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Probably the most overrated goal of all time. Not a single tackle made.
Much like Maradona v England in 86 or Giggs v Arsenal in 99. If a tackle were made it wouldn't have been a goal- it'd have been a clearance. Brilliant goal by a class player- as a Man U fan (form an orderly queue for abuse please) I never liked him back in the 80s/90s but always respected him as a player. Nowadays I think he's great as a former player and a person.
One of the greatest England Goals ever!!! Legendary, mythical...!
That is not the best goal
I love watching Brazil get fucked.
Watford Watford *Liverpool legend
John Barnes was a fantastic footballer, one of England's best. The game is different today to how it was back then so the comparisons to current players is a bit pointless. Guys like Barnes could walk through a defense on a pitch that had craters all over it and would ride challenges that would bring red cards in today's game. He was powerful but had amazing skill and outstanding control. Instead of making comparisons just appreciate him for the player he was in his day.
This is what defending in FIFA 15 feels like.
Darren Ball You sound like a fucking virgin mate lmao
@Darren Ball What are you, 12? Only dumb little kids care about console flame wars.
@Tugg Speedman Yer I stopped reading after the word xbox Do people still play those things 😂
@Darren Ball Firstly, I play on Xbox. Secondly, I seriously don't give a flying fuck if you're better at Fifa than me... get a life mate.
@Darren Ball Looks like we got a real badass over here...
hes coming to my school
He just ran in a straight diagonal line lol
Pele must be how did wtf
if anything they do the opposite, and say how shit england are
I replied to you, but I didn't accuse you of anything. Hopefully you're able to comprehend that. Oh, the British media are the wildest at hyping their own to epic proportions.
we'll you are talking to me in your comment as you replied to me. Also so many young players have been over hyped, just because they are of our nationality doesnt make the whole nation become dumb founded about who's the best, oh it must be the british
Hahahaha, you're becoming unhinged when I didn't speak about you. I spoke in general, but you know what they say: "if you throw a stone in a hog pen, the first to cry out is the one who got hit." Sounds like your conscience is eating away at you!!!!
so your presuming I'm being racist and that gb are racist, so many players are thought to be the next so and so, fuck you. So what if Barnes is black, doesnt make him worse for that reason
Polls by and for whom, English men? Wouldn't have anything to do with the fact Barnes was a Black Jamaican who played for England, would it? I bet most polls for and by Brits would say Shearer was better than Pele. I remember when Michael Owen and Wayne Rooney were each hailed as the new (and improved) Peles. LOL
I love how you ask me a question then say "yh thought so" before you finished your comment, all I'm saying is I thin gazza is better and the majority probs do as well hense his fame and popularity, next time I'll keep my opinion to myself to avoid little wimps pissing themselves over someones opinion not agreeing
You've got to hold and give but do it at the right time, you can be slow or fast but you must get to the line.
My husband wants a body like John Barnes, he bought some weights :)Saw him on Russell Howard's good news, good footballer
It's not that good, I can do that..Hold my beer
Barnes was magnificent! and he would have won 3 european cups. He was just that good. And the England 'fans' that would boo him all day (after he scored in 3 mins) I hope your lives are as bitter as you suggest
Gazza and Barnsey should BOTH have had better stats. Had Barnes been on from the start in 1986, given he was on fire, I reckon we'd have won that world cup. He'd have also have won European honours with Liverpool had they been allowed to compete in Europe. And Gazza, if he wasn't so keen to self-destruct (or make rash tackles) his career would have been infinitely better.
Red Rum spot on. The manager was really revered, but didn’t take to John Barnes that much and he brought on digger, way too late. Gary Lineker’s unfeasible miss didn’t help either!
Gazza also got: Goal Of The Season, two championships and a cup and league cup with Rangers, and also BBC Sports Personality of the Year.
The goal is all the better for the player pre-Barnes (Robson?). Wins the ball, drops back, then a beautiful lob to Barnesy.
Doesn't matter about his outside problems? They completely ruined his career. Gazza was one of the stupidest players of all time in terms of behaviour, he made Maradona seem normal.Tell me what great seasons Gazza had? He hardly did anything in Italy, was outshone by Brian Laudrup at Rangers. He had potential but didn't do much with it.
it doesn't matter about his outside problems, Gazza was better than Barnes, so what if Barnes won 2 player of the year awards, better for 2 seasons maybe, but overall, not a chance
What poll? Only for England was Gascoigne better, at club level Barnes was clearly superior. Gascoigne ruined his career due to his stupid actions - stupid tackle, drinks, drugs, junk food etc
say wat u want but gazza was better any poll would show u
Yes but Barnes won two senior INDIVIDUAL player of the year awards, Gazza won none, even when he played in the mighty SPL. Gareth Bale also won the player of the year despite not winning anything so your argument is invalid. Yes Gazza was slightly more technically gifted but he did not make the most of his talents and was usually on drugs, drink, junk food which led to his constant injuries.
it doesn't matter what someone wins, it's like saying Carrick is better than Gerrard because he won a premierleague, any poll would show that Gascoigne is better than Barnes, Barnes was still good but he was no Gazza
What exactly did Gascoigne win in his career? He was very inconsistent. One FA Cup and one Young Player of The Year. That's it. Barnes won two Player of the year awards, two leagues and two FA Cups.
Barnes was a superbly skilful player but Gazza was a bit of a genius, a step above Barnes. However,Barnes had greater impact in helping Liverpool than Gazza did with Tottenham, because of greater consistency. Gazza was a bit of a poor man's Maradona - and that's one of the greatest compliments you can pay a footballer.
it's there all round game, surely you would prefer Gazza to Barnes, Barnes was one of those players that needed a rocket up his arse, good but a bit lack luster
If it was played yesterday he would have been barged off/chopped down/shirt pulled/elbowed/kicked. Not talking about Brazil but in general.. long live the old generation of players.
what? sorry I can't read so I don't know what you are saying
It was his tackling and getting 'stuck in' that completely ruined his career when he made that stupid tackle in the 1991 FA Cup Final. Why the hell does an attacking midfielder have to get 'stuck in'?
Barnes won Footballer of the Year twice and scored over 20 goals in a season whilst playing left wing in a 4-4-2 not 4-3-3. That was remarkable! Sure Gazza had a better England career but his club career was far behind Barnes.
Because he wasn't as good as Gascoigne. That's a crazy assertion.
He didn't say he was as good as Messi. Learn to read. He said he could make very difficult things look easy, like Messi does. That doesn't say Barnes was as good or better than Lional.
Probably because you are wrong and Barnes wasn't as good as Gazza. Just a theory. Go ahead and use colour as the reason though.
It was terrible defending. Something Brasil are well known for. Still a great goal, but you must see how bad it is for no player to have made a challenge on him.-Ps, I play football often, since that apparently means you are allowed an opinion.
*Beardsley not far behind
England's 1990 World Cup team was their last good team, a really good team actually, when they had Gazza, Waddle, Linekar, Barnes, Beardsley, Robson. In fairness, that midfield and attack is as good as any. Gazza, Waddle, Barnes all highly skilful with Beardsley it far behind. Linekar was one of the finest strikers England have ever had and Robson was a very solid midfielder, and one of the best football captains ever.
like if England V Brazil 2013 brought you hear :)
brazil no doubt backed themselves to lose that day
Barnes was not better than Gazza..
naa Gascoigne was better, he could tackle and get stuck in a bit more than Barnes did, his charisma made him loveable as well
messi could do that easy...good goal, not great
Barnes better then Gascoigne? lol
while I'm not denying john barnes was a great player, he is most definitely NOT like or as good as messi
It does *look* like bad defending. That's only because Barnes was deceptively fast.
It was a good goal, but did anyone actually try to tackle him? He just ran in a straight line lol.
Should've held Y eh?
jhon barnes e paul gascoigne jogavam muito!!!
The English clubs have been amazing for the last 8 years but we've done poor internationally.
Englands best, someone would have to be off their rocker to say he was on par with the Worlds!
Oh, and the 1986 side was solid, as well. Great midfield and strikers. Defensively perhaps not that great. And only knocked out by the most blatant handball goal of all time. England have a history of getting fucked over at World Cups. (Lampard's disallowed equalizer against Germany was just ATROCIOUS decision-making, and completely changed the game.)
The England teams in 1982 and 1990 were both very good. The '90 side was very unlucky against Germany: outplayed them in regulation time, only drew thanks to a fluke deflected goal. The 1982 team were one of the only world cup teams to be eliminated without losing a single game, because of the weird 'four groups of three' second stage (never repeated subsequently). They beat France easily, and France were an amazing side at the time.
Yes I watched that game v France in 82. England were solid.
Yeah, look at the great Liverpool teams of the early 80s. Half their key players were Scottish.
It's certainly lazy defending. Plus I think they simply weren't expecting the direct run at goal.
I think in the case of the Maradona goal the England defenders were so shell-shocked by the handball goal two minutes before that their minds were barely on the game. He's hardly challenged as he runs from the halfway line.
So his goal was much better than Barnes??
Very few people have dubbed Beckham as 'the best'. Most people realize he's a good-looking, hard-working but slightly slow player with amazing dead ball skills and excellent distribution. And a nice bloke to boot. Nobody confuses him with Messi or Zidane.Gascoigne on form was a fabulous player. It was the combination of great dribbling skills, body strength, an eye for goal and excellent vision. He became a total fucking liability later, though.
I don't honestly agree with that. I remember all the little kids at school pretending to be John Barnes in the playground And Des Walker was regarded as our best defender.
Yeah, it's absolutely gutting that Lineker couldn't put the second one away.
And still remembered very fondly at Portsmouth.
Actually, he was generally regarded as being England's best player by many pundits in the late 80s. But, crucially, he rarely delivered at international level. It became a bit of a running joke. He's not the first player for whom this has been the case: Ian Wright never delivered, nor did Le Tissier, or Andy Cole.Having said that, Gascoigne was never the same after his injury and move to Lazio, but kept getting picked regardless. He DID have a good Euro 96, but not much in between.
Psycho played LB that tournament as well didnt he? Robson's selections always lacked balance, if Barnes and Gazza had been made THE focal points (and not lazy arse Hoddle) England may have won at least a Euro's. I still always wonder how Bobby was incapable of getting the best out of Barnes when Dalglish and company at Liverpool had him playing as good as Maradona between 87 & 90.
Paddy Barclay said at the time he was the greatest player the English game had seen since George Best.
But so did Barnes , it was pure class , he dribbled through them and he has done it many times , sometimes you need to shut the fuck up and accept the skills.
No , it was just pure class , I wonder why when Messi dribbles past players no one shouts poor defending.
Yes and Messi is much more protected now. Back then you'd get hacked down in no time.
England is poopy
Because he is black, people didn't respect black footballers in premiership back in the days. I agree he was better than Gascoigne, he was showing more consistency in his game. But just remember what was Gazza doing at Newcastle United, he was so good that Ferguson still till today regrets that he didn't sign for Man Utd.
Look why can't we accept that both Gazza and Barnes were fantastic players.
Haters gonna hate, united fans gonna retardate
@JackMcGhie Gazza was all smoke and mirrors, like Rooney is today. Barnes was on par with Maradona between 87-90 at club level. Gazza wasn't even close, everyone dubs players like him the best (like Becks & Rooney) because they attract the most attention to themselves rather than continual displays of talent that has been seen from Barnes(Gazza's time), Scholes (Beckhams time) and Gerrard (Rooneys time).
Senator, I respect your opinion but, much as I like Barnes who was a fantastic player, Maradona was a different class.
@antoflondon you know fuck all about football lad. Today's premierleague defenders? John Barnes & Diego Maradona would have a field day against the shite excuses for defenders that currently ply their trade in La Liga & The Barclays Premierleague.
someone would have taken him out in today's football? Strikers were targeted back then and if anything would have been taken out a lot quicker dont be a ginnit.
correction. barnes was great but there is no one like messi.messi is a Unique species.i am old enough and i saw them all in action.
If there was a decent challenge he wouldn't of scored you fuckin onion. If you don't like the goal why don't you try not watching it you plant pot.
Just another kid that never touched a ball, spend all day in video games and thinks that know something about futebol.Son, that is John Barnes. He was like Messi, he make things look easy.
cause not everyone was english
Right you are!
a) he wasn't. b) due to Gazza generally being more high profile.... Scholes is and was as good as Beckham, if not better.... same story. Oh and because he was black... obviously.
just for the record, the second cross was not headed wide by Lineker. It is actually cleared off the line right under Lineker's nose by the defender. The only reason i bring this up is because i consider it to be one of the greatest pieces of defending in the history of football. He actually gets under Lineker's dive for the header and flicks it away. Remarkable.
John Barnes was just as good if not better than Paul Gascoigne, but didn't get the same praise, I wonder why.....
He didn't often get the service he got for Watford then,and later for Liverpool. With England 2-0 behind from Diego Maradona's infamous Hand of God and his truly brilliant second goal,Barnes was brought on as sub about 10 minutes from the end of the 1986 World Cup quarter-final against Argentina. Getting the better of the full back in familiar fashion,his cross was headed in by Gary Lineker for 2-1. A near carbon copy repeat was headed just wide by Lineker. What if he'd been introduced earlier?
The reason he didn't play well for England was because he was told to stay on the left touchline. For Liverpool he was given more freedom to express himself. This is a great goal bamboozling several defenders, showing great close control and balance. Sterling, Lennon, Wright Phillips may be slightly quicker than Barnes but they're skill on the ball is light years behind John Barnes.
@Kenmorfdublin I very much doubt they weren't paying atention, I mean it was their job to play football and it was a big game. I'm guessing you don't follow international football it's the biggest thing ever football wise.
why would you stay then ???????
ye ok when there playing Brazil, its not sunday league mate.
sounds like something you would know about more than me...but Liverpool won..i remember.
So SOOO over rated, he more or less just ran through a load of players who weren't paying attention and failed to tackle him.
Was it a tossed salad? - like did you toss all over it?
i made him a salad once..before a fa.cup final....
Hand in your passport then and go somewhere else, you wont be missed