The Problem With DC Action Scenes

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  • Epic Otaku Cherry
    Epic Otaku Cherry 3 hours ago

    I think one of the best examples to look at for the "using powers creatively" point and to contrast with DCEU's lack of choreography and creativity is to look at the way Black Widow fights. She has no superpowers, isn't particularly brutally strong, but her fight scenes are a work of art. They're fast, creative, and one of the ones I look forward to the most. Who doesn't love the thing she does where uses her thighs to swing around a guy's neck and bring him down? It's incredible!
    If Marvel can do this with a character with no superpowers (her dancing background gives her more flexibility than the average person, but she certainly isn't a goddess or anything), what can Marvel do with Superman, or Batman, who supposedly trained in nearly every martial art known to man? What could Aquaman do, and how does the fighting he learned underwater translate on land? Flash should just learn how to fight, period.
    Another note, that motorcycle scene by Bucky in Civil War was incredible. You don't even have to be fighting actively at the moment to use your physicality to do something amazing.

  • Paul Arzooman
    Paul Arzooman 8 hours ago

    The best of the MCU films have been the Captain America series. Although the action is exciting and drives the plot forward, it's the moments of humanity that make those films special. Firstly, Chris Evans' acting is superb. His portrayal of Steve Rogers is everything that Superman is supposed to be. A selfless hero who believes in freedom and decency. An everyman with enormous powers who never loses the person he was. The DCCU Superman is no longer Clark Kent, it's Kal-El. He's no longer the man from Smallville, he's an alien with godlike powers and knows it. That is NOT what Superman is supposed to be. Aside from the action pointed out in the video above, the main problem with the DCCU films is that they put the costumes front and center and almost forget about the person inside.

  • Elliot Archuleta
    Elliot Archuleta 8 hours ago

    THIS is cinema.

  • nono yes
    nono yes 9 hours ago

    What is the outro song? :)

  • LB2007
    LB2007 23 hours ago

    I have zero interest in superhero movies and still can't tell DC from Marvel. Is there any difference to speak of?

  • Riley and Gibson Films
    Riley and Gibson Films 23 hours ago

    Do you think you could do a video on censoring violence? I really want to know how to make it clear that something violent just happened, without it being too on the nose, and still being okay for kids to watch. Thanks!

  • Anna Light
    Anna Light Day ago

    The last scene made me laugh! This is so true about the DC movies, hah! Maybe that's why I like Marvel more than DCU, which is really a shame cause I really wanted to love it (Christopher Nolan's Batman movies were amazing though!)

  • coden4
    coden4 Day ago

    I actually liked the action in Man of Steel, Wonder Woman, and some parts of BvS, but I agree that the fights in Justice League and the final battle in BvS are crap.

  • Felix Sited
    Felix Sited Day ago

    Ouch!

  • spawnjosias
    spawnjosias Day ago

    Aquaman is fucking gold 😂❤️

  • hamish-k
    hamish-k 2 days ago

    It would be good if zack snyder got more of his stuff in the movie

  • Ned Flanders
    Ned Flanders 2 days ago +1

    Pausing an action scene with some comedic relief, doesn't make it a better action scene. It just makes it more generic and lame. It reminds you that "hey, youre watching a movie btw!"
    Strongly recommend that you watch the batman warehouse scene again. Or the first amtrix for that matter.

  • Ned Flanders
    Ned Flanders 2 days ago +1

    It's like this guy just closes his eyes everytime Batman is on screen, including the amazing Nolan Trilogy

  • Ned Flanders
    Ned Flanders 2 days ago +1

    *Says DC actions scenes lack physics
    *Doesnt mention the gruesome Batman warehouse scene

  • Timothy Parsons
    Timothy Parsons 3 days ago

    ending is amazing

  • Swaroop Oruganti
    Swaroop Oruganti 3 days ago

    Make a Flash movie

  • KnightRiver9
    KnightRiver9 3 days ago

    Seems like DC is really taking note on this. The Winter Soldier's fight scene was heavily inspired by The Raid (directed by Gareth Evans, his movies are probably the best action movies this past decade, check em out if you havent!) which is why it was so well done. And last I heard, Evans is going to direct Deathstroke for DCEU. So, expect some improvement from DC I guess?

  • Ben Baxter
    Ben Baxter 4 days ago

    6:39 - 7:02 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

  • Kamal Singh
    Kamal Singh 4 days ago

    You made me hate DC so much

  • The Comedian
    The Comedian 4 days ago +1

    There’s only one good action scene in the dceu and that’s when Batman goes to save Superman’s Mom. That’s it.

  • Winter Naomi Vera
    Winter Naomi Vera 4 days ago +1

    I think you're either not being fair about pauses, or you don't pay attention to the action scenes in DC Films, because some of the pauses in them are better than most of the pauses in Marvel action scenes. One of my all-time favorite pauses in a Comic Book Movie action scene, is in a DC Film. Clark pauses during his fight with one of Zod's soldiers to save a falling jet pilot and ask him if he's OK. It's one of the best uses of a pause in an action scene. It makes me tear up every time I see it. :,)

  • gowri kolal
    gowri kolal 4 days ago

    even though i agree with everything said, i kinda think its unfair to compare dceu to mcu. We shouldnt have to dislike dceu just because someone else did it better, their movies suck even without having marvel as a comparison scale

  • M L
    M L 5 days ago

    just like everything hollyweird does it gets played out and boring, remakes, comic book movies etc. the greats are about real life situations and human interactions.

  • Geddiz
    Geddiz 5 days ago

    So the short answer is stop shoehorning Snyder into everything.

  • Bookwyrm
    Bookwyrm 5 days ago +1

    I really like the point you're making, but Civil War does not have a serviceable plot and charismatic lead - it's fucking atrocious. In all of MCU, this is all you could find?

  • Samuel Raji
    Samuel Raji 5 days ago

    Guardians of Galaxy was the only worthwhile movie. That's was even remotely memorable. I could finish First Avenger couldn't finish Iron Man 3, couldn't finish Thor 2. I stopped watching Superhero after that

  • Suchart Boontid
    Suchart Boontid 5 days ago

    Also, does anyone notice that DC superheroes always look perfect even after a fight to the death with their worst foes? Marvel heroes have dirt/sweat/blood on their face and body after a fight and sometimes their costumes ripped or get dirty. They look like people who have been through war. DC guys be looking FLAWLESS even after they just demolished a building that exploded into a fiery mess. I know some of them are gods and maybe they don't have sweat glands but idk I can't take them seriously when they look like they're impervious to earthly elements. DC places too much emphasis on making their movies and actors look perfect but they don't give a crap about realism and narrative continuity.

  • Danny Benhur
    Danny Benhur 5 days ago

    By the way, Marvel uses shaky cam...maybe DC should incorporate it...

  • Matthew Torres
    Matthew Torres 5 days ago

    "Superhero Fatigue"
    Infinity War breaks 2 billion
    Incredibles II breaks animation opening weekend record

  • Richard Oakes
    Richard Oakes 5 days ago

    The violence in this genre lacks consequences, and thus totally lacking in meaning. I can't help think that this disconnect is a metaphor for something truly worrying in American politics and culture.

  • Al Benzies
    Al Benzies 5 days ago

    I really think you’re wrong in your last point about what they say in between fights. All the marvel examples you used were humour based where the majority of the DC ones were to add drama and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. By adding drama it can make a scene feel more intense and feel like there is more at stake. I enjoy marvel action but with the exception of a few they often feel like there’s not much at stake and if the characters don’t take the situation seriously why should the viewer?

  • KrisJM1234
    KrisJM1234 6 days ago

    The DC films will never get better if the DC fans keep falling for their crap.

  • Haytem Labbaci
    Haytem Labbaci 6 days ago

    zack snyder actions are the best

  • Mitchell Anderson
    Mitchell Anderson 6 days ago

    Dang. That's...actually a good point. ESPECIALLY the Zodd fight. The pauses are ESPECIALLY a good point. They're when the REAL one-liners come into play.

  • Khallid Muhammed
    Khallid Muhammed 6 days ago

    The jumping out the car and running or walking, is an old marvel trick. Bruce Willis did it in the Red franchise.

  • Pedro Degado Blnco
    Pedro Degado Blnco 6 days ago

    I'm totally with you with the DC problem with action scenes. However, using Marvel as an example...questionable (in my opinion). Good action sequences don't need one-liners. What I think they should have done at least with WW and Batman is show how mastery in the craft of fighting can stand up to brute force (super-man has not been trained, he is in some ways an infant). Probably with Super-Man whe should have seen some development in his skill level. Because in JL when you can sort of feel it, you see a just-ressurected Super-man just killing Steppen Wolf with plain punches and nothing more. The other thing I wanted to say is that the Bat-Man fighting in the docks in BvS probably tops any action sequence done by Marvel. In my opinion, Daredevil S1 is a perfect example of good action, not Iron-Man just shooting plain beams and missiles...The other thing is that Spider-Man Homecoming suffered from the same problem. When his up in the air and his powers are somewhat negated by the environment, I expected something interesting. Instead got bland, holding on to planes CGI.

  • trequor
    trequor 6 days ago

    Pacific Rim did it best. You can feel every step, every punch of the giants mechs right in your gut

  • Jhevon J.
    Jhevon J. 6 days ago

    This video was great.

  • DrizzyPuffs
    DrizzyPuffs 7 days ago

    Wonder Woman was great. Batman V Superman wasn't too bad. The problem is their need to catch up to Marvel.

  • Saurabh Misal
    Saurabh Misal 7 days ago

    The warehouse scene from bvs was top notch though

  • Aaron Beardsell
    Aaron Beardsell 7 days ago

    *oh shit it is real*

  • Cameron Harrington
    Cameron Harrington 7 days ago

    Answer: NOTHING

  • Mistress of Reads
    Mistress of Reads 7 days ago

    I didn't realize how bad that punch scene at the end was. lol

  • davidsirmons
    davidsirmons 7 days ago

    The DC character beats during action pieces.....most are shit, yes, but the WW " please don't make me do this..." that one hit me pretty hard. The rest are crapSquared, but yes.

  • Ann Merc
    Ann Merc 7 days ago

    I haven't watched the video yet so I don't know if it's mentioned but there's way too much slow motion in their action scenes. I noticed it during and just after the No Man's Land scene in Wonder Woman.

  • Lantern 2814
    Lantern 2814 7 days ago

    The problem with videos like this is that they add nothing to the conversation and are easily disproven.

  • Ashwin Kanatt
    Ashwin Kanatt 7 days ago

    There is a point when batman is fighting superman, where superman is slowly getting his strength back. Batman realised this. At this moment he stepped back. He was genuinely scared. Yet you didn't say anything about it. I really thought you understand this kind of stuff. Showing emotion by body language rather than dialogue. That's why I like watching your videos. But this time you were wrong. You compared a franchise with 5 movies to something with almost 20 movies. How is that fare? When early marvel movies are not that polished, everyone looked up hoping next time they will make it better. When dc movie are at its beginnings why are hounding on its mistakes. Why are not giving it a chance?

  • SuJItH #DSK
    SuJItH #DSK 7 days ago

    I never felt action sequences in MCU like it was a superhero film or never i care bout them after. becoz they lack that anxiety nd emotion if ur a comic fan nd u love to see superheros in action no im not hating them for that, they're gud at wt they are but pulling out a joke in the middle of a fight or end of it would really not gonna help you fell like it was a moment to remember but it just adds the ''?'' like does they need to fight for that??? Honestly i dont think any of the fans would want to see that instead gud guy punches the bad one. Nd if u talk bout physics DC is better moments thought they're OP but MCU is not gonna focus in that instead to keeps reminding you that '' theres no need to be serious bout''' anything like it was never serious no matter how powerful the threat is it always ends with a lame joke. How can u explain physics over magic?? Magic is something that defy physics both DC and MCU has magical characters but ur video is completely biased i can say that much, Well Thats ur opinion.

  • Joe Kerr
    Joe Kerr 7 days ago

    I honestly nodded off a couple of times during the "climax" of The Justice League! :D

  • Amonny
    Amonny 7 days ago

    WOW!!! You go to a whole new low. Unsubscribing. The hypocrisy is huge.

  • cyphre
    cyphre 7 days ago

    Haha love that ending credit roll!

  • Juris Tuling
    Juris Tuling 7 days ago

    loving the way how you do your transitions these past few episodes!

  • Morgan_Evans
    Morgan_Evans 7 days ago

    Please do a video on the last jedi!

  • Inna Goroh
    Inna Goroh 7 days ago

    Did you not watch man of steel. that trumps anything marvel has done

  • Yifan Wu
    Yifan Wu 8 days ago

    Physics are shown in MCU? Go learn some basic principles and then tell me.

  • TheElixir007
    TheElixir007 8 days ago

    You saying that final battle scene in BvS is not thrilling enough for your taste? And Marvel's better? Bye Felicia..

  • nzx
    nzx 8 days ago

    well said

  • Suprabh Pranjal
    Suprabh Pranjal 8 days ago

    Blah blah mos and bvs action scenes were great.

  • Nicholas Smith
    Nicholas Smith 8 days ago

    All of those films you showed, every single one, has absolutely absurd portrayals of mass interactions. The only variation is in degree.

  • tyro244
    tyro244 8 days ago

    My favorite DC other media stuff, outside of comic books, begins with Batman: The Animate Series, continues thru Superman: The Animated Series and the various crossovers, and goes onto the Justice League and ends with JL:U. While I like the 1989's Batman, I prefer 1978's Superman: The Movie.
    Since then, I've enjoyed most of the Marvel movies with one or two exceptions but the only DC movie I've seen and enjoyed was Wonderwoman. After seeing Batman Begins I knew I would not enjoy any of those sequels. Man of Steel was equally disappointing so I have stayed away from those, again with the exception of Wonderwoman.

  • tsartomato
    tsartomato 8 days ago

    i prefer DCUE
    they are unconventional
    i've got tired of indiana duking it out with han solo in the marvel all the time i'm not nostalgic for 80s i probably already hate them with all those references for 50 years old amurikans
    and winter soldier was the dullest and least physical of them

  • Whilce Portacio
    Whilce Portacio 8 days ago

    Don’t goddam lie, Zac Snyder is worse than Michael Bay.

  • Louis Irvine
    Louis Irvine 8 days ago

    I'm subscribed with notifications on and this didn't show up in my sub box, wtf!

  • Wombat
    Wombat 8 days ago

    Elon Musk is interested in rebooting the DC universe

  • Pepins Spot
    Pepins Spot 8 days ago

    Why was this so hard to understand?

  • Bianca Pagliara
    Bianca Pagliara 8 days ago

    You should check on how action/fight scenes are depicted in Legion by Noah Hawley.

  • MR.premium
    MR.premium 8 days ago

    Those character moments in marvel movies are great I agree with you on that one, but you gotta admit sometimes marvel over do them, for me an example of this was guardians 2 wich pushed a joke in your face every 5 minutes.

  • Cadi Levox
    Cadi Levox 8 days ago

    DC just over-Nolan-ize their movies after the dark Knight. It's ridiculous.
    That's why I haven't seen any DC movies past 2008.
    I love the DC characters, but indeed, the movies use their powers in the simplest of ways.

  • Marco Venieri
    Marco Venieri 8 days ago

    These type of cinecomics have broken my balls

  • Big E
    Big E 9 days ago

    You have nit picked the DCEU.
    MoS was fresh superman up until Zod hadn't fought or anything, so yeah he was going to be limited.
    BvS was his first encounter with kryptonite, it was awesome how when batman is punching him and superman recovers and it no longer affects him. Also you failed to show batmans warehouse scene which in my opinion is the best fight scene and captured a certain hero character.
    Wonder woman had the no mans land.
    Bunch of haters looking to tear the dceu down

  • Clara Leung
    Clara Leung 9 days ago

    at last someone has the guts to say that these movies are absurd.

  • Master Blaster
    Master Blaster 9 days ago +1

    Nerdwriter1 do a Junji-ito one.

  • MacMurrough the Meticulous

    Rant: What even is "superhero fatigue"? It sounds like one of those made up diseases celebrities check themselves into rehab over. Marvel does 3 movies a year that no one is required to go see so if at any time you get tired, it's ok to not go. But the rest of us who actually enjoy the movies and anxiously await the new ones shouldn't have to wait longer cause of "superhero fatigue".
    There has never been anything like this; there's never been a cinematic attempt of this scale before and I'm annoyed at how casually it's dismissed by that godforsaken phrase.
    Maybe "Marvel fatigue" is a better term but even then that's subjective cause I personally love the current casts and will hate seeing them go.
    I guess it just strikes me as a really weird complaint. It's like saying I have "zombie fatigue" cause FTWD and TWD exist.
    Also, terrific video as usual.

  • Thiago Dias
    Thiago Dias 9 days ago

    Basically. DC < Marvel < old guys Cruise and Keanu really kicking the shit out of real people.

  • Moose The Proud Canadian

    On the point that Marvel movies are better than DC movies, yes you are right. But then all your other points you made them then used only the footage that agrees with you. BvS was a stinky pile of poop, but it has those pause moments. Wonder Woman DID do a good job of teaching you about a heroes power and force. For hand to hand combat look to the warehouse scene where Batman sneaks in to save Martha. The movies just suck and we don't like them. THAT'S the problem with DC action scenes. C'mon man you're just making a video for the sake of making a video.

  • Brenden Bourne
    Brenden Bourne 9 days ago

    Wow, DC movies look and sound mind-numbingly stupid.

  • Дмитрий Горборуков

    This video is too good, man.

  • Antonio Roach
    Antonio Roach 9 days ago

    Can we all just agree Jason Moama was awful?

  • Dibyajyoti Ghosh
    Dibyajyoti Ghosh 9 days ago

    Always love watching your videos.

  • Wayne Williams
    Wayne Williams 9 days ago

    I think your blunt force observation is so apt. In DC action sequences, their is no wow moments, for the most part the heroes tank enemy attacks and rarely suffer consequences of landed attacks. The Superman ping pong attack on Zod looked so stupid and did no harm that it just didn't make since. If there's no harm in physical combat, how can you have any drama? For a team up movie, there's very little teamwork.

  • Mukesh Raj
    Mukesh Raj 9 days ago +1

    Do not take notice of this video. This is created by a lame MCU fanboy who wants to trash DC movies ignoring the mistakes from Marvel.
    You just die you mindless moron. You only took 3 scenes from !7 MCU movies and left out all the bad action scenes. You left out all the best DCEU scenes - warehouse fight, smallvile scene and many more. I can clearly see that you mostly lean on Josstice League. This is because it is very hard to find mistakes in Zack's action sequences. You accept it or not Zack's fight choreography was way more better than anything in MCU. Also I fail to see that you have a brain. Man, just talk logically. When you are in fight with someone, will you talk in between. Your logic is like sooooo bad that I almost thought you were from Arkham asylum. Just die.
    PS: You also talk about physics. But there is no logic when Iron man came back unscratched when he fell from space in Avenengers but Rhodhey came bleeding when he just fell from clouds.

  • Devin Cory
    Devin Cory 10 days ago +1

    Also, DC just doesn't have very interesting characters. What is Superman intimidated by? What really motivates Batman? What does Superwoman find funny? I am ashamed of my namesake.

  • mask for the task
    mask for the task 10 days ago

    I am begging for you to consider talking about Crazy Ex-Girlfriend. It is a perfect deconstraction of romantic comedies (nostalgia hints), amazingly on point. It is basically "Breaking Bad" in it's genre.

  • Youdumbhoe
    Youdumbhoe 10 days ago

    I usually love your videos, but this is way too biased to ignore :/

  • Taylor Wiseman
    Taylor Wiseman 10 days ago

    Well guess what? I prefer the DC Animated Movies over both the MCU and the DCEU (And Every DC Animated show for that matter.

    • Taylor Wiseman
      Taylor Wiseman 6 days ago

      Heheheheh. Nobody gives a f*** about the DCEU either.

    • xavier jaramillo
      xavier jaramillo 8 days ago

      Taylor Wiseman Nobody gives a fuck for an animated movie.

  • 8amfilms
    8amfilms 10 days ago

    THAT. Was an amazing OUTRO. You are masterful sir.

  • Sebastián Fallas
    Sebastián Fallas 10 days ago

    Adding quips in the middle of a fight just makes the fight seem like everything but relevant.
    Boxers don't make quips while punching each other, that's plain subjective and something MARVEL does (wrongfully) for the sake of humor while DC does it right, because making jokes mid-fight only takes the rhythm away.
    "A shining armor knight has never been in a REAL fight"
    Something that MARVEL yet doesn't understand.

  • Bijinius Cross
    Bijinius Cross 10 days ago

    LOTS more humor in this one-it actually works for you, because your edits are FUNNY. Imagine that. Yeah, you're still leaps and bounds better than the bulk of the rest of the movie critics on here (of which there are MANY. M-A-A-A-A-NY.)

  • Richie Rich
    Richie Rich 10 days ago

    So many butt hurt DC fanboys in the comment section.

  • Bijinius Cross
    Bijinius Cross 10 days ago

    You're NOT 30-years-old yet? Fuck. I feel . . . ancient. I was on drugs for a whole decade. I wasted my youth. Wow. That got dark QUICK. Sorry!

  • Bijinius Cross
    Bijinius Cross 10 days ago

    Everything. The problem is everything. Plot, stakes, special effects, characters, choreography, special effects, lighting, special effects . . . I'm sure even the _catering_ was weak. DC™ / Warner Bros.™ couldn't find the water while sinking a wooden boat. I saw a pretty convincing video arguing that _Justice League_ was the worst superhero movie ever made. And when considering the amount of money, time, effort, talent and additional MONEY that was sunk on that lamentably lame frozen trash heap, I'm not inclined to disagree.

  • Aaron Scheiner
    Aaron Scheiner 10 days ago

    CHECK QUORA. CANADA'S LEADER FOLLOWS YOU

  • AsHalt
    AsHalt 10 days ago

    MARTHA !!!!!!!!

  • Bazkerville Rouge
    Bazkerville Rouge 10 days ago

    A lame charachter like Superman doesnt trascend good to film its not the directors fault, Supe's just a strong potato, so it cannot do flashy logical shit.

  • thịnh trần bá
    thịnh trần bá 10 days ago

    The punch.

  • Guitarkadia
    Guitarkadia 10 days ago

    Clicking on your Patreon link from the description leads to a 404 for some reason. Copy/pasting link on browser works.

  • That Guy
    That Guy 10 days ago

    How did this get (nearly) a million views? Last time I watched it was around 250k

  • Thiago Ferreira
    Thiago Ferreira 10 days ago

    Just discovered this channel, so fuckin awesome, thanks dude! ps: great editing by the way.

  • Logen Felxon
    Logen Felxon 11 days ago

    I love the actor that played aquaman and the character that aquaman could have been but never became... Too bad they made most of the movie shit. Except for the little bit when the bat n' co, go to get him. :P
    The action in the DCU Pieces are pretty rarely good. Yeah they are powerful characters, but the more alike a god one become the less real will they feel.
    I liked the twist on the superman character that we got in man of steel. Though they should stop the powercreep-skipping because, even if we actually know these people in capes and whatnot are powerful, they need to be grounded in reality somewhat.

  • Harem Fanatic101
    Harem Fanatic101 11 days ago

    Which is why the animated part of DC is superior in both writing and animation, but fights as well.
    One has flash running into a tornado that lifts the bad guy up to the air for supes to punch in, Diana hogties a big bad guy for batman to drop a quick sticky bomb on, Martian Manhunter transforms into a giant beast to slam into the ground and green lantern immediately lifts him and throws him far away for flash to knockout afterwards from where he falls.
    Hell injustice and the team-up finishers from the arkham games prove creative take downs. And They don't even have powers!
    I can only imagine the amount of potential for other (Dare I say, more Marketable) superheroes and villains.