A gadget maker’s worst nightmare...

  • Published on Apr 2, 2019
  • Creating a physical product is difficult, even without the added risk of someone stealing your idea. In this first episode of In the Making, Ashley Carman chats with creators about how they dealt with people ripping off their ideas and manufacturing knock-offs. We unpack the challenges they face and how they overcome them.
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  • The Verge
    The Verge  5 months ago +814

    Have you ever bought a knockoff?

    • rope
      rope 28 days ago

      As soon as the Pressy maker said 'The Verge supported the knockoff' the camera immediately turned to someone else

    • Andy1341000
      Andy1341000 2 months ago

      Yes found a great alternative to the luminous lamp on amazon that is low priced and not a rip off since it’s made of wood on the outside and water resistant paper, haven’t bought it yet but plan to soon since I saw one at a store for around $200 and found this one I mentioned amazon for around $30 for the smaller one and $50 for the bigger one.

    • Hi Im APOP
      Hi Im APOP 2 months ago

      Are speedcubes a knockoff of Rubik's cubes? If so, yes.

    • bleh ;-; Bleh
      bleh ;-; Bleh 2 months ago

      The Verge my life sentence

  • Badoo Renc
    Badoo Renc 16 days ago


  • PlaylistDude
    PlaylistDude Month ago

    China :D Mofos

  • Obi Dark
    Obi Dark Month ago

    200$ light diode that isn't even bright enough ... No thanks.

  • Deridder Evelien
    Deridder Evelien 2 months ago

    its evolution maken beter and cheaper i hope the wil do it whit all products so life can be more cheaper

  • Sushil Skolia
    Sushil Skolia 2 months ago


  • Silviu Cotinghiu
    Silviu Cotinghiu 2 months ago

    Pressy is kinda a useless toy

  • peter delaney
    peter delaney 2 months ago

    Funnily enough someone bought me a lumio knockoff. It's terrible.

  • Poop Brain
    Poop Brain 2 months ago

    so patents are useless

  • Phlegethon
    Phlegethon 2 months ago +1

    That’s ok your headphone jack tool is useless now anyway

  • Agnoletto
    Agnoletto 2 months ago +1

    I'm designing a product and had an appointment with a lawyer specialized in patent law. Damn, first 10 second got instantly me in

  • Neropatti
    Neropatti 2 months ago

    Some years back there was this trend with headphone jack mascots. My mom had one but for some reason her internal speakers wouldn't work when the mascot was there even though the plug in the mascot was non-conductive plastic.

  • Stanley Chang
    Stanley Chang 2 months ago +1

    Lol, the guy's name is Nimrod Back?!

  • mschei23
    mschei23 2 months ago +1

    I will make my own tech news channel and call it.....the merge

  • yoooyoyooo
    yoooyoyooo 2 months ago

    If I came across that idea I would dismmis it. Book lamp is cool tho.

  • wasabisazzdafirst
    wasabisazzdafirst 2 months ago

    *jaumi* LOLLLL Caucasians really can't pronounce these things at all 😂😂😂

  • R S
    R S 2 months ago +2

    Why is the Lumio guy surprised that people recreate his product? The original is horrendously overpriced.

  • eddie dean
    eddie dean 2 months ago

    Bootleg everything

  • MrKevinontube
    MrKevinontube 2 months ago

    Dislikes by xiaomi users.

  • Exxelenen Setijadi
    Exxelenen Setijadi 2 months ago

    I guide others to a treasure I cannot possess
    - calm inventors who got knockoff'd

  • Carl Javier
    Carl Javier 2 months ago

    Are there any more stories like this? I feel like the more you share other stories, the better.

  • Justin Macabre
    Justin Macabre 2 months ago

    The book light guy is hot

  • Ayush Nayak
    Ayush Nayak 2 months ago

    Xiaomi is a f****** copycat 🤬

  • FudgyMations
    FudgyMations 2 months ago

    Has a 200 dollar light still uses micro usb

  • ISLAM is Satan's masterpiece - est satanique

    this is so unethical. those poor innovators... at the end no one will innovate anymore because they're discouraged.

  • Lyonard Maduro
    Lyonard Maduro 2 months ago

    Knock offs: A Dropshipper's Friend

  • Andrej Daskalov
    Andrej Daskalov 2 months ago +1

    Counterfeits have way more competitive pricing and that's where i think they really succeed. These kicktarter projects need to focus on getting costs down

  • altairgame
    altairgame 2 months ago +1

    The right price is the price people are willing to pay

  • Saosaq Ii
    Saosaq Ii 2 months ago +1

    Knockoffs aren’t a problem. It’s called competition. Even if you invented it unless it provides better value Idk who I buy from.

    There is no such thing as “unfair”. An gazelle won’t scream inequality when an lion is eating it.

  • Miss O.P.
    Miss O.P. 2 months ago

    china's copy pastes revolution.
    a major issue is we have no real tech manufacture center. we need to walk out of china and make it here so at least you can sue people. you can't really sue people in china when it comes to knock off. it's pretty much legal

  • Martcapt
    Martcapt 2 months ago


  • Tommy Johson
    Tommy Johson 2 months ago

    And I'm here watching this video with a Xiaomi phone

  • Daniel Stoica
    Daniel Stoica 2 months ago

    Or just be a "good idea" person, that licenses each idea to a big company, that already has the manufactuering and lawyers in place. Do you want to invent? Or do you want to run a small buisness? You can do both, or not?

  • Michael Inglis
    Michael Inglis 2 months ago

    Nimrod is a boss, the end was my favorite part.

  • Matthew Carrell
    Matthew Carrell 2 months ago

    oof, I have a pressy knockoff...

  • DizzyAaron
    DizzyAaron 2 months ago

    Amazon FBA 2018 Market.

  • João Pedro Abreu
    João Pedro Abreu 2 months ago

    isn't this what patents serv for?

  • Levi Hanson
    Levi Hanson 2 months ago

    I invented the Brita FilterStraw...no joke

  • Cameron tech account
    Cameron tech account 2 months ago +1

    This is called a competitive market and should be encouraged. If someone can make your product cheaper or more desirable then they should be allowed to, because if they aren’t able to then it’s a monopoly. This is the stupidest video I’ve ever watched. Yeah it’s sad your idea got copied but it’s your fault if you couldn’t make your product more desirable than the other company’s. Stop crying over something you did to yourself.

  • Jonathan F
    Jonathan F 2 months ago

    People complain about the price of Lumio, but you're not the demographic his company is targeting. That's why he doesn't really pursue legal damages for cheap knockoffs because they're not really damaging his market.

  • Sourabh
    Sourabh 2 months ago

    Patents are useless in modern world.

  • dhwang101
    dhwang101 2 months ago

    I would call it Nimrod, not Pressy

  • dhwang101
    dhwang101 2 months ago

    Why didn't he patent in China?

  • HelloHa
    HelloHa 3 months ago

    One huge factor that somehow got completely ignored is where do you manufacture? If you choose to do it in china the factories your hire to make your beautiful design will just continue production as soon as you are out of the door. It is part of their culture, they don't have the same ethics. So some major advice. Do it LOCALLY!

  • Aswin -
    Aswin - 3 months ago +1

    doesn't the name lumio seems to be a copycat of nokia's lumia?

  • Rob White
    Rob White 3 months ago +1

    Pretty much sums up what every social media platform is

  • kvisualtree
    kvisualtree 3 months ago +1

    This is sad. This is quite similar to when one writes something and copycats copy the content shamelessly.

  • Seif Eddine B
    Seif Eddine B 3 months ago

    Good episode, only the make-up made her look like a clown

  • Adlai Newson
    Adlai Newson 3 months ago

    no wonder the Lumio guy didn't care.. he's selling his for 200$, and the knockoffs are 12$ - totally different markets

  • pingu5746
    pingu5746 3 months ago

    I backed Pressy back then. It didn't teally work when it finally shipped.

  • Alexandra Kershner
    Alexandra Kershner 3 months ago

    When you have to pay $200 to buy a book light...yeah that knock-off doesn't look so bad.

  • DerParadonym
    DerParadonym 3 months ago +1

    I actively search for knockoffs of kickstarter products. Because they're faster in shipping and kickstarter is mostly likely to fail.
    First I have the kickstarter guy having problems to find manufacturers for that unexpected large quantities and then I have the AliExpress shop which is already selling this product for a price I expected the hardware to cost.

  • Carlos Ramon
    Carlos Ramon 3 months ago

    Need me some DND Boogie Dice

  • Prasenjeet Biswas
    Prasenjeet Biswas 3 months ago

    So is the last encouraging me to copy others instead of creating my own. Which side should I choose to get rich (ethical or not I don't mind if the law doesn't)

  • marwinout
    marwinout 3 months ago +3

    China will steal everything and anything they can get their hands on like philippine territories

  • david yu
    david yu 3 months ago +1

    I bought TWO lumio, and they both broke and no matter how many times I reach out the the service team, they never help me restore my purchase. I even ask for a way to repair them myself, I got ignored. So instead I went on Amazon and bought the cheaper one, use them every weekend, camping for 2 years. still working.

  • Matt Armstrong
    Matt Armstrong 3 months ago

    More of this sort of content please. Something a bit different and very interesting. Well done Verge.

  • zulfikangga
    zulfikangga 3 months ago +1

    3:04 and everyone said, Xiaomi is an innovative company.. wtf...

  • Kenny Baldoz
    Kenny Baldoz 3 months ago +2

    This is what trump are making noise for. Thieves lurking somewhere in the other side of the world(you know where it is) waiting for new ideas and inventions.

  • honestguy77 !
    honestguy77 ! 3 months ago +1

    Dont make your products in China