with the force awakens(which i still don't like) I at least looked forward to seeing Luke, finding out who Snoke is, maybe seeing Rey get TRAINED, some character arcs, and maybe yeah, Kylo is bitch in the first film, but he'll be bad ass in the second. But no. The Last Jedi ends pretty much where it starts. All the reveals are flat, Rey REALLY is just a Mary Sue, no training needed, Kylo is still a little bitch and can't be taken seriously, and the first order is shown to be sooo inept that they can't actually be taken seriously. So the third film will have.. crying, emo kylo, over powered rey, Hux the Joke and... Poe the bumbling idiot? For someone who looks at stories.. this is an AWFUL way to setup the second part of a trilogy...

  • Justin Gruijters
    Justin Gruijters 21 day ago

    5K dislikes

    OOF

    (btw i liked)

  • Thomas Van Boening
    Thomas Van Boening 21 day ago

    Your analysis is really good on a structure level. After seeing your video, I think The Last Jedi plays better after additional viewings. Rian Johnson's work on Breaking Bad, Looper, and Brick shows that he gets the Hollywood John Truby style of structure.
    Playing devils advocate, sometimes audience expectations trump story for some fans. That whole setup and payoff parts still have yet to happen, and we are only humans who want satisfactory answers.
    Hopefully the let down fans find their peace with Episode 8 and give into good old fashioned Star Wars excitement to see the full sequel trilogy all the way through.
    Disney wants to give us entertainment and good products. And we have yet to see how the whole Skywalker saga ends.

  • Agent ok
    Agent ok 21 day ago +1

    I enjoy a well told story, and if this was a standalone or the beginning of a franchise then I'd enjoy it immensely. But it's not, it's a transition in an established franchise. While the new characters are handled well, the main character of the older films simply feels.... wrong. For him to have changed so much in such a dark way, for the light and hope of the original trilogy to appear here with so much bitterness and negativity is disturbing. It may have worked well for the story they wanted to tell, the new direction they wanted to go, but it just feels like the core of his character was ripped out. Also, this being the second film in this new part of the franchise, I felt like the things they built up in the The Force Awakens were thrown out the window. I feel like it's difficult to really care about anything they've set up, anything they've left unanswered in The Last Jedi because they could once again toss it all in the trash for the next film.

  • kcleonard
    kcleonard 21 day ago

    Well done sir, no disagreements here. Also, you didn’t spend over a half hour making your point. Some of these Last Jedi rant videos are ridiculously long!

  • Craig Gibson
    Craig Gibson 22 days ago

    It was a steaming mess that went out of its way to crap on why any of us LIKE Star Wars. If you desperately want to find good in it, I guess you can, like people who say Nazi Germany was a strong economy and the trains ran on time. Well, TLJ was still a mess, and it got everything about storytelling wrong. Red Letter Media's criticism of it couldn't be more perfect.

  • Jackson Furlong
    Jackson Furlong 22 days ago +1

    If Poe hadn't blown up that Dreadnaught, the entire rebel fleet would have been destroyed. There wouldn't have been this long chase, the Dreadnaught would have simply destroyed the rebels from a distance. Game Over.
    The reprimand he gets from Leia only works if his actions were unjustified or he fucked up. If anything, Leia fucked up by giving him the order to retreat. Poe disobeys the order, it results in heavy losses but, they all would have died if he had followed orders.
    If the movie is trying to get us to see Leia's side of it, that Poe should have followed the orders then logically speaking her order should have been the 'right' choice.
    He is told he can't solve all his problems by jumping in an Xwing and blowing shit up. After he literally solved their immediate problem by jumping in an Xwing and blowing shit up.
    This is not an example of good writing.

  • Foxtrot.Uniform.Charlie.Kilo.Golf+

    I personally didn't hate it - but I think I had so many missed opportunities, especially within the overarching theme; Letting go of the past.
    The director subverts several expectations but still beats the same old drum and effectively I feel that from start to finish nothing has changed.
    Kylo is still evil. Rey might have closure but hasn't become a better Jedi/force-person. Poe for this movie is painted as a hothead then again a rational person. Finn is with the rebellion because of others choices Rose/Rey/etc.
    There still is a line drawn between the cartoonish bad guys and the overtly PC good guys. So while I respect the effort and see your arguments I feel that it should either have been way more radical to work;
    Have Kylo and Rey team up, Poe make his own more violent ruthless splinter faction, have Finn desert or kidnapped then saved by Rose to learn team spirit.
    Or some variation thereof.
    Because while subverting every expectation of the franchise I started to hope for something completely different but by the end of the movie, there were just fewer interesting characters, same starting point for several off the characters (or at least I didn't feel that there was a significant change made) and the overall state of things were basically the same as the beginning of the movie.
    I personally think that is why many don't like the movie- It feels like it is trying to be two things at once which makes neither of them work.
    It tries to capture the charme of old and revolutionise at the same time. Being both nostalgic with Leia, Luke, Chewie and Yoda, and then subverting it with Rey, Kylo, Poe, Finn and Rose.
    It simply doesn't work.

  • Alex Mooney
    Alex Mooney 22 days ago

    Thank you so much. :,)

  • Daniel Schriever
    Daniel Schriever 22 days ago +2

    Maybe it was a "well structured movie" at its rock bottom, but a movie need to be a lot more then a base in order to get off the bottom. so much of the writing just sucked, to many plot holes. And you think Rey is complex? how? We never spent enough time with her. Go back and look at how much time we actually got to spend with Luke in the originals, which were way, way better, and that's not nostalgia talking, i didn't even grow up with the movies.

  • Davidrsq
    Davidrsq 22 days ago

    Ehhhh... ok, so this movie is somehow good to you. It's okay, i can respect that. It has some interesting things, but i have to say that i don´t agree with you when you say this is the movie we needed.
    We don't.
    Ryan Johnson made the movie HE wanted to see, and gave the audience the finger. That is selfish. Star Wars was (yes, WAS) one of the greatests series of films and people DESERVE the movie they WANTED. The movie WE wanted. And the movie we wanted is the movie we needed. Ryan, by being selfish and do wathever he wanted with the story and the characters, ignoring what people wanted, he sentence this movie to doom.
    This lead me to ask you this question. To whom this movies are made to? If the answer is "to critics and the film maker" then yes, it was brilliant. They loved it.
    But if the answer is "To the fans and people who watch this movies" then no, it wasn't great. He made a horrible movie.
    And i think the right answer is the second one.

  • Salvador Mendez
    Salvador Mendez 23 days ago

    Excellent video! I agree.

  • dragon1998D
    dragon1998D 23 days ago

    This comment section.. My god.
    Yes, you didn't like the movie, yes you may have some points, but stop stating them as fact and attacking this guy just because he disagrees. Nobody's opinion is superior and isn't a discussion between people who have different views on a piece of art something that can broaden your horizon? Look at things a different way? Just because you don't agree with his video doesn't mean you have to instantly give him a thumbs down. He gives HIS views and HIS opinion on a movie and clearly states his points. He doesn't say it's what everyone should think.

  • Christopher Aiezza
    Christopher Aiezza 23 days ago

    I wonder if those who watched this video and still hate the movie have comprehension issues...

  • pantognost
    pantognost 23 days ago +1

    It’s characteristic of the shambles that is the last Jedi the fact that you need to both hang lanterns (humorous ones) to the huge holes and discrepancies of the movie but you also make mental somersaults to point to a semblance of plot for this movie.
    You had a whole diatribe in another video (ready player one) on how the movie was unfaithful to the book, one book, but you seem content to sacrifice 40 years of written and digital material for some obscure tapping in common literary tropes and methods.
    I think you are not being objective.

  • sajisama24
    sajisama24 23 days ago +4

    If this is the movie that the audience and the franchise needed, than the franchise needed to die, and the fandom needed to disband and forget about Star Wars. You forget one important little detail. This might have worked as an individual film. But is a disgrace as a Star Wars movie. Rename the characters, rename the movie, rename everything and it might be called good if you give it a redesign too, so it doesn't look like Star Wars.

  • Inky E V
    Inky E V 23 days ago +1

    Error 404, red letter media has crusified this film already

  • Colt 45
    Colt 45 23 days ago +1

    Sorry bro, after watching the Red Letter Media review, i can not unsee the flaws of this movie that make zero sense alternatively

  • richtea
    richtea 23 days ago

    Watching this film is like watching a family member die from cancer.

  • Robert Madsen
    Robert Madsen 23 days ago

    All this filmschool theory blahblah aside: When I went to the movies I expected a entertaining movie. But I was already pissed when it took the film 14 minutes to complete the scene with Rey and Luke from the cliffhanger from the last movie. A full blown space battle later they concluded the scene without any meaning except a cheap joke by tossing the lightsabre across the shoulder. Why didn't they just dropped this scene and picked up the Ahch-to scenes very much later? I can follow your arguments but for me it seems that Rian Johnson tried to follow a rulebook but failing the aspect that he has to please a huge audience. If he did a "A Star Wars Story" movie nobody would have been complained. But the movie is like a banana with dark spots which you extract before eating the rest of it.

  • grkpektis
    grkpektis 23 days ago +2

    I personally hate this movie for the opposite reason of fanboys, I thought the movie didn't push the envelope enough, I think they pussied out. I thought if Rey would've joined Kylo (not romantically) and gotten rid of the rebellion, empire, etc the movie could've been great it could've sent SW in a whole new direction. Instead we're just going to keep getting the same god damn SW movie over and over again.

  • hysuka2
    hysuka2 23 days ago +1

    Is this video really a cleverly done parody of video essays?

  • Richard Jefferies
    Richard Jefferies 23 days ago

    Execution, execution, execution. This is exactly what the bad scriptwriter in Rick and Morty parodies. Oh yes, it checks the narrative boxes, but it does so in a utterly clumsy and contrived way that it loses the audience. One has to start reverting to film school academic gobbledygook to explain why it was actually a good movie even though your brain says it wasn't. Rian Johnson may have made a love letter to film critics, and that's great, but his movie sucked.

  • Sky Cloud
    Sky Cloud 24 days ago +4

    What a joke. Tell me then what was good writing about making Liea 'die' sucked into outer space when the ship blew up only to have her survive, float rather jarringly into another ship? It is pointless and nothing to neither the story, her character or Kylo Ren.
    Tell me what's good writing about keeping Poe out of the loop when Holdo could have just told him the plans?
    Tell me what is good writing about having a pointless side track through saving aninals at Canto Bight and also in which no tracking was disabled? The entire subplot was a waste of time and energy. Finn already made his choice to side with the resistance by the end of The Force Awakens and Rose needed to avenge her sister - not get thorny about some poor animals and horrible rich people.
    Tell me was is good writing about when Rose bumped into Finn highly risking death and injury to both of them (wasn't her entire point to avoid Finn' s death?), saying some goofy "love will save us" as The First Order blows the resistance hanger up in the background? Cringeworthy bad and just stupid.
    Tell me what is good writing about making Luke a cynical loon who affempted to kill his sleeping nephew because he temporarily saw "darkness" in him? That totally detracts from the hero's arc in the original trilogy where Luke heroicly brings Vader to the light - a villan far more evil than Ren could ever be. Why did Luke give up on him? Madness! Aweful writing.
    The Last Jedi is a showcase of terrible writing and pointless story arcs.

  • Maciej Wielgus
    Maciej Wielgus 24 days ago

    That was just great, I have seen many videos about how TLJ fail all the audience, I have seen many SJW bullshit in it, but now for the first time I understand how it was made, why in this way, why all these scenes and heroes were included in the plot. I'm still disappointed with TLJ but now, finally, i can say that i understand the point of a view of the writer.

  • Tim Johnson
    Tim Johnson 24 days ago +1

    Came here to see if you would mention the ((postmodern cultural marxist propaganda)) in this movie and you let me down.

  • Non Gamer
    Non Gamer 24 days ago +1

    even flat earth videos on youtube have a small percentage of idiots that agree with what's being said...
    a good comparison with this video

  • Papillon Effect
    Papillon Effect 24 days ago

    6:50 That's shit's funny!

  • QuiqueFuenteSIT
    QuiqueFuenteSIT 25 days ago

    My problem with the movie is not that it did not tell well made stories, but that the entire plot line as a whole was forced and awkward to fit all of the arcs in and it was plainly obvious and felt out of place. the stories did not tie well into a whole narrative that was believable in the universe, even if i like the directions they took the character. the 30,000 ft view seemed forced.

  • TheLukeMonster
    TheLukeMonster 25 days ago

    I needed this video essay so badly. It's such a relief to know that I'm not the only one who thinks this movie is great and that the hatred it receives is unwarranted.

  • Jonathan Reddoch
    Jonathan Reddoch 25 days ago

    Damn, the Last Jedi is freaking great. So good.