Is the Premier League title race over already? | Sunday Supplement | Full Show

  • Published on Nov 17, 2019
    The Sunday Supplement panel discuss the possibility of the Premier League title race being over before Christmas following Liverpool's win over Man City last weekend. Also up for discussion is the future of women's football, the possible changes needed to keep VAR in the game, and Gareth Southgate's dealing of the Sterling/Gomez situation.

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  • Sama Sob
    Sama Sob 5 days ago

    its funny a yard stick is man city putting together a 16 match run after defeat to liverpool....actually no one is talking about liverpool putting together a loooooooooooong run , maan

  • Conor S
    Conor S 19 days ago

    Are we really going to do this for the next 25 weeks?

  • Mark Woods
    Mark Woods 19 days ago

    You should be critical of Raheem Stirling end of !!!!!!!!!

  • Matt Pamplin
    Matt Pamplin 20 days ago

    Hats of to Rodgers doing a great job

  • carter v.
    carter v. 22 days ago

    it's not Xmas yet

  • Daniel Browne
    Daniel Browne 23 days ago

    Olie holt is a cuck

  • roy kinson
    roy kinson 24 days ago

    I think VAR is spoiling the game. I honestly prefer being robbed every now and again by a bad referee decision - no matter the importance of the match. Over the years I've been losing my mind at decisions that have gone against my team and chuckled when decisions have gone our way. I really think this is an important aspect of being a fan that is disappearing. I also hate the delay after almost every single goal is scored. We have goal line technology - okay I can live with that but now when a goal is scored you literally have no idea whether to celebrate or not. The grey areas (no matter how devastating at times) are an integral part of the game. I know... huge amounts of money at stake... and so on.

  • Penny Alice
    Penny Alice 24 days ago

    Chelsea are a fantastic team to watch as a neutral I'm just so happy for Frank and the kids. And Leicester omg, playing amazing footy! We'll still win the league tho ;) ynwa

  • Jannik Nielsen
    Jannik Nielsen 24 days ago

    It keeps being glossed over that City are 9 points behind after having the most soft fixture list in the league. City has faced 2 of the regular Top 6 clubs, and 1 in the current. LFC has faced them all and still 9 points ahead. 2 years ago, City lost 2 games, last season 4, and they are already on 3 losses in this season. I know it is popular opinion that City can go on long runs, but their points are a reflection of their weaknesses and current state. Just like LFC.

  • T T
    T T 24 days ago +1

    Womens football never has been and never will be that popular no matter how you force it, fact sorry drop forcing the issue now and then on big weekends support will boost similar to non league weekend

  • George Morrison
    George Morrison 24 days ago

    Yes Leicester have got it

  • Paddy Mc
    Paddy Mc 25 days ago

    I think of it more that this 8 point lead, (9 over Man City) is what we need to be confident we can get through the hard upcoming fixtures and leave us with a small lead by the End of January.

  • Geoff Jones
    Geoff Jones 25 days ago

    Wake me up for me coco, what absolute drivel

  • splintEight
    splintEight 25 days ago +2

    This "is season over" stuff is just hot useless air.

  • Tapiwanashe Samuvumba
    Tapiwanashe Samuvumba 25 days ago

    All Liverpool fans dnt think its over until last weekend even if we open up a 50 point gap we would still think its not over

  • TJ
    TJ 25 days ago +1

    This was pretty bad smh

  • Stu Kent
    Stu Kent 25 days ago

    Aha. The cycle.

    Media: Have Liverpool won it already?
    Other clubs supporters: See! Liverpool fans. Pure arrogance. Think they've won it already. Media love-in!
    Liverpool fans: No. We don't want this.

  • امير القلوب
    امير القلوب 25 days ago

    are you welcome 212668540690

  • Jay Smith
    Jay Smith 25 days ago +1

    Sterling was and still is a scumbag. 'His' statement would have come via his agents 'advice'. He's not any kind of 'role model' no matter how much the media try to suggest that he is. He also isn't as good on the pitch as they make out. He's quick and benefits from playing in the most expensive team/squad ever assembled. Lots of tap in goals/assists via the same low ball into the box from out wide does not make him 'world class'. He misses so many chances to be considered one of the best, never mind his limited repertoire. Maybe he'd be better in all respects if he gave up inhaling hippy crack.

  • Superior Being
    Superior Being 25 days ago

    As a Man City Fan I see the gap as 6 points as I back my team to beat Liverpool at home, 6 points is nothing at this stage of the season, if we are within 10 points going in to the New Year I'm confident City can win the PL again.

    • jermaine tobin
      jermaine tobin 25 days ago

      It's 9pts genius what kind of retarded logic is that

  • Tuten Vanman
    Tuten Vanman 25 days ago

    I see no problem provided liverfool keep paying the referees. They cheated City so other teams stand no chance. Still 30 years of being total wanking losers is hard to overcome. Having neanderthal fans doesn't help. They haven't killed any of their own fans for a few years .....fingers crossed.....still they will blame someone else anyway.

  • Ed Hye
    Ed Hye 25 days ago +1

    Literally no Liverpool fan thinks it's over. We haven't even reached December, for heaven's sake.
    A couple of draws, and the chasing pack could be right back in it.

  • Suncom Kinoo
    Suncom Kinoo 25 days ago

    Its not over yet until second leg matches are over

  • georg
    georg 25 days ago

    Yeah. Leicester have it in the bag.

  • Dwayne Ross
    Dwayne Ross 25 days ago

    How many times do you have to ask this question lol........ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzZZZZZzzz

  • Tony Demetriou
    Tony Demetriou 26 days ago +1

    Host on work experience only I hope

    • White Koala
      White Koala 25 days ago

      You’d rather watch 4 blokes then?

  • lunga lunga
    lunga lunga 26 days ago

    I never saw any of thus crap when other teams are top of the league

  • lunga lunga
    lunga lunga 26 days ago

    Amazing how much crap is said about liverpool .The reality is liverpool lost the title from being 4 points a ahead in february.

  • Peter Burke
    Peter Burke 26 days ago

    Liverpool squad is fine. Ox chamb can cover any of the front 3 if injured and midfield positions except for fabinho.
    Theres also enough quality to replace VVD in prem. Maybe not in CL.

  • ElysiumNZ
    ElysiumNZ 26 days ago +1

    Down voted for showing the S*n.

  • Ethen Green
    Ethen Green 26 days ago

    Yes it is because Liverpool won't make the same mistakes as last season that cost them the title because they would have learned from them.

  • federico fox
    federico fox 26 days ago +2

    why does holt always look like he just got in from a night on the piss

  • Danny Millen
    Danny Millen 26 days ago +1

    As a Liverpool fan, no the title race is not over, we are in November.

  • Mr Kipling
    Mr Kipling 26 days ago

    Is it over in November?? Who comes up with crap like that?? Of course it isn’t. Teams can get injuries or lose a bit of form. 95/96 season. Newcastle were 12 points ahead of United and we all know what happened there. Last season Liverpool were so many points clear at one point and city won it.

    • Mr Kipling
      Mr Kipling 25 days ago

      jermaine tobin I’ve forgotten more about football than you’ll ever know so please don’t show yourself up in front of everyone. I know what era it was in, I went to most of uniteds games that season. And every season since 1985. I stated my opinion on my original comment and then you come along and wonder what I’m talking about??? Read the comment and read it properly.

    • jermaine tobin
      jermaine tobin 25 days ago

      @Mr Kipling smh I'm a grown ass man and fall back this won't end well for you 🙄

    • jermaine tobin
      jermaine tobin 25 days ago

      @Mr Kipling That was during the premier league era you doughnut 😂 you've had a mare

    • Mr Kipling
      Mr Kipling 25 days ago

      Oh no I forgot for people like you you football didn’t exist before the premier league started.

  • Shishir Bhusal
    Shishir Bhusal 26 days ago

    Why do they fail to see man city is at immense pressure? If they lose or draw one more game, it's over. It'll be very hard to maintain win over the whole season.

    • Shishir Bhusal
      Shishir Bhusal 24 days ago

      @Mojo K True. If they don't buy any centre back this jan transfer, things will get difficult for man city for sure.

    • Mojo K
      Mojo K 26 days ago +1

      City are more likely to drop more points because their defence has been exposed this season. Thwy haven't really replaced Kompany and Laporte injury doesn't help them. Stones and Otameni are very dodgy at the back.

  • Dawn Hauton
    Dawn Hauton 26 days ago

    Please guys ,stop THINKING!!!!!!!!!

  • Dawn Hauton
    Dawn Hauton 26 days ago

    Cant stand watching womens football or rugby, When guys start playing netball then maybe but until then, please girls leave mens games ! Ps, I'm a woman in her 50s.

  • GeorgeCox.
    GeorgeCox. 26 days ago

    the only way this title race will be prematurely over is if one team goes 18/20 points clear, and the other gives up to chase other silverware.

  • john moore
    john moore 26 days ago

    City were the better team had most of the game ? I don't fancy Loserpool to be honest they still have to many games to play Leicester wolves Sheffield Chelsea Arsenal man Utd I think they will blow it as they did last time the away games against these teams will not be easy simple

    • jermaine tobin
      jermaine tobin 25 days ago

      Smh the better team you're a special kind of stupid and as for the rest stay salty

  • Ronald Yudo Adityo
    Ronald Yudo Adityo 26 days ago

    City fan will say no, and will always mentioned 198 points in the last 2 seasons. Lfc fan will say no (but in their heart hoping it is over).

  • rajeev paltrow
    rajeev paltrow 26 days ago

    Looks like Oliver holt has eaten more pies than frank Lampard

  • The Chubby funster
    The Chubby funster 26 days ago

    England fans booed Gomez because of his association with Liverpool. English people hate Liverpool for stupid classist reasons. No wonder so many scousers don't call themselves English.

  • rajeev paltrow
    rajeev paltrow 26 days ago

    If a white player had done what sterling had done to a black player there would be outrage In the media and baying for the player to be banned . It says a lot about libtard England that nobody dare condemn sterling because that would be “waycist “

  • Rizwan Ahmad
    Rizwan Ahmad 26 days ago

    talking about how can women football improve and you are presenting in such a dull manner and suddenly got energized for premier league

  • John Paul Reed
    John Paul Reed 26 days ago

    Darren Lewis is a bitter spurs fan he can not remember when they were last in a title race so he is just bitter.

    • jermaine tobin
      jermaine tobin 25 days ago

      Not remember Spurs were in the title race the season Leicester won it genius 🙄 think before you throw out dead banter don't embarrass us

  • Mark Morris
    Mark Morris 26 days ago

    I wondered when "diversity" would come up. It's bullshit to suggest people want to "stay in yesteryear". First lets address black people and Asians being "under represented", complete nonsense and unfounded, I will leave a post I left on the EFL page when they tried to claim there "isn't enough equality" in football below, that outline's all the statistics and reasons why it's nonsense, short of it is, black people are "over represented" in relation to UK population, and Asians are less, due to various factors, such as culture, elders expectations and only the most recent generation being more interested in sport.
    The women's game, again, more bollocks spoken, really the journalists think male supporters believe women shouldn't be in the game? Show me the research to back that up! The issue with the women's game, is it's relatively new, and therefore hasn't progressed as far, so the quality isn't there, especially globally, the World Cup proved that, you''d have seen a better Sunday league game than half of the world cup. Then you've got the argument or some players demanding they should be paid as much as the men's game, well first's the last women's world cup they were paid more than the men, in terms of the proportion of money available. Secondly on a club level, when the women have the quality, and pulling power to fill the stadiums then the market will dictate how much they'll get paid.
    Here''s the post I left on the EFL Facebook page:-
    Let's look at some statistics shall we! As of the 2011 census 3% of the UK population was black, 6.9% Asian (total of all different origins), 2% Other. What the FA, EFL or any other football body won't tell you is how many BAME players there are! I've done a quick tot up of all 72 EFL clubs (8 June 2019 - obviously due to being close season figures aren't going to be 100% representative due to some clubs removing released/sold players from their websites, only first team listings were counted.) There are a total of 1931 players of which 538 are BAME players, which is 28.9% (which I would suggest would be higher if complete 2018/19 registered players were available). Depending what season it was over the past 15 years south Asian player numbers have ranged from 4 to 20 according to various sources
    According to the Sports People's Think Tank report in 2015 there were 23 Black and Asian coaches in English football out of 552 which is 4.2, which is comparable to the national ethnicity break down, and 18 of 92 clubs (20%) employed a BAME coach or manager.
    Sporting Equals also claim BAME communities are underrepresented in official positions within sports organisation - only 7% are in the professional workforce, 3.6% in volunteer management and 3% in the coaching workforce. Yet those figures match population figures, so therefore are proportionally represented. According to Sporting Equals, 4.1% of senior football coaches employed during the 2016-17 season were BAME, which is well within nation population proportions.
    I mean if we wanna look at under representation, only 68 English players started the Premier season in 2018/2019, with 69.2% being overseas players, the highest in Europe according to UEFA!
    So, let's conclude, this will be in a few parts. Clearly in the modern game, there's no shortage of black players, they are very well represented, both British Black players and foreign black players (aided by advanced club and national teams where black ethnicity is the majority race). But the majority of those players are under 35. And considering Premier League BAME players, majority of which were/are black has only recently doubled to 33% from 16% in 1992/93, there would only be a hand full over BAME people of coaching age.
    Then you've got Asian players, this is highly complicated, the UK asian population has only really grown on a scale in the last 15 years, despite there being large Indianian and Pakistani communities in certain cities. There's the more strict and traditional cultures of those communities and being a professional football was not a job that sat well with elders. Plus the fact south Asian nations on the international stage have never been of a high enough quality for teams to consider signing players from those nations. It's only within the last 5 or so years have we seen a drive from the FA and other football organisations to get Asians involved in football at community level, that will take time for Asians to progress through the system.
    Referring to both national population statistics and football ethnicity statics, it's all very well saying "we want diversity and better representation" but how many white players actually go into coaching when they stop playing! So how many BAME ex players actually had an interest in getting into coaching! When you consider all of that, there are even less numbers (BAME people) that are actually looking for work, and then if you look at the number of white people actively looking for work within football, remembering there are only 92 professional clubs (plus the professional National League sides) jobs, there are so many jobs available, plus you'll find managers tend to work with the same trusted people 1 or 2 positions beneath them.
    All in all, BAME people are represented higher than the national population proportion percentages, I would say 4.3% BAME managers at the start of the 2018/19 of the 92 managers in England is still within national proportions.
    At the end of the day, with all factors considered it's going to take time for BAME people to be represented on a higher scale as more BAME players retire, providing they want to get into coaching.
    All this is, from the EFL, is grand standing, virtue signalling, and driving for over diversity and being over politically correct when population statistics show that the game is more than diverse enough, and they are creating a situation out of something that doesn't exist, as such.
    If every club has to interview a BAME person, what are they going do? Drag in some random black or Asian dude in off the street? Let's also not forget about location, some clubs are located in more diverse areas than others, are the EFL gonna force BAME people to move from areas they don't want to, just to fill a quota.
    Then there's qualifications and the best person for the job, I don't care what club it is, the chairman and/or board are going to hire the best man for the job, based on qualifications, experience, record and anything they've won, look at the Premiership for example, it's high stakes, and that's why there's been this "merry go round" of experienced relegation battled managers. And every fan wants the best people for the job, they don't care about anything other than winning. Do you know how hard it is to get on to a UEFA Pro License course? in 2018 there were only something like 34 places given, and it's thousands of pounds to apply, the FA do this to keep it "exclusive", and yes I have spoken to 2 coaches who have applied last year, that's how I know about it. To manage in the Premier League you need a UEFA Pro Licence. Coaches even go to the Welsh FA and do FA equivalents of lower qualifications coz it's so expensive to get your coaching badges in England, and unless you're a player or coach at a club who wants to pay for it, it comes out of your own pocket, I know of several League One clubs and a Championship side that wouldn't fund courses.
    If a person applying for a job is good enough, as a fan, I don't care what their ethnicity is, if Darren Moore applied and got a job at the club I follow, I'd be more than happy, he's a talented manager, if WBA had given him the manager's job sooner in their relegation season, in my opinion he would've kept them up, and when he got sacked when WBA were in 4th, he was hard done be, and the board were idiots, on the face of it without knowing what was going on behind the scenes.
    This forced diversity drive could lower standards across the board, and could cost clubs their standing, and possibly their financial stability if things were to go wrong, all because of a quota. It's nothing to do with race or racism either, if a person is good enough, they deserve their position on merit! This is reverse/positive racism!
    Feel free to share my findings and opinion on other pages or comments on other platforms where this story may be.

  • Eazy Kidda
    Eazy Kidda 26 days ago

    bunch of clowns yet again.

  • Tony Lawlor
    Tony Lawlor 26 days ago

    Leicester, what would have been unbelievable is if they played as well the season they were Champions , they did not, they threw they toys out of their prams and downed tools, where was the great Vardy that season.

  • Nick Wilson
    Nick Wilson 26 days ago

    The painful push for womens football to be popular continues. Nobody is interested.

    • Jay Smith
      Jay Smith 25 days ago

      If women watched it more then it would get more coverage. It's women that can and should be doing more to grow their sports.

  • Stuart Hartley
    Stuart Hartley 26 days ago +2

    The first step to reducing controversy with VAR is for the pundits to actually know what the current FA interpretation of the rules of football are.

  • Random Clicks
    Random Clicks 26 days ago +4

    i like this host, the other guy always looks like he just got dragged out of bed and can hardly be bothered being there.

  • S Goodman
    S Goodman 26 days ago +4

    Rival fans love saying Liverpool fans think they've won the league already when all I've seen is the media and there fans saying it

  • Fawad Ahmad
    Fawad Ahmad 26 days ago

    Inaugural women's football weekend being talked about by 3 male football writers. Bahahaha

  • poolfans
    poolfans 26 days ago

    I don’t really trust this City team..
    It takes some very bad thing happen to Liverpool
    Esp bad form and injury And that could happen..
    But if that happen, it will be a 4 race horses rather than it’s between city and Liverpool
    If Liverpool loss of form, it will be a four horse races.
    Otherwise it’s Liverpool all the way

  • jackyboy777666
    jackyboy777666 26 days ago

    If Leicester are within 3-5 points of Liverpool come boxing Day....don't rule them out winning the league.

    • jermaine tobin
      jermaine tobin 25 days ago

      Leicester are miles behind Liverpool and City

  • jackyboy777666
    jackyboy777666 26 days ago

    Leicester away Boxing Day could prove tricky for Liverpool

  • Ian Bos
    Ian Bos 26 days ago

    Well after Int. break when Chelsea beats City 2-1 and Liverpool beat Palace, it will look even better!! 😀😁

    • jermaine tobin
      jermaine tobin 25 days ago

      @Ian Bos Yer it would still be great

    • Ian Bos
      Ian Bos 25 days ago

      Very true jermaine, although I must admit if this is on super6 I would happily go for a 1-1

    • jermaine tobin
      jermaine tobin 25 days ago

      If Chelsea do manage to beat them they could well be in this race depending on the manor of the victory

    • jermaine tobin
      jermaine tobin 25 days ago

      @jackyboy777666 It's not

    • jackyboy777666
      jackyboy777666 26 days ago

      I love how people are just ruiling out Leicester....dangerous thing to do.

  • Lee Illman
    Lee Illman 26 days ago

    2nd journalists are actually clueless

  • Quinlan
    Quinlan 26 days ago

    city 1-1 Chelsea be noice

  • Malligrub 1
    Malligrub 1 26 days ago +1

    Is an unprovoked physical assault of your workmates in the workplace a "misdemeanor" now...